socrates
Footballguy
Nice plan, but I’d hold out for a bit more.
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RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, WAS (25 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As a Chase, Chase, & Burrow shareholder I don’t mind that a bit.
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Where's my invite. I drafted him in June.
rockaction
Footballguy
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Is he 1st and 2nd down and Eckler on 3rds?
They're not handing it to him, they started Rodriguez tonight for lols I guess.
The Frankman
Footballguy
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I warned y'all with 25 days advance notice.
5 Commanders oozing superstar swagger on strong Day 1 of camp
Good first impressions were made.riggosrag.com
No word on how day 2 went but he looked sharp day 1 of camp.
He's gonna bust a long one in preseason. Buy before then IMO.
zamboni
Footballguy
Trip may not be wrong. Even if Robinson does get moved, we may be falsely presuming that Bill will be the guy when it could be Rodriguez, Bill, an RBBC or someone not on the roster yet.. May be wise to not get over our skis too much on Bill based on a strong camp and fantasy hype.
warpig33
Footballguy
Even without BRob...RBBC
"The Athletic’s Nicki Jhabvala reports RB Austin Ekeler remains a “key piece” of the Commanders offense.
As Brian Robinson trade rumors circulate ahead of the regular season, and as rookie RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt gains steam as a potential lead back in the run-first Washington offense, Ekeler, 30, should remain the team’s primary pass-catching backfield option who could cut into Croskey-Merritt’s workload early in the season, along with Chris Rodriguez. Robinson was held out of Monday night’s preseason game against the Bengals. JCM and Rodriguez shined against Cincinnati; the rookie rumbled for 46 yards and a score on 11 attempts. Ekeler in 2024 led the Commanders backfield with 35 receptions for 366 yards. He could have some value in deeper PPR formats this season if Robinson is traded away."
"The Athletic’s Nicki Jhabvala reports RB Austin Ekeler remains a “key piece” of the Commanders offense.
As Brian Robinson trade rumors circulate ahead of the regular season, and as rookie RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt gains steam as a potential lead back in the run-first Washington offense, Ekeler, 30, should remain the team’s primary pass-catching backfield option who could cut into Croskey-Merritt’s workload early in the season, along with Chris Rodriguez. Robinson was held out of Monday night’s preseason game against the Bengals. JCM and Rodriguez shined against Cincinnati; the rookie rumbled for 46 yards and a score on 11 attempts. Ekeler in 2024 led the Commanders backfield with 35 receptions for 366 yards. He could have some value in deeper PPR formats this season if Robinson is traded away."
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
It is called New Shiny Toy Syndrome (NSTS). Very contagious, careful out there.
Hartliner
Footballguy
When do you draft this guy?
His FantasyPros consensus ranking for running backs is #73, with a low of RB #32 and a high of RB #100 among experts. That seems to be a huge swing and I favor 32 is some guy that recently updated them so lets use that as the ceiling.
In a 12-team fantasy football league, the 32nd running back drafted typically falls around the fifth round, depending on the draft format.
That is pretty nuts I doubt I'm that high on him, anyone else have thoughts on when you pull the trigger?
His FantasyPros consensus ranking for running backs is #73, with a low of RB #32 and a high of RB #100 among experts. That seems to be a huge swing and I favor 32 is some guy that recently updated them so lets use that as the ceiling.
In a 12-team fantasy football league, the 32nd running back drafted typically falls around the fifth round, depending on the draft format.
That is pretty nuts I doubt I'm that high on him, anyone else have thoughts on when you pull the trigger?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I got in before the mass hysteria so was able to get near end of drafts. If drafting today I would lean towards targeting Rodriguez in the later rounds over reaching for JCM. I am guessing someone would reach for him much sooner than I would be comfortable.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Yeah the 5th seems very high at the moment. I was hoping I'd taking him somewhere in that 7-8 range maybe but it seems like his ADP is going to skyrocket before my drafts start.
