RB Isiah Pacheco, KC (2 Viewers)

[greenmountaingoat]

Traded Nico Collins for him last year in one league

The other place I have him, (for now) I have the depth to cover for him. I think I'd have Perine as the main guy to roster in any sort of PPR league but don't think either is going to be better than an RB2-3 or flex play. Not really a "to the moon" situation IMHO.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

There is nobody on the roster that will replace him or actually fill his shoes IMHO
Chiefs should think about a possible trade

 

[Dizzy]

There is nobody on the roster that will replace him or actually fill his shoes IMHO
Chiefs should think about a possible trade

Fully with you. I believe is is gone for the season (maybe back for playoffs) and the remaining guys are complimentary players.

What is CEH's status... IR?

 

[TampaMike19]

Chiefs players are breaking bones left and right. Get that Midwest milk in them.

That said, this freaking sucks. Pacheco is built to be a big cog in the current machine. Perhaps they’ll need Kelce earlier than expected.

 

[anguskahn]

Given today's news...What is Pacheco's current value? Who are some RBs you would trade him for today if you cant afford to wait 4-8 weeks for him to return...

Singletary? Moss? Swift? Pollard?

 

[kface]

So nobody worth picking up? I cant see using FAAB on these guys right now...

 

[travdogg]

There is nobody on the roster that will replace him or actually fill his shoes IMHO
Chiefs should think about a possible trade

I think if they don't make trade, and I keep coming back to someone like Miles Sanders as a top candidate, which is whatever.

If they stick with what they have, I kinda wonder if they drastically change their run/pass ratio. And things like jet sweeps and quick screens become a very large part of their "running game"

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

 

[Dizzy]

There is nobody on the roster that will replace him or actually fill his shoes IMHO
Chiefs should think about a possible trade

I think if they don't make trade, and I keep coming back to someone like Miles Sanders as a top candidate, which is whatever.

If they stick with what they have, I kinda wonder if they drastically change their run/pass ratio. And things like jet sweeps and quick screens become a very large part of their "running game"

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

Agreed. Teams like the Chiefs (and 49ers) can win a lot of games without their feature RB. No need to rush these guys back. Both teams are eyeing Super Bowl, not "desperate to make the playoffs"... they will be overly cautious with Pacheco's injury IMO.

 

[TampaMike19]

The Chiefs need someone to make defenses pay for giving them a light box…maybe Carson can do that in the mean time.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Kareem Hunt please.

 

[zeeshan2]

Tua, Kupp and Pacheco all in the same weekend for some of us
Better luck to us next year

don't forget cmc

 

[Proteus]

Kareem Hunt please.

How 'bout Laid-off Lenny?

 

[Pietaster2]

165 lb Xavier Worthy will take the Deebo Samuel role to replace Pacheco.

 

[travdogg]

Kareem Hunt please.

Better chance of me starting for KC than Hunt. That bridge is ash.

 

[Down Under]

Despite what a few people have said here, I've got to think that many leagues will have someone bust the bank for Steele. I have Perine in one league, I'll have to consider it, although I don't really want to carry 2 KC RBs.

 

[eighsse2]

My guess is Perine gets the bulk of the work. Steele is not a guy you want to be your primary back.

 

[JohnnyU]

Mahomes will throw it more

 

[ffmail4me]

I feel very fortunate to have Steele in 11 of my 14 dynasty money leagues. I spent like 90% of my BBID bucks on him before week 1. And the 3 leagues I don’t have him I have Mason. So I hate injuries but this year I’m very lucky/prepared. I felt like I was watching John Riggins run when I watched his preseason games. But not gloating about Pacheco I love how hard he runs and hate this for him.

 

[ffmail4me]

My guess is Perine gets the bulk of the work. Steele is not a guy you want to be your primary back.

I couldn’t disagree with you more. And looking how he out rushed Perine 7 to 0 this weekend not sure why you think that. Not trying to be snarky but I don’t see Perine as anything more than a jag who can catch passes.

 

[Gally]

My guess is Perine gets the bulk of the work. Steele is not a guy you want to be your primary back.

I couldn’t disagree with you more. And looking how he out rushed Perine 7 to 0 this weekend not sure why you think that. Not trying to be snarky but I don’t see Perine as anything more than a jag who can catch passes.

