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QB Jared Goff, DET (2 Viewers)
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Football Jones
Footballguy
Not a .500 team? Not sure about that one.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Impossible to say, but I would wager we would not be anywhere near the discussion of the leagues best team.
Football Jones
Footballguy
It's possible Hooker is as good as Goff, just in different ways. Hook could even be better, but yeah, he could be way worse.
kutta
Footballguy
Since the names Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, and Burrow were thrown out:
As of right now...
Odds to win the SB (the top 4 teams are):
KC: +390
Detroit: +440
Ravens: +580
Bills: +750
And then:
Cinci: +4500
Odds to win regular season MVP (the top 4 are):
Lamar: +125
Allen: +340
Mahomes: +750
Goff: +1300
And then:
Burrow: +2200
And that's AFTER Goff's horrid last game.
So, just pointing out that he's in the discussion with those guys, at least this year. Which is pretty incredible really.
CalBear
Footballguy
I had some good titles going a while back before Joe went all No Fun on the player threads.
Chaka
Footballguy
Goff's total contract value is $212 mil, good for 13th among QBs.
His average annual contract value is $53 mil, 6th among QBs.
His average value as a percentage of total cap space is 20.75% 13th among QBs.
His total guarantees are $170.6 mil, 8th among QBs.
He is 32-24 as a starter for Detroit. 32-16 since week 12 2021, including Detroit's first ever NFCCG appearance, last year, and they're 8-1 so far this year.
Remind me again what the problem is with his contract?
His average annual contract value is $53 mil, 6th among QBs.
His average value as a percentage of total cap space is 20.75% 13th among QBs.
His total guarantees are $170.6 mil, 8th among QBs.
He is 32-24 as a starter for Detroit. 32-16 since week 12 2021, including Detroit's first ever NFCCG appearance, last year, and they're 8-1 so far this year.
Remind me again what the problem is with his contract?
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
If that is actual numbers then Goff is right where he should be in terms of QB pay.
The key is % of salary cap and guaranteed money. That seems on point. Lions were smart to get it done when they did.
Can you check Prescott's because that seems like a bad contract. I wanted to let Dak play out his deal and roll the dice and after this year let him walk as we are going nowhere fast with him.
Chaka
Footballguy
Dak:
Total value - $240 mil = 8th
Average annual value - $60 mil = 1st
Average cap % - 23.49% = 3rd
Total guarantees - $231 mil = 1st
76-46 as a starter 2-5 in the playoffs with 0 NFCCG appearances
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
That is a terrible ROI.
Credit to Dak, he played JJ like a fiddle in getting that deal. Dak is a middle tier QB at best getting paid as the top QB does not make sense. Right now Cowboys have a big decision to make. Tank the season and draft a QB and let him sit a year or two? Trey can`t play either and Rush is just a guy to step in here and there.
There was no reason to extend Dak before the season, should have waited.
Chaka
Footballguy
Jerry is bad at contracts, which is bad. Even worse, he thinks he's excellent at them.
kutta
Footballguy
Definition of a narcissist
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
All 22 Films - Clutch City
Jared Goff & Amon-Ra St Brown Shook Off Houston to Steal a Win in Week 10
4th Q: 6/8 68 TD & 4-38-1
Jared Goff & Amon-Ra St Brown Shook Off Houston to Steal a Win in Week 10
4th Q: 6/8 68 TD & 4-38-1
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
If the Lions don`t go 16-1 and win the SuperBowl and cover spread they should cut Goff and play Hooker or trade for Minshew or Daulton.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Or trade Gibbs and a couple firsts so they can draft a real QB eh
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The Game manager was taking care of business today
Lions QB Jared Goff has 29-career games with 300+ passing yards and 2+ passing TDs.
This ranks as the sixth-most any NFL player has recorded through the first nine seasons of a career.
Goff tallied 400+ passing yards and 4 passing TDs today.
This is only the 5th time a QB has done so in franchise history.
This is the first time Detroit has ever scored 49+ points in consecutive home games.
Jared Goff has posted a perfect passer rating today (158.3), the second of his career.
This is the second occurrence in franchise history (Dave Krieg in 1994).
He is the 6th QB in NFL history to post multiple perfect games (15 attempt minimum).
Goff is the only QB in NFL history to have multiple games with 400+ passing yards and a 158.3 passer rating.
Jared Goff has produced five games with a completion percentage of 80.0% this season, the most in a season in NFL history (15 attempt per game minimum).
Goff has produced four games with a passer rating of 140.0+ this season, tied for the most in a season in NFL history (15 attempts per game minimum).