Too bad as I would have loved to add him.
rockaction
Footballguy
Rodriguez was a good back when he was at Kentucky. JCM has to win that job. But we shouldn't slight him at all for helping Brian Robinson on out of D.C.
Lots of backs don't beat out the incumbent. It's the first step towards starting. See what I said as soon as camp started to break his way. It's upthread. This won't be easy and you weren't likely to have a plug-n-play seventh round RB. That doesn't happen often.
rockaction
Footballguy
Dude you were just worried about guppies stealing your RB and now you’ve decided it’s a committee from preseason usage. Good work.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
That is probably the case, however JCM is a nice lotto ticket. Kid is talented and with an unproven Rodriguez and aging Ekeler in front of him, there is a chance Bill grabs enough share to be relevant. I would be surprised if WAS is done with the room though.
Be more cool to other posters in the thread.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Well, @barackdhouse did remind us that Eke had a severe concussion & he’s not a young man, so…
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Man, some of the trades I’ve seen on Reddit for JCM are absurd.
Why isn’t anyone offering me a future 1st for him?!
Why isn’t anyone offering me a future 1st for him?!
Gatorade
Footballguy
I just had someone pushing to trade him to me but would not make an offer, although he did say he was interested in Chase Brown. I have Robinson, but until he is traded, I will wait and see. Either way it seems like a RBBC. Told him the best I could do now is Spears.Man, some of the trades I’ve seen on Reddit for JCM are absurd.
Why isn’t anyone offering me a future 1st for him?!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m sure he was. Lol cmon
Yeah, I wouldn’t pay more than Spears either. And I might not pay Spears for him.
I have his present day value at a generous 3rd. Could go up to a 2nd with a BRob trade, but even then he’s in a 3-way RBBC.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
nah wasn't me
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
yeah no it was news to me, I had forgotten about him getting the concussions and I was saying he could have a bigger role than some expect. don't really know what to expect now.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Football Jones
Footballguy
Dan Quinn essentially confirms the Commanders are moving on from Brian Robinson Jr.
The Commanders reportedly are shopping running back Brian Robinson Jr.
For anyone still not sure this is real. Peters talked to Robinson yesterday and Quinn told the team what was happening. When you read the tea leaves, it's not hard to come to the conclusion BRob is done in Washington.
Where does that leave JCM? Well, he's a nice dynasty prospect at the very least. If Bill was a day-1 or day-2 pick, the job would likely be handed to him at this point, but that's not the case. It's not how things work in the NFL with 7th round picks.
Talent-wise, JCM is right up there with the best of the rookie RBs. He might have a slower pace to prominence than some of the other rookies, though. It's hard to say how Washington will approach things early on. I believe Bill has a good chance to eventually be their feature back, but it's hard to pinpoint a timeline. It could be immediately if things fall right or maybe not until next season.
Long-term, JCM could be worth every bit of a 1st round pick. I drafted him in early May so I haven't thought a lot about where his value is today, but the hype on him looks to be legit. It'll be interesting to see what Bill can do this season.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I do not know what his Austin Ekeler’s concussions mean nor can I try to predict from them but they were uniquely horrendous. I think pretty much everyone with a conscience wants him to hang ‘em up.
JCM is going to have to beat guys out in court in order to be a starter with volume regardless of Eke playing,
JCM is going to have to beat guys out in court in order to be a starter with volume regardless of Eke playing,
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
There are maybe 5 special RBs in the NFL at any time. From the team perspective, pick anyone off the waiver wire that can pass block and you're mostly good to go. QB, OL, and the D front 7 are what makes this league tick. Robinson will be let go, Ekeler will be lucky to play 6 games, and JCM + others will get plugged into the position. RBBC all year long from a fantasy perspective.
We're halfway through drafting in the IBL (60-team league with five FF boards including FBG represented and five staggered drafts) ... and just within the past 24 hours JCM has gone off the board twice:
| 8.10B | The