Ilov80s
Footballguy
Props to EG. F Fascist BS at every levelThat's horse ####. That's going to affect their college admissions if they choose not to submit to this nanny-state nonsense. I'd tell the school to eat a bag of Dix.
Props to EG. F Fascist BS at every levelThat's horse ####. That's going to affect their college admissions if they choose not to submit to this nanny-state nonsense. I'd tell the school to eat a bag of Dix.
The big one though is that it gives a kid a reason to say no. Having this new stuff going on plus adding in drugs to a developing brain likely isn’t going to help.I know I was born too late as it is, but I feel for teenagers these days. Cyber bullying, random drug testing in schools, can't go to a party without 26 cameras streaming it live to the internet. Christ, it's gotta suck being young today.
So sad to hear.I've had several former students OD over the last few years. It's awful. Sorry to hear about the losses.Well, I do think it is well intended. It is at least worthy of dialogue. I know of 6 former graduates who have died of overdoses in the past couple years.
Again, I can only speak to the policy being considered at our school...others are certain to be different. it includes any activity that is board approved and school sponsored (ie school pays advisor) that is not connected with an academic grade.I would need to judge every extracurricular activity that triggered their entry into the random drug testing program. Each should be judged individually.
I get the legal side of the school. The school wants kids to have a pass to park on the lot, they want proof you aren't on drugs and a danger to the others parking on the lot. Sure. I just remember when students could just park in a public lot without having to turn over their urine.Again, I can only speak to the policy being considered at our school...others are certain to be different. it includes any activity that is board approved and school sponsored (ie school pays advisor) that is not connected with an academic grade.
It sucks. A few years ago, I would have rallied against such a program. But there are some serious drug issues in our society. I am still against this random drug testing, but can understand some arguments for it and and I am open to dialogue about it as part of a comprehensive program to improve the situation. Maybe something that is more of a parental choice to opt in to the program might be a good compromise...So sad to hear.I've had several former students OD over the last few years. It's awful. Sorry to hear about the losses.
Where did that come from?Im for it as long as they drug test all the staff.
I smoked weed in high school, knowing it was illegal. I made a conscious decision to sample something that grows out of the ground, ostensibly put there by the same God that, ironically, most of the people passing legislation against it devote their lives to serving. To me, it felt hypocritical and I decided to make my own choices rather than allow people to govern my behavior.The big one though is that it gives a kid a reason to say no. Having this new stuff going on plus adding in drugs to a developing brain likely isn’t going to help.
I smoked weed in high school, knowing it was illegal. I made a conscious decision to sample something that grows out of the ground, ostensibly put there by the same God that, ironically, most of the people passing legislation against it devote their lives to serving. To me, it felt hypocritical and I decided to make my own choices rather than allow people to govern my behavior.
At the same time, I won a prestigious award for mathematical theory, won a district-wide spelling bee, was captain of both the debate team and math team (both top 10 nationally ranked,) played football, ran track, swam in the Junior Olympics, was editor in chief of the school newspaper, and was a National Merit Scholar. The principal thanked me for helping elevate the profile and reputation of the school and I was high as giraffe a## when he did it.
If I had to submit to drug tests, I would have told them to shove their extra-curriculars up their collective posterior. Both I and the school would have suffered as a result.
Parents exist to discipline kids, schools are there to educate them.
I think the point was that it’s hypocritical. Especially when you consider that they are supposed to be the leaders.Where did that come from?
Do the need to test the parents too?
They should. Watch this proposal go right out the window.Where did that come from?
Do the need to test the parents too?
Yeah, what was that? Let's drug test everyone then.Where did that come from?
Do the need to test the parents too?
####thelawtheycaneatmydickWildly against this type of stuff. Seems officious and unnecessary. I think the ethos of the Tinker decision should rule here, even though the S. Ct. cut away at it later. Tinker: You do not lose your constitutional rights once you walk through the school doors.
And for every one that becomes an addict, there's a dozen others that use recreationally and aren't a detriment to anything.![]()
I hear you. My story was similar but with less awards...lol. But I can also say I saw a lot of people get seriously ####ed because of their involvement with drugs. There is no shortage of less successful stories out there.
Where is the evidence on your first point? Are they really being pressured to say yes? I’ve heard this narrative seemingly my whole life and I just don’t see it, especially at this super high level where the majority of a school can’t speak for themselves and needs to use the excuse "I can’t smoke it because I’ll be getting drug tested."The big one though is that it gives a kid a reason to say no. Having this new stuff going on plus adding in drugs to a developing brain likely isn’t going to help.
Edit: Or they are going to use more drugs that are quickly out of their system faster.