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RB Ashton Jeanty, LV (3 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Tet just had a 100 yard receiving game.
Proteus
Footballguy
I'm not talking about a flat out benching where he's not the starter, but at least according to my Redzone viewing experience, he was on the sidelines for significant pockets after one of his big pass blocking miscue/whiffs.
In a ten-teamer it's more plausible. Like I could play Kenneth Walker and Javonte Williams this week. Come to think of it, that very configuration could be available to some in larger leagues given draft prices.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Offered Javonte and Hollywood for him.
Thought maybe I could pry him away from someone frustrated, 0-2 and who just lost Aaron Jones. Rejected as expected but worth a shot.
Thought maybe I could pry him away from someone frustrated, 0-2 and who just lost Aaron Jones. Rejected as expected but worth a shot.
Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
You fleeced. Congrats!
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
What a deal. The thought of someone in my local giving up Cook for an underperforming Jeanty is absolutely laughable, you did very well there.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Too many folks, especially but certainly not limited to casual players, don't adjust their rankings quickly enough. If we had a restart to all of fantasy football this week, with a hypothetical but requisite hype of a typical pre/off-season, and including what we have witnessed through these first two weeks of the Bills and Raiders, I'd guess the influencer experts would have Cook a first rounder in most standard leagues, and Jeanty a third, at best. Proteus jumped on that before it became wider recognized reality.
That said, all of the above could change in a heartbeat, if things suddenly click for Jeanty, this week or sometime soon. Look at Jahmyr Gibbs' rookie season. Or Beckham Jr.'s. If Jeanty is a sleeping super stud, it could happen at any time, or never at all, if he isn't. What we do know is Cook seems to have been undervalued going into drafts this year, given his situation and past results. And that he sits as the RB1 overall today.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Granted we're 2 weeks in and a lot can change. Never has there been a sporting hobby in history that was more week to week than FF. However, I'd love to have seen just one "expert" rank Cook even in the top 8, never mind higher. Everywhere I looked it was Robinson, Barkley, Gibbs, McCaffrey, Henry, Jeanty, Taylor, Brown, Jacobs, Achane, Irving and maybe Kyren as the top 10-12 in roughly that order. Cook maybe in the group behind them.
As usual, amongst the dreary "experts" at places like ESPN and on YT etc, it was a mishmash of group-think, everyone ranking every player broadly the same for fear of getting something drastically wrong. I certainly got it wrong passing on Cook at the 2-3 turn. He went mid-4th in my 10-teamer and I cringe when I think about it.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I tried... but nobody really listened
LawFitz
Footballguy
It's been two weeks. I am certainly not writing him off. Cook trade seems like good business, though. For now.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Cooks >>> Jeanty this year.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Watching Jeanty get bounced back a couple yards like a rag doll in pass protection and then showing absolutely no interest in reengaging while his QB was getting closed in on was eye opening. I can’t imagine any HC who is going to have any tolerance for that.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Some of the cuts, spins and jukes Jeanty has made are out of this world. Honestly few RBs can put Derwin James on his butt like Jeanty did. The player himself is already a high-end rusher with the ceiling of RB1 in short time.
The problem for fantasy purposes is his numbers are super underwhelming. Box score scouting you would see Trent RIchardson, but for those watching the games see glimpses of elite-ness. I don't know how often we will see those 25+ point games from Jeanty this season, but talent wise there aren't many RBs I take above him.
The problem for fantasy purposes is his numbers are super underwhelming. Box score scouting you would see Trent RIchardson, but for those watching the games see glimpses of elite-ness. I don't know how often we will see those 25+ point games from Jeanty this season, but talent wise there aren't many RBs I take above him.
Chaka
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Are you referring to the sack by Mack?
The Frankman
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Round 1 rookie running backs Ashton Jeanty and Omarion Hampton are 2 of just 6 running backs with 20 or more carries and a 30% or better broken tackle rate per @sportsinfosolutions.com. The yards and touchdowns will come.
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Raiders coach Pete Carroll said he “would like” to get Ashton Jeanty around 20 carries per game.
“We want more of him,” Carroll said after Week 2. Jeanty saw 19 carries in Week 1, but was at 11 in Week 2 as the Raiders trailed and the team relied on other backs in catch up mode. Chip Kelly and Geno Smith, per the Las Vegas Review-Journal’s Vincent Bonsignore, wanted to get other players “more involved.” We don’t necessarily think Jeanty is a lock to get 20 touches a game, but it does make some sense to rest him in the second half of a blowout. His snap share isn’t worth worrying about. Jeanty remains on the RB2 line until we see the Las Vegas offensive line deliver him to fantasy value.
“We want more of him,” Carroll said after Week 2. Jeanty saw 19 carries in Week 1, but was at 11 in Week 2 as the Raiders trailed and the team relied on other backs in catch up mode. Chip Kelly and Geno Smith, per the Las Vegas Review-Journal’s Vincent Bonsignore, wanted to get other players “more involved.” We don’t necessarily think Jeanty is a lock to get 20 touches a game, but it does make some sense to rest him in the second half of a blowout. His snap share isn’t worth worrying about. Jeanty remains on the RB2 line until we see the Las Vegas offensive line deliver him to fantasy value.
Chaka
Footballguy
No. No, it doesn't make sense on any level to rest a rookie who clearly needs more experience.
