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QB Russell Wilson, PIT (10 Viewers)
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Eights
Footballguy
Yes, yes we very pleased!
Seahawks fans are used to tuning out all the negative we receive from most all Football Analysts! Many of us, certainly not all, watched the decline of Russ over the last 2 years. Then there's his personality, he's not liked in the locker-room-lastly you have the contract that comes along with the so called high end QB's. Yes we're Happy, as we drafted a fine first round starting Left Tackle, Charles Cross, a highly athletic and explosive LB Boye Mafe, both Denver's picks. We then added the running back of the future, Kenneth Walker, our starting Right Tackle Abraham Lucas and two potential star CB's with Coby Bryant and Tariq Woolen who Pete is calling the next Richard Sherman. All of these rookies are contributing this year.
Yes we are ecstatic, thank you Denver, enjoy your Prima Donna!
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Wilson has a favorable schedule. He's a hold in most bigger leagues where many teams have 2 QBs. In my CBSsports league, his OVP rankings are 22, 21, 13, 26, 29, 15, 30, 28, 20, 19, 28, 22.
jurrassic
Footballguy
Wilson was a revelation at Wisconsin. Wasn’t anything close to a primadonna.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
He also only played for one season at Wisconsin. Seems weird that BroncoFreak would have hated him there.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Great. More good news on my bust of a QB.
Fortunately I have a redraft trade in place next week of AJ Dillon + Daubs for Burrow + Samuel, but I was kind of wanting to not deal them for a QB since I had a QB. Gah.
Fortunately I have a redraft trade in place next week of AJ Dillon + Daubs for Burrow + Samuel, but I was kind of wanting to not deal them for a QB since I had a QB. Gah.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Crap I just realized Goff is on bye next week. That means either I stick with Russ one more week or I pick up one of Wentz/Geno/DJones, none of whom have strong match ups (Geno vs AZ is the best of the lot).
I was really looking forward to dropping him with extreme prejudice. I still may.
I was really looking forward to dropping him with extreme prejudice. I still may.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I am looking at Goff as well. Perhaps a lil patience, Perhaps find a way to add D Watson too.
Geno has been cooking. AZ will score points, so Geno might be cooking leftovers.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Honestly the Chargers would be a great matchup if we know Russ would be playing like he did last week. Sigh.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Russell Wilson - Sports medicine doctor discusses his serious throwing shoulder injury!!
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Russell Wilson - Sports medicine doctor discusses his serious throwing shoulder injury!!
#nfl #fantasyfootball #podcast #injurynews #russellwilson _______________________________________________________________________Dr. Jesse Morse discusses th...
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I tend to think this "shoulder injury" is an excuse and not really the issue.
eh, he's prob hurt.
Hartliner
Footballguy
I picked him up off waivers from the disgruntled owner who drafted them. I think low-end QB1 like Rodgers/Carr range ROS is fine and what I'm banking on in worst case. Plus the upside is maybe he actually was hurt and got the injection and it alleviates his poor play and gets back into that middle range QB1.
I'm not super invested though, so if he plays out of his mind I can see selling him high too.
I'm not super invested though, so if he plays out of his mind I can see selling him high too.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I'll probably have to pick this pig up next week as a bye week fill-in. Yuck. Couldn't hate him more than I do. But no other options at this point.
madmatg
Footballguy
I know it's espn but I'll take the hope!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...n-not-first-qb-struggle-denver-broncos-scheme
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...n-not-first-qb-struggle-denver-broncos-scheme
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
That's what you get for ruining Tebow's career.
FairWarning
Footballguy
If nothing else,we have learned that RW, Arod, and Brady are nothing more than bye week fill-ins (excluding super flex). Not a high ceiling for any of them
TZMarkie
Footballguy
I CUT RUSSELL WILSON OUTRIGHT , in my biggest money 12 teamer a bit ago.
I'm at a point (benched him tonight, and kept a close eye on him and the game), that the upside isn't there, or doesn't appear to be.
I'd just as soon stream the position now, and TAKE A CHANCE at 20, than TAKE A SHOT AT 9.6 ROLLING OUT WILSON.
I'll now be streaming the Jarred Goff, Garropollo, Marcus Mariota, Danny Jones, Justin Fields, Pickett ,and others along those lines.
It was a very cleansing experience.
I told myself 3-4 seasons back when he got off to a notoriously slow early season start, that I wouldn't draft Wilson again. Somehow, I got backed into Wilson AGAIN in this years draft when virtually all big name QBs went in about a grouping of 12 picks.
Truth be known, I put a LOT of this blame on the current coaching. But now when you look over everything, declining skills, his scrambling is starting to slip a bit, and he is now apparently injured.....thats a whole LOT of "what ifs".
Seems like an easy "never again" to me.
The only bad thing I did, was hold onto him a bit too long. It has basically turned one of my teams into a 1-5 record, and whereas a few weeks ago you could still get something in trade, now you probably can't get ANYTHING.
I'm at a point (benched him tonight, and kept a close eye on him and the game), that the upside isn't there, or doesn't appear to be.
I'd just as soon stream the position now, and TAKE A CHANCE at 20, than TAKE A SHOT AT 9.6 ROLLING OUT WILSON.
I'll now be streaming the Jarred Goff, Garropollo, Marcus Mariota, Danny Jones, Justin Fields, Pickett ,and others along those lines.
It was a very cleansing experience.
