RB Chase Brown, CIN (4 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

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People are saying sell high on Chase Brown due to a tough next 3 games + bye week. Would you look to move him in a package for Deebo or Metcalf, or is Chase a true RB1 in peoples eyes and stand pat?

he’s good enough for me to reject offers in both my 16 team dynasty leagues because I need the depth to compete more than I need the picks.

That said if someone offered me a 1st or better I’d probably have to realize the profit and accept. I paid a 3rd + Brissett in one league, and dealt QJ for him in another.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

What I see is that Herbert will take the clock killer role once he is up to speed. He will put a dent in Brown's upside for sure.

Meh. I see him as a breather back.

Bengals are very high on Brown, and IMO he’s going to resemble a bellcow.

Maybe Brown loses some short yardage looks. As others have said, I’m ok with that if it keeps him healthy. Bengals like to throw at the goal line plenty, so it doesn’t hurt him that much.

 

[Gatorade]

In redraft I traded away Chase for Bowers and Nico the day before it came out Moss was injured. That’s still a no brainer trade I should’ve made right? I have Breece, Achane and Dobbins already. It just sucks to see after the fact lol.

in dynasty, someone just offered me a late 2nd and 5th for Chase. then a late 2nd and 4th before revoking both. I just ignored both. anything less than a late 1st is a non starter to me.

I countered with his 2025 1st (late on 16 team dynasty) and he accepted

 

[JohnnyU]

In redraft I traded away Chase for Bowers and Nico the day before it came out Moss was injured. That’s still a no brainer trade I should’ve made right? I have Breece, Achane and Dobbins already. It just sucks to see after the fact lol.

in dynasty, someone just offered me a late 2nd and 5th for Chase. then a late 2nd and 4th before revoking both. I just ignored both. anything less than a late 1st is a non starter to me.

I countered with his 2025 1st (late on 16 team dynasty) and he accepted

I would have kept Brown over a late 1st in a 16 team league.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In redraft I traded away Chase for Bowers and Nico the day before it came out Moss was injured. That’s still a no brainer trade I should’ve made right? I have Breece, Achane and Dobbins already. It just sucks to see after the fact lol.

in dynasty, someone just offered me a late 2nd and 5th for Chase. then a late 2nd and 4th before revoking both. I just ignored both. anything less than a late 1st is a non starter to me.

I countered with his 2025 1st (late on 16 team dynasty) and he accepted

That’s about my sell point. I make a very good profit at that price.

In one league the RB in my lineup is worth more.

 

[SoBeDad]

Khalil Herbert had some good metrics in 2022 and 2023. A PFF grade of 77.9 in 2023. I think a running QB like Fields can inflate a RB's numbers. Still, why no talk about Herbert? Chase has been ok, not great, more volume dependent.

>>Herbert missed time in the middle of the season, but a strong start and finish helped propel him to a top-15 PFF grade among running backs in 2023. He tied for ninth at the position with a 4.6 yards per carry average, and 3.0 of that average came after contact.<<

Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group

Miami Dolphins running back De'Von Achane led the position in PFF grade in 2023, followed closely by the San Francisco 49ers' Christian McCaffrey.

www.pff.com

 

[rschroeder1]

Khalil Herbert had some good metrics in 2022 and 2023. A PFF grade of 77.9 in 2023. I think a running QB like Fields can inflate a RB's numbers. Still, why no talk about Herbert? Chase has been ok, not great, more volume dependent.

>>Herbert missed time in the middle of the season, but a strong start and finish helped propel him to a top-15 PFF grade among running backs in 2023. He tied for ninth at the position with a 4.6 yards per carry average, and 3.0 of that average came after contact.<<

Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group

Miami Dolphins running back De'Von Achane led the position in PFF grade in 2023, followed closely by the San Francisco 49ers' Christian McCaffrey.

www.pff.com

From the perspective as a Bears fan, it should be a red flag that Herbert was 4th on the depth chart with Chicago and had no defined role in the offense.

