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Awesome jobJust finished. Overall I'm pleased. Windy, so the swim was choppy. Legs felt great on the bike but I definitely felt the lack of endurance. Felt surprisingly decent on the run, but then the legs wouldn't move. I had no delusions here but wanted sub 6 which I got (5:34:17) And I ACTUALLY RAN THE RIGHT COURSE
Oh, 2nd place in the 45-49 AG
Tuesday. I wanted to race this weekend, but to my surprise there wasn't anything around here. Yet next weekend there are several. C'est la'vie, so instead I did my two longest runs since the accident this week...and still didn't crack the top 10 on the leaderboard. Bunch animals.
One of my fitness goals as someone who has lost a bunch of weight and still has more to lose is to get to a point where I feel comfortable running outside without a shirt and look good doing it. That probably sounds like a weird goal but it was unimaginable for a long time. I still wouldn't do it today but I envy those of you who can and plan to get there some day.Nipple guys - just take your shirt off if there is any inkling of a potential issue
Absolutely neverNipple guys - just take your shirt off if there is any inkling of a potential issue
Good recommendation, I sweated all over these babies this morning and they held up great.
The best way to learn to ride faster is to ride with a group, ime. the accountability also keeps you honest on days you want to bail. Are there any local clubs or groups you can join?
I've been loving seeing you consistently out there. I wish it was more fulfilling for you.
This is awesome! I like seeing your rides and how you are much more active.
It's been mentally easier if I just block running from things I could/should do (in addition to dancing, cocaine, and making TikTok videos).
I've recently thought about looking into this. Seems a little tricky to find a group with the right schedule, pace and most importantly temperament. Maybe I should put up one of those "looking for a bass player" flyers at the local breweries with my phone number on strips at the bottom?The best way to learn to ride faster is to ride with a group, ime. the accountability also keeps you honest on days you want to bail. Are there any local clubs or groups you can join?
Eta...regardless- great consistency and keeping at it. And fantastic staying with things when running stopped being an option
I don’t know the history of your injury but I spent last summer biking and running specifically to avoid injury and the alternating really helped mentally, it was great doing something different every day(and I avoided injury)
Just my 2 cents, I think it would be a great thing. Don’t let anything/anyone stop you from something you love doing.
Thanks GB. Yeah, not much down side in trying. I just don't want to re-live the experience of injury, rest, rehab and reinjure.
This is the biggest motivator to keep getting out there, and unfortunately keeps me going out even when injured.
This sounds like the absolute right plan.
100% this. Other PT told me to rest. This guy on the phone already said that he'll first try to find a way to treat while I keep running. He gets it. Gives me confidence that he speaks my language. He's also a ~3hr marathoner. Not that being a marathoner is a requirement for being a good PT, but just more confidence that he's been through training and knows what's it's like.
Man, such a fun weekend! Anyone can sign up for 1, 2, or all 3 days of the training runs and I can see why they do. Great atmosphere and fun times. Three runs covering the last 70 miles of the WSER course.
Then you proceed to climb out of three separate canyons over the next 15 miles, which accounted for about 4,500 feet of ascent and another 2,500 descending, for 5K of vert and 7.5K of descending on the day. The temps were reasonable in the mid 80s, but I can see where the canyons will be scalding on race day. I took the time to dunk myself in a couple of the rivers/creeks for a couple minutes at the bottom of each canyon and plan to do so during the race.
Two things:Man, such a fun weekend! Anyone can sign up for 1, 2, or all 3 days of the training runs and I can see why they do. Great atmosphere and fun times. Three runs covering the last 70 miles of the WSER course.
SATURDAY (Robinson Flat to Foresthill) - Started the weekend out with 30 miles over the toughest part of the course...especially for a midwestern flatlander. I can’t believe the descents out here. I looked down at my watch at mile 15 of this run and I had a whooping 500 feet of climbing...with 5,000 feet of descending.
SUNDAY (Foresthill to Rucky Chucky River Crossing) - Another 18 miles on Sunday, in a pretty runable section though with temps now in the mid 90s. This section starts out with a nice long 2-3 mile descent once you leave Foresthill with a few shorter climbs overall in this section. I didn’t at all love the running/hiking near the end of this days run on exposed fire road. The fact that the last five miles or so of this section also parallels the river, a river I so desperately wanted to immerse myself in, is a bit of torture. Final tally, 2.5K ascent and 4K descent.
MONDAY (above Green Gate to the Finish) - Well I must admit, the prospect of another 22 miles in temps approaching 100 degrees on pretty sore legs wasn’t all that exciting when I awoke. But I traveled this far, so time to get after it. The message from anyone who has done this race us that there’s quite a bit of runable terrain in this section if you’ve not trashed your quads too much. Now I get it. There’s an especially nice six mile stretch that I’ll need to make good time on as the finish nears, because the end of the race features a couple tough climbs in what will most definitely be some slow survival miles. This section was about 2.7K of climbing and 3.6K of descending.
TAKEAWAYS - Going to have to manage the legs incredibly well. Those multi-mile descents are unlike anything I’ve experienced before, and I can see how that can lead to extreme problems as early as the middle of the race. The canyons are going to be hot and brutal. I’m hoping to come out of the high country at mile 30 feeling as well as I can, then just survive the canyons and hope I’ve got legs to run as much of the last 40 miles as I can when I pick up my pacer(s). Finally, I can’t imagine the mental fortitude it took for @SFBayDuck to survive the snowy high country, blistering heat during the canyons, and to do so battling the cutoffs knowing what lies ahead. That could be an easy course to panic on and I can see where the task would seem impossible. Major props to that guy. I knew that was an incredible feat, but have such a deeper understanding now of what a boss performance that was now that I’ve touched on the course a bit. Damn. Going to keep that in my back pocket for when I need that motivation and extra drive on race day.
