STEADYMOBBIN 22
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It wouldn’t be perfect but it’s a helluva lot better than being stuck with the kid in any capacity.
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QB Shedeur Sanders, CLE (4 Viewers)
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It wouldn’t be perfect but it’s a helluva lot better than being stuck with the kid in any capacity.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
This would literally be the most Browns pick ever.This would be sooooo Browns... and I love it for them.NFL Rookie Watch
Shedeur Sanders is reportedly “drawing significant interest” from personnel inside the Titans and Browns, who just secured the No.1 and No.2 overall picks.
Sanders was reportedly “planning on” being selected by the Giants, but barring a blockbuster trade, could fall to the Browns or Titans.
However, several NFL scouts reportedly have a “range of grades” on Sanders with grades ranging from the top-five, to the fourth round.
Sanders will not be attending the NFL Draft, but will celebrate his pick from Colorado.
The Buffaloes QB may be QB1 in Cleveland or Nashville soon
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~ Steelers fan who can always ease misery by saying "at least I'm not a Browns fan"
The Cleveland Browns will never be in danger of having Sanders at QB. Dad will NEVER allow his kid to go there.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
And the Browns, in frustration and embarrassment (especially after coming off giving Watson the worst contract in NFL history), still pick him in the draft and hold firm refusing to trade Sanders away to another team.This would literally be the most Browns pick ever.This would be sooooo Browns... and I love it for them.NFL Rookie Watch
Shedeur Sanders is reportedly “drawing significant interest” from personnel inside the Titans and Browns, who just secured the No.1 and No.2 overall picks.
Sanders was reportedly “planning on” being selected by the Giants, but barring a blockbuster trade, could fall to the Browns or Titans.
However, several NFL scouts reportedly have a “range of grades” on Sanders with grades ranging from the top-five, to the fourth round.
Sanders will not be attending the NFL Draft, but will celebrate his pick from Colorado.
The Buffaloes QB may be QB1 in Cleveland or Nashville soonx.com
~ Steelers fan who can always ease misery by saying "at least I'm not a Browns fan"
The Cleveland Browns will never be in danger of having Sanders at QB. Dad will NEVER allow his kid to go there.
I can only hope this is the circus we get to watch come April/May.
But that is why it would by far be the most entertaining version.This would literally be the most Browns pick ever.This would be sooooo Browns... and I love it for them.NFL Rookie Watch
Shedeur Sanders is reportedly “drawing significant interest” from personnel inside the Titans and Browns, who just secured the No.1 and No.2 overall picks.
Sanders was reportedly “planning on” being selected by the Giants, but barring a blockbuster trade, could fall to the Browns or Titans.
However, several NFL scouts reportedly have a “range of grades” on Sanders with grades ranging from the top-five, to the fourth round.
Sanders will not be attending the NFL Draft, but will celebrate his pick from Colorado.
The Buffaloes QB may be QB1 in Cleveland or Nashville soonx.com
~ Steelers fan who can always ease misery by saying "at least I'm not a Browns fan"
The Cleveland Browns will never be in danger of having Sanders at QB. Dad will NEVER allow his kid to go there.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
LOL, he thinks he's good enough to hold his own rights and dictate which team he goes on. Simply because its a super weak QB class; hopefully the Browns sell the pick for a ton
Gatorade
Footballguy
I would like to trade Dak because of his outrageous salary, but not Dak and the #12 pick. Maybe if Sanders was still available at #12, Dallas could take him and then try to trade Dak.
titusbramble
Footballguy
That there aren't more college players going into the draft saying "lol not playing for you" is absurd
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Not so many players coming into the league with parents worth 9 figures who can afford to turn down the money though.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I don’t think I can remember hoping someone is a bust more than this guy. I just can’t stand him and his daddy.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
I think a vast majority of people feel this way. So unlikable.