The biggest knock on Brown coming into the season was pass protection. While I have not watched enough/seen stats to evaluate how he's done there, Herbert is well-established as a terrible pass protector, so there's no reason to think he usurps Brown in that role.

Herbert is a free agent after this season, while Brown still has two more cost-controlled rookie contract years. The Bengals would be well-served to see what they have in Brown, so that should work in his favor in theory.

 

[travdogg]

Khalil Herbert had some good metrics in 2022 and 2023. A PFF grade of 77.9 in 2023. I think a running QB like Fields can inflate a RB's numbers. Still, why no talk about Herbert? Chase has been ok, not great, more volume dependent.

>>Herbert missed time in the middle of the season, but a strong start and finish helped propel him to a top-15 PFF grade among running backs in 2023. He tied for ninth at the position with a 4.6 yards per carry average, and 3.0 of that average came after contact.<<

Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group

Miami Dolphins running back De'Von Achane led the position in PFF grade in 2023, followed closely by the San Francisco 49ers' Christian McCaffrey.

www.pff.com

From the perspective as a Bears fan, it should be a red flag that Herbert was 4th on the depth chart with Chicago and had no defined role in the offense.

The biggest knock on Brown coming into the season was pass protection. While I have not watched enough/seen stats to evaluate how he's done there, Herbert is well-established as a terrible pass protector, so there's no reason to think he usurps Brown in that role.

Herbert is a free agent after this season, while Brown still has two more cost-controlled rookie contract years. The Bengals would be well-served to see what they have in Brown, so that should work in his favor in theory.

Could also just mean the Bears coaching staff are idiots. That's probably the most likely answer.

I don't think anyone should be thinking Herbert takes the starting job. However, the idea that Herbert means nothing is crazy to me. Brown will not see 30+ touches in a game again this season. Herbert is a talent upgrade from Moss, especially as a runner, he'll get work.

 

[pinkstapler]

Khalil Herbert had some good metrics in 2022 and 2023. A PFF grade of 77.9 in 2023. I think a running QB like Fields can inflate a RB's numbers. Still, why no talk about Herbert? Chase has been ok, not great, more volume dependent.

>>Herbert missed time in the middle of the season, but a strong start and finish helped propel him to a top-15 PFF grade among running backs in 2023. He tied for ninth at the position with a 4.6 yards per carry average, and 3.0 of that average came after contact.<<

Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group

Miami Dolphins running back De'Von Achane led the position in PFF grade in 2023, followed closely by the San Francisco 49ers' Christian McCaffrey.

www.pff.com

From the perspective as a Bears fan, it should be a red flag that Herbert was 4th on the depth chart with Chicago and had no defined role in the offense.

The biggest knock on Brown coming into the season was pass protection. While I have not watched enough/seen stats to evaluate how he's done there, Herbert is well-established as a terrible pass protector, so there's no reason to think he usurps Brown in that role.

Herbert is a free agent after this season, while Brown still has two more cost-controlled rookie contract years. The Bengals would be well-served to see what they have in Brown, so that should work in his favor in theory.

A red flag for Herbert? Or a red flag for Eberflus and Waldron? I mean I agree (as do the numbers) on your point about Herbert not being good as pass pro; but that entire team is basically revolting against it's HC and OC as much as some of the media tries to make it a Caleb issue. By my eyes, DJ Moore has quit on the team already, and I don't think he's the only one. Their play calling and game planning has been atrocious. To watch what that staff put together in 2 weeks prep coming off the bye against Washington two weeks ago should have already lost one, if not both, of those coaches their jobs.

All that to say, I personally don't put even 1% of concern/care into anything Herbert did or did not do on that Bears team this year. I don't think he's coming in to steal the lions share away from Chase Brown either. But seems erroneous to try and glean anything from his usage/depth chart status so far on a team that's been IMO one of the biggest disappointments so far this season. At least I knew the Panthers were hopeless before week 1. I take much more from his three word tweet upon finding out he was traded to the Bengals: "Thank you God" lol.

