QB Tyrod Taylor, NYJ (2 Viewers)

[zamboni]

Much like Russell Wilson, the problem with fantasy potential from Taylor is that you need the rushing stats. If he's not running much, the passing stats won't be enough - it's not that kind of offense that airs it out.

 

[TheFanatic]

This is a good point about the mobility of him coming off a knee injury. If they limit his designed runs his floor drops considerably. His ceiling still remains high as he could make something out of nothing just escaping (not a designed run), but the risk of him putting up 220, 1 TD and 4 rushing yards is much higher. Starting to lean back toward Cam...

 

[Synthesizer]

Through 4 games he was averaging 250 yards and 2 TDs passing per game, and generally looked really good in the pocket. Then he had the game where he ran wild but also got hurt. I agree that he isn't a top 5 QB option without his legs, but he's still a solid option. A notch below Newton until we see how much he's going to run.

 

[TheFanatic]

Through 4 games he was averaging 250 yards and 2 TDs passing per game, and generally looked really good in the pocket. Then he had the game where he ran wild but also got hurt. I agree that he isn't a top 5 QB option without his legs, but he's still a solid option. A notch below Newton until we see how much he's going to run.

250 yards and 2 TD with the threat to run. If he doesn't run at all early in the game, it won't take long for the Miami D coordinator to realize they can fall back into coverage more and shut down the pass with no threat from the run...

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

Starting him over Matt Ryan.

Still in the decision process on this one. Care to share your logic. My thoughts are that SF D is surprisingly tough at home, so thoughts that ATL torches them early and simply run the ball may be unfounded. However, Ryan has been unimpressive week to week since his hot start. My concerns on Taylor are well documented in the thread. Do they "protect" him by limiting runs, thus putting a ceiling on him? Is he truly healthy?

 

[Synthesizer]

Through 4 games he was averaging 250 yards and 2 TDs passing per game, and generally looked really good in the pocket. Then he had the game where he ran wild but also got hurt. I agree that he isn't a top 5 QB option without his legs, but he's still a solid option. A notch below Newton until we see how much he's going to run.

250 yards and 2 TD with the threat to run. If he doesn't run at all early in the game, it won't take long for the Miami D coordinator to realize they can fall back into coverage more and shut down the pass with no threat from the run...

I like the adjustments that the Buffalo O coordinator has been making all year with the injuries so this will be an interesting chess match.

 

[Chaka]

Starting him over Matt Ryan.

Still in the decision process on this one. Care to share your logic. My thoughts are that SF D is surprisingly tough at home, so thoughts that ATL torches them early and simply run the ball may be unfounded. However, Ryan has been unimpressive week to week since his hot start. My concerns on Taylor are well documented in the thread. Do they "protect" him by limiting runs, thus putting a ceiling on him? Is he truly healthy?

Ryan has been a huge disappointment, Taylor has not. Simple as that for me.

 

[Fireinside]

Playing Tyrod rather than Eli, just because Eli just threw six TD's I doubt he will produce again.

 

[Chaka]

Playing Tyrod rather than Eli, just because Eli just threw six TD's I doubt he will produce again.

Playing Eli over Ryan too (super-flex league).

 

[Van Dyman]

Might start Tyrod over Carr. Will probably waffle until the last minute then pick the wrong one.

 

[Riversco]

Tyrod with 2 rushes for 23 yards in the early going. looks like the knee is not limiting him.

 

[Tool]

looks like he's having a pretty good game - and he's only passed the ball 12 times.

 

[Ilov80s]

looks like he's having a pretty good game - and he's only passed the ball 12 times.

They are just smashing the Fins faces in on the run game, but Tygod looks fine.

 

[BobbyLayne]

outstanding game for TT

what more can you ask for?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Tyrod's game really feels like he could be a monster in another year or two. He is putting up tremendous per pass numbers, the Bills just aren't passing a whole lot. Give him a full year, more learning of the playbook, more time working with his receivers and more trust from the coaches and they could unleash him to huge numbers.

Definitely an exciting possible future

 

[Ilov80s]

Tyrod's game really feels like he could be a monster in another year or two. He is putting up tremendous per pass numbers, the Bills just aren't passing a whole lot. Give him a full year, more learning of the playbook, more time working with his receivers and more trust from the coaches and they could unleash him to huge numbers.