I am not saying this as gospel for this situation however, many times when in game injuries happen the way the gameplan was prepared for has more to do with who did what during and after the injury than the injury itself. Once the injury happens and a coaching staff has time to prepare for the new reality what happened in that last game isn't necessarily what will happen moving foward.

 

[Chaka]

What is CEH's status... IR?

NFI I believe. I think he can return after week four.

 

[eighsse2]

My guess is Perine gets the bulk of the work. Steele is not a guy you want to be your primary back.

I couldn’t disagree with you more. And looking how he out rushed Perine 7 to 0 this weekend not sure why you think that. Not trying to be snarky but I don’t see Perine as anything more than a jag who can catch passes.

I agree that Perine is a jag, but a jag is the best you can get sometimes. He's probably a better runner all-around than Steele. Perine could possibly be the "direct backup" to the starter, while Steele would be the short-yardage guy.

 

[iamkoza]

What is CEH's status... IR?

NFI I believe. I think he can return after week four.

so unless steele lights it up, maybe their plan is CEH week 5?

 

[Chaka]

What is CEH's status... IR?

NFI I believe. I think he can return after week four.

so unless steele lights it up, maybe their plan is CEH week 5?

IDK it seems like CEH is having legitimate mental health issues, I'm not sure he's playing in the NFL again.

 

[RamblinIrish]

What about signing Deneric Prince off the Dolphins PS? He was with the team for 2 years, knows the offense, and played a lot in the preseason.

 

[Max55]

What is CEH's status... IR?

NFI I believe. I think he can return after week four.

so unless steele lights it up, maybe their plan is CEH week 5?

IDK it seems like CEH is having legitimate mental health issues, I'm not sure he's playing in the NFL again.

Plus CEH just has never been very good in the NFL.

 

[Chaka]

What is CEH's status... IR?

NFI I believe. I think he can return after week four.

so unless steele lights it up, maybe their plan is CEH week 5?

IDK it seems like CEH is having legitimate mental health issues, I'm not sure he's playing in the NFL again.

Plus CEH just has never been very good in the NFL.

It's hard to see a team being able to build a running game around him but he is better than people give him credit for, particularly in the passing game.

 

[Runkle]

What is CEH's status... IR?

NFI I believe. I think he can return after week four.

so unless steele lights it up, maybe their plan is CEH week 5?

IDK it seems like CEH is having legitimate mental health issues, I'm not sure he's playing in the NFL again.

Seems to be the vibe I'm getting as well. Did he get any work in training camp? Or is he just one of the guys they keep on the roster so he has health insurance?

 

[Loris]

Mahomes will throw it more

Good thing Perine had FIFTY receptions last year.

 

[Deamon]

Given today's news...What is Pacheco's current value? Who are some RBs you would trade him for today if you cant afford to wait 4-8 weeks for him to return...

Singletary? Moss? Swift? Pollard?

For real? None of those guys man. He's basically worthless.

 

[Deamon]

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

They say 4 weeks minimum, but I would be very surprised to see him before the NFL playoffs...

Does this make him droppable? I would think so. I know some will want to hang on, but even if he comes back for the FF playoffs, I can't see them instantly giving him a heavy load.

I'm sure we will hear more about it in the next little while, but without an IR spot, I think I would drop him unless your bench is super deep.

I also don't really believe in the Chargers, and I think KC has this division wrapped up, maybe as early as week 1 of fantasy playoffs.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Given today's news...What is Pacheco's current value? Who are some RBs you would trade him for today if you cant afford to wait 4-8 weeks for him to return...

Singletary? Moss? Swift? Pollard?

For real? None of those guys man. He's basically worthless.

In Dynasty? Some crud tanking team would 100% trade one of those guys for Pacheco IMO.

 

[Deamon]

Given today's news...What is Pacheco's current value? Who are some RBs you would trade him for today if you cant afford to wait 4-8 weeks for him to return...

Singletary? Moss? Swift? Pollard?

For real? None of those guys man. He's basically worthless.

In Dynasty? Some crud tanking team would 100% trade one of those guys for Pacheco IMO.

I would assume the talk is redraft unless specified.

 

[menobrown]

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

They say 4 weeks minimum, but I would be very surprised to see him before the NFL playoffs...

Does this make him droppable? I would think so. I know some will want to hang on, but even if he comes back for the FF playoffs, I can't see them instantly giving him a heavy load.

I'm sure we will hear more about it in the next little while, but without an IR spot, I think I would drop him unless your bench is super deep.