 

[pinkstapler]

Khalil Herbert had some good metrics in 2022 and 2023. A PFF grade of 77.9 in 2023. I think a running QB like Fields can inflate a RB's numbers. Still, why no talk about Herbert? Chase has been ok, not great, more volume dependent.

>>Herbert missed time in the middle of the season, but a strong start and finish helped propel him to a top-15 PFF grade among running backs in 2023. He tied for ninth at the position with a 4.6 yards per carry average, and 3.0 of that average came after contact.<<

Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group

Miami Dolphins running back De'Von Achane led the position in PFF grade in 2023, followed closely by the San Francisco 49ers' Christian McCaffrey.

www.pff.com

From the perspective as a Bears fan, it should be a red flag that Herbert was 4th on the depth chart with Chicago and had no defined role in the offense.

The biggest knock on Brown coming into the season was pass protection. While I have not watched enough/seen stats to evaluate how he's done there, Herbert is well-established as a terrible pass protector, so there's no reason to think he usurps Brown in that role.

Herbert is a free agent after this season, while Brown still has two more cost-controlled rookie contract years. The Bengals would be well-served to see what they have in Brown, so that should work in his favor in theory.

Could also just mean the Bears coaching staff are idiots. That's probably the most likely answer.

I don't think anyone should be thinking Herbert takes the starting job. However, the idea that Herbert means nothing is crazy to me. Brown will not see 30+ touches in a game again this season. Herbert is a talent upgrade from Moss, especially as a runner, he'll get work.

Beat me to it lol

 

[menobrown]

Could also just mean the Bears coaching staff are idiots. That's probably the most likely answer.

Not to me it's not.

Sure seems like the Chiefs could have used some RB help the last few years. Nagy on staff with familiarity with Herbert. Poles came from the Chiefs. Would not have cost much if Nagy had indicated he thought he was good so I guess Nagy is an idiot as well because Eberflus gave Herbert a lot more run in 2022 then Nagy ever did.

Poles has been trying to replace him since he got there. I know the RB market is soft but the whole league has known he's available and they got a 7th and likely would have got nothing if Moss had got injured a week later.

So I can either believe they are all idiots or there is something in his play they don't like and to me most likely answer is the later.

 

[VikingFrog]

Anyone worried about him tomorrow night against a pretty stingy run defense?

 

[BlackCrowes]

Anyone worried about him tomorrow night against a pretty stingy run defense?

going with Montgomery at the moment

 

[menobrown]

Anyone worried about him tomorrow night against a pretty stingy run defense?

Matchup is not ideal, short week after a massive workload and getting a little beat up is actually more concerning to me. But can't really see sitting him if that's what you are asking, not unless you got top 10-15 type options and can't find a spot for him.

The volume, passing down work and likely bulk of goal line work in theory provides a safe floor.

Herbert's role will start to grow in future weeks, I don't think it's going to look like the role Moss had but it's going to pick up from what it will look like joining the team two days before they play. So despite the negatives I think you got to take advantage of him having such a large share of the workload while you can. Not saying that to insinuate he won't be a strong option when Herbert is more acclimated, but it's going to ding him for sure.

 

[rschroeder1]

Khalil Herbert had some good metrics in 2022 and 2023. A PFF grade of 77.9 in 2023. I think a running QB like Fields can inflate a RB's numbers. Still, why no talk about Herbert? Chase has been ok, not great, more volume dependent.

>>Herbert missed time in the middle of the season, but a strong start and finish helped propel him to a top-15 PFF grade among running backs in 2023. He tied for ninth at the position with a 4.6 yards per carry average, and 3.0 of that average came after contact.<<

Highest-graded running backs from the 2023 NFL season: Rookie De'Von Achane paces the group

Miami Dolphins running back De'Von Achane led the position in PFF grade in 2023, followed closely by the San Francisco 49ers' Christian McCaffrey.

www.pff.com

From the perspective as a Bears fan, it should be a red flag that Herbert was 4th on the depth chart with Chicago and had no defined role in the offense.

