Don't think it was silly at all. He still has a few things that need to break his way before he's startable. For people with short benches, I definitely don't think they needed to hold him through all the uncertainty. Personally, I cut him last week as soon as I heard he was a healthy scratch and don't regret it in the slightestInteresting. As someone who owns him in both my leagues, I'm glad it gone done sooner rather than later. It's a talented offense and Mattison is far from a world beater, so who knows. Certainly worth holding for now. No idea why the weekly FBG upgrade/downgrade email suggested cutting him. That was just silly
How’s never. Is never good for you?Outstanding!
Now the question is… How soon until he’s a safe start…?
Same. Short bench 12-team league where I have 5 other RB. Expendable.Personally, I cut him last week as soon as I heard he was a healthy scratch and don't regret it in the slightest
Or vice versa for Akers.How long before McVay calls up KOC in Minnesota and makes a trade for Mattison?
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BREAKING: The #Rams are trading RB Cam Akers to the #Vikings, per sources.
Akers, a former 2nd-round pick, had three straight 100-yard games with 3 TDs to closeout last season. A new home for the 24-year-old.
Adam Schefter
Vikings’ HC Kevin O’Connell worked with Cam Akers in Los Angeles and wanted to work with him again in Minnesota.
How’s never. Is never good for you?Outstanding!
Now the question is… How soon until he’s a safe start…?
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Honestly I think it hurts both backs in redraft (though yes, better than a healthy scratch), and in dynasty it’s just a mess.How’s never. Is never good for you?Outstanding!
Now the question is… How soon until he’s a safe start…?
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I’d prefer sooner over never!!
At the moment, I don’t plan to start CAkers this week but I’m definitely interested in seeing how things work out on the field. I also have CMC, TPollard, JWilliams and JTaylor. I drafted CAkers as my RB3 so maybe he’ll be that after all. I’m going to stick with those first three until CAkers and or JTaylor give me a reason to start them. I have no problem taking a wait and see approach here.
Ironically, this week I play the team with AMattison so CAkers may help me a little bit after all. Just taking away 5-10 touches from Mattison this week is a plus for my situation.
My guess is Minnesota
Honestly I think it hurts both backs in redraft (though yes, better than a healthy scratch), and in dynasty it’s just a mess.How’s never. Is never good for you?Outstanding!
Now the question is… How soon until he’s a safe start…?
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I’d prefer sooner over never!!
At the moment, I don’t plan to start CAkers this week but I’m definitely interested in seeing how things work out on the field. I also have CMC, TPollard, JWilliams and JTaylor. I drafted CAkers as my RB3 so maybe he’ll be that after all. I’m going to stick with those first three until CAkers and or JTaylor give me a reason to start them. I have no problem taking a wait and see approach here.
Ironically, this week I play the team with AMattison so CAkers may help me a little bit after all. Just taking away 5-10 touches from Mattison this week is a plus for my situation.
On the one hand, you have Akers who looked terrible week 1 before he was in the doghouse, and on the other you have Mattison for whom this deal seems like a vote of no confidence by the Vikings.
And on the other other hand (yes I realize that’s 3 hands) you have the Vikings OL which I’d consider a downgrade from LAR.
At least based on what I’ve seen Williams do behind that same LAR OL, and what I’ve seen of the MIN OL.
I honestly don’t see any reason for excitement, but if someone in your league does (the Mattison owner, perhaps) I’d try to deal Akers immediately.
He's still 88% owned in yahoo which I find shockingDon't think it was silly at all. He still has a few things that need to break his way before he's startable. For people with short benches, I definitely don't think they needed to hold him through all the uncertainty. Personally, I cut him last week as soon as I heard he was a healthy scratch and don't regret it in the slightestInteresting. As someone who owns him in both my leagues, I'm glad it gone done sooner rather than later. It's a talented offense and Mattison is far from a world beater, so who knows. Certainly worth holding for now. No idea why the weekly FBG upgrade/downgrade email suggested cutting him. That was just silly
He's still 88% owned in yahoo which I find shockingDon't think it was silly at all. He still has a few things that need to break his way before he's startable. For people with short benches, I definitely don't think they needed to hold him through all the uncertainty. Personally, I cut him last week as soon as I heard he was a healthy scratch and don't regret it in the slightestInteresting. As someone who owns him in both my leagues, I'm glad it gone done sooner rather than later. It's a talented offense and Mattison is far from a world beater, so who knows. Certainly worth holding for now. No idea why the weekly FBG upgrade/downgrade email suggested cutting him. That was just silly
This sounds like something someone who dropped Akers would sayHonestly I think it hurts both backs in redraft (though yes, better than a healthy scratch), and in dynasty it’s just a mess.How’s never. Is never good for you?Outstanding!