I told myself 3-4 seasons back when he got off to a notoriously slow early season start, that I wouldn't draft Wilson again. Somehow, I got backed into Wilson AGAIN in this years draft when virtually all big name QBs went in about a grouping of 12 picks.
Truth be known, I put a LOT of this blame on the current coaching. But now when you look over everything, declining skills, his scrambling is starting to slip a bit, and he is now apparently injured.....thats a whole LOT of "what ifs".
Seems like an easy "never again" to me.
The only bad thing I did, was hold onto him a bit too long. It has basically turned one of my teams into a 1-5 record, and whereas a few weeks ago you could still get something in trade, now you probably can't get ANYTHING.
Hartliner
Footballguy
Goff > RW, I still remain have a sliver of hope, his 1st quarter of the game was great (10/10), the downside is he then hit 5/18 rest of game :(
His deep ball to K.J Hamler was something to see- He did it despite a full wind up.
I'm sure I'm a glutton for punishment. He's on my bench as the backup QB so not the hugest of praise. I also have not started him anywhere yet, so zero scorn.
Hackett gonna get fired soon? Maybe that will be the new let Russ Cook narrative? Maybe it is the root cause of offense troubles?
His deep ball to K.J Hamler was something to see- He did it despite a full wind up.
I'm sure I'm a glutton for punishment. He's on my bench as the backup QB so not the hugest of praise. I also have not started him anywhere yet, so zero scorn.
Hackett gonna get fired soon? Maybe that will be the new let Russ Cook narrative? Maybe it is the root cause of offense troubles?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
September 1, 2022
-Less than 2 months ago
Russell Wilson signed a 5 year, $242,588,236 contract with the Denver Broncos, including a $50,000,000 signing bonus, $161,000,000 guaranteed
POTENTIAL OUT: 2026, 4 YR, $161,000,000; $31,200,000 DEAD CAP
-Less than 2 months ago
Russell Wilson signed a 5 year, $242,588,236 contract with the Denver Broncos, including a $50,000,000 signing bonus, $161,000,000 guaranteed
POTENTIAL OUT: 2026, 4 YR, $161,000,000; $31,200,000 DEAD CAP
Everybody got this wrong. The GM, FF drafters everywhere, FF experts. IIRC, in the FF Index poll of 20 experts, he was ranked 10th, with nobody ranking him lower than 14th. In bigger leagues like mine with multiple teams having 2 QBs, the options are limited to Ryan, Mills, Brissett.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
The rankings were correct based on past stats from Wilson. Nobody thought Wilsons regression would be this bad. Should be called Rusty going forward. Wilson owner in one 12 team league cut him already and nobody has picked him up..unreal.
What is shocking is all of a sudden Wilson has aged in dog years. The quick agile feet he used to have seem gone, he looks chunky and much slower. Seems finally after all these years teams have caught on to the same spin move he uses when under pressure, either that or he has just slowed down.
Maybe he can find it the magic again but Denver has to be
right about now as it looks doubtful. The contract is an albatross.
Boston
Footballguy
Was looking at that last night...has a chance to be an all-time bad contract...besides the contract you need to add this in:
The Broncos have agreed to trade quarterback Drew Lock, tight end Noah Fant, defensive lineman Shelby Harris, two first-round picks (2022 -- No. 9 overall -- and 2023), two second-round picks (2022 -- No. 40 overall -- and 2023) and a 2022 fifth-round selection to the Seahawks for Wilson and a 2022 fourth-round pick, sources said.
It
What a big turn around from Russell's MVP start to the 2020 season.
it's early, but the 2023 1st round pick is 1.07, projected by Tankathon to be Will Levis. The 2023 draft is deep at QB, DL, edge.
What a big turn around from Russell's MVP start to the 2020 season.
Boston
Footballguy
He looks like a RB that seem to age overnight...granted his o line looks rough, and the coaching is awful but he just doesn't look good at all.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Denver has a chance to bury their franchise for a decade, no draft picks, they'll never admit Wilson was a mistake and will double down and continue to try and bring more pieces to him but they barely have any draft capital right now to pull that off.
Boston
Footballguy
The QB position has just been haunting them...since 2009 their QBs besides Manning have been...Orton, Simms, Tebow, Osweiler, Siemian, Lynch, Keenum, Flacco, Lock and Bridgewater.
Lock, Fant, and Richardson were salary dumps of unneeded players, getting someone to take in Lock in particular was surprising and a net benefit. The picks were understandable at the time trading for a QB of his supposed caliber but giving him a market contract on top of that without actually seeing him play was beyond dumb. He didn’t even play in the preseason
Sounds a lot like the Texans, got so desperate at one point they signed Osweiler to a big contract at the start of FA without even interviewing him
Cost them a lost season and a 2nd round pick to dump him
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
I think this has a lot to do with it. Not that Russ hasn't looked good, but it looks like he's missing the spark. Almost like the playcall comes in and he's like "ugh not again." Hackett has to be feeling his seat warming up.
Boston
Footballguy
I think it is an issue but also, he is 6 games into being in Denver so it is pretty early to be feeling that way...while he was the man in Seattle he was seen as the savior in Denver and right now it doesn't appear like he is enjoying that role.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Oh for sure, the alarm bells are going off but I don't think it's defcon 6. But DEN didn't play any starters in the preseason (and they were basically running a brand new offense), and who knows how their offseason camp even went given the lack of experience on the coaching side. I'm cautiously stashing Russ (2 QB/SFLX leagues) and hoping for a coaching shift and/or the offense finding their aha moment.
Boston
Footballguy
They need a new HC ASAP.
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