The biggest knock on Brown coming into the season was pass protection. While I have not watched enough/seen stats to evaluate how he's done there, Herbert is well-established as a terrible pass protector, so there's no reason to think he usurps Brown in that role.

Herbert is a free agent after this season, while Brown still has two more cost-controlled rookie contract years. The Bengals would be well-served to see what they have in Brown, so that should work in his favor in theory.

A red flag for Herbert? Or a red flag for Eberflus and Waldron? I mean I agree (as do the numbers) on your point about Herbert not being good as pass pro; but that entire team is basically revolting against it's HC and OC as much as some of the media tries to make it a Caleb issue. By my eyes, DJ Moore has quit on the team already, and I don't think he's the only one. Their play calling and game planning has been atrocious. To watch what that staff put together in 2 weeks prep coming off the bye against Washington two weeks ago should have already lost one, if not both, of those coaches their jobs.

All that to say, I personally don't put even 1% of concern/care into anything Herbert did or did not do on that Bears team this year. I don't think he's coming in to steal the lions share away from Chase Brown either. But seems erroneous to try and glean anything from his usage/depth chart status so far on a team that's been IMO one of the biggest disappointments so far this season. At least I knew the Panthers were hopeless before week 1. I take much more from his three word tweet upon finding out he was traded to the Bengals: "Thank you God" lol.

I wanted Eberflus fired after his first season, for what it's worth. Waldron almost makes me pine for Luke Getsy, who at least had a plan on offensive, even if it was diabolical.

For me, it's more about factoring in how NFL decision-makers view real NFL players, and acknowledging I am an idiot on a couch. One NFL team had Herbert as 4th on its depth chart; that team and another franchise valued Herbert as a 7th round pick. It's entirely possible he becomes productive on the Bengals, just like any other RB that comes out of nowhere to be fantasy relevant toward the end of the season. As of today, I give weight to how NFL decision-makers have valued him.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I've been getting a few offers for Chase Brown. One guy has offered me Puka or Pickens for him. My current situation at RB/WR:

• JT, Achane, Brown, Allgeier, B Allen, Ray Davis
• AJB, Adams, Reed, Diontae Johnson

What do you think in a 0.5 PPR? He also has Wilson who I could get but I don't want to pair two Jet WRs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I don't think anyone should be thinking Herbert takes the starting job. However, the idea that Herbert means nothing is crazy to me. Brown will not see 30+ touches in a game again this season. Herbert is a talent upgrade from Moss, especially as a runner, he'll get work.

No, but he'll likely see more than he did when he was in a split with Moss.

You seem to be wishcasting here. Herbert is not a threat to Brown's RB1 status on that team, where with Moss for the early part of the season it was 1A/1B. While I'm not high on Moss, I believe Moss > Herbert, and it's worth mentioning that Chase Brown was dominating quality touches over Moss the last few weeks before Moss' injury.

It's a bit of a strawman to say Brown won't get 30+ touches again. No one is expecting him to. I've been driving the Chase Brown bandwagon for some time now, and even I don't expect him to have 25 touches.

But without Moss, Brown's usage will remain higher than when Moss was playing. Herbert is no threat to Brown seeing 20+ touches, which would still make Brown a FF RB1-2. And if Herbert can't pass protect as some have suggested, then Herbert won't see much work on passing downs either. So what you have is a breather back, who might get carries in short yardage - which IMO won't be remotely start-able in FF, and won't impact Brown's now higher value in the post-Moss era.

I don't think that's at all an unreasonable position, much less "crazy".

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Anyone worried about him tomorrow night against a pretty stingy run defense?