Definitely an exciting possible future

and Sammy is a heck of a good young weapon to toss the ball to.

 

[flysack]

Tyrod's game really feels like he could be a monster in another year or two. He is putting up tremendous per pass numbers, the Bills just aren't passing a whole lot. Give him a full year, more learning of the playbook, more time working with his receivers and more trust from the coaches and they could unleash him to huge numbers.

Definitely an exciting possible future

and Sammy is a heck of a good young weapon to toss the ball to.

Yep. Just when you think Watkins might be a wasted or busted talent, he comes in and dazzles.

 

[zftcg]

Thoughts on the Jets matchup this week? They've been burned two weeks in a row in the passing game, so hardly the world beaters they appeared to be earlier in the season. My only other option is Hoyer @ Cinci, so I think I'm going to continue rolling out TT.

 

[GroveDiesel]

If the season ended today, Tyrod Taylor would be the new record holder for completion percentage in a season, beating Drew Brees.

 

[TheFanatic]

Started Tyrod over Cam. That was a huge mistake. Didn't cost me, but it made things REAL interesting during the early games...

 

[Interseptopus]

Tyrod's game really feels like he could be a monster in another year or two. He is putting up tremendous per pass numbers, the Bills just aren't passing a whole lot. Give him a full year, more learning of the playbook, more time working with his receivers and more trust from the coaches and they could unleash him to huge numbers.

Definitely an exciting possible future

I don't watch bills games, so I don't see how well he plays. Is he worth keeping as your starter for next year? We keep three guys, giving up the draft pick ahead of where they were picked. Taylor was a FA for me, so he would cost a last round pick. I'm considering keeping him but I have concerns. Is Taylor another gimmick QB like Kapernick? Can he actually make throws?

 

[JuniorNB]

Tyrod's game really feels like he could be a monster in another year or two. He is putting up tremendous per pass numbers, the Bills just aren't passing a whole lot. Give him a full year, more learning of the playbook, more time working with his receivers and more trust from the coaches and they could unleash him to huge numbers.

Definitely an exciting possible future

I don't watch bills games, so I don't see how well he plays. Is he worth keeping as your starter for next year? We keep three guys, giving up the draft pick ahead of where they were picked. Taylor was a FA for me, so he would cost a last round pick. I'm considering keeping him but I have concerns. Is Taylor another gimmick QB like Kapernick? Can he actually make throws?

if the season ended today, he'd break Drew Brees' record for highest completion percentage in a season.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Tyrod's game really feels like he could be a monster in another year or two. He is putting up tremendous per pass numbers, the Bills just aren't passing a whole lot. Give him a full year, more learning of the playbook, more time working with his receivers and more trust from the coaches and they could unleash him to huge numbers.

Definitely an exciting possible future

I don't watch bills games, so I don't see how well he plays. Is he worth keeping as your starter for next year? We keep three guys, giving up the draft pick ahead of where they were picked. Taylor was a FA for me, so he would cost a last round pick. I'm considering keeping him but I have concerns. Is Taylor another gimmick QB like Kapernick? Can he actually make throws?

Very legit in my opinion. I've watched all his games this year. Tremendous pocket awareness. The threat to run is a bonus from a FF perspective but IRL he doesn't try turn everything into a punt return. He hangs in there, moves up or to the side to work through his progressions. If you only saw his Baltimore years you don't know this guy. One of the most improved players in the league.

 

[Ilov80s]

https://twitter.com/playsoftheweek/status/663451857113628673

He's got great touch, is super accurate and can throw darts. The only thing nod to like is the low number of attempts.

 

[GroveDiesel]

There's always the danger of a small sample size leading to poor conclusions, but Taylor seems awfully legit to me. He makes good decisions, doesn't lock onto receivers, reads defenses fairly well, is calm in the pocket with good awareness, has shown good accuracy (especially on long balls), and has a great arm. He's also shown good leadership. And despite being a good runner, he's typically pretty good about keeping his eyes downfield when be breaks out of the pocket.

There's certainly enough there IMO to be optimistic going forward.