GregR
Footballguy
Let me fix that headline:
Titans coach Brian Callahan impressed by first QB he hopes someone will trade up for.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Nothing to do with his physical abilities. The kid is an arrogant tool.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I think this happens way more than we realize. It just isn’t made public.
Players turn down interviews/meetings with certain teams.
I’m sure they’re flat out asked if they want to be a Bear, or a Jet, or a Jaguar.
If the answer is no it should factor into the evaluation.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
There are a lot of similarities between the offense Sanders ran at Colorado, rich with zone running and shotgun formations, and the playbook of the Browns in Madden. Cleveland has 17 formations out of the gun in Madden 25, with the majority of their run plays being on zone blocking schemes.
One of the most common misconceptions about Sanders is that he’s a dual-threat QB, when in reality he’s a prototypical pocket passer with elusiveness, which is why he thrives out of the gun with some time to process the field.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Why stop there BC? Why not just say Joe Montana if you're going to be belligerently off base in your comp? There are probably 50 QBs over the past decade who had questions on arm strength coming into the NFL and you pick the one who's also a top 3 QB in the game right now? Lol. I'd believe Shedeur and Burrow were twins separated at birth before I believed Callahan truly thinks Sanders scouted as a comp to Burrow coming out.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
He's going to be a bust and I hope the Titans don't take him. BC could just be talking him up to get the raiders or someone dumb to give us 2 firsts and a 2nd
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Of course Klatt does, he went to Colorado.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Anyone else think he's doing a disservice to himself by not participating in the combine? I get it's easy to keep kicking him and say it's because he'll do poorly; but even as someone who is not high on him, I don't think he would look that bad running drills in the combine. In fact I think he could show out well there, especially compared to the other lackluster QBs of this class, and quiet some of this "Shedeur is bad" narrative. Most of his issues to me revolve around holding onto the ball too long, a slow release, bad pocket awareness, and a drastic loss on ball velocity once he's hitting the 25-30+ yard passes. And I don't think any of those are really at risk of being magnified by the drills they do in the combine anyhow (other than maybe that last one, but without an NFL level DB closing in on his target, it still probably wouldn't be super visible).
Players like Jeanty skipping the combine, sure it stinks as a fan, but I get it. He can do very little to help his draft stock, and could risk hurting it (or even himself). Players like Shedeur who are surrounded with negative analysis and question marks seem like the exact guys who should be showing up. Sure he's (maybe) the top QB in this class. But his at best middle of the pack in QB prospects over the past 5 years or so. And getting taken top 5 seems like a big difference to sliding to the middle or end of the first. Yeah, I don't really think the latter will happen either regardless; but I still think he's the opposite of Jeanty; I think there's little he could do to hurt his prospects considering how he's already largely viewed by the community, but a lot he could do to help.
Players like Jeanty skipping the combine, sure it stinks as a fan, but I get it. He can do very little to help his draft stock, and could risk hurting it (or even himself). Players like Shedeur who are surrounded with negative analysis and question marks seem like the exact guys who should be showing up. Sure he's (maybe) the top QB in this class. But his at best middle of the pack in QB prospects over the past 5 years or so. And getting taken top 5 seems like a big difference to sliding to the middle or end of the first. Yeah, I don't really think the latter will happen either regardless; but I still think he's the opposite of Jeanty; I think there's little he could do to hurt his prospects considering how he's already largely viewed by the community, but a lot he could do to help.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Cosell is not wrong about Sanders. His tendency of backing up in the pocket under pressure is a huge red flag. The Alamo Bowl really highlighted his negatives vs a D that showed him some complexity in their schemes. He's going to struggle vs the closing speed of pass rushers in the NFL.
