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RB De’Von Achane, MIA (1 Viewer)

Buy low opportunity is now. He is better and more productive playing second fiddle and not taking the bruiser role. If Tua is able to come back they will utilize him more in space where he is most productive.
Interesting and I tend to agree as an Achane Owner. However I was just offered a blockbuster include him:

  • Trade away: Brian Robinson Jr, Achane, Adams and Hockenson
  • Receive: Lamb, LaPorta and Ford
I have been one of De'Von's biggest advocates but I would be unloading three major question marks in Achane's health, Adams healthy/trade likeliood and Hockenson's health coming back from a major injury.

I hate selling "low" on Achane but getting Lamb and Laporta back is intriguing.
 
Buy low opportunity is now. He is better and more productive playing second fiddle and not taking the bruiser role. If Tua is able to come back they will utilize him more in space where he is most productive.
Interesting and I tend to agree as an Achane Owner. However I was just offered a blockbuster include him:

  • Trade away: Brian Robinson Jr, Achane, Adams and Hockenson
  • Receive: Lamb, LaPorta and Ford
I have been one of De'Von's biggest advocates but I would be unloading three major question marks in Achane's health, Adams healthy/trade likeliood and Hockenson's health coming back from a major injury.

I hate selling "low" on Achane but getting Lamb and Laporta back is intriguing.
I don't mind that trade. Is this dynasty? Adams to Lamb is huge upgrade and I do like LaPorta over Hock. Hard to say what Hock's targets will be like coming off ACL and how he fits in to this offense. Does he go back to #2 or is he #3 on the target list.

Ford is the only downside here but you gotta give up something to get something.
 
Buy low opportunity is now. He is better and more productive playing second fiddle and not taking the bruiser role. If Tua is able to come back they will utilize him more in space where he is most productive.
Interesting and I tend to agree as an Achane Owner. However I was just offered a blockbuster include him:

  • Trade away: Brian Robinson Jr, Achane, Adams and Hockenson
  • Receive: Lamb, LaPorta and Ford
I have been one of De'Von's biggest advocates but I would be unloading three major question marks in Achane's health, Adams healthy/trade likeliood and Hockenson's health coming back from a major injury.

I hate selling "low" on Achane but getting Lamb and Laporta back is intriguing.
I don't mind that trade. Is this dynasty? Adams to Lamb is huge upgrade and I do like LaPorta over Hock. Hard to say what Hock's targets will be like coming off ACL and how he fits in to this offense. Does he go back to #2 or is he #3 on the target list.

Ford is the only downside here but you gotta give up something to get something.
Thanks for the response!

It's a 2 keeper league which does add a wrinkle. My keepers were JT (4th rounder) and Achane (8th rounder). I could keep Achane as a keeper next year but it goes up to a 7th, then a 6th, etc. So his keeper value is immense. However one of his keepers was LaPorta for an 8th, so I could keep him as a 7th next year, 6th, etc.

My likely keeper options next year are Taylor for a 3rd, Robinson Jr for a 5th, Daniels for a 6th, Chase Brown for a 7th, Achane for a 7th, Hockenson for an 11th. So depending on who I trade for/keep, there's definitely keeper value associated.
 
Buy low opportunity is now. He is better and more productive playing second fiddle and not taking the bruiser role. If Tua is able to come back they will utilize him more in space where he is most productive.
I think he was gonna have a pretty great game against NE too. 100% agree he's been a good buy-low this entire time Tua has been out, though the price might be getting higher the closer we are to Tua's return.
 
Buy low opportunity is now. He is better and more productive playing second fiddle and not taking the bruiser role. If Tua is able to come back they will utilize him more in space where he is most productive.
I think he was gonna have a pretty great game against NE too. 100% agree he's been a good buy-low this entire time Tua has been out, though the price might be getting higher the closer we are to Tua's return.
With the bye week, concussion, and the mystery of Tua…it seems like the perfect time to strike.
 
I am big of an Achane guy there is but if I were offered a usable piece and a pick that had potential to be high, I'd jump ship rn.
 
I think I may bench Achane. I can start JK Dobbins at RB2, and Jameson Williams, and Christian Watson instead for my Flex spots.
 
It blows my mind how little Achane has been utilized in the passing game since Tua left.
  • Week 1: 7 targets, 7 receptions
  • Week 2: 7 targets, 7 receptions
  • Week 3: 5 targets, 3 receptions
  • Week 4: 3 targets, 3 receptions
  • Week 5: 1 target, 1 reception
You'd think with horrible QBs and being behind early you'd utilize him MORE in the passing game. Why hasn't McDaniel made it a priority to do screens and such with Achane?
 