 

[Steve Tasker]

There's always the danger of a small sample size leading to poor conclusions, but Taylor seems awfully legit to me. He makes good decisions, doesn't lock onto receivers, reads defenses fairly well, is calm in the pocket with good awareness, has shown good accuracy (especially on long balls), and has a great arm. He's also shown good leadership. And despite being a good runner, he's typically pretty good about keeping his eyes downfield when be breaks out of the pocket.

There's certainly enough there IMO to be optimistic going forward.

I would agree with this. Not enough sample size to say definitively that he's the guy, but he looks pretty good so far. There's always time for the bottom to fall out, but hopefully that's not the case here.

 

[Chaka]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

There was a discussion in another thread, and while it doesn't jive with our perception, offensive production on TNF is only minimally less than Sundays or Mondays.

I'm with you - not thrilled with guys playing Thursdays or in London, but the data doesn't support the theory. Personally I love starting guys on Sunday Night or Monday Night. Not for any rational reason, but only because I like watching them real time with no other games on to distract me. I should feel the same way about Thursday or Sunday a.m. from Wembley games, but I don't.

 

[JuniorNB]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

There was a discussion in another thread, and while it doesn't jive with our perception, offensive production on TNF is only minimally less than Sundays or Mondays.

I'm with you - not thrilled with guys playing Thursdays or in London, but the data doesn't support the theory. Personally I love starting guys on Sunday Night or Monday Night. Not for any rational reason, but only because I like watching them real time with no other games on to distract me. I should feel the same way about Thursday or Sunday a.m. from Wembley games, but I don't.

I'm with you. The thought of a starter on Thursday having a crappy game and getting behind the eight ball for the week totally sucks. I realize that there's also a chance of him having a great game, but I don't like that gamble.

 

[Sebowski]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

 

[MattFancy]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

The Jets that have allowed Carr and Bortles, to have 2 straight big days against them?

 

[BobbyLayne]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

There was a discussion in another thread, and while it doesn't jive with our perception, offensive production on TNF is only minimally less than Sundays or Mondays.

I'm with you - not thrilled with guys playing Thursdays or in London, but the data doesn't support the theory. Personally I love starting guys on Sunday Night or Monday Night. Not for any rational reason, but only because I like watching them real time with no other games on to distract me. I should feel the same way about Thursday or Sunday a.m. from Wembley games, but I don't.

I'm with you. The thought of a starter on Thursday having a crappy game and getting behind the eight ball for the week totally sucks. I realize that there's also a chance of him having a great game, but I don't like that gamble.

I've been on the receiving end a few times this year. Freeman put up a 37 pointer, I got whupped like 177-141 that week.

Two weeks later I faced Brady, Landry & NE DST - down 72. I joked in the game thread my Sunday morning counter-punch was Alex Smith (bye week filler) and Kelce. That #### actually worked. Diggs, Green, Gurley, et al - won by 37. Sweet.

 

[Sebowski]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

The Jets that have allowed Carr and Bortles, to have 2 straight big days against them?

The only Jets game I saw they completely shut down Kirk Cousins. KIRK COUSINS! I didn't like that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

The Jets that have allowed Carr and Bortles, to have 2 straight big days against them?

If they play Cromartie again that's an automatic big night for somebody. Revis is still good, but he's no island. You can get lots of underneath stuff on him. The Bills have a lot of weapons: Watkins, Clay, two productive backs, Woods is an underrated possession receiver, Tyrod is legit.

This is Rex's game. He's had this one circled since the day the schedules came out. I don't care if you like him (personally I think he's a clown), he knows how to fire his team up. He wants this one more than any game they'll play this year. He truly is that childish.

Buffalo has a brutal stretch with 5 road games in 6 weeks coming up next. There's a few winnable games in there but that #5 WC or go home probably some down to this game and Week 17 in Buffalo for both teams. Huge game for both teams.

Hope it's a great game.

 

[Chaka]

This is Rex's game. He's had this one circled since the day the schedules came out. I don't care if you like him (personally I think he's a clown), he knows how to fire his team up. He wants this one more than any game they'll play this year. He truly is that childish.

This actually worries me more than it makes me hopeful. Rex gets waaaaay to fired up for these types of games and instills the same mentality in his players. Then they go out and start committing stupid penalties all over the place and get rolled.

