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gianmarco
Footballguy
It’s ok to take a rest day. Your mind and body wants it, so give it to them.
Merry Christmas all!
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
@Zasada, when I’m having a day like that when the body isn’t feeling it but my mind is pushing me I try to just put on my gear and head out for a hike. Sometimes I feel better and start running, sometimes I don’t and come home after a 45 minute hike. Either way I come home feeling better. I offer this suggestion specifically to you, everyone else in here is all “A hike? That’s dumb!”
Or it’s Christmas, and a good day to take a rest day.
Or it’s Christmas, and a good day to take a rest day.
gianmarco
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Got new running shoes, running shorts and about 4-5 dri-fit shirts. But I still can’t run because of my damn hamstring 
Merry Christmas gents.
Merry Christmas gents.
Zasada
Footballguy
Yup I considered that but I just don't have enough time to get out of town today with all the family activities. So it was either a run from home or nothing. I took the dog for a 45-minute walk and that will have to do it today.
Back to Prairie Mountain tomorrow!
ETA: Also popped a Naproxen to hopefully get my legs to settle a bit.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Merry Christmas, guys! Looking forward to a more active 2019.
jb1020
Footballguy
Gear/tech question....I was going to get myself a new watch for Christmas, but can't justify it. I notice on strava everyone still has a dedicated watch, mainly Garmin. Has anyone with an Apple watch considered ditching the run watches and just using an apple watch with the built in Strava feature? I can't see a good reason not too other than liking the layout of Garmin Connect (and having about 10 years worth of running on it). But I think Strava has all the same info, at least for the most part.
I wanted to upgrade so I can fiddle with music on my wrist instead of digging the phone out and getting rid of the HRM strap, but the apple watch already does both these things.
Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. My wife got me some Bose earbuds that have a built in HRM. Bless her heart...she really does listen to me talk about HR and all that nonsense I always figured went in one ear and out the other. I don't have the heart to tell her the HR feature is practically useless to me.
Just wondered if anyone else had wrestled with these thoughts. I'm bored at work. Pretty much waiting on the phone to ring while looking at watches and designing Teslas I'll never be able to afford.
I wanted to upgrade so I can fiddle with music on my wrist instead of digging the phone out and getting rid of the HRM strap, but the apple watch already does both these things.
Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. My wife got me some Bose earbuds that have a built in HRM. Bless her heart...she really does listen to me talk about HR and all that nonsense I always figured went in one ear and out the other. I don't have the heart to tell her the HR feature is practically useless to me.
Just wondered if anyone else had wrestled with these thoughts. I'm bored at work. Pretty much waiting on the phone to ring while looking at watches and designing Teslas I'll never be able to afford.
The Iguana
Footballguy
I actually was just researching this to ask for a new watch for Christmas - I have/had a Fitbit HR before and hated having to carry my phone with me on runs to have GPS. So, I researched a number of options before deciding on what to ask Santa for Christmas. For me, it came down to one of 3 options:
1) Apple Watch
2) Garmin Vivoactive 3 with Music
3) Fitbit Ionic
Those 3 are all very similar so if you are considering the Apple watch, I'd look into the other 2 as well. For different reasons I found all 3 to be very viable and could see each one being the "right choice" depending on circumstance. All 3 leave a little something to be desired the more "serious" you are about the running part - particularly if you have plans/desires to do triathlons, etc. But they all do everything you want if you are someone like me that is a hack in this - i.e. doing it more for fun and fitness than for major competitive running, etc.
The music options and other stuff were less the decider for me. I ended up picking the Garmin mostly because I like the Golf features it had better than the other 2. If you have other Apple products, the Apple watch definitely gets a huge bump from being able to leverage your Apple purchases, music, etc.
All 3 have a very similar price point. I'd just do a little research into each to see which one fits your circumstance the best.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Also note, the Garmin links directly to Atrava too, as will both of the others. I haven't gone for a run yet to test it out but I did link my Garmin to my Strava account already. I had my Fitbit linked in before too and runs with my phone would auto show up in there too so any of them should link/auto upload to Strava
Ignore that if I misunderstood that part of the post.
Ignore that if I misunderstood that part of the post.
bushdocda
Footballguy
I think you could manually select/sync the 10 yrs of garmin activities to strava if you wanted to consolidate and just use Apple Watch to Strava going forward. Don’t think you can go Apple Watch to Garmin Connect though. Never had an Apple Watch though.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Only thing I would question would be the accuracy of the GPS on the Apple Watch. I've never tried it, so don't have any detail. I just know that when I tried to use the Strava app on my iPhone a few years ago on trails, it was off by a matter of miles. I'm sure Apple's GPS has improved, and maybe it's not an issue anymore (or on roads).
