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RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (4 Viewers)
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I confess I didn't read all 59 pages of this thread, so if my take has already been mentioned, sorry.
While the fact McCaffrey is an oddity today that being a speedy, elusive white RB he isn't the only/first one.
Back in the day TCU had Cy Leland, he was world record sprinter (9.5yards). Glen Davis the Mr.Outside (9.6 sprinter)in that famed Army's Mr.Outside and Mr.Inside (Doc Blanchard, both won the Heisman) backfield. I think Davis had a short nothing career as a Detroit Lion.
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett (24 foot long jumper at USC) was fast, elusive, with serious quicks, played for the Rams, had a solid pro career. The great Hugh "The King' McElhenny (Cali State hurdles champ) was as elusive as elusive gets, a fantastic runner. A Hall of Famer.(Niner)
The Chargers had darter Dickie Post, while not a burner he had amazing qucks and agility. Would be in the slot today.
Craig James had good sped and some wiggle, he is the last speedy white RB to have a 1000 yard rushing season in the NFL, as a Pat.
While McCaffrey did run track he really wasn't all that, but "good" football speed. His grandpa Dave Sime the real sprinter in the family, a 1960 Olympic 100m silver medalist and still considered one of the fastest white American sprinters ever.
The huge difference in black/white speed is that size/speed combo, we only find 220 pounders/4.4, or 6-3 4.4, coming from those with western African roots.
While the fact McCaffrey is an oddity today that being a speedy, elusive white RB he isn't the only/first one.
Back in the day TCU had Cy Leland, he was world record sprinter (9.5yards). Glen Davis the Mr.Outside (9.6 sprinter)in that famed Army's Mr.Outside and Mr.Inside (Doc Blanchard, both won the Heisman) backfield. I think Davis had a short nothing career as a Detroit Lion.
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett (24 foot long jumper at USC) was fast, elusive, with serious quicks, played for the Rams, had a solid pro career. The great Hugh "The King' McElhenny (Cali State hurdles champ) was as elusive as elusive gets, a fantastic runner. A Hall of Famer.(Niner)
The Chargers had darter Dickie Post, while not a burner he had amazing qucks and agility. Would be in the slot today.
Craig James had good sped and some wiggle, he is the last speedy white RB to have a 1000 yard rushing season in the NFL, as a Pat.
While McCaffrey did run track he really wasn't all that, but "good" football speed. His grandpa Dave Sime the real sprinter in the family, a 1960 Olympic 100m silver medalist and still considered one of the fastest white American sprinters ever.
The huge difference in black/white speed is that size/speed combo, we only find 220 pounders/4.4, or 6-3 4.4, coming from those with western African roots.
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Long before McCaffrey......
5 -- Cy Leland ('30): One of the fastest men in the world he tied the WORLD RECORD in the 100-yard dash with a time of 9.4 seconds in 1930 he turned all that speed loose on the football field to become the first great halfback in TCU history. In 1929, he was All-SWC and led the Frogs to an undefeated season and their first-ever SWC title, rushing for 680 yards and scoring 13 touchdowns (11 rushing) a record that would stand for 26 years. The Lubbock native averaged 7.2 yards every time he carried the ball best in the nation. He also returned a kickoff and a punt for touchdowns both over 90 yards. He was an unmatched breakaway runner in the days of "four yards and a cloud of dust." He was All-SWC again in 1930, as well as an All-American, when he rushed for 583 yards and nine more T
5 -- Cy Leland ('30): One of the fastest men in the world he tied the WORLD RECORD in the 100-yard dash with a time of 9.4 seconds in 1930 he turned all that speed loose on the football field to become the first great halfback in TCU history. In 1929, he was All-SWC and led the Frogs to an undefeated season and their first-ever SWC title, rushing for 680 yards and scoring 13 touchdowns (11 rushing) a record that would stand for 26 years. The Lubbock native averaged 7.2 yards every time he carried the ball best in the nation. He also returned a kickoff and a punt for touchdowns both over 90 yards. He was an unmatched breakaway runner in the days of "four yards and a cloud of dust." He was All-SWC again in 1930, as well as an All-American, when he rushed for 583 yards and nine more T
Worm
slimy ninja
CMC 1,000 / 1,000 Tracker
Final Stats:
219 carries for 1,098 yards and 7 TD's
107 receptions for 867 yards and 6 TD's
1 pass for 50 yards and 1 TD
1,965 total yards and 14 total TD's
We didn't reach 1K/1K but it's safe to say CMC was a complete beast this year. Til next year gents.
