Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
A 2025 pick?
So the Lions just pushed the couch to the curb I guess.
So the Lions just pushed the couch to the curb I guess.
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RB D’Andre Swift, CHI (1 Viewer)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yeah, and some injury prone college kid said, hey, that will look good in my apartment.
zamboni
Footballguy
They played their hand and Roseman is about the best in the business.
massraider
Footballguy
Changing his name to If He Can Stay Healthy Swift
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Eagles going to refurbish the couch, use it for a year and then sell it to someone else for a comp pick.
beef
Footballguy
So they could get a comp pick (2024) before they actually have to pay the bill (2025)? Would be really funny if Swift received a high enough offer to make the comp pick higher than the trade pick.
Not sure if it really matters if he stays healthy. He replaces Sermon as a 4th RB on our team (not RB4, just a 4th one). Very little to lose here, we already planned to go into the season with penny/gainwell/scott...... Swift is just icing.
FairWarning
Footballguy
what are the odds of Penny and Swift both healthy and productive this season? Personally, I would rather have M Sanders.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
He does remind me a little of Philadelphia cream cheese.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
More like Swiss cheese
massraider
Footballguy
There's definitely a world where they contribute to a sick rotation, every week a different guy hurts you. And they aren't depending on either Penny or Swift to carry the team. The Eagles can lose Penny and Swift, and it doesn't hurt them like it hurts their previous clubs.
To the Eagles, worth the risk. I agree, not buts or asterisks.
This is more about Swift. When GIbbs was drafted my thought was, oh, Swift is done, probably physically. I don't like his outlook that much more because the Eagles traded for him.
They could only each play every 2nd game and be okay. And there's still Gainwell. You'd rather Sanders at 7.5 M/season? HELL NO.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
So this tells me, that Kwesi can trade Cook if he expects nothing in return.
The comp pick and the traded pick would be in the same draft
FairWarning
Footballguy
Actually I would for fantasy purposes.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I believe the salaries of Swift, Penny, Gainwell and Scott are about equal to the salary of Miles. Howie is a beast.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ok, we agree Howie is a genius.
so how are we collectively feeling about this backfield for FF purposes?
Redraft, PPR format, where y’all drafting these guys?
Penny was probably an early 4th before the Swift acquisition? Is he a dead zone guy now?
Swift was a late 2nd rounder last year - before this trade he was probably an 8th or 9th round pick at best. Is he right there with Penny now?
Gainwell an end of draft dart throw?
Seems like a dangerous offense in RL, but it could be a hot mess for FF.
so how are we collectively feeling about this backfield for FF purposes?
Redraft, PPR format, where y’all drafting these guys?
Penny was probably an early 4th before the Swift acquisition? Is he a dead zone guy now?
Swift was a late 2nd rounder last year - before this trade he was probably an 8th or 9th round pick at best. Is he right there with Penny now?
Gainwell an end of draft dart throw?
Seems like a dangerous offense in RL, but it could be a hot mess for FF.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Swift could be exactly what he was in Detroit.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m not sure exactly what that is. lol
Also *genius, not heinous, but thank you autocorrect.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
History repeating itself?
eighsse2
Footballguy
Something like a ferocious tiger on a 2-foot-long leash.
ETA: I guess a lion would be a little more fitting. Oh also in a body cast.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He likes to come out of the game with minor nicks.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Eagles were relatively healthy last season. They have a good strength and conditioning staff as well as good doctors and trainers.
Also, I wonder if Swift and Penny will be able to stay healthy playing on natural grass instead of turf. I don't know either guys injury history.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Do we really believe he chooses to do that? I'm not saying you're wrong. But do you truly believe he likes to get out of playing?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No, but according to his former coach Staley he doesn’t know the difference between pain and injury.
need2know
Footballguy
Not sure but either way he stays hurt
satch
Footballguy
Swift has proven himself the kind of player who can be a fantasy star on limited touches. He’s now on one of the best offenses in the league, playing for a team that wants to exploit his strengths as opposed to a team keeping him on a leash.
With significantly fewer touches, an RB like Swift on a team like Philly can equal the fantasy production of a workhorse on a struggling offense. Additionally, fewer touches, in theory, minimizes injury risk compared to an RB getting hammered by stacked boxes 20+ carries per game.