JShare87
Footballguy
The new Apple Watches (Series 3 and above) are really good. The HR is usually spot on, more so than the Garmin imo. The ability to stream music from your wrist is awesome, although Garmin did come out with a streaming watch. I was on a run the other day with my Apple Watch and my friend called, and we had a 10 minute conversation (if you’re into that kind of thing). The only reason I ever got a Garmin was the battery life. With an Apple Watch that is running GPS, an excercise app, and music, the battery life is about 3 hours on a full charge. When training for or running a marathon, I realized the battery life wouldn’t last, so my wife got me a Garmin for Christmas last year. I still love listening to music, so I run with 2 watches. The new Apple Watch even tracks cadence and stride length now as well. To each their own, but I don’t think you can go wrong with an Apple Watch.
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Tri-man’s 2018 Year-end Report
Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?
As planned, I was able to start the year with a few runs in Zanzibar, Tanzania, and South Africa as well as a swim in the Indian Ocean. That adds three more countries to my running list (now at 12) and another ocean (along with the Atlantic and also Med. Sea).
Triathlon goal was to compete in a HM again, but I changed that to a more-than-a sprint race, which was very successful as I placed 3rd in the AG …very cool to medal in a triathlon.
Race goals for running were not specific other than a desire to train hard in the fall and bring down my 5K time. The racing was haphazard, but through it all I was able to medal mong …AG 1st place awards in two 5Ks, an AG 3rd place in one of the competitive CARA race circuit 5Ks, and an AG 1st place in a local 8K. However, the training wasn’t consistent and the 5K times continue to languish in the 21
x range.
New accomplishments or PRs in 2018:
The triathlon AG award wasn’t new (I received one about ten years ago), but it was rare, given that I haven’t invested in an expensive bike.
And I got onto Strava.
Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):
The triathlon in general was really satisfying – a smooth swim, a strong bike, for me, and especially the run leg (4.5 miles) where I just crushed a lot of the field, racking up about four dozen ‘kills’ while running a 7:16/mile pace.
A race or race training disappointment during 2018:
Once again, I was dealing with injury. Last year it was the lingering effects of a heel issue; this year was severe hip pain in the fall. That made this year’s Dances with Dirt a challenging experience as the hip pain returned in mile one, and I ran over twenty tough trail miles for the day.
I regret being too busy to not properly digest/internalize the training reports posted on Strava or all of the information and conversation here in the thread.
Total training volume during 2018:
Running will end up around 1,200 miles. I’ll also end up with about 800 miles (45 hours) of biking indoors and out and about 40 miles (60 hours) of swimming. But all in all, the training was not consistent and didn’t include enough quality work. I need to sharpen that up in 2019.
Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:
I suppose I’ve learned that this doesn’t get any easier as I get older. I need to be more particular about taking care of my body, as evidenced by a string of injuries over the past few years. That calls for more cross-training (which is a primary reason for the June tri’s), though I really need to focus more on flexibility, core, strength, and nutrition.
As I look toward a marathon training cycle next fall, I’ve picked up some good info on better training, particularly by monitoring the work of many of you guys as well as related info some of you have posted.
Best memories of other guys’ training or races in 2018:
I always enjoy reading about the accomplishments of the newbies in the thread. Helping to bring them along keeps us all fresh, and that was true again this year. But we learned from them as well.
My specific race memories are all the incredible marathon performances – sub-3:00 efforts, gutting out finishes, and fighting through nasty weather. Truly BMF stuff. And speaking of BMF, @SFBayDuck's effort at Grindstone was hard to even comprehend.
Other experiences or comments (about your year or any of the other guys, including funny memories):
The post-race, um, projectile stories were humorous, and the string of “BMF” banter was funny. But most of all, I just really enjoy this community and the true friendships formed (several of which continue on with guys who are no longer active here). You guys rock!
Goal(s) for 2019:
After generally killing time for a couple of years, I finally get a BQ marathon attempt back on my horizon for either very late in 2019 or early 2020. I might try the small Texas marathon on 1/1/20 again. If something goes wrong, I’ll still have time to gear up again in the following spring for a 2021 BQ attempt.
Until then, my goal is to improve by 60-90 seconds in the June triathlon and to be a medal monger there and in a handful of other running races (hopefully with @Juxtatarotand @Brony again).
I’d like to hit 2,000 miles of running for the year, particularly with marathon training in the fall.
Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?
As planned, I was able to start the year with a few runs in Zanzibar, Tanzania, and South Africa as well as a swim in the Indian Ocean. That adds three more countries to my running list (now at 12) and another ocean (along with the Atlantic and also Med. Sea).