 

[Interseptopus]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

There was a discussion in another thread, and while it doesn't jive with our perception, offensive production on TNF is only minimally less than Sundays or Mondays.

I'm with you - not thrilled with guys playing Thursdays or in London, but the data doesn't support the theory. Personally I love starting guys on Sunday Night or Monday Night. Not for any rational reason, but only because I like watching them real time with no other games on to distract me. I should feel the same way about Thursday or Sunday a.m. from Wembley games, but I don't.

I'm with you. The thought of a starter on Thursday having a crappy game and getting behind the eight ball for the week totally sucks. I realize that there's also a chance of him having a great game, but I don't like that gamble.

I've been on the receiving end a few times this year. Freeman put up a 37 pointer, I got whupped like 177-141 that week.

Two weeks later I faced Brady, Landry & NE DST - down 72. I joked in the game thread my Sunday morning counter-punch was Alex Smith (bye week filler) and Kelce. That #### actually worked. Diggs, Green, Gurley, et al - won by 37. Sweet.

Does it really matter if the points are scored on Thursday or Sunday?

That's like saying all my guys go Sunday at noon so my opponent is "behind the eight ball" and needs to make a comeback to win... Not really. His players don't know they're losing. There's no momentum or psychological factor for fantasy football... Just points. If I'm down by 3 and my kicker scores me 4 on Monday night it's no different than if my kicker played Thursday and scored 4 points

I'll take Taylor this week.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

Jets just got torched by Oakland and Jacksonville passing games.

 

[JuniorNB]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

There was a discussion in another thread, and while it doesn't jive with our perception, offensive production on TNF is only minimally less than Sundays or Mondays.

I'm with you - not thrilled with guys playing Thursdays or in London, but the data doesn't support the theory. Personally I love starting guys on Sunday Night or Monday Night. Not for any rational reason, but only because I like watching them real time with no other games on to distract me. I should feel the same way about Thursday or Sunday a.m. from Wembley games, but I don't.

I'm with you. The thought of a starter on Thursday having a crappy game and getting behind the eight ball for the week totally sucks. I realize that there's also a chance of him having a great game, but I don't like that gamble.

I've been on the receiving end a few times this year. Freeman put up a 37 pointer, I got whupped like 177-141 that week.

Two weeks later I faced Brady, Landry & NE DST - down 72. I joked in the game thread my Sunday morning counter-punch was Alex Smith (bye week filler) and Kelce. That #### actually worked. Diggs, Green, Gurley, et al - won by 37. Sweet.

Does it really matter if the points are scored on Thursday or Sunday?

That's like saying all my guys go Sunday at noon so my opponent is "behind the eight ball" and needs to make a comeback to win... Not really. His players don't know they're losing. There's no momentum or psychological factor for fantasy football... Just points. If I'm down by 3 and my kicker scores me 4 on Monday night it's no different than if my kicker played Thursday and scored 4 points

I'll take Taylor this week.

Everyone realizes the points are the same. You missed the point

 

[Interseptopus]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

Jets just got torched by Oakland and Jacksonville passing games.

Before he was hurt, Taylor was a top 5 fantasy qb. Today, in my league, the top 5 for avg/game are

Brady

Newton

Brees

Rodgers

Dalton

Would you consider benching any of them against the jets?

Taylor is still 9th in my league in fp/g (8th because I really don't think Geno smith counts just playing one game)

The others around him are Palmer, Dalton, Rivers. I'd play all of them vs the jets.

 

[Interseptopus]

I am always hesitant to start players on Thursday nights. It's a roadie against a division rival still in contention for a wild card spot. I would lower my expectations.

Despite all that I still might be starting T-Mobile, Chris Ivory and Karlos this week.

There was a discussion in another thread, and while it doesn't jive with our perception, offensive production on TNF is only minimally less than Sundays or Mondays.

I'm with you - not thrilled with guys playing Thursdays or in London, but the data doesn't support the theory. Personally I love starting guys on Sunday Night or Monday Night. Not for any rational reason, but only because I like watching them real time with no other games on to distract me. I should feel the same way about Thursday or Sunday a.m. from Wembley games, but I don't.