I have him in a 16-team league & a 12-team league, and I'm starting him in both. BYEs, injuries - it's damn near impossible to bench him because I lack better options. That said, his volume & work in the receiving game will keep him in the RB2 FF ranks, IMO. Even against a stingy run defense.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I've been getting a few offers for Chase Brown. One guy has offered me Puka or Pickens for him. My current situation at RB/WR:

• JT, Achane, Brown, Allgeier, B Allen, Ray Davis
• AJB, Adams, Reed, Diontae Johnson

What do you think in a 0.5 PPR? He also has Wilson who I could get but I don't want to pair two Jet WRs.

I'd be tempted to pull the trigger for Puka, bad knee and all. But I prefer building dynasty around WRs and stacking up cheap RBs hoping one hits.

In my leagues with Brown, that's exactly how I did it and it's paying off well. But if I were offered Puka I'd have a tough time rejecting it simply based on the profit I'd realize. That said, with JT/Achane as your top 2 and not a ton behind them, it becomes a more challenging decision.

I'd be a bit concerned about being too thin at RB. That said, if that comes to pass you can then flip a Dionte for Adams for a RB before your league's deadline. Dionte is 28, Adams 31 - probably time to move them regardless.

 

[rockaction]

One NFL team had Herbert as 4th on its depth chart

That team admitted that being 4th on the depth chart was because of special teams play. Johnson and Homer both played special teams and Herbert did not.

But your point is taken. That said, a seventh while even special running backs doing superhuman things like Saquon were let go by their team rather than pay the premium for them isn’t that bad. Well . . . a seventh isn’t anything, really. I think Chicago just realized they weren’t doing right by the player and were in a position where they weren’t in a position of leverage with other clubs. Herbert was drafted in the fifth or sixth and then performed really well—it’s hard to believe that his stock dropped in that time.

Maybe it has.

I do not expect him to take over for Brown other than in the case of injury. I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks, but less than travdogg is thinking. He certainly won’t be starting like Moss was, especially since his pass pro and catching are average at best. According to Chicago, that is—now . . . who knows if Chicago really knows that or if they are just incompetent. Look at Dennis Allen and Kendre Miller. Sometimes coaches or teams just decide on a player and they’re in the doghouse for some reason. Then a change of scenery happens and they’re different players.

We will see. I doubt strongly that he takes over anything from Brown. He’ll probably play the Moss role that Moss played at the end of his 1B/2A role. Can’t have guys getting thirty touches a game if you think you’re sniffing the playoffs. You just can’t do that. So he’ll see some volume.

 

[VikingFrog]

I've been getting a few offers for Chase Brown. One guy has offered me Puka or Pickens for him. My current situation at RB/WR:

• JT, Achane, Brown, Allgeier, B Allen, Ray Davis
• AJB, Adams, Reed, Diontae Johnson

What do you think in a 0.5 PPR? He also has Wilson who I could get but I don't want to pair two Jet WRs.

I'd be tempted to pull the trigger for Puka, bad knee and all. But I prefer building dynasty around WRs and stacking up cheap RBs hoping one hits.

In my leagues with Brown, that's exactly how I did it and it's paying off well. But if I were offered Puka I'd have a tough time rejecting it simply based on the profit I'd realize. That said, with JT/Achane as your top 2 and not a ton behind them, it becomes a more challenging decision.

I'd be a bit concerned about being too thin at RB. That said, if that comes to pass you can then flip a Dionte for Adams for a RB before your league's deadline. Dionte is 28, Adams 31 - probably time to move them regardless.

Sounds like

Anyone worried about him tomorrow night against a pretty stingy run defense?

I have him in a 16-team league & a 12-team league, and I'm starting him in both. BYEs, injuries - it's damn near impossible to bench him because I lack better options. That said, his volume & work in the receiving game will keep him in the RB2 FF ranks, IMO. Even against a stingy run defense.