I also don't really believe in the Chargers, and I think KC has this division wrapped up, maybe as early as week 1 of fantasy playoffs.

• 9/16/24
  Reported as a fractured fibula suffered Week 2, fibula is outer part of ankle which is why at first ankle reported during game, good news is likely not displaced fracture and although surgery not always done it may be in this case to speed up recovery time, likely longer than 4 game IR stint but expect him to return this season
  
  
  
  
  

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

All things considered, his foot wasn’t twisted backwards, no bones sticking out - the report of a “gruesome” injury is a bit overstated.

Dude limped off the field unassisted. That’s literally the least gruesome broken bone injury I’ve ever seen. Even the tackle looked fairly benign. The hip drop on Mixon looked far far worse.

I’d expect him back in 6-8 weeks. The big issue IMO will be conditioning once the bone has mended.

 

[Deamon]

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

They say 4 weeks minimum, but I would be very surprised to see him before the NFL playoffs...

Does this make him droppable? I would think so. I know some will want to hang on, but even if he comes back for the FF playoffs, I can't see them instantly giving him a heavy load.

I'm sure we will hear more about it in the next little while, but without an IR spot, I think I would drop him unless your bench is super deep.

I also don't really believe in the Chargers, and I think KC has this division wrapped up, maybe as early as week 1 of fantasy playoffs.

• 9/16/24
  Reported as a fractured fibula suffered Week 2, fibula is outer part of ankle which is why at first ankle reported during game, good news is likely not displaced fracture and although surgery not always done it may be in this case to speed up recovery time, likely longer than 4 game IR stint but expect him to return this season
  
  
  
  
  

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I expect this to be 8+ weeks for sure. Gonna guess he's back for the thanksgiving game, but I don't see a big full heavy workload until NFL playoffs.

Drop him.

 

[karl.Racki]

I wonder how much of these early injuries are due to guys skipping camp, not doing much in the off season, and being rested in the PS..Just seems odd, how many guys struggle and are hurt right off the bat.

Are there more injuries early than late? This year so far has been brutal

 

[travdogg]

All things considered, his foot wasn’t twisted backwards, no bones sticking out - the report of a “gruesome” injury is a bit overstated.

Dude limped off the field unassisted. That’s literally the least gruesome broken bone injury I’ve ever seen. Even the tackle looked fairly benign. The hip drop on Mixon looked far far worse.

I’d expect him back in 6-8 weeks. The big issue IMO will be conditioning once the bone has mended.

I thought it looked worse than Mixon did. Mixon got rolled and turned sideways, Pacheco went all the way back, with his legs trapped. He's probably droppable in thinner leagues.

Given today's news...What is Pacheco's current value? Who are some RBs you would trade him for today if you cant afford to wait 4-8 weeks for him to return...

Singletary? Moss? Swift? Pollard?

For real? None of those guys man. He's basically worthless.

In Dynasty? Some crud tanking team would 100% trade one of those guys for Pacheco IMO.

In dynasty, I'd probably trade any of those guys except Pollard for Pacheco. Pollard is really good, and its looking like 2023 was an injury recovery/aberration season. Bengals/Bears wish they'd signed Pollard instead of the guys they did.

 

[menobrown]

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

They say 4 weeks minimum, but I would be very surprised to see him before the NFL playoffs...

Does this make him droppable? I would think so. I know some will want to hang on, but even if he comes back for the FF playoffs, I can't see them instantly giving him a heavy load.

I'm sure we will hear more about it in the next little while, but without an IR spot, I think I would drop him unless your bench is super deep.

I also don't really believe in the Chargers, and I think KC has this division wrapped up, maybe as early as week 1 of fantasy playoffs.

• 9/16/24
  Reported as a fractured fibula suffered Week 2, fibula is outer part of ankle which is why at first ankle reported during game, good news is likely not displaced fracture and although surgery not always done it may be in this case to speed up recovery time, likely longer than 4 game IR stint but expect him to return this season
  
  
  
  
  

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I expect this to be 8+ weeks for sure. Gonna guess he's back for the thanksgiving game, but I don't see a big full heavy workload until NFL playoffs.

Drop him.

Not a consideration for me to drop him.


I traded him away late last year in only dynasty league I had him and the redraft leagues I play are 20 roster sized mid/high stakes leagues. If this was a 16 roster size local league I'd be thinking of chopping him, but in this format I'll find you a roster spot for the upside he offers during the most crucial time of the fantasy season.