Triathlon goal was to compete in a HM again, but I changed that to a more-than-a sprint race, which was very successful as I placed 3rd in the AG …very cool to medal in a triathlon.
Race goals for running were not specific other than a desire to train hard in the fall and bring down my 5K time. The racing was haphazard, but through it all I was able to medal mong …AG 1st place awards in two 5Ks, an AG 3rd place in one of the competitive CARA race circuit 5Ks, and an AG 1st place in a local 8K. However, the training wasn’t consistent and the 5K times continue to languish in the 21
x range.New accomplishments or PRs in 2018:
The triathlon AG award wasn’t new (I received one about ten years ago), but it was rare, given that I haven’t invested in an expensive bike.
And I got onto Strava.
Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):
The triathlon in general was really satisfying – a smooth swim, a strong bike, for me, and especially the run leg (4.5 miles) where I just crushed a lot of the field, racking up about four dozen ‘kills’ while running a 7:16/mile pace.
A race or race training disappointment during 2018:
Once again, I was dealing with injury. Last year it was the lingering effects of a heel issue; this year was severe hip pain in the fall. That made this year’s Dances with Dirt a challenging experience as the hip pain returned in mile one, and I ran over twenty tough trail miles for the day.
I regret being too busy to not properly digest/internalize the training reports posted on Strava or all of the information and conversation here in the thread.
Total training volume during 2018:
Running will end up around 1,200 miles. I’ll also end up with about 800 miles (45 hours) of biking indoors and out and about 40 miles (60 hours) of swimming. But all in all, the training was not consistent and didn’t include enough quality work. I need to sharpen that up in 2019.
Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:
I suppose I’ve learned that this doesn’t get any easier as I get older. I need to be more particular about taking care of my body, as evidenced by a string of injuries over the past few years. That calls for more cross-training (which is a primary reason for the June tri’s), though I really need to focus more on flexibility, core, strength, and nutrition.
As I look toward a marathon training cycle next fall, I’ve picked up some good info on better training, particularly by monitoring the work of many of you guys as well as related info some of you have posted.
Best memories of other guys’ training or races in 2018:
I always enjoy reading about the accomplishments of the newbies in the thread. Helping to bring them along keeps us all fresh, and that was true again this year. But we learned from them as well.
My specific race memories are all the incredible marathon performances – sub-3:00 efforts, gutting out finishes, and fighting through nasty weather. Truly BMF stuff. And speaking of BMF, @SFBayDuck's effort at Grindstone was hard to even comprehend.
Other experiences or comments (about your year or any of the other guys, including funny memories):
The post-race, um, projectile stories were humorous, and the string of “BMF” banter was funny. But most of all, I just really enjoy this community and the true friendships formed (several of which continue on with guys who are no longer active here). You guys rock!
Goal(s) for 2019:
After generally killing time for a couple of years, I finally get a BQ marathon attempt back on my horizon for either very late in 2019 or early 2020. I might try the small Texas marathon on 1/1/20 again. If something goes wrong, I’ll still have time to gear up again in the following spring for a 2021 BQ attempt.
Until then, my goal is to improve by 60-90 seconds in the June triathlon and to be a medal monger there and in a handful of other running races (hopefully with @Juxtatarotand @Brony again).
I’d like to hit 2,000 miles of running for the year, particularly with marathon training in the fall.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Got to use my new watch on my first run last night... which was fun and good - nothing like a new toy to feel like a kid again.
Felt like crap after a couple of days of indulgence in good food and drink combined with no working out... which was not fun or good - nothing like a dose of reality on how life can affect your training.
Felt like crap after a couple of days of indulgence in good food and drink combined with no working out... which was not fun or good - nothing like a dose of reality on how life can affect your training.
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gruecd
Footballguy
Got an Apple Watch for Christmas but haven't used it for running yet. Will report back when I do. I don't see myself ever ditching my Garmin, so I'll probably be another dual-watch runner. I do see the appeal of being able to text/call with the Apple Watch, especially if I'm running alone in the dark or if I'm expecting a call for work, as I hate carrying a phone when I run.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Does your watch have standalone LTE?
I run with 2 watches now. The Gear S3 I've had for a bit now (but HR sucks for and didn't have Strava integration until just a couple weeks ago). I also run with the Garmin 235 and does everything I need.