Sounds like Herbert may get some touches tonight. My only fear here is him possibly getting the goal line plunges.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I've been getting a few offers for Chase Brown. One guy has offered me Puka or Pickens for him. My current situation at RB/WR:

• JT, Achane, Brown, Allgeier, B Allen, Ray Davis
• AJB, Adams, Reed, Diontae Johnson

What do you think in a 0.5 PPR? He also has Wilson who I could get but I don't want to pair two Jet WRs.

I'd be tempted to pull the trigger for Puka, bad knee and all. But I prefer building dynasty around WRs and stacking up cheap RBs hoping one hits.

In my leagues with Brown, that's exactly how I did it and it's paying off well. But if I were offered Puka I'd have a tough time rejecting it simply based on the profit I'd realize. That said, with JT/Achane as your top 2 and not a ton behind them, it becomes a more challenging decision.

I'd be a bit concerned about being too thin at RB. That said, if that comes to pass you can then flip a Dionte for Adams for a RB before your league's deadline. Dionte is 28, Adams 31 - probably time to move them regardless.

Sounds like

Anyone worried about him tomorrow night against a pretty stingy run defense?

I have him in a 16-team league & a 12-team league, and I'm starting him in both. BYEs, injuries - it's damn near impossible to bench him because I lack better options. That said, his volume & work in the receiving game will keep him in the RB2 FF ranks, IMO. Even against a stingy run defense.

Sounds like Herbert may get some touches tonight. My only fear here is him possibly getting the goal line plunges.

FWIW they seem to like throwing to Brown at the stripe, too. Chase as well. I've followed most Bengals games - there are a number of 1st & goal psses.

I'm not too concerned. I'm skeptical they trust Herbert with high leverage touches in his 1st game with the team.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

 

[rockaction]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

Oh. Maybe. Yeah. I’d say if Herbert is effective that he’ll probably get a few more than that. Not much more, nor enough to start, but he won’t be relegated to short yardage (I think that is what you said and plz correct me if wrong). He’s going to get a series or three a game, I’d imagine.

Yeah, you said a “breather back” who might get short yardage carries. I disagree with that. He’ll get a whole series or two (or three) once he’s had a chance to see the playbook. I think.

If Brown plays lights out, then all bets are off for Herbert’s playing time. If Herbert is lights out then the same for Brown’s locked-in FF status as at least an RB2.

I like Brown. I’ve tried to get him, but he’s too expensive. He runs fast and hard. Good back.

 

[Hankmoody]

Eberflus gave Herbert a lot more run in 2022 then Nagy ever did.

Makes no sense to attribute this to a defensive HC. Eberflus wasn't the one giving Herbert the work, the play caller was Getsy. And Eberflus is long-proven to be an idiot.

 

[menobrown]

Eberflus gave Herbert a lot more run in 2022 then Nagy ever did.

Makes no sense to attribute this to a defensive HC. Eberflus wasn't the one giving Herbert the work, the play caller was Getsy. And Eberflus is long-proven to be an idiot.

You are sorely mistaken if you think head coaches don't dictate who plays.

 

[travdogg]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

I'll go as high as 7-9 for Herbert and 18-20 for Brown. Assuming the Bengals don't get blown out that is.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah, you said a “breather back” who might get short yardage carries. I disagree with that. He’ll get a whole series or two (or three) once he’s had a chance to see the playbook. I think.

I was talking about tonight's game with that, and I agree that moving forward it could be a series here or there.

I'm skeptical he will have a big workload.

 

[Skolpnw]

I've been getting a few offers for Chase Brown. One guy has offered me Puka or Pickens for him. My current situation at RB/WR:

• JT, Achane, Brown, Allgeier, B Allen, Ray Davis
• AJB, Adams, Reed, Diontae Johnson

What do you think in a 0.5 PPR? He also has Wilson who I could get but I don't want to pair two Jet WRs.