 

[Deamon]

I can't imagine a fractured fibula isn't a lot longer than 4 weeks.

They say 4 weeks minimum, but I would be very surprised to see him before the NFL playoffs...

Does this make him droppable? I would think so. I know some will want to hang on, but even if he comes back for the FF playoffs, I can't see them instantly giving him a heavy load.

I'm sure we will hear more about it in the next little while, but without an IR spot, I think I would drop him unless your bench is super deep.

I also don't really believe in the Chargers, and I think KC has this division wrapped up, maybe as early as week 1 of fantasy playoffs.

• 9/16/24
  Reported as a fractured fibula suffered Week 2, fibula is outer part of ankle which is why at first ankle reported during game, good news is likely not displaced fracture and although surgery not always done it may be in this case to speed up recovery time, likely longer than 4 game IR stint but expect him to return this season
  
  
  
  
  

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I expect this to be 8+ weeks for sure. Gonna guess he's back for the thanksgiving game, but I don't see a big full heavy workload until NFL playoffs.

Drop him.

Not a consideration for me to drop him.


I traded him away late last year in only dynasty league I had him and the redraft leagues I play are 20 roster sized mid/high stakes leagues. If this was a 16 roster size local league I'd be thinking of chopping him, but in this format I'll find you a roster spot for the upside he offers during the most crucial time of the fantasy season.

Yeah with 20 roster size he's for sure worth a keep. 18 probably too. 16 I would probably let him loose.

 

[ilianawindfae]

This guy is tough as nails but you can't run on a broken leg. He'll fight through some pain to get back early.

Chiefs have a Week 6 bye week. Week 7 would seem about right. Actually a timely bye week for this kind of injury.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This guy is tough as nails but you can't run on a broken leg. He'll fight through some pain to get back early.

Chiefs have a Week 6 bye week. Week 7 would seem about right. Actually a timely bye week for this kind of injury.

Correct me if I am wrong but...
IR-4 weeks/4 games is what I assume
Weeks 3, 4, 5
Bye week which doesn't count towards the 4 games so then it's Week 7 still on IR
Week 8 would be the 1st week back and you would hate to just insert him into your line up until you see is he fully healed and all the way back to before the injury
Wk 8-Oct 27th @-LVR then they host Tampa Bay on Nov 4th in Wk 9...
4 games spread over 5 weeks plus at least a ramp up week before you would want to start him
You're looking at about 6 full games or half the FF season+ is over already

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Isiah Pacheco - injury update

Right ankle fracture Specifically the fibula bone.

This could be in 1 of 3 places Near the ankle (avulsion) At the ankle joint (most concerning) Next to the tibia/shin Sometimes this is accompanied by a high-ankle sprain.

The specific location of the fracture will determine if he needs surgery (likely) and how long he will be out.

Note, the fibula is only responsible for 15-20% of body weight, so you can walk on a fractured fibula.

Problem is it articulates/makes up the ankle joint, so it needs to be stable.

This is similar to what happened to Tank Dell in 2023, as well as Mark Andrews but he likely also had a high-ankle sprain.

Return to play could range from 4 weeks to 12-weeks (season-ending).

Think Tony Pollard. Almost all fractured fibulas need surgery, and very few do not. Ligament damage is also possible; from what I saw, it is likely. The fracture location determines if surgery is needed; if multiple fractures/ligament damage are present, surgery is 100%. It is unlikely he will be back this season, and if so, he won't be the same. It will take rehab and healing time. There are a lot of factors involved that we won't know.

If he is one of the few who do not need surgery, he may come back sooner. Tony Pollard had tightrope surgery; from what I heard, that is less invasive, but still, it is surgery. The surgeon who performed two surgeries for my broken fibula said he likes to explain it is possible not to need surgery, but in most cases, he deals with, they almost always need surgery. Stability is the main issue. You have to stabilize the bone while it heals, which could mean a plate and screws for stabilizing. Of course, do any ligament repair while you are in there. Then, wait for the bone and ligaments to heal through time and rehab and see how it goes. The ligament healing is a longer process. If he had ligament damage, the damage would also be a factor.