But I always run with my phone. That's why the FlipBelt is awesome. Throw my phone (plus keys or IDs) in there and don't even know it's there. Can use my Gear for music, calls, texts as needed and not interrupt running.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
This is me now, too, since I got a FlipBelt. As you all know I like having the camera, and with one Jaybird Run earbud in I can listen to podcasts, conference calls, answer the phone (without taking it out), etc. And the Fenix3 HR shows me the first few lines of any text messages I get.
gruecd
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
That's not bad. But since I already have it ($25 for FlipBelt), no need on my end. Just something to consider. Like Duck said, I can see first few lines of texts or emails at a glance and can answer the phone/text as needed, which is pretty rare but nice when something comes up and not have to stop to deal with. Ditching the arm strap was so nice after getting the belt.
JAA
Footballguy
JAA’s 2018 Year-end Report
Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?
I achieved all of my goals. I also dont think I did anything outside of my goals. I guess beating those 17 yo kids in the Boy Scout mini-tri was nice.
Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):
Im proud of the 5 mile swim. While triathlons are a pretty cool achievement, there are a lot of triathletes out there must faster than me on the course, who would never attempt a swim of this length. Now, what they may not know is that it's a much easier event then they realize. Now that Ive done it, I can say that 75% of it was mental. I think my proudest segment of last year was the 2nd 1/3rd of this event. I remember being in the water wondering if it was even possible for me to complete. How on earth would I finish this 4 hours of monotony? Once I passed 3600 yards I knew it was possible. Huge mental boost here and looking back I was very proud of pushing through it.
A race or race training disappointment during 2018:
I was kinda disappointed with my AG podium. I didnt prepare well for it on the bike. I wasnt mentally prepared for it. I tapered too much for it. I also overheated on race day. Not my most proud moment. My time wasnt that great and I only got the podium because of the depth of talent. What I learned from this was to not focus on other people, even if it is a podium. I also learned, quite frankly, that the field of my AG is one I will never be a top 5% of ... ever in a large event.
Total training volume during 2018:
swim (yd) bike (mi) run (mi)
2017 147824 2148.5 478.1
2018 222519 3169.8 626.4
Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:
My favorite memory from reading the posts here was the race from one of our western FBGs ?? SFBayDuck or MAC_32 ?? with the 100k?? mountain? event. This is the story where our BMF is making good progress but something physically comes up. He tries to persevere, but his body isn't having it. Shortly there after there is puking and shaking with ultimately his body shutting down. He needs to DNF the race.
What I like about this story is the realness and brutality. It helps remind me that this is somewhat serious business and should not be taken lightly. However, a DNF is not the end. A DNF is an opportunity. An opportunity to start again and build. Use this as a teaching moment which will help propel anyone to work more, train harder, and not give up. I like the story as a reminder, it's one I will not forget.
Other experiences or comments (about your year or any of the other guys, including funny memories):
The term BMF is quite a nice discovery in 2018
Goal(s) for 2019:
Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?
- First Ironman 70.3
- 5 mile swim across Oneida lake
- First AG podium at my local sprint tri
I achieved all of my goals. I also dont think I did anything outside of my goals. I guess beating those 17 yo kids in the Boy Scout mini-tri was nice.
Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):
Im proud of the 5 mile swim. While triathlons are a pretty cool achievement, there are a lot of triathletes out there must faster than me on the course, who would never attempt a swim of this length. Now, what they may not know is that it's a much easier event then they realize. Now that Ive done it, I can say that 75% of it was mental. I think my proudest segment of last year was the 2nd 1/3rd of this event. I remember being in the water wondering if it was even possible for me to complete. How on earth would I finish this 4 hours of monotony? Once I passed 3600 yards I knew it was possible. Huge mental boost here and looking back I was very proud of pushing through it.
A race or race training disappointment during 2018:
I was kinda disappointed with my AG podium. I didnt prepare well for it on the bike. I wasnt mentally prepared for it. I tapered too much for it. I also overheated on race day. Not my most proud moment. My time wasnt that great and I only got the podium because of the depth of talent. What I learned from this was to not focus on other people, even if it is a podium. I also learned, quite frankly, that the field of my AG is one I will never be a top 5% of ... ever in a large event.
Total training volume during 2018:
swim (yd) bike (mi) run (mi)
2017 147824 2148.5 478.1
2018 222519 3169.8 626.4
Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:
- You can always push yourself harder
- I will never be a fast triathlete
- I dont need to be a fast triathlete
- Im pretty good at suffering
My favorite memory from reading the posts here was the race from one of our western FBGs ?? SFBayDuck or MAC_32 ?? with the 100k?? mountain? event. This is the story where our BMF is making good progress but something physically comes up. He tries to persevere, but his body isn't having it. Shortly there after there is puking and shaking with ultimately his body shutting down. He needs to DNF the race.
What I like about this story is the realness and brutality. It helps remind me that this is somewhat serious business and should not be taken lightly. However, a DNF is not the end. A DNF is an opportunity. An opportunity to start again and build. Use this as a teaching moment which will help propel anyone to work more, train harder, and not give up. I like the story as a reminder, it's one I will not forget.