I traded C.Brown for Pickens in .5 PRR redraft, but I had Henry, JT, Achane, Ekeler, Corum. My other WRs are McLaurin, DK, BTJ and Jamo. I'm worried about Brown's schedule + love Pickens' schedule/think he's grossly undervalued right now. If Garrett Wilson was available I'd have made that trade, too. I'm scared of Puka's injury but if he was guaranteed to stay healthy I'd do that too. Please note I make bad decisions and am a terrible judge of character.

Next day edit: I am not a clever man.

 

[Scooby1974]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

Oh. Maybe. Yeah. I’d say if Herbert is effective that he’ll probably get a few more than that. Not much more, nor enough to start, but he won’t be relegated to short yardage (I think that is what you said and plz correct me if wrong). He’s going to get a series or three a game, I’d imagine.

Yeah, you said a “breather back” who might get short yardage carries. I disagree with that. He’ll get a whole series or two (or three) once he’s had a chance to see the playbook. I think.

If Brown plays lights out, then all bets are off for Herbert’s playing time. If Herbert is lights out then the same for Brown’s locked-in FF status as at least an RB2.

I like Brown. I’ve tried to get him, but he’s too expensive. He runs fast and hard. Good back.

I've been waiting on that Herbert being "lights out" stuff. He showed glimpses...but I don't think he is less of a threat than Moss.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

I’m playing him over Dobbins. Might be a mistake but I like his chances in the passing game and Tennessee is a stout run D. I’m an underdog so that factors in too. Higher ceiling in a potential shootout.

 

[rockaction]

I've been waiting on that Herbert being "lights out" stuff. He showed glimpses...but I don't think he is less of a threat than Moss.

I’m unsure. Your tone doesn’t necessarily match your conclusion. You sound skeptical that Herbert will be lights out, but you don’t think he is less of a threat than Moss? That, by its very nature, makes him a greater or equal threat than Moss was to Brown, and will therefore likely cut into Brown’s playing time by a greater or equal amount than Moss was at the end of his run.

Are you saying Herbert won’t be lights out but will be better than Moss?

Just trying to clarify what you’re saying before I answer. I think I get it, but I’m not sure.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

Oh. Maybe. Yeah. I’d say if Herbert is effective that he’ll probably get a few more than that. Not much more, nor enough to start, but he won’t be relegated to short yardage (I think that is what you said and plz correct me if wrong). He’s going to get a series or three a game, I’d imagine.

Yeah, you said a “breather back” who might get short yardage carries. I disagree with that. He’ll get a whole series or two (or three) once he’s had a chance to see the playbook. I think.

If Brown plays lights out, then all bets are off for Herbert’s playing time. If Herbert is lights out then the same for Brown’s locked-in FF status as at least an RB2.

I like Brown. I’ve tried to get him, but he’s too expensive. He runs fast and hard. Good back.

I've been waiting on that Herbert being "lights out" stuff. He showed glimpses...but I don't think he is less of a threat than Moss.

Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend anyone waiting for Herbert to be “light’s out”. At best it’s the way you’d describe a dim bulb that’s been flickering for years and finally goes dark, if we’re making analogies over here.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Are you saying Herbert won’t be lights out but will be better than Moss?

That’s how I read it.

Put me down as “will be worse than Moss”.

 

[ratbast]

1st drive TD! I love this guy!

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Wehoo!

 

[ShamrockPride]

This guy is the next big thing at RB.

 

[Ray_T]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

Oh. Maybe. Yeah. I’d say if Herbert is effective that he’ll probably get a few more than that. Not much more, nor enough to start, but he won’t be relegated to short yardage (I think that is what you said and plz correct me if wrong). He’s going to get a series or three a game, I’d imagine.

Yeah, you said a “breather back” who might get short yardage carries. I disagree with that. He’ll get a whole series or two (or three) once he’s had a chance to see the playbook. I think.

If Brown plays lights out, then all bets are off for Herbert’s playing time. If Herbert is lights out then the same for Brown’s locked-in FF status as at least an RB2.

I like Brown. I’ve tried to get him, but he’s too expensive. He runs fast and hard. Good back.