It blows my mind how little Achane has been utilized in the passing game since Tua left.
  • Week 1: 7 targets, 7 receptions
  • Week 2: 7 targets, 7 receptions
  • Week 3: 5 targets, 3 receptions
  • Week 4: 3 targets, 3 receptions
  • Week 5: 1 target, 1 reception
You'd think with horrible QBs and being behind early you'd utilize him MORE in the passing game. Why hasn't McDaniel made it a priority to do screens and such with Achane?
If McDaniel wants to win games and retain his “offensive genius” status, he’ll realize that his scrub backup QBs can complete a 4 yard dump off to Achane and get decent YAC from it.
 
It blows my mind how little Achane has been utilized in the passing game since Tua left.
  • Week 1: 7 targets, 7 receptions
  • Week 2: 7 targets, 7 receptions
  • Week 3: 5 targets, 3 receptions
  • Week 4: 3 targets, 3 receptions
  • Week 5: 1 target, 1 reception
You'd think with horrible QBs and being behind early you'd utilize him MORE in the passing game. Why hasn't McDaniel made it a priority to do screens and such with Achane?
It's possible defenses were just swarming Achane and a dump off would go for nothing or negative gain...and probably get him killed (it did.)

The offense is much more unpredictable with Tua...the problem with this "genius" coach is that he can't create a new offense on the fly like McVay just did.
 
I think I may bench Achane. I can start JK Dobbins at RB2, and Jameson Williams, and Christian Watson instead for my Flex spots.
I think I’m rolling achanne over Watson but would start the other two.
Watson over Achane would be especially bold I think. Watson is a candidate for 1-2 catches in any given week, but especially given the matchup against the awful Colts run defense. Hell, I'd probably have Achane ahead of Jameson Williams based on matchups this week.
 
I think the story on the receptions is 2 fold

1) Defenses are playing miami way different. ANother guy in the box makes those short throws much more likely to be blown up and 2) Theyve been getting their *** kicked so bad MM has basically looked checked out on the sideline

Week 2 he got a ton of touches late after Tua was killed and that made no sense to me?

Why waste touches when you're getting smoked and your RB is fragile to begin with (Football thinking, obviously not fantasy thinking)

The hope is out of the bye theres a plan in place and than a Tua return and back to normal for this offense.

Not going to lie though, in redraft-- i may be looking to sell high once he pops off.
 
I think there are 2 things with Achane's lack of targets. 1, Tua makes quick reads and is also a threat to throw it deep. If the deeper route isn't there Tua will check down right away. Tua processes things much faster than any of the backup QBs.

2 I don't think the other QBs are into the check down as much as Tua. Huntley seems to be the guy who will wait and wait to see if soemthing opens up downfield. Thompson's check down is the TE. Tua checks down to the RB and not the TE.
 
I get that people that roster Achane will likely have to play him with injuries and byes, but anyone concerned that he's ranked as the #56 RB in ppg in ppr leagues in the games that Tua has missed?
 
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I get that people that roster Achane will likely have to play Achane with injuries and byes, but anyone concerned that he's ranked as the #56 RB in ppg in ppr leagues in the games that Tua has missed?
I would bench him if I had the option. So yes, really concerned.
 
I get that people that roster Achane will likely have to play Achane with injuries and byes, but anyone concerned that he's ranked as the #56 RB in ppg in ppr leagues in the games that Tua has missed?
I would bench him if I had the option. So yes, really concerned.
I have Chase Brown, Mooney, and Dobbs I could start over him in full ppr. He’s in my starting lineup as of right now. Not sure what to do honestly.
 
I get that people that roster Achane will likely have to play him with injuries and byes, but anyone concerned that he's ranked as the #56 RB in ppg in ppr leagues in the games that Tua has missed?
Where does Tyreek Hill rank over that same span if you don't mind me asking?
I bet it's nowhere near the Top 20-25
 
I get that people that roster Achane will likely have to play him with injuries and byes, but anyone concerned that he's ranked as the #56 RB in ppg in ppr leagues in the games that Tua has missed?
Where does Tyreek Hill rank over that same span if you don't mind me asking?
I bet it's nowhere near the Top 20-25
WR64 based on ppg.
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-Thank You!
I have him in a few different redrafts and I've had to bench him a couple times now, it's not funny.
 