Other experiences or comments (about your year or any of the other guys, including funny memories):
The term BMF is quite a nice discovery in 2018
Goal(s) for 2019:
- First Ironman 140.6 (Mont Tremblant)
- 10 mile swim of Oneida lake (half the width)
- I guess I should write "first marathon". For next year I will need to do a marathon as part of my first 140.6. I've done a total of three 13.1's to date, one of which was part of my 70.3 this year.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Yup, that was me - DNFing at mile 52 of Angeles Crest 100M. I really like your take in the 2nd paragraph. I struggled mentally afterward for some time to come to grips with it, but jumping back on the horse and ramping back up into Grindstone training was me trying to "....work more, train harder, and not give up."
Congrats on hitting all three of your goals for the year! Looking forward to following along as you take on the big ### goals you have for this year (10 mile swim?!?!?!).
Brony
Footballguy
I still owe a year report and will work on that over next few days.
I had excision on my precancerous stuff on my face today and even though it is far removed from running, the directive is no exercise for the next 7+ days. Timing is good as I've had some nagging knots in my hammy and lower calf muscles that could use the week of rest. It's a little bit of bummer as I thought this is my golden time post injection but what can you do. Hard to complain about anything after catching up on Randall146 thread.
Hope everyone had great Christmas. I still have one more day with family guests and then next week it's just me and the daughters as my wife goes back to work. Looking forward to that and then I will amp up the search for work in the new year. Hoping I can get 1 or more hiking trips in while I am off.
I had excision on my precancerous stuff on my face today and even though it is far removed from running, the directive is no exercise for the next 7+ days. Timing is good as I've had some nagging knots in my hammy and lower calf muscles that could use the week of rest. It's a little bit of bummer as I thought this is my golden time post injection but what can you do. Hard to complain about anything after catching up on Randall146 thread.
Hope everyone had great Christmas. I still have one more day with family guests and then next week it's just me and the daughters as my wife goes back to work. Looking forward to that and then I will amp up the search for work in the new year. Hoping I can get 1 or more hiking trips in while I am off.
JShare87
Footballguy
I saw that thread. That is one of my biggest fear in life, being diagnosed with ALS. It is such an awful diagnosis. Perspective is a hell of a thing. Hope you get better soon.
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JAA
Footballguy
Yea, the next swim distance will be 10 mi.SFBayDuck said:
The weird thing is, if I attempt it this season, which I want to do, I will not have trained for it. At least the specificity of the event.
This past season I put in a #### ton of yards. I read in my marathon swimming book and forums to try and get in your event distance consistently on a weekly basis. With the logistics of long swims, it’s hard to get in more than 2 hours of time without a support crew. So this past year I was putting in 10k yards a week, plus my biking and running, leading up to the event. It was brutal. This season I’ll be putting in the time, just not on the swim. If I feel good around the July timeframe, I’ll give the swim a go and see what happens. Should be like 7ish hours of suffering.
This is where I say anyone can do this. A 7 hour event is hard, but not that hard if you train for it. I did like 5:45 on my 70.3 this year and I know I could have added 2 hours more of work if that’s what it took.
JAA
Footballguy
IMO don’t punish yourself for the day off, take it. If you want to punish yourself, do it for the alcohol.
For me, I need to be religious close to race day. I find only 2 servings of alcohol can put me at a deficit for 2-3 days.
JAA
Footballguy
Got my first pair of Saucony today. I went with the Ride ISO. Compared to my Brooks they are a tad softer. Also, these have a ?smaller? heel. I was told this will force me into more of a mid foot strike.
I really liked jogging in them at the store. I could tell the heel difference and while it’s noticable, my instinct said to give it a try.
I really liked jogging in them at the store. I could tell the heel difference and while it’s noticable, my instinct said to give it a try.
jb1020
Footballguy
I got a pair of running shorts from Lululemon for Christmas. The liner runs about 4-5 inches down your leg. It has a insert in the liner that holds your phone on the front of your thigh. Its great, I was skeptical at first.gianmarco said:
I do have the flip belt (thanks to you guys) but I still view it as just one more thing to do before I run. These shorts are great.
Sand
Footballguy
Seeing as I'm genetically mandated to look at anything in Lululemon this makes me... confused.
-OZ-
Footballguy
2018 Year-end Report
Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?
From the 2017 report:
10k under 40 minutes. Nope
1 Mile under 6. Nope
To get back in the pool and ride. Yes
One race each month with my 9yo. To make him earn beating me. During the school year yes, not during the summer, we fell off a bit in the summer.
