Tau837
Footballguy
I think he's a QB in a situation. Thinking that situation is perfect (or merely perfect for him) might simply reflect your bias in terms of what you think Wilson is, can be or can't be. It's been stated that his o-line and receiving corp are hardly a "dream team". I don't think that's perfect.Thanks! Appreciate the #'s instead of just being a crazed fan that just spews out garbage.Here you go:The people in here are talking like he's a top 5 QB right now. How do you expect the non Seahawks fans to take that serious?
I'd rather the people in here back up some of their claims with some stats
Wilson accomplished all of these things despite the following:
- NFL ROY in 2012.
- Made the Pro Bowl in first two seasons. Other QBs to make the last 2 Pro Bowls: Brady, Brees, Luck, Peyton. That's pretty good company. Also, how many QBs have made the Pro Bowl in their first two seasons? I don't know the answer, but I expect it is pretty select company.
- Approximate Value: Wilson was tied for #5 in 2012 and tied for #3 in 2013.
- Passer Rating: Wilson was #4 in 2012 and #7 in 2013.
- Passing TDs: Wilson was #9 in both 2012 and 2013. But that was on low attempts. He was #2 in 2012 and #3 in 2013 in passing TD percentage.
- YPA: Wilson was #4 in both 2012 and 2013.
- YPC: Wilson was #5 in 2012 and #3 in 2013.
- AY/A: Wilson was #6 in 2012 and #5 in 2013.
- Game winning drives: Wilson had 5 in both 2012 and 2013. That ranked him #3 in 2012 and #1 in 2013.
- Comebacks: Wilson had 4 in both 2012 and 2013. That ranked him #3 in 2012 and #2 in 2013.
- PFF QB ratings: Wilson was the #6 overall QB in 2012 and #4 overall QB in 2013. He ranked #8 in both years for passing only and #2 in both years for running only.
- PFF QB Rating (accounts for throwaways, spikes, and drops): Wilson was #4 in 2012 and #5 in 2013.
- PFF QB Deep Passing (attempts 20+ yards downfield, accounts for drops): Wilson was #5 in 2012 and #1 in 2013.
- Record: 24-8 regular season, 4-1 postseason. How many QBs have started their careers better? Again, select company.
- Postseason performance: 2 comebacks and 2 game winning drives in 5 games; 102 passer rating is better than his 100.6 regular season passer rating; 6 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 1 interception; 1 Super Bowl championship.
- Starting from day one as a rookie; he is still just 25.
- Below average receiving corps (Rice, Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, Miller, et al.).
- Below average OL, which led to Wilson being under pressure on his dropbacks more than any other QB in 2013 and more than all but Vick in 2012.
My opinion doesn't change though. I think he's a good QB in a perfect situation. I think a lot of his numbers are helped by the fact that teams are worried about stopping the run first. The top QBs in the league are outperforming him even though defenses are keying on stopping them. I came in here initially because I liked him. I drafted him in a startup less than a month ago. Traded him shortly after, but the fact that I drafted him shows that I don't dislike him.
My hate of the Seahawks fanboyism in this thread made it come across like I'm a doubter of Wilson. I'm not a Wilson hater or doubter. I'm just against fanboys of any team. There is no way Wilson is better than Drew Brees. I understand that fanboys for the Seahawks will be bigger than ever now coming off of a super bowl. There always are.
I wish there was a Russell Wilson Bandwagon thread and a separate Seattle Seahawks Bandwagon thread so that this thread could actually discuss Russell Wilson and how it relates to fantasy football.
I have no idea if Wilson can be a pocket passer putting up a bazillion yards and points but I don't know he can't either.
Wilson has excelled at everything he has ever been asked to do in football, both in the NFL and in two separate major college conferences. There is no reason to doubt that he will play very well when Seattle inevitably needs more from their passing game to win.