QB Jameis Winston, NYG (9 Viewers)

[Faust]

Why Buccaneers should give Jameis Winston at least one more year

 

[TwinTurbo]

 perriman looks just fine...jamies is gonna chuck it no matter what

I like Perriman but it was against the Lions.

 

[GrantK]

They actually say Jameis is always one of the first ones in the building at the Bucs training center.  

Maturing a little, competent coach/system, dude has the tools but... time will tell.

 

[GrantK]

my comments copied from the other Winston thread

Houston is really bad vs the pass. 30 TDs vs 8 picks.  Like Arizona, Oakland and Detroit bad.  Can't cover anybody, can't get to the QB.  Equal opportunity, can get burned by WRs and TEs.  I think Howard and Brate have big days.  But have to temper expectations.  It's far more likely to be a 275 and 2 TD day than his last two.  Still rolling with him.  He's earned it. Against a better defense probably not.

He's gotten us this far and will be riding him, not looking for another monster 400+ 4TD game, 275-300 and 2 will be just fine, could also score on the ground.  

 

[Grahamburn]

TB fans input needed. 

How do you think Winston will do throwing to Perriman? I haven't watch any TB games. Will Perriman be his default #1WR? 

Perriman has been big the last couple weeks. If you’re desperate for WR help you could do much worse. Perriman will be his #1 target. 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I’m getting cold feet with Winston not having Evans and Godwin 

:(

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I’m getting cold feet with Winston not having Evans and Godwin 

:(

I think the volume will be there, they are playing another elite QB and you cant run on Tampa. or at least teams choose not to. 

Could he have a 3 turnover day? sure, but hes at home and I think he will do fine, honestly I think OJ howard and Brate will get some targets....

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

I’m getting cold feet with Winston not having Evans and Godwin 

:(

I have him and Brees and I’m rolling Brees although his history on grass and on the road and some “experts” like that Fabiano guy, have me nervous. My opponent also has Watson so there’s definitely a side to me that wants to play Winston and go head-to-head. But man...just get a bad feeling...

 

[Cowboysfan8]

My other option is Kyler

Im not sure what I’m doing yet but I’m pretty sure it will be wrong

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I have him and Brees and I’m rolling Brees although his history on grass and on the road and some “experts” like that Fabiano guy, have me nervous. My opponent also has Watson so there’s definitely a side to me that wants to play Winston and go head-to-head. But man...just get a bad feeling...

Brees on the road, outdoors, cold, against a decent team? Yeah Id roll Jamies at home.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Brees on the road, outdoors, cold, against a decent team? Yeah Id roll Jamies at home.

Ahhh really? Damn man and I also have Thomas with Brees (and Cook in my other title game). You really think Tennessee can slow NO down? Especially with the injuries in their secondary?

 

[Faust]

Bucs' depleted WR corps offers Jameis Winston a chance to prove himself

 

[fatness]

Did the Bucs practice today and if so did Winston practice?

 

[kittenmittens]

He's Brett Favre. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

Winston with a pick-6 on the first play of the game, and he has now thrown an INT on the opening drive in four of their last five games, but I thought he only threw so many picks because TB's defense was so bad?  There goes that theory. 

 

[lod001]

Just call him Pick-6.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

2 picks already.  

 

[DocHolliday]

2 picks already.  

Looks like he will have to continue throwing after digging a hole.   As usual.  

 

[Ghost Rider]

Block in the back saved him for another pick-6.  He has six this year.  I wonder what the record is for most pick-6's in a single season. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Looks like he will have to continue throwing after digging a hole.   As usual.  

Good - I’ve got Perriman. 

 

[DocHolliday]

Good - I’ve got Perriman. 

Same. 

 

[pinequick]

I hate this guy.  It is ALWAYS the same story with him.  When I don't really need him to step up, he goes crazy.  Need a big game?  He does this crap.  Can't stand him.  Shame on me, I guess.

 

[Manster]

Just like Chad Johnson, Jameis Winston has decided to legally change his name......he will be known as Turnover Machine.

 

[Tool]

He’s like the hot girl you want to break up with but you don’t because she keeps giving you some amazing nights. Bucs will prob go through a couple more years of this.

 

[da_budman]

as awful as he has been he still has 14.12 points in myleague WITHOUT perriman playing a big role in it.  Since im playing against perriman its not an awful 1st half for me.  

 

[SproutDaddy]

He's Brett Favre. 

He's Super Brett Favre

 

[Rove!]

Today, he didn't have his top two WRs and he would have been better served not to have his top two TEs....

 

[gump]

Pretty obvious hand issue...nothing came out with a zip.

 

[The Frankman]

Jameis Winston completed 25-of-48 passes for 335 yards, one touchdown, and four interceptions in Tampa Bay's Week 16 loss to the Texans.