Final Stats:
219 carries for 1,098 yards and 7 TD's
107 receptions for 867 yards and 6 TD's
1 pass for 50 yards and 1 TD
1,965 total yards and 14 total TD's
We didn't reach 1K/1K but it's safe to say CMC was a complete beast this year. Til next year gents.
I named some of my fantasy teams Mancrushin' McCaffrey for a reason fightingillini
Footballguy
I wouldn't worry about that. It's coachspeak.Riverboat run needs to shut his trap with that kind of talk!
BTW, McCaffrey only had 326 touches last year. About 20 touches a game. It's not that big of a workload.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I think it might be good for him if he can still get the same number of touches but not play all of the snaps. We don't want him wearing down on us.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I loved it when he ran 70 yards to the 2 and instead of coming out for a breather like most backs, was first to the huddle and then ran it into the end zone.
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
Of course he can do it again! Dude is a BEAST!!
BassNBrew
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/espnnfl/status/1123309995280539649?s=21
He looks like he could shove DK in a locker...
He looks like he could shove DK in a locker...
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Well I predicted stronger a faster, but this is just insane. I figured he'd have one of the best work ethics in the league...hope it's just that and not some chemical help. You can see his quad muscles through his sweat pants. Love the sleeveless hoodie look. I do wonder how lugging around 30 pounds arms is going to help his game.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Great call @BassNBrew on CMC coming into camp bigger.
I don't think anyone would have predicted he'd come in looking like the love child of an orgy between The Hulk, Juggernaut, and David Boston, but wow.
I don't think anyone would have predicted he'd come in looking like the love child of an orgy between The Hulk, Juggernaut, and David Boston, but wow.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I think he's bulking up to switch to LT by the end of his rookie contract.
Oh...and here's the faster portion.
https://www.stack.com/a/why-christian-mccaffrey-is-training-like-a-track-athlete-this-offseason
So while he's packing on all that muscle, he's supposedly working on increasing his speed.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Looks photoshopped
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
It does but I don't believe it truly is, do you? It's just one of those pictures that was timed exactly right at the exact moment.
I imagine standing there at rest, he looks much different.
Still an absolute beast tho.
https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_photo_album/f_auto/panthers/loujehf82etnxsqcbx4n.jpgStompin' Tom Connors said:
https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_photo_album/f_auto/panthers/uw98kulqbzt5pmmevf1z.jpg
Nope, still pretty huge.
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Snorkelson
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LawFitz
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Dr. Octopus
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Agree, those aren't freakish looking as they were in the first pick. They don't look out of place on an NFL starting RB.
That said they are still impressive.
Bronco Billy
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matuski
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CMC can still only aspire to have the career Danny Woodhead did. He's had one quite good year, granted, but he's not the full Woodhead yet.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
MooversShakers
Footballguy
Considering McCaffrey with the overall #1 pick, why would or wouldnt that be a good idea?
Mark Football
Footballguy
Pro: He's good, real good. The Panthers with a healthy Cam will have a good offense.
Con: Cam threw him a lot more passes after his injury last year. A healthy Cam will want to push the ball further down the field this year limiting his receptions.
cloppbeast
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Saquon Barkley is why it wouldn't be a good idea.MooversShakers said:
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MooversShakers
Footballguy
Barkley is definitely a more talented back but is the situation as good? Barkley has a tough rushing schedule and on a ####ty team who will probably be playing from behind quite a bit this year. OBJ is gone, who is the main threat on that team now?
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
mccaffrey owner here and fully on board with sky is the limit for this kid. buuuuuuuut, as a general narrative and within this context of the #1 pick for the year. there is absolutely a possibility of a regression on usage here with Cam back in the picture healthy. I'd think the Panthers have to focus around Cam this year if for nothing else because of his contract coming up for renewal next year, which is already being talked about now in the media. that i think will have to mean more Cam and less mccaffrey at some level. so i personally would lean heavily to barkley if i was in a redraft league. giants have to lean on him. no more obj to bail out whoever ends up at qb there.
if it turns out Cam is not back to form with the new throwing motion and what not reported so far, then this choice would be much much closer.
if it turns out Cam is not back to form with the new throwing motion and what not reported so far, then this choice would be much much closer.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If the Giants are playing from behind Barkley will catch a ton of passes.
I don’t think you could go wrong either way to be honest. Both should be great but both have some minor risks.
Agree with this. To me Barkley's floor remains really high in ppr even in a potentially bad offense because they'll have to run it through him and he'll catch a lot of passes (for the record I think their WRs are a little underrated, but the OL/QB situation is...dicey).
In addition to Cam's health, the Panthers have talked about reducing CMC's workload and that seems pretty likely given they used him a ton last year (his reception usage was record-breaking). But if Cam is good, the upgrade in the OL and further maturity for Moore could make for an efficient offense.