I'm with you. The thought of a starter on Thursday having a crappy game and getting behind the eight ball for the week totally sucks. I realize that there's also a chance of him having a great game, but I don't like that gamble.

I've been on the receiving end a few times this year. Freeman put up a 37 pointer, I got whupped like 177-141 that week.

Two weeks later I faced Brady, Landry & NE DST - down 72. I joked in the game thread my Sunday morning counter-punch was Alex Smith (bye week filler) and Kelce. That #### actually worked. Diggs, Green, Gurley, et al - won by 37. Sweet.

Does it really matter if the points are scored on Thursday or Sunday?That's like saying all my guys go Sunday at noon so my opponent is "behind the eight ball" and needs to make a comeback to win... Not really. His players don't know they're losing. There's no momentum or psychological factor for fantasy football... Just points. If I'm down by 3 and my kicker scores me 4 on Monday night it's no different than if my kicker played Thursday and scored 4 points

I'll take Taylor this week.

Everyone realizes the points are the same. You missed the point

Not really... You said having a crappy game and getting behind the eight all sucks. I don't look at it that way at all. If a guy has a crappy game Thursday or Monday you're no worse behind the eight ball

 

[Van Dyman]

Thinking of offering Tyrod to the Luck owner (no viable backup QB). What's his (non-ppr) trade value?

 

[Sebowski]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

Jets just got torched by Oakland and Jacksonville passing games.

PM Hipple

 

[TheFanatic]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

Jets just got torched by Oakland and Jacksonville passing games.

Before he was hurt, Taylor was a top 5 fantasy qb.Today, in my league, the top 5 for avg/game are

Brady

Newton

Brees

Rodgers

Dalton

Would you consider benching any of them against the jets?

Taylor is still 9th in my league in fp/g (8th because I really don't think Geno smith counts just playing one game)

The others around him are Palmer, Dalton, Rivers. I'd play all of them vs the jets.

I don't know. Last week I was all over him and played him over Cam. Cam doubled him up. I still won, but it was much closer than it needed to be. I get that Tyrod is on the cusp of greatness, but Cam is already there. Or am I just chasing points here? Cam is on the road against a D on the rise while the Jets seem to be fading...

 

[BobbyLayne]

FTR, I'm rolling with Bortles. I'm a total pimp for Tyrod but it's not a green light matchup. Wouldn't surprise me if he did well but I'm going with what I think is a better option.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

Jets just got torched by Oakland and Jacksonville passing games.

PM Hipple

Why

 

[SproutDaddy]

With Rivers on a bye, I just picked him up. Not much out there as another owner picked up Carr last week to cover Wilson's bye. I'd probably start Carr over Wilson ROS. Only other options on the wire worth considering are Hoyer and Cutler. Jets have been lit up the past couple of weeks.

 

[Steve Tasker]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

The Jets that have allowed Carr and Bortles, to have 2 straight big days against them?

The only Jets game I saw they completely shut down Kirk Cousins. KIRK COUSINS! I didn't like that.

Of course you didn't like it....you're a Skins fan.

 

[Sebowski]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

The Jets that have allowed Carr and Bortles, to have 2 straight big days against them?

The only Jets game I saw they completely shut down Kirk Cousins. KIRK COUSINS! I didn't like that.

Of course you didn't like it....you're a Skins fan.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2015/10/25/kirk-cousins-goes-ballistic-screams-you-like-that-after-comeback-win-video/

 

[Riversco]

FTR, I'm rolling with Bortles. I'm a total pimp for Tyrod but it's not a green light matchup. Wouldn't surprise me if he did well but I'm going with what I think is a better option.

Hey I've got Bortles and Tyrod too. I'm rolling with Tyrod just because he's fun to watch.

 

[Steve Tasker]

It's not Thursday that has me benching T-Mobile, it's the Jets.

The Jets that have allowed Carr and Bortles, to have 2 straight big days against them?

The only Jets game I saw they completely shut down Kirk Cousins. KIRK COUSINS! I didn't like that.

Of course you didn't like it....you're a Skins fan.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2015/10/25/kirk-cousins-goes-ballistic-screams-you-like-that-after-comeback-win-video/

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