LawFitz
Footballguy
It makes sense to bench a rookie RB who is a liability in pass pro, which Jeanty was last weekend. Dood needs to button that **** up with the quickness or this is going to happen again.
Chaka
Footballguy
100% but these analysts seem to think resting him makes sense. That's what raised my dander.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Probably a Rotoworld blurb. They have no clue. In their update for Skattebo they just said he's firmly taken control of the NYG backfield based on last weekend. Sure, buddies.
Chaka
Footballguy
Funny, I'm struggling whether or not to drop Tracy for Troy Franklin ATM (not in League Uno)
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I’m pro 20 carries a game.
The General
Footballguy
Amen. If they aren’t going to use him on 3rd and long, or in hurry up, and the occasional series off each half not looking good though
boilerdave
Footballguy
I have options..... WalkerIII, Stevenson and Pollard. I'm benching Jeanty this week.
The General
Footballguy
New levels of suckatude reached here. Everything looks really slow.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
There's some juice finally.
Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
So is Jeanty… bad?
Harjiran
Footballguy
No, I don't think he's bad. I might have been a little off in my previous assessment that he's not elusive and "suprisingly easy to tackle." He runs hard and once he gets some forward momentum, he's difficult to bring down. The problem is he's often met in the backfield before he is able to create any momentum. Jeanty is mainly a hard-nosed, north-south runner with some speed - if we were expecting someone with skills like Saquon or Bijan, then yes these results are very disappointing. I think Jeanty's ceiling is 2025 Javonte Williams, which is not a bad thing at all, but was that worth a top draft pick? That Vegas OL is bad and the Raiders are a bad team right now. In redraft, he might be a bust relative to draft position. In dynasty he is very much a hold but Vegas needs to build a team around him, which will probably take some time.
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togo
Footballguy
He pretty much sucks for fantasy football purposes any way.
I blame myself and fell for all the hype.
He’s not that good, his line blows, his team sucks.
And they don’t throw the ball to him.
That about sums it up.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Nah, he's not that bad. They have absolutely no run blocking. His yards before contact is a negative. That said, I did not buy that he was generational, or even that outstanding, and I wanted to trade the pick. But alas, people weren't all that interested.
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Raiders need to rework their offensive scheme and get some proper run-blocking for this dude.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Yep, it was always stupid of the Raiders to draft a RB top 10 before the support was in place around him. This is not complicated and easy to avoid in advance, but a lot of NFL organizations are run poorly.
rockaction
Footballguy
I didn't like it. They and some of the sports analysts were arguing that if the talent is so much greater than others at the position, but I'm not seeing how after you had the RBs at the combine that you had that you would think he was so far ahead of everybody. Especially at 5'8". I know people are going to tell me it's not about height, but to a degree it is. It means you're carrying less weight to be at the appropriate NFL running back BMI. You're smaller all over—or you should be. And he didn't even test. How can you put blind faith in mere sensory perception? With a guy that didn't play in a Power Five conference?
That doesn't mean he wouldn't have a great career. But there were at least four red flags that knock him down to at least the end of the first, and if you ask me, probably further than that.
Then you don't have a line to boot? Oof.
EBF
Footballguy
I had DeAngelo Williams as my comp player. I still think that type of outcome is in play. The flipside of going top 10 is that it's usually to a bad team. Jeanty is not a Peterson, Tomlinson, or Saquon level talent. He shades closer to people like Benson, Lynch, Jacobs, Thomas Jones. Those players did not just dominate regardless of context. They needed the right circumstances to unlock their potential. It's unlikely that we've seen the best of Jeanty after just three weeks.
I think he'll be fine long-term. The Raiders aren't good right now. Other than Bowers, they have no real threats anywhere.
I never would've advocated for taking Jeanty top 10-15 in redraft, but if you are a dynasty owner, I wouldn't be panicking.
I think he'll be fine long-term. The Raiders aren't good right now. Other than Bowers, they have no real threats anywhere.
I never would've advocated for taking Jeanty top 10-15 in redraft, but if you are a dynasty owner, I wouldn't be panicking.
The General
Footballguy
Giants are garbage and Skattebo looks great
Browns are trash and Judkins looks good.
Jeanty doesn’t get the ball thrown to him, he’s taken out of the game in passing downs and in hurry up, Raiders are going to be behind in almost every game.
This is a galactic bust.
Browns are trash and Judkins looks good.
Jeanty doesn’t get the ball thrown to him, he’s taken out of the game in passing downs and in hurry up, Raiders are going to be behind in almost every game.
This is a galactic bust.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Lol. Turn on the tape and you'll find out why he is struggling stat wise.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Chip Kelly is an absolute idiot. The usage for Jeanty is extremely troubling. The dude is such a weapon in all facets yet they have Dylan FREAKING Laube in on 3rd downs and important short yardage/4th down plays. It makes absolutely zero sense man.
Also the disgusting nepotism hire of Brennan Carroll has destroyed our OL. We have completely regressed as a unit in both run and pass blcking. They need to cut the Carroll Oline experiement, put Phillbin back in charge and shift JPJ back to C. They literally did those 2 things late last season and the OL looked 10x better.
This team drives me nuts man.
footballpanda
Footballguy
He can't pass block plus they can't roll him out for 100% of the plays anyway and he's basically dead by year 3 when they might actually have a team
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