We know Swift has struggled to stay healthy, but there seems to have been something else going on behind the scenes in Detroit that contributed to his lack of usage. I’m betting a change of scenery to a winning team like Philly with strong leadership brings out the best in a reinvigorated Swift, who will be a highly efficient must-start fantasy asset throughout 2023, finishing as a top 15 RB in .5 ppr.
With significantly fewer touches, an RB like Swift on a team like Philly can equal the fantasy production of a workhorse on a struggling offense. Additionally, fewer touches, in theory, minimizes injury risk compared to an RB getting hammered by stacked boxes 20+ carries per game.
We know Swift has struggled to stay healthy, but there seems to have been something else going on behind the scenes in Detroit that contributed to his lack of usage. I’m betting a change of scenery to a winning team like Philly with strong leadership brings out the best in a reinvigorated Swift, who will be a highly efficient must-start fantasy asset throughout 2023, finishing as a top 15 RB in .5 ppr.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I like glass is half full kind of people.
FairWarning
Footballguy
You also know what you get with injured players.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
I’m a glass 3/4‘s full now with Swift. He will be playing for his next contract, this will be his last shot to get a nice payday, like his chances in the Philly offense. He’s already listed at the top of the Philly depth chart. If Jerick McKinnon can miraculously go from being made of glass, surely Swift can do the same. Hopefully he has a successful year and Philly signs him to a multi year contract. As as today, it’s Swift‘s job to lose.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Keywords “As of today”.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Defenses have to worry about AJ Brown and Davante, Dallas across the middle of the field, leaving a spy on Jalen and dealing with one of the best run blocking lines in the league. Swift will be a monster in this offense. The run game is made to bounce to the outside which I think will help Swift. Top 10 potential in this offense if healthy. I'm excited.
Maybe Staley has no idea what he's talking about? He's a coach, not a doctor.
Swift has played in 80% of his games. Now everytime I say that someone rushes in to say "but yeah, he was not right in a lot of those games". So how can that be correct and also what Staley is saying? I don't see how it can be both.
I'd be very surprised if Swift got a workload big enough to be top-10. This is a Super Bowl contender, they'll want to keep him fresh/healthy. I'm expecting a 10-12 touches a week for Swift.
styleride85
Footballguy
Penny on natural grass and 10 carries a game will also stay healthy. Full committee. Fantasy nightmare, but great for Philly.
Counter argument to that is he's putting up fairly close to per game top 10 numbers on an average of 13 touches a game in his career.
zamboni
Footballguy
He got a lot of receptions/dumpoffs from Goff though as part of those touches. Can’t expect the same with Hurts.
Not really an exorbitant amount. 9 carries and a little under 4 receptions a game.
satch
Footballguy
That’s a good point, but now that he has an explosive receiving weapon at RB, perhaps we can expect that from Hurts. Seems easy enough to work in a hand full of dump offs per game, giving the defense yet one more thing to worry about.
Can't be worse then Jamaal.
jurrassic
Footballguy
Was a year ahead of schedule on the other team prediction, but nailed everything else. I love to watch the guy play, when's he's able and willing, but he's approaching the danger zone for his career. Nice lottery ticket for Philly. Swift really needs a healthy year.
metoo
Footballguy
Nothing. This is good for Philly not so much for ff. Good luck knowing when to start him.So what has changed for Swift except his team?I don’t mean this to be as harsh as it sounds but I don’t think you’ve ever had the proper view on Swift, so I’ll just chalk up your thoughts on the landing spot accordingly.As always with Swift it is short lived.Really? I’m pretty happy today.Swift owners are and will always be doing that.Gainwell owners
My worlds collided a bit on this trade because I'm quite fond of both of their talents. Even have them on team together which I'm about to draft Gibbs so some stuff about the trade had me a little conflicted.
I agree that the plan will be to make this a RBBC. It makes to much sense considering health issues of both RB's and what the team anticipates playing for in January. Of course that's when both are healthy which I'm pulling for but has been their issue.
Penny's a little to old for this to matter a lot, even if his low usage helps, but for Swift I like the trade for him past this upcoming season. He needed a change of scenery in general and returning to his hometown surrounded by Georgia players seems kind of an ideal spot for him to potentially rehab his value. If he can he'll be approaching FA next year as a 25 year old versatile RB who has not been used very hard.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Jalen surely will get his, but still alot of other rushing TDs to be had, last year Philly’s RBs rushed for 17 TDs.