To bench my weight 10x
Yes
25 pull-ups in a minute
Yes
30 foot to bar leg lifts in a minute
Yes
To get stronger and faster. Perhaps at the expense of endurance.
Stronger, not faster
New accomplishments or PRs in 2018:
A couple podium finishes, rocket City tri and Racin the station, elkmont half. No new PRs in races
Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):
The run portion of the rocket City tri, while not my best ever felt really good. Bike in the Racin the station felt great.
A race or race training disappointment during 2018:
My lack of motivation for the country music marathon was the biggest disappointment. I tried to want it but the love just wasn't there during training or the race. Still glad I did it as a fundraiser. My lack of motivation led to an okay but unspectacular time.
Total training volume during 2018:
with 3 days left I'll estimate another 40 run miles with 6, 3, 31. So that makes:
1,802 running miles
1612 cycling (plus estimated another 300 on the trainers between work and the TDF at home)
65,000 yards in the pool
I'm not sure how to see the number of strength sessions but probably an average of 2 per week, call it an even 100.
Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:
I've said it in jest before but honestly I probably won't do another road marathon. At least not for a while.
I feel a lot better if I vary my workouts to include strength sessions. I'll never be a power lifter but my muscular endurance is decent for a middle aged dude.
Tri is so much better for me than running, is really kind of amazing how much better I feel and how much more fun tri is for me. I have mad respect for you beasts who run days on end (duck) or like the wind (many of you. where's Steve anyway?) But it's just not me anymore. The pinhotti is still on my bucket list but it will be a couple years before I attempt it.
Best memories of other guys’ training or races in 2018:
So many here, every one of you motivate and inspire.
YOU (YES YOU!) are a BMF. truly, if you're reading this, you [insert name] are an epic bad a$$.
Goal(s) for 2019:
Get and stay healthy, in all facets. No real time goals for anything.
Right now the only run race I'm signed up for is the bridge Street half (local race I ran in 2016, worked an aid station in 17). I'll do whatever local tri I can make. Biggest race right now is the goose island 70.3 in May.
I've said it before but it bears repeating, I'm going to essentially be a single dad for 4 months and try to make it out to Memphis whenever possible. That's going to be my priority through May. Then we'll see how things go. Princess dragon fruit is going through the race of her life, we're here to support her. While keeping the boys going.
The oldest just passed his permit test
he will probably get his license by the summer.
A buddy at work (a young Captain) says he wants to sign up for pinhotti this year, I told him I won't run it but would love to pace his last twenty miles or so. I really hope he does it so I have an excuse to go check it out.
Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?
From the 2017 report:
10k under 40 minutes. Nope
1 Mile under 6. Nope
To get back in the pool and ride. Yes
One race each month with my 9yo. To make him earn beating me. During the school year yes, not during the summer, we fell off a bit in the summer.
To bench my weight 10x
Yes
25 pull-ups in a minute
Yes
30 foot to bar leg lifts in a minute
Yes
To get stronger and faster. Perhaps at the expense of endurance.
Stronger, not faster
New accomplishments or PRs in 2018:
A couple podium finishes, rocket City tri and Racin the station, elkmont half. No new PRs in races
Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):
The run portion of the rocket City tri, while not my best ever felt really good. Bike in the Racin the station felt great.
A race or race training disappointment during 2018:
My lack of motivation for the country music marathon was the biggest disappointment. I tried to want it but the love just wasn't there during training or the race. Still glad I did it as a fundraiser. My lack of motivation led to an okay but unspectacular time.
Total training volume during 2018:
with 3 days left I'll estimate another 40 run miles with 6, 3, 31. So that makes:
1,802 running miles
1612 cycling (plus estimated another 300 on the trainers between work and the TDF at home)
65,000 yards in the pool
I'm not sure how to see the number of strength sessions but probably an average of 2 per week, call it an even 100.
Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:
I've said it in jest before but honestly I probably won't do another road marathon. At least not for a while.
I feel a lot better if I vary my workouts to include strength sessions. I'll never be a power lifter but my muscular endurance is decent for a middle aged dude.
Tri is so much better for me than running, is really kind of amazing how much better I feel and how much more fun tri is for me. I have mad respect for you beasts who run days on end (duck) or like the wind (many of you. where's Steve anyway?) But it's just not me anymore. The pinhotti is still on my bucket list but it will be a couple years before I attempt it.
Best memories of other guys’ training or races in 2018:
So many here, every one of you motivate and inspire.
YOU (YES YOU!) are a BMF. truly, if you're reading this, you [insert name] are an epic bad a$$.
Goal(s) for 2019:
Get and stay healthy, in all facets. No real time goals for anything.