Yeah based on testimonials here (for the socks, and especially for the Oofos), I decided to give both a go. I've done a week of running with the socks and the sandals come tonight.
Am I reading this right, that there are about ten miles of 9 percent grade uphill in the second 15 miles as well as about five equally steep miles of downhill?SATURDAY (Robinson Flat to Foresthill) - Started the weekend out with 30 miles over the toughest part of the course...especially for a midwestern flatlander. I can’t believe the descents out here. I looked down at my watch at mile 15 of this run and I had a whooping 500 feet of climbing...with 5,000 feet of descending.
I'll be honest... That got me out today for my hill repeats when I really wasn't feeling it. And the repeats reflect it- all over the place... But at least I got them done.
So glad you got out there, that training run is such a huge benefit if you haven't seen the course before. And that big effort basically five weeks out really gives you time to absorb the training as you go into your taper here soon, especially hardening your quads for the downhills. Don't forget those 10 post-run sauna sessions mid-month to really ramp up your heat adaptation. And start driving around with the windows up and the heat on. I think I kept a towel on my car seat for the whole month of June.Man, such a fun weekend! Anyone can sign up for 1, 2, or all 3 days of the training runs and I can see why they do. Great atmosphere and fun times. Three runs covering the last 70 miles of the WSER course.
SATURDAY (Robinson Flat to Foresthill) - Started the weekend out with 30 miles over the toughest part of the course...especially for a midwestern flatlander. I can’t believe the descents out here. I looked down at my watch at mile 15 of this run and I had a whooping 500 feet of climbing...with 5,000 feet of descending.
SUNDAY (Foresthill to Rucky Chucky River Crossing) - Another 18 miles on Sunday, in a pretty runable section though with temps now in the mid 90s. This section starts out with a nice long 2-3 mile descent once you leave Foresthill with a few shorter climbs overall in this section. I didn’t at all love the running/hiking near the end of this days run on exposed fire road. The fact that the last five miles or so of this section also parallels the river, a river I so desperately wanted to immerse myself in, is a bit of torture. Final tally, 2.5K ascent and 4K descent.
MONDAY (above Green Gate to the Finish) - Well I must admit, the prospect of another 22 miles in temps approaching 100 degrees on pretty sore legs wasn’t all that exciting when I awoke. But I traveled this far, so time to get after it. The message from anyone who has done this race us that there’s quite a bit of runable terrain in this section if you’ve not trashed your quads too much. Now I get it. There’s an especially nice six mile stretch that I’ll need to make good time on as the finish nears, because the end of the race features a couple tough climbs in what will most definitely be some slow survival miles. This section was about 2.7K of climbing and 3.6K of descending.
TAKEAWAYS - Going to have to manage the legs incredibly well. Those multi-mile descents are unlike anything I’ve experienced before, and I can see how that can lead to extreme problems as early as the middle of the race. The canyons are going to be hot and brutal. I’m hoping to come out of the high country at mile 30 feeling as well as I can, then just survive the canyons and hope I’ve got legs to run as much of the last 40 miles as I can when I pick up my pacer(s). Finally, I can’t imagine the mental fortitude it took for @SFBayDuck to survive the snowy high country, blistering heat during the canyons, and to do so battling the cutoffs knowing what lies ahead. That could be an easy course to panic on and I can see where the task would seem impossible. Major props to that guy. I knew that was an incredible feat, but have such a deeper understanding now of what a boss performance that was now that I’ve touched on the course a bit. Damn. Going to keep that in my back pocket for when I need that motivation and extra drive on race day.
You can see the elevation profile here. He's talking about that section from Last Chance through Foresthill, what is known as "The Canyons". Brutal climbs and descents, and in the still air the heat gets trapped down there on race days with a 95 degree day up top turning into 110 degrees down at the bottom. There are stream crossings at the bottom of each (which @SayWhat?will be wise to take advantage of on race day), but as refreshing as a dip in those are you're bone dry about a mile up the climb each time. My tip here is to get some nutrition in about 15-20 minutes before you hit the bottom of each canyon, cool off in the stream, and as you climb the calories should hopefully be through your stomach and be useful. Or you could be like me on race day and puke your way all the way up Devils Thumb (hint: I don't recommend that approach).
1. Concur.Two things:
1. Eff That.
2. When is the race. Can't wait to follow along.
Yeah, I think having seen the course at least now let’s me prepare mentally a bit over the next few weeks. I believe it’ll better help me avoid a panic when I hit those low spots as well. And yeah, I don’t get quad training like that in MN, so hopefully that helps come race day.
Looks like you are gonna have some mid-90's to run in this weekend. Perfect timing actually.1. Concur.
2. June 26th :gulp:
Yeah, I think having seen the course at least now let’s me prepare mentally a bit over the next few weeks. I believe it’ll better help me avoid a panic when I hit those low spots as well. And yeah, I don’t get quad training like that in MN, so hopefully that helps come race day.
Was planning to hammer the sauna sessions over the next two weeks. And I’ll keep the “windows up, heat on, and towel in hand” concept in mind too you crazy *******.
For that section of the 100 mile course, yep.
Yeah, unfortunately was planning a bit of a recovery week. But I’ll try to get out for a couple hours for sure.