Now the question is… How soon until he’s a safe start…?
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I’d prefer sooner over never!!
At the moment, I don’t plan to start CAkers this week but I’m definitely interested in seeing how things work out on the field. I also have CMC, TPollard, JWilliams and JTaylor. I drafted CAkers as my RB3 so maybe he’ll be that after all. I’m going to stick with those first three until CAkers and or JTaylor give me a reason to start them. I have no problem taking a wait and see approach here.
Ironically, this week I play the team with AMattison so CAkers may help me a little bit after all. Just taking away 5-10 touches from Mattison this week is a plus for my situation.
On the one hand, you have Akers who looked terrible week 1 before he was in the doghouse, and on the other you have Mattison for whom this deal seems like a vote of no confidence by the Vikings.
And on the other other hand (yes I realize that’s 3 hands) you have the Vikings OL which I’d consider a downgrade from LAR.
At least based on what I’ve seen Williams do behind that same LAR OL, and what I’ve seen of the MIN OL.
I honestly don’t see any reason for excitement, but if someone in your league does (the Mattison owner, perhaps) I’d try to deal Akers immediately.
Especially when you have him in a 14 team league.Obviously every league is different. So if you're in a league with a really shallow bench (or a smaller league with plenty on the WW).....I guess I can see dropping him for the right guy.
I just dont see why one poor performance and one healthy scratch (which was clearly going to lead to a trade. Something had to give) would cause you to immediately cut a guy that you presumably drafted as a low end RB2/high end flex option. That's the part that seems silly to me. A change in value (via the trade) was almost certainly coming. Might as well hold and see rather than give up on what was probably your 6th or 7th round pick in September.
Honest question: What RBs have been traded midseason and gone from being useless to fantasy starters? I'm sure there have been some, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. Jay Ajayi? Jeff Wilson last year? I don't think either of them were at the depths that Akers was at in LA. CMC obviously doesn't count, and I can think of a few who got picked up off the WW and had a good late-season run (CJ Anderson).Obviously every league is different. So if you're in a league with a really shallow bench (or a smaller league with plenty on the WW).....I guess I can see dropping him for the right guy.
I just dont see why one poor performance and one healthy scratch (which was clearly going to lead to a trade. Something had to give) would cause you to immediately cut a guy that you presumably drafted as a low end RB2/high end flex option. That's the part that seems silly to me. A change in value (via the trade) was almost certainly coming. Might as well hold and see rather than give up on what was probably your 6th or 7th round pick in September.
What RBs have been traded midseason and gone from being useless to fantasy starters?
Indeed he was. So he knows Akers from inside the locker room.Wasn't Vikings coach the Rams offensive coordinator?
Drake to AZ comes to mind. To be fair, this is the beginning of the season so he has more time to integrate himself. I’m not too confident at this point in Cam getting it done but I certainly think he’s worth a roster spot.Honest question: What RBs have been traded midseason and gone from being useless to fantasy starters? I'm sure there have been some, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. Jay Ajayi? Jeff Wilson last year? I don't think either of them were at the depths that Akers was at in LA. CMC obviously doesn't count, and I can think of a few who got picked up off the WW and had a good late-season run (CJ Anderson).Obviously every league is different. So if you're in a league with a really shallow bench (or a smaller league with plenty on the WW).....I guess I can see dropping him for the right guy.
I just dont see why one poor performance and one healthy scratch (which was clearly going to lead to a trade. Something had to give) would cause you to immediately cut a guy that you presumably drafted as a low end RB2/high end flex option. That's the part that seems silly to me. A change in value (via the trade) was almost certainly coming. Might as well hold and see rather than give up on what was probably your 6th or 7th round pick in September.
Anyway, that was part of my calculation in dropping him. Even if he got traded, I didn't think he'd be relevant. Generally, the trajectory of NFL RBs is downward, so the prospect of Akers rejuvenating his career with another team would seem to be unlikely. I will concede that Minnesota is probably about the best situation he could have walked into at this point
What RBs have been traded midseason and gone from being useless to fantasy starters?
An excellent question where it would be good to see the data?
Did some Googling and found this article from last year. Conclusion: Mid-season trades do tend to help RBs (but not WRs) improve. He also includes a table with all of the players traded during that time period. The two that Akers managers should be pointing to are Peterson in 2017, when he was buried in Sean Payton's doghouse and then became a starter for the Cardinals, and Kenyan Drake in 2019, when he seemed to have washed out in Miami and then rejuvenated his career (also with the Cardinals). So maybe the key is to get traded to Arizona?What RBs have been traded midseason and gone from being useless to fantasy starters?
An excellent question where it would be good to see the data?