Jared Goff has posted a passer rating of 125.0+ and logged 2+ TD passes in three-straight home games.
This ties for the longest streak in a season in NFL history.
Game Manager extraordinairé
Lions QB Jared Goff has 29-career games with 300+ passing yards and 2+ passing TDs.
This ranks as the sixth-most any NFL player has recorded through the first nine seasons of a career.
Goff tallied 400+ passing yards and 4 passing TDs today.
This is only the 5th time a QB has done so in franchise history.
This is the first time Detroit has ever scored 49+ points in consecutive home games.
Jared Goff has posted a perfect passer rating today (158.3), the second of his career.
This is the second occurrence in franchise history (Dave Krieg in 1994).
He is the 6th QB in NFL history to post multiple perfect games (15 attempt minimum).
Goff is the only QB in NFL history to have multiple games with 400+ passing yards and a 158.3 passer rating.
Jared Goff has produced five games with a completion percentage of 80.0% this season, the most in a season in NFL history (15 attempt per game minimum).
Goff has produced four games with a passer rating of 140.0+ this season, tied for the most in a season in NFL history (15 attempts per game minimum).
Jared Goff has posted a passer rating of 125.0+ and logged 2+ TD passes in three-straight home games.
This ties for the longest streak in a season in NFL history.
Game Manager extraordinairé
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Week 11 NFL QB efficiency
the 2x MVP and presumptive 2024 candidate is in the lower left corner
the guy who has no shot is on the other side of the chart diagonally
the 2x MVP and presumptive 2024 candidate is in the lower left corner
the guy who has no shot is on the other side of the chart diagonally
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Goff is #1 of all NFL starting QBs in passer rating, YPC, and completion %.
So I guess he is decent.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I wouldn’t be so hasty with the praise report.
First you need to qualify it by pointing out he benefits from his OC, HC, OL, WRs, the defense, the support from fans and his smokin’ hot wife. Plus his parents & Sean McVey.
That’s where the credit belongs. Not with the guy setting records left & right.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Interesting. Back in the 80s and early 90s passer rating was like the end all for rating QBs. Weird how we kinda don't look at it as much.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Now we put our faith in proprietary formulas for which we don’t even know the inputs. Or grading systems compiled by first year college grads with no formal experience playing or coaching football.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
2024 Single-Game Passer Rating Leaders:
- DET Jared Goff (Week 11 JAX) - 158.3 (29 att0
- t-1. ARZ Kyler Murray (Week 2 LAR) 158.3 (21 att)
- t-1. BAL Lamar Jackson (Week 9 DEN) 158.3 (19 att)
- BAL Lamar Jackson (Week 7 TB) - 158.1 (22 att)
- DET Jared Goff (Week 4 SEA) - 155.8 (18 att)
- DET Jared Goff (Week 6 DAL) - 153.8 (25 att)
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Mediocre game managers can have their moments as well I guess…
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Goff is #7 in scoring among QBs in my league. He cost next to nothing on draft day. What’s not to like?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
#7 on a PPG basis in my league also.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Only cause you asked. I'm pro Goff, but 7 games under 20 fantasy points. 3 games over 20 fantasy points.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Every week it’s the same thing - can’t make off schedule throws, doesn’t run the ball, team runs too much, et al
Now they’re calling him a civilian, can’t win with a civilian QB
Keep yapping, shouty shows
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
it's because the good majority of posters on this board do not know football. They know fantasy football and judge everything off of that but ff has nothing to do with x's and o's and actually winning games. Goff is playing out of this world this year and deserves all the accolades.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Also, the Lions are 9-1 with one of the best rushing games in the league.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
ranks:
- 1st in yards/attempt (9.23)
- 1st in passing first down % (44.1)
- t-1st in wins (9)
- 2nd in completion % (73.0)
- 2nd in passer rating (112.1)
- 2nd in TD % (7.4)
- 4th in passing TDs (20)
Looks like QB15-20 to me
- 1st in yards/attempt (9.23)
- 1st in passing first down % (44.1)
- t-1st in wins (9)
- 2nd in completion % (73.0)
- 2nd in passer rating (112.1)
- 2nd in TD % (7.4)
- 4th in passing TDs (20)
Looks like QB15-20 to me
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
boilerdave
Footballguy
Yeah.