I get that people that roster Achane will likely have to play him with injuries and byes, but anyone concerned that he's ranked as the #56 RB in ppg in ppr leagues in the games that Tua has missed?
All Miami players are concerning to play without Tua. It is not good captain. But alas I'm likely starting him for the reasons you mention (byes and injuries).
 
I'm in total agreement with everyone about the skepticism of any MIA offensive player without Tua in the lineup, Achane specifically. But with the bye week just finishing up for the Dolphins, might it stand to reason that they were able to script some specific plays without Tua in the lineup? Perhaps different schemes involving Achane?

I realize that's the rose-colored-stained-glass-window approach, but as an Achane owner, it is something I figure in to my decision.
 
One more week and maybe Tua is back? Then everyone rejoices
I don't know if McDaniel was trying to do a rope a dope, but this week he indicated they hope to have Tua back at some point this season (but did not give a timeline). That sounds a lot longer term than next week.
 
One more week and maybe Tua is back? Then everyone rejoices
I don't know if McDaniel was trying to do a rope a dope, but this week he indicated they hope to have Tua back at some point this season (but did not give a timeline). That sounds a lot longer term than next week.
I read that as being due to him being on IR and in concussion protocol -- he can't play until he's cleared protocol, and he can't progress through the protocol until he's off IR. McDaniel also stated at the beginning they didn't want to put any timeline/pressure on Tua returning. For better or worse, I would be surprised if Tua doesn't play Week 8.
 
I was supposed to go to this game but something came up. That means I like the Colts chances. I wish good health for Achane, not only for him, but also for his fantasy owners. I don’t wish him game success however.
 
Just want to give everyone a heads up that my opponent this week is starting Achane against me so I'm guessing he will have a career day.

Use that information for what it's worth.
 
One more week and maybe Tua is back? Then everyone rejoices
I don't know if McDaniel was trying to do a rope a dope, but this week he indicated they hope to have Tua back at some point this season (but did not give a timeline). That sounds a lot longer term than next week.
Yeah, I was just reading up on some stuff today and maybe I was getting my hopes up a bit early.... ugh.
 
One more week and maybe Tua is back? Then everyone rejoices
I don't know if McDaniel was trying to do a rope a dope, but this week he indicated they hope to have Tua back at some point this season (but did not give a timeline). That sounds a lot longer term than next week.
Yeah, I was just reading up on some stuff today and maybe I was getting my hopes up a bit early.... ugh.
Well, it’s not as if they need to worry about the QB. The Colts may get 7 sacks on Sunday just rushing 4. Achane will have a big play or two.
 
One more week and maybe Tua is back? Then everyone rejoices
I don't know if McDaniel was trying to do a rope a dope, but this week he indicated they hope to have Tua back at some point this season (but did not give a timeline). That sounds a lot longer term than next week.
Yeah, I was just reading up on some stuff today and maybe I was getting my hopes up a bit early.... ugh.
I don't think you are. I think its about a 95% chance Tua is starting week 8.
 
One more week and maybe Tua is back? Then everyone rejoices
I don't know if McDaniel was trying to do a rope a dope, but this week he indicated they hope to have Tua back at some point this season (but did not give a timeline). That sounds a lot longer term than next week.
I read that as being due to him being on IR and in concussion protocol -- he can't play until he's cleared protocol, and he can't progress through the protocol until he's off IR. McDaniel also stated at the beginning they didn't want to put any timeline/pressure on Tua returning. For better or worse, I would be surprised if Tua doesn't play Week 8.
 
De’Von Achane rushed 10 times for 97 yards in the Dolphins’ Week 8 loss to the Cardinals, adding six catches for 50 yards and a touchdown.

This was everything fantasy managers could have asked for and then some in Tua Tagovailoa’s first game back. Achane opened the game with an 11-yard gain which was just his sixth rush of more than 10 yards since Tua went down in Week 2. His longest carry of the year and his first rush of over 20 yards came in the third quarter. He made multiple Arizona defenders miss on a 47-yard dash and then capped the drive with a receiving touchdown a few plays later. Achane split the backfield with Raheem Mostert, who scored two short touchdowns, but was as efficient as ever, giving fantasy managers hope that he can return to his RB1 ways going forward. He gets a date with the run-funnel Bills in Week 9.

- Rotoworld
 

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