GregR
Footballguy
ESPN poll of scouts, decision-makers and analysts to get consensus ranking 1st round QBs of the last 5 drafts including this year's top two, Sanders and Ward. Pre-draft ranking only:
1 Caleb Williams
2 Trevor Lawrence
3 Joe Burrow
4 Jayden Daniels
5 Drake Maye
6 Tua Tagovailoa
7 Justin Herbert
8 Bryce Young
9 Zach Wilson
10 CJ Stroud
11 JJ McCarthy
12 Trey Lance
13 Anthony Richardson
14 Justin Fields
15 Mac Jones
16 Jordan Love
17 Bo Nix
18 Cam Ward
19 Michael Penix Jr
20 Shedeur Sanders
21 Kenny Picket
1 Caleb Williams
2 Trevor Lawrence
3 Joe Burrow
4 Jayden Daniels
5 Drake Maye
6 Tua Tagovailoa
7 Justin Herbert
8 Bryce Young
9 Zach Wilson
10 CJ Stroud
11 JJ McCarthy
12 Trey Lance
13 Anthony Richardson
14 Justin Fields
15 Mac Jones
16 Jordan Love
17 Bo Nix
18 Cam Ward
19 Michael Penix Jr
20 Shedeur Sanders
21 Kenny Picket
LawFitz
Footballguy
Doubts about handling pressure and escapability should not be taken lightly in modern NFL.
That said, Stroud and Penix faced the same. Shade and Dart may or may not have that ability, and I don't know if they do, but I do agree that if they don't, they will be busts regardless of draft position.
That said, Stroud and Penix faced the same. Shade and Dart may or may not have that ability, and I don't know if they do, but I do agree that if they don't, they will be busts regardless of draft position.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
She should really just come out and say he's being discriminated against because of his race instead of dancing around it for 500 words of nonsense. I guess she wouldn't have been able to hit the word count for her blurb by just cutting to the chase though. "And the comments I'm not reporting on were even worse!!!" Give me a break. If she had something to print to get herself more media traction she would. And I'm sure if he slides in the draft like some people are speculating this and more nonsense like it will wind up being the story line shoved down our throats for the next month or so.
For those thinking this is out of the blue, it's not. Josina has a history of speculatory race baiting.
Hope Shedeur proves everyone wrong with his talent on the field as that will speak the loudest, and really the league is in need of more high level QBs. But the circus is growing boring already IMO. It's not the first time people have questioned his attitude/character. Nor the first time a rookies attitude/character in general was put in question. Nor the first time some evaluators feel one way and others feel another. Pretty sure all that is how the Eagles got Jalen Carter at 9, a steal in hindsight.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I dunno. If my team is picking in the top 7 then maybe brash and arrogant is what we need...?
If it's "top 7" that means it's either 6 or 7 - which means it's either Greg Olson of the Raiders or Charles London of the Jets.
If it's "top 7" that means it's either 6 or 7 - which means it's either Greg Olson of the Raiders or Charles London of the Jets.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I'm sure some teams will certainly look at it like that. Descriptors like "brash and arrogant" quickly turn into "decisive and confident" once you get a few wins under your belt, especially in a franchise that hasn't seen em in a while.
I was listening to Dane Brugler on a podcast yesterday and I think he summed it up really well.
What he was saying was teams seem to either really like Sanders or hate him. He said he's some teams #2, he's not in other teams top 4. Ward is and has been QB1 without question for a long time now(something he's been saying for months fwiw)
He also made the point that when a team spends a first round pick on a QB, especially a high one, it's often an ownership decision. He was saying this pretty much in the context of he could see him taking a huge slide in the draft, but OTOH he could see Mark Davis instructing him to get drafted at 6.
I never in a million years saw Penix going that high last year. I will admit he was my 6th ranked QB last year, still is for that matter, but putting my feelings aside I saw that poll from league execs that ESPN put together the other day ranking out first round QB's chosen in last 5 years based on their PRE-DRAFT grade and only people Penix came in higher was Sanders and Pickett. My long winded point is that's why it's hard to forecast who might be QB2, just takes one team.
I'd still pick him as most likely to go QB2 but if he makes it past the Raiders could take a big slide. As a prospect I think he's basically Teddy Bridewater with an attitude and entourage that turns some teams off.