Honest question: What RBs have been traded midseason and gone from being useless to fantasy starters? I'm sure there have been some, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. Jay Ajayi? Jeff Wilson last year? I don't think either of them were at the depths that Akers was at in LA. CMC obviously doesn't count, and I can think of a few who got picked up off the WW and had a good late-season run (CJ Anderson).Obviously every league is different. So if you're in a league with a really shallow bench (or a smaller league with plenty on the WW).....I guess I can see dropping him for the right guy.
I just dont see why one poor performance and one healthy scratch (which was clearly going to lead to a trade. Something had to give) would cause you to immediately cut a guy that you presumably drafted as a low end RB2/high end flex option. That's the part that seems silly to me. A change in value (via the trade) was almost certainly coming. Might as well hold and see rather than give up on what was probably your 6th or 7th round pick in September.
Anyway, that was part of my calculation in dropping him. Even if he got traded, I didn't think he'd be relevant. Generally, the trajectory of NFL RBs is downward, so the prospect of Akers rejuvenating his career with another team would seem to be unlikely. I will concede that Minnesota is probably about the best situation he could have walked into at this point
I dropped him in redraft knowing he’d get traded. Not one scintilla of ragret.This sounds like something someone who dropped Akers would say![]()
Redraft?I dropped him knowing he’d get traded. Not one scintilla of ragret.This sounds like something someone who dropped Akers would say![]()
I drafted him as my RB4 in a 12-team redraft PPR. He was a later pick & have 4 guys just like him (went WR x4 then TE & QB)Obviously every league is different. So if you're in a league with a really shallow bench (or a smaller league with plenty on the WW).....I guess I can see dropping him for the right guy.
I just dont see why one poor performance and one healthy scratch (which was clearly going to lead to a trade. Something had to give) would cause you to immediately cut a guy that you presumably drafted as a low end RB2/high end flex option. That's the part that seems silly to me. A change in value (via the trade) was almost certainly coming. Might as well hold and see rather than give up on what was probably your 6th or 7th round pick in September.
Yes of course. Dynasty I’d try to deal him.Redraft?I dropped him knowing he’d get traded. Not one scintilla of ragret.This sounds like something someone who dropped Akers would say![]()
Like McVeys wife?Take it for what it’s worth, but I heard Akers made comments wanting to smash Sean McVay’s wife and that’s why he was in the dog house. Again, take it for what’s it worth. No sources do whatever you want with it. Maybe someone knows more to this.
Huh. Small world.Take it for what it’s worth, but I heard Akers made comments wanting to smash Sean McVay’s wife and that’s why he was in the dog house. Again, take it for what’s it worth. No sources do whatever you want with it. Maybe someone knows more to this.
Take it for what it’s worth, but I heard Akers made comments wanting to smash Sean McVay’s wife and that’s why he was in the dog house. Again, take it for what’s it worth. No sources do whatever you want with it. Maybe someone knows more to this.
Is this a Peyton Hillis / Josh McDaniels situation?Like McVeys wife?Take it for what it’s worth, but I heard Akers made comments wanting to smash Sean McVay’s wife and that’s why he was in the dog house. Again, take it for what’s it worth. No sources do whatever you want with it. Maybe someone knows more to this.
No idea.Is this a Peyton Hillis / Josh McDaniels situation?Like McVeys wife?Take it for what it’s worth, but I heard Akers made comments wanting to smash Sean McVay’s wife and that’s why he was in the dog house. Again, take it for what’s it worth. No sources do whatever you want with it. Maybe someone knows more to this.
Has anyone considered the Vikings? Mattison looks bad and Chandler too.....and a team looking for a post season run.
IMHO, he will not only be hyper-motivated to perform, but will get every chance to shine.
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Let’s just send all the roster clog RBs to the Vikings so we can have them all in one place - Cam Akers and Alexander Mattison already there, do Samaje Perine and AJ Dillon next
IMHO, he will not only be hyper-motivated to perform, but will get every chance to shine.
I think this is about right.
FYI… No 0-3 team has ever made it to the Super Bowl. And 0-2 teams are drawing thin to make it to the playoffs.
think around 10% of 0-2 teams make the playoffs
think around 10% of 0-2 teams make the playoffs
Per ChatGPT… Between the 1990 and 2018 seasons, there were 91 teams that started 0-2. Of those 91 teams, 12 made the playoffs, which means approximately 13.2% of teams that started 0-2 during this span managed to reach the postseason.
The 0-2 isn’t quite as daunting as it once was because teams now play 17 games and more importantly they added an extra wild card spot. That number will eventually rise considerablythink around 10% of 0-2 teams make the playoffs
Per ChatGPT… Between the 1990 and 2018 seasons, there were 91 teams that started 0-2. Of those 91 teams, 12 made the playoffs, which means approximately 13.2% of teams that started 0-2 during this span managed to reach the postseason.