Right now the only run race I'm signed up for is the bridge Street half (local race I ran in 2016, worked an aid station in 17). I'll do whatever local tri I can make. Biggest race right now is the goose island 70.3 in May.
I've said it before but it bears repeating, I'm going to essentially be a single dad for 4 months and try to make it out to Memphis whenever possible. That's going to be my priority through May. Then we'll see how things go. Princess dragon fruit is going through the race of her life, we're here to support her. While keeping the boys going.
The oldest just passed his permit test
he will probably get his license by the summer. A buddy at work (a young Captain) says he wants to sign up for pinhotti this year, I told him I won't run it but would love to pace his last twenty miles or so. I really hope he does it so I have an excuse to go check it out.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
https://www.outsideonline.com/2377976/stop-overthinking-your-running-cadence
It’s Time to Rethink the Ideal Running Cadence
It’s Time to Rethink the Ideal Running Cadence
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
The author's conclusion is what seems to make sense to me. I think this has been the general consensus of opinion in this thread.
Ned
Footballguy
Well, my luck continues to be less than stellar. I hurt my left knee playing pickup soccer on Wednesday afternoon - went up for a header and when I landed, I felt the soft turf/mud move under me = immediate pain on the outside of the knee. I played through it at half speed, but I knew something was wrong. It has since swelled up to the size of a size 1 soccer ball. Pain isn't bad, but range of motion is 50% with the swelling. Its starting to feel a bit better this afternoon, so we shall see.
This was supposed to be week 2 of the achilles study, but obviously I had to tap out given the injury. I haven't heard back from the doc (assume he's on vacation) on how he wants to proceed. Maybe I can restart if I recover quickly.
@pbm107 - he said they only got 6 responses from that twitter post. I was the only injured runner to respond. He said thanks for forwarding it to me
This was supposed to be week 2 of the achilles study, but obviously I had to tap out given the injury. I haven't heard back from the doc (assume he's on vacation) on how he wants to proceed. Maybe I can restart if I recover quickly.
@pbm107 - he said they only got 6 responses from that twitter post. I was the only injured runner to respond. He said thanks for forwarding it to me
jb1020
Footballguy
Did your knee hit the ground when you fell? I had a football injury in HS when I got hit and fell knee first. The doctor told me I burst my Bursitis sack. It wasn't all that painful, but it looked awful. Swelling looked like I had a cantaloupe under my skin. I kept a compression sleeve on it for a few days, then it bruised like crazy. It was back to normal in about a week.Well, my luck continues to be less than stellar. I hurt my left knee playing pickup soccer on Wednesday afternoon - went up for a header and when I landed, I felt the soft turf/mud move under me = immediate pain on the outside of the knee. I played through it at half speed, but I knew something was wrong. It has since swelled up to the size of a size 1 soccer ball. Pain isn't bad, but range of motion is 50% with the swelling. Its starting to feel a bit better this afternoon, so we shall see.
This was supposed to be week 2 of the achilles study, but obviously I had to tap out given the injury. I haven't heard back from the doc (assume he's on vacation) on how he wants to proceed. Maybe I can restart if I recover quickly.
@pbm107 - he said they only got 6 responses from that twitter post. I was the only injured runner to respond. He said thanks for forwarding it to me
Hopefully it goes away fast.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
why they hell haven't I been doing this....other than being a #######
Ned
Footballguy
No I landed on my feet and didn't fall. I jogged it off after a few mins, but it progressively stiffened up during both games.
pbm107
Footballguy
Damn this is depressing, hopefully you didn’t do anything too serious to the knee.Well, my luck continues to be less than stellar. I hurt my left knee playing pickup soccer on Wednesday afternoon - went up for a header and when I landed, I felt the soft turf/mud move under me = immediate pain on the outside of the knee. I played through it at half speed, but I knew something was wrong. It has since swelled up to the size of a size 1 soccer ball. Pain isn't bad, but range of motion is 50% with the swelling. Its starting to feel a bit better this afternoon, so we shall see.
This was supposed to be week 2 of the achilles study, but obviously I had to tap out given the injury. I haven't heard back from the doc (assume he's on vacation) on how he wants to proceed. Maybe I can restart if I recover quickly.
@pbm107 - he said they only got 6 responses from that twitter post. I was the only injured runner to respond. He said thanks for forwarding it to me
I am dealing with a calf issue, I could run with it but I decided to take a few days off until I am pain free. It has been lingering for a couple weeks and I want to be pin free before I start getting serious again.
Must be in the air. Right hamstring has been really tight the last few runs. Don't wanna take a day off at this point - starting to get into the meat of the Hanson plan now. Starting to see some small gain already, so hopefully this doesn't set me back. So far I've been able to run through it, and in the past I probably would have taken a day off. But I really want to do this plan and not miss a day.