Another problem is the hardware. I had multiple pieces of hardware. I elected to remove the hardware that was used to stabilize the bone during the healing process, which meant a very less invasive surgery. I then left the deeper hardware in my leg to avoid the second surgery being much more extensive. In both cases these young men are much younger and in better shape than myself. I would pay attention to the type of surgery reported and whether he has hardware. If he does have the hardware, he will need to decide if that hardware needs to be removed, which means a 2nd procedure. This could be 12-16 weeks, and we may not see him be his old self till sometime next season. I'm just guessing, but I see two surgeries in his future unless he goes the Tony Pollard route. I have no idea what makes someone eligible for that.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

The issue I have with Pacheco is that I worry he's going to hurt himself after every running play. Like every single one. I always tell myself after he gets up after the play, "whew".

Love watching him play. But it was a matter of time. And when he returns, it'll be a matter of time. He's the only rb, IMO, where you have to calculate this into your roster building.

 

[ilianawindfae]

This guy is tough as nails but you can't run on a broken leg. He'll fight through some pain to get back early.

Chiefs have a Week 6 bye week. Week 7 would seem about right. Actually a timely bye week for this kind of injury.

Correct me if I am wrong but...
IR-4 weeks/4 games is what I assume
Week 3, 4, 5
Bye week which doesn't count towards the 4 games ao then it's Week 7 still on IR
Week 8 would be the 1st week back and you would hate to just insert him into your line up until you see is fully healed
Wk8 Oct 27th Week @-LVR then they host Tampa Bay on Nov 4th in Wk 9...
4 games spread over 5 weeks plus at least a ramp up week before you would want to start him
You're looking at about 6 full games or half the FF season+ is over already

Maybe. I don't think they put him on IR for exactly that reason. Why tie him up an extra week? Bone injuries are way more predictable. The bone heals in time or it doesn't. That's one the human body does a remarkable job of fixing.

Google says it takes 6 weeks. This guy is a super athlete and will be ready in 5 weeks with some kind of specialized protection and pitch count.

 

[ilianawindfae]

The issue I have with Pacheco is that I worry he's going to hurt himself after every running play. Like every single one. I always tell myself after he gets up after the play, "whew".

Love watching him play. But it was a matter of time. And when he returns, it'll be a matter of time. He's the only rb, IMO, where you have to calculate this into your roster building.

Marion Barber was like that too, RIP.

 

[massraider]

Kareem Hunt please.

In terms of entertainment value, and people spending all their FAAB, then angrily cutting him two weeks later, This would be the best possible outcome.

 

[Lansdowne]

The issue I have with Pacheco is that I worry he's going to hurt himself after every running play. Like every single one. I always tell myself after he gets up after the play, "whew".

Love watching him play. But it was a matter of time. And when he returns, it'll be a matter of time. He's the only rb, IMO, where you have to calculate this into your roster building.

Pacheco's violent running style always reminded me of Marion Barber, whose career was shortened because of it. Barber started out as a TD vulture and compliment to Julius Jones and then had about three seasons of bell-cow volume before the wheels fell off.

 

[Deamon]

Maybe. I don't think they put him on IR for exactly that reason.

They already are putting him on IR.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

This guy is tough as nails but you can't run on a broken leg. He'll fight through some pain to get back early.

Chiefs have a Week 6 bye week. Week 7 would seem about right. Actually a timely bye week for this kind of injury.

Correct me if I am wrong but...
IR-4 weeks/4 games is what I assume
Week 3, 4, 5
Bye week which doesn't count towards the 4 games ao then it's Week 7 still on IR
Week 8 would be the 1st week back and you would hate to just insert him into your line up until you see is fully healed
Wk8 Oct 27th Week @-LVR then they host Tampa Bay on Nov 4th in Wk 9...
4 games spread over 5 weeks plus at least a ramp up week before you would want to start him
You're looking at about 6 full games or half the FF season+ is over already

Maybe. I don't think they put him on IR for exactly that reason. Why tie him up an extra week? Bone injuries are way more predictable. The bone heals in time or it doesn't. That's one the human body does a remarkable job of fixing.

Google says it takes 6 weeks. This guy is a super athlete and will be ready in 5 weeks with some kind of specialized protection and pitch count.

If he can avoid surgery, and depending on the time it takes for the bone to heal, the bone healing and rehab should take longer than six weeks. I can not see how he avoids the IR in any way, shape, or form. There also could be ligament damage. Six weeks seems like an outlier. It is not impossible, but so many factors would have to be in his favor. I hope Google is correct, but I would make plans for him to be out for the rest of the season.