Winston's three interceptions in the first half, including two on back-to-back possessions out the gates, made for the 11th time he's tossed at least three picks in a single game — three more than Philip Rivers has registered since entering the league. It also ensured the 25-year-old head into Sunday as the league leader in interceptions (28). Sunday's performance ran the gamut of Winston's criticisms including a pick-six on Tampa Bay's opening drive, two dropped interceptions, multiple overthrown receivers wide-open in the end zone, and a handful of pinpoint back-shoulder fades 20-plus yards downfield. Having passed Tony Romo for No. 19 all-time with 4,908 single-season passing yards, Winston will finish this year in the record books no matter his final tally in Week 17. He's arguably become must-see television despite Tampa Bay's subpar 7-8 record.

 

[Faust]

Report: Buccaneers Expected to Bring Back QB Jameis Winston in 2020

 

[belljr]

Just need 3 more picks

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Pretty obvious hand issue...nothing came out with a zip.

Looked fine last week

 

[SproutDaddy]

Report: Buccaneers Expected to Bring Back QB Jameis Winston in 2020

As a Saints fan, I definitely approve.

 

[gump]

Looked fine last week

I didn’t watch last week...but today the ball was coming out high and soft compared to his usual flight IMO.

 

[wgoldsph]

As a Saints fan, I definitely approve.

That's all that needs to be said

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I didn’t watch last week...but today the ball was coming out high and soft compared to his usual flight IMO.

I agree 

Buy don’t think we can blame the thumb 

 

[wgoldsph]

Jamis gets picked from a clean pocket more than the majority of nfl qbs get picked period

 

[kittenmittens]

He's Super Brett Favre

The gunslinging version of Favre

 

[Faust]

Jameis Winston on 4-INT day: 'You can't win that way'

 

[SproutDaddy]

https://clutchpoints.com/buccaneers-news-jameis-winston-reportedly-looking-over-30m-year-contract-extension-not-satisfied-franchise-tag/

 

[Alex P Keaton]

https://clutchpoints.com/buccaneers-news-jameis-winston-reportedly-looking-over-30m-year-contract-extension-not-satisfied-franchise-tag/

Jesus.  That’s insane.

 

[Capella]

https://clutchpoints.com/buccaneers-news-jameis-winston-reportedly-looking-over-30m-year-contract-extension-not-satisfied-franchise-tag/

No beat writer has reported this and the Bucs have some very good ones. I’d be skeptical of that. 

 

[rockaction]

Jamis gets picked from a clean pocket more than the majority of nfl qbs get picked period

Advanced sort of f(x) stuff about his game doesn't seem to bode well for him from what I've seen. As I've mentioned before in the thread the Deep Ball Project comes to mind.

Dead last for 2018-18, much higher in 2017.

I don't know what it tells us, but it tells us something. 

 

[SproutDaddy]

No beat writer has reported this and the Bucs have some very good ones. I’d be skeptical of that. 

To each his own.  But considering who we are talking about........

 

[Capella]

To each his own.  But considering who we are talking about........

Some sportrac guy estimated his FA value at 25M a year so he’s going to get paid no matter what. I guess it doesn’t matter who reports it, it’s going to happen. 

 

[rockaction]

Some sportrac guy estimated his FA value at 25M a year so he’s going to get paid no matter what. I guess it doesn’t matter who reports it, it’s going to happen. 

Yeah, Cousins reset the market and everyone else will follow until somebody like Dak does again, and then it'll fall into place for these guys.

Unless, of course, they accept the franchise tags willingly without using holdouts as leverage against the bargaining power of the employer. Personally, I just don't see any easy way out for the players or the owners. If they're spending to cap, it's not that the owners are cheap, they're concerned with cap allocation. 

I think the owners are desperately trying to get the market and cap structure away from being so QB-centric, but it won't be, and it isn't, and until the CBA comes around, the winning way is still a first-deal quarterback with great pieces around him, or Tom Brady and that ugly display of football that they call the Patriots. God, winning never looked so five yard dunk ugly.

 

[rockaction]

One could say to increase the cap and get over it, but that would simply set another ceiling to achieve for the players. There's so much money. I mean, gobs upon gobs of oobleck.

 

[lod001]

That's gotta be his agent talking.  You know he's looking for his payday.

 

[icehouse]

He finished 2nd in QB scoring in my league, which gives 6 per td and only -1 for turnovers. I know most leagues use -2 for turnovers, but I would think most were satisfied with him in fantasy this year, especially considering weeks 14 and 15?

 

[Tool]

Just read he threw an interception on his first pass in 4 games this year. Like Diamagio’s streak think that record will last forever.