Any of you guys see heart rate spikes on your morning runs vs an evening run?
For the last 8 weeks it seems every morning run I'm seeing about 15-20 bpm increase versus my evening runs. This has happened on cold mornings (which I understand) and mild mornings both.
I'm not a big caffeine guy before a run - I'll take a couple of swigs of coke. Sometimes I won't drink any at all before a run. Same thing. I could understand this once in awhile, but it's been every single morning run.
Starting to get mildly concerned if only for the fact the race will be a morning race. And if I keep seeing these heart rates up until race day, I may need to adjust my goal.
For the last 8 weeks it seems every morning run I'm seeing about 15-20 bpm increase versus my evening runs. This has happened on cold mornings (which I understand) and mild mornings both.
I'm not a big caffeine guy before a run - I'll take a couple of swigs of coke. Sometimes I won't drink any at all before a run. Same thing. I could understand this once in awhile, but it's been every single morning run.
Starting to get mildly concerned if only for the fact the race will be a morning race. And if I keep seeing these heart rates up until race day, I may need to adjust my goal.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Could you post the data? I looked back at your runs the last few weeks and don't see a major difference.
bushdocda
Footballguy
This does not sound like not worrying about HR during training GB.
But I’m with Juxt, just looking at the HR per mile on strava I don’t see any swings in the average between morning / evening. The one you pushed on 12/18 is the only one outside of a pretty tight range for good reason.
One observation is to perhaps warm up / ease into runs a bit more - although you seem to often start on a downhill which makes it harder. First mile probably shouldn’t be fastest even on easy pace stuff. And when you get into the SOS workouts, the warm up/cool down miles are very important IMO to hit paces.
gruecd
Footballguy
I just looked again. And you are right - it's not at extreme as I thought. But this morning is a perfect example. After a week of being able to be in the 140's and low 150's for my easy run, I balloon up to a 161 HR for an easy run.
I think the problem is the running I've been doing to build endurance before starting this cycle I've been in no-mans land in regards to heart rate. I think I've majorly fooked up the build up to this training cycle.
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I see that HR elevation from today’s run. It wasn’t posted on Strava when I looked before. How was your breathing and how was your precieved effort?
I know you’re probably sick of me telling you this but I still wish you’d ignore the heart rate and focus on perceived effort instead (and breathing). You also can’t majorly #### up running unless you don’t do it enough or get hurt. Even “no man’s land” running benefits us significantly. Regardless, I think you’ve been training slower than no man’s land paces.
Breathing was normal. Perceived effort was normal. As a matter of fact, about 3 miles into the run I kept thinking: “your body wants you to go faster today”. Probably should have listened and just went.
But you are probably right. I overthink this stuff at times and need to just run. And I am starting to wonder if my max HR is higher than I thought.
When I ran that 8 miler a week ago at the 8:25 pace, it felt goooooood. Like smooth good.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
HR monitors are also far from perfect. Put your trust in the other stuff. I’m excited to see your SOS results.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Had my first outdoor run with my new Garmin today and it was AWESOME! Being able to see pretty quickly at a glance where I am, and being able to instantly confirm when my pace was slipping or when my HR was a little high helped me run the best run I have had since starting back up.
I ran a familiar path - one I've run several times over the last few months, including last Saturday - and had my best run there yet - 4:40 better than my previous best! Ran 6.6 miles in under an hour and all 6 splits were under 9 min/mile. Had my dog in tow/towing me. Part was the school kid giddiness of having a new toy to play with helping to push me along but ran it in 58:59 (58:20 actual running time, dog had to poop right before the halfway point!)
Man, that was fun! Will have another longer post asking some questions and posing some thoughts looking for advice, comments etc... Mostly has to do with some stuff I've read and trying to think what my training should look like.
Also looking forward to next Saturday when I run the last of the 5k winter series I signed up for this year. Should be fun to see what I can do.
I ran a familiar path - one I've run several times over the last few months, including last Saturday - and had my best run there yet - 4:40 better than my previous best! Ran 6.6 miles in under an hour and all 6 splits were under 9 min/mile. Had my dog in tow/towing me. Part was the school kid giddiness of having a new toy to play with helping to push me along but ran it in 58:59 (58:20 actual running time, dog had to poop right before the halfway point!)
Man, that was fun! Will have another longer post asking some questions and posing some thoughts looking for advice, comments etc... Mostly has to do with some stuff I've read and trying to think what my training should look like.
Also looking forward to next Saturday when I run the last of the 5k winter series I signed up for this year. Should be fun to see what I can do.