I've been waiting on that Herbert being "lights out" stuff. He showed glimpses...but I don't think he is less of a threat than Moss.

Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend anyone waiting for Herbert to be “light’s out”. At best it’s the way you’d describe a dim bulb that’s been flickering for years and finally goes dark, if we’re making analogies over here.

hes a guy who, based on potential, should be a better player than he has been so far.

He has landed in a place that has allowed him an opportunity to start. it does not matter how he got to this point. hes here.

hopefully he is up to the task. I figure getting the opportunity is half the battle. hes got it. the rest is up to him

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think he’ll get a little more run than HSG thinks,

I'm thinking 3-5 touches. Not sure I specifically articulated that. You're taking the over?

Oh. Maybe. Yeah. I’d say if Herbert is effective that he’ll probably get a few more than that. Not much more, nor enough to start, but he won’t be relegated to short yardage (I think that is what you said and plz correct me if wrong). He’s going to get a series or three a game, I’d imagine.

Yeah, you said a “breather back” who might get short yardage carries. I disagree with that. He’ll get a whole series or two (or three) once he’s had a chance to see the playbook. I think.

If Brown plays lights out, then all bets are off for Herbert’s playing time. If Herbert is lights out then the same for Brown’s locked-in FF status as at least an RB2.

I like Brown. I’ve tried to get him, but he’s too expensive. He runs fast and hard. Good back.

I've been waiting on that Herbert being "lights out" stuff. He showed glimpses...but I don't think he is less of a threat than Moss.

Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend anyone waiting for Herbert to be “light’s out”. At best it’s the way you’d describe a dim bulb that’s been flickering for years and finally goes dark, if we’re making analogies over here.

hes a guy who, based on potential, should be a better player than he has been so far.

He has landed in a place that has allowed him an opportunity to start. it does not matter how he got to this point. hes here.

hopefully he is up to the task. I figure getting the opportunity is half the battle. hes got it. the rest is up to him

I disagree that Herbert has the opportunity to start.

Chase would have to get hurt. Knock on wood, he’s their starting RB.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

good at the stripe, plenty of passing usage and pass protects well into the bargain. Arrow pointing up to say the least.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

good at the stripe, plenty of passing usage and pass protects well into the bargain. Arrow pointing up to say the least.

Yeah, blocking, catching & churning out 7 yard gains against BAL. He’s gettin it done.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

I mean it's early of course, but if Herbert can't even take a hand off without immediately dropping the ball and killing a drive, he's not going to be much of a threat for touches to Brown.

 

[rockaction]

Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend anyone waiting for Herbert to be “light’s out”. At best it’s the way you’d describe a dim bulb that’s been flickering for years and finally goes dark, if we’re making analogies over here.

Despite the analogy and his recent fumble, the guy has averaged over 4.8 YPC for his career. That’s really good.

He’s not going to be stopping Brown from getting touches, but let’s not **** on the guy’s career. It’s been very good.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He’s not going to be stopping Brown from getting touches, but let’s not **** on the guy’s career. It’s been very good.

Oh I’m drinking that haterade. He represents a threat to two of my dynasty teams. Imma be rooting HARD against him.

 

[rockaction]

Imma be rooting HARD against him.

I’m hoping he becomes a valuable member of the Cincinnati offense. Heh.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Imma be rooting HARD against him.

I’m hoping he becomes a valuable member of the Cincinnati offense. Heh.

Also my analogy was supposed to be FF, not real life football.

He’s a better running back than he’s been a FF back. I think that’s a fair statement. Not ****ting on the dude. I just think Brown is electric. They’re leaning on him tonight.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Wish I had been more of a believer earlier

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Brown literally broke his ankles?

 

[dickey moe]

Came close to having to drop this guy to free up roster spots due to WR injuries earlier this season. Glad I didn't.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Pretty great night for the guy and honestly it could/should have been even bigger. It's clear he is the whole package and fully trusted on 3rd down in pass pro.

He is a league winner.