Chaka
Footballguy
Yes. I expect them both to see usage.
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RB Devin Singletary, NYG (1 Viewer)
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...until Singles_hitter re-aggravates his groin.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
from cbs. it is noted Singletary did not log a full practice session this week despite having the injury tag removed.
nittanylion
Footballguy
If Singletary is 100% I'm not so sure it will be that even of a split.
That's just not how the NFL works, in general, and within the context of this particular situation, given the relationship between player, coach and GM.
Of course, coach and GM are very much on the hot seat, so it's surely a possibility that player gets the short end of the stick, meaning they'll give majority PT right out of the gate to the player they deem the most likely to put a notch in the W column.
Tracy performed much better than I thought he would in Singletary's absence. Absolutely, he did. Cannot deny.
The Giants added an OL from the 49'ers PS this week, Chris Hubbard. Not sure how much of a + this is, but when it comes to the Giants, almost any addition has to be considered a positive, right?
Does this motivate Singletary?
I'm willing to bet it does.
That's just not how the NFL works, in general, and within the context of this particular situation, given the relationship between player, coach and GM.
Of course, coach and GM are very much on the hot seat, so it's surely a possibility that player gets the short end of the stick, meaning they'll give majority PT right out of the gate to the player they deem the most likely to put a notch in the W column.
Tracy performed much better than I thought he would in Singletary's absence. Absolutely, he did. Cannot deny.
The Giants added an OL from the 49'ers PS this week, Chris Hubbard. Not sure how much of a + this is, but when it comes to the Giants, almost any addition has to be considered a positive, right?
Does this motivate Singletary?
I'm willing to bet it does.
Single_hitter owner in denial. Tracy is way better, man.
Black and Gold
Footballguy
I've watched far too many times where people hype up the back up and the starter keeps the role.
Rarely, does the starter lose the role after 2 games when the team paid for the starter.
Chaka
Footballguy
LOL if he's a singles hitter what's the guy who averaged 2.9 y/a against the #27 run defense?
FTR Singletary is not special, but he has a three down skill set and the coaches trust him. Long term you back Tracy for sure, RoS? Far less likely.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Sorry, you've got the wrong guy.
Been doing this a long time, and for a significant capital investment, for a few decades.
I left my heart out of my decision-making process years ago.
I'm no Oracle, by any means, and am always eager to learn new things, and leave no stone unturned, however. Just trying to make the best informed guess that I can, from week to week. So I welcome any detailed technical analysis you might be willing to offer on support of your position.
TIA!
The Frankman
Footballguy
I''m a Giants fan well acquainted with Singletary from his Bills days. By now it's well apparent Giants panicked when Saquon signed and instead of taking stock of the market they kinda overpaid Singletary, who has been one of the more inefficient backs the last couple of years. If the Giants are dumb enough to keep Tracy or any other young RB off the field in a year they're going to lose a ****ton of games/grossly misunderstood Daniel Jones lack of talent, then Daboll/Schoen deserves to get fired.
Part of the reason they're on this situation is they didn't see what they had behind Saquon yet refused to pay him. They need to find out what Tracy/Gray are.
Part of the reason they're on this situation is they didn't see what they had behind Saquon yet refused to pay him. They need to find out what Tracy/Gray are.
None of us know what is going to happen. Not sure even Daboll knows what is going to happen. Best plans change midgame, depending on game script. Tracy is just a good lottery pick, and if you have shares, you are hoping for the best. I expect a committee if both healthy. Why wouldn't it be? 75% of the teams in the NFL use a RB committee at this point.
I'd love for there to be a tweet prior to 1 indicating Singletary is going to be slow rolled today. Clear things up. Make Tracy startable anyway, otherwise, not sure either are startable.
markrc99
Footballguy
Barkley signed for nearly $40M, of the personnel decisions this FO has made, to me they did very well @RB. Devin Singletary has certainly gotten the better of competition before. But he won out because he outperformed guys like Zack Moss. Similar is that he initially lost ground & then came from behind to take back the lead role. Perhaps that reoccurs here? Scrappy inside runner & team oriented.
Beyond that, as a three-down RB, I don't like him as much. Diminutive, short arms & small hands, has had ball security issues. Teensie-tiny catch radius, if the QB's placement isn't perfect... you can't throw anything to this guy that's going to be contested. Exclusively a screen/check down option. Yet, not really apt to produce explosive plays in space.
The tape below is him in PP mode ('23), the first handful of clips, very favorable outcomes. But there's about an equal number of times he doesn't make his block. A lot of it is technique & plain ol' physics. He just doesn't have the led in the can to stone the momentum of a bigger, stronger player. We see early on what guys like him tend to resort to, the cut block. Length is huge in the NFL, critical at the LT position, but important to every player.
With respect to Tracy, seems that both times it took him awhile to get rolling, much more effective in the 2nd half. Some of them are like that, the more looks they get, the better they do. A small sample size for sure, a potential mirage. But if not & they go back to a split that doesn't lend itself... my guess is that Singletary had better hit a home run. Or, if the majority of Tracy's touches are receptions, perhaps that's the mix that'll work for both. Just a guess.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think Warren will have a good amount
more touches than Singletary will. Go with Jaylen IMO
appreciate that feedback...
markrc99
Footballguy
Telling and a fair bet you're confident that it wouldn't matter here. You hyperlinked two separate sentences & left out what was reported & contrary to your purported narrative. I'll leave it with you, name checks out though.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Those 2 sentences are what was reported for Monday July 28 on Singletary (and Tracy). Apropos to post in the Singletary topic.
The linked page does add other days of training camp though. You may need to scroll down.
Perhaps you were at the practices with Jordan Raanan and wish to report otherwise. /unsure
But true that it likely doesn't matter.
Chaka
Footballguy
That's an odd response.
markrc99
Footballguy
I can acknowledge that not everything I wrote was constructive & per usual, regret that not being the case. Riffraff's response may suggest he referenced something in the Singletary thread, not sure. Afterwards he says content cited from the 28th was specific to Tracy & Singletary & that content from other days gets added. But you click what his source & scroll to the 28th, the two sentences he cited are bolded & shown in context below:
New York has high hopes for their running attack with Tyrone Tracy Jr. leading the way. Rookie Cam Skattebo could also be a major factor based on the flashes he's shown early in camp. "He's a low-level, gets his pads down, runs hard [guy]," coach Brian Daboll said. "Looking forward to watching him run."
Tracy and Devin Singletary are still taking almost all the first-team reps at training camp. Skattebo is doing a lot of his damage catching the ball out of the backfield, which should eventually get him some more opportunities with the starting unit.
To me, it didn't look the part, what was omitted seemed to support a narrative & was misleading.
Riffraff
Footballguy
No narrative and no stake on the player, just kept it focused within the topic of Singletary. Had to add Tracy since Singletary he is replacing him in some first down instances and is in the same sentences.
If you would like to copy/paste the Skattebo material to the Skattebo topic, go for it. You may also choose to add or omit that he's playing with the 2nd/3rd team and looking great doing so, but I believe someone has already posted that he's been looking good. Seemed like duplication, but do what you must.