I carried him all season as my bye week fill in for Burrow.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Almost there. Best 38 game spans for the 49ers during the Walsh (1979-88) and Seifert (1989-96) years:
| Rk | Team | Span Started | Span Ended | PtDif | G | W | L | T | Pts | PtsO | PtDif | PC |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | SFO | 1988-11-27 | 1991-09-08 | 360 | 38 | 32 | 6 | 0 | 950 | 590 | 360 | 1540 |
| 2 | SFO | 1988-11-21 | 1991-09-02 | 356 | 38 | 32 | 6 | 0 | 953 | 597 | 356 | 1550 |
| 3 | SFO | 1988-10-30 | 1990-12-17 | 354 | 38 | 32 | 6 | 0 | 959 | 605 | 354 | 1564 |
| 4 | SFO | 1988-11-13 | 1990-12-30 | 352 | 38 | 32 | 6 | 0 | 942 | 590 | 352 | 1532 |
| 5 | SFO | 1991-10-20 | 1993-12-05 | 477 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 1048 | 571 | 477 | 1619 |
| 6 | SFO | 1995-11-12 | 1997-12-15 | 387 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 1009 | 622 | 387 | 1631 |
| 7 | SFO | 1988-09-25 | 1990-11-11 | 355 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 962 | 607 | 355 | 1569 |
| 8 | SFO | 1988-11-06 | 1990-12-23 | 348 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 945 | 597 | 348 | 1542 |
| 9 | SFO | 1988-10-02 | 1990-11-18 | 348 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 955 | 607 | 348 | 1562 |
| 10 | SFO | 1988-10-24 | 1990-12-09 | 337 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 942 | 605 | 337 | 1547 |
| 11 | SFO | 1988-10-16 | 1990-12-03 | 337 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 946 | 609 | 337 | 1555 |
| 12 | SFO | 1988-12-11 | 1991-09-22 | 326 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 930 | 604 | 326 | 1534 |
| 13 | SFO | 1988-12-04 | 1991-09-15 | 319 | 38 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 916 | 597 | 319 | 1513 |
Best 38 game spans In Detroit Lions history:
| Rk | Team | Span Started | Span Ended | PtDif | W | G | W | L | T | Pts | PtsO | PtDif | PC |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | DET | 1951-11-04 | 1954-11-14 | 401 | 30 | 38 | 30 | 8 | 0 | 1048 | 647 | 401 | 1695 |
| 2 | DET | 1951-11-11 | 1954-11-21 | 398 | 30 | 38 | 30 | 8 | 0 | 1045 | 647 | 398 | 1692 |
| 3 | DET | 1951-11-18 | 1954-11-25 | 389 | 30 | 38 | 30 | 8 | 0 | 1032 | 643 | 389 | 1675 |
| 4 | DET | 2022-11-06 | 2024-11-24 | 321 | 30 | 38 | 30 | 8 | 0 | 1101 | 780 | 321 | 1881 |
4 is Dan Campbell from Halloween 2022 to present.
drummer
Footballguy
You now that a spreadsheet is only done at the office lol.
But even a spreadsheet will never show me Dan Campbell is Bill Walsh.
He doesn't have to be Bill Walsh. He has to be Dan Campbell.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The most games with a 75.0% completion percentage in a season in NFL history
(15 attempts per game minimum):
(15 attempts per game minimum):
- 8, Tom Brady, 2007
- 2t. 7, Jared Goff, 2024
- 2t. 7, Kirk Cousins, 2019
- 2t. 7, Drew Brees, 2018
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Somehow, this product of the system continues to perform at a historic clip.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Brady is exactly the name that comes to mind when I watch this guy. Philly is the hype right now but as long as Goff is QB, this team can beat anybody.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Last night, Jared Goff became the first fourth quarterback in NFL history to complete at least 5 passes to six different receivers in a single game.
Detroit Lions official account
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3rd time in regular season
Detroit Lions official account
Edit
3rd time in regular season
- Matt Hasselbeck, Seattle 2009
- Colt McCoy, Cleveland 2011
- AFC Wildcard Game
Ben Roethlisberger 47/68 for 501 Yards
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's coaching. I wrote last night in a league text, "Everyone touches the ball, great opening drive"
It's in the gamplan to try and get everyone involved so when you need them the most in the 4th Q, they are ready to catch, block, run, they are all vital to the success.
ARSB and JAMO dropped passes on the opening drive but they scored and they got it out of their system early
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Sorry Goff... As a stat nerd I'm gonna need the Lions to delete that tweet, or at least put an asterisk that they meant in the regular season.
AFC Wildcard Game
Ben Roethlisberger 47/68 for 501 Yards
Juju Smith-Schuster: 13 for 157
Diontae Johnson: 11 for 117
James Washington: 5 for 72
Eric Ebron: 7 for 62
Chase Claypool: 5 for 59
James Conner: 5 for 30
Benny Snell Jr: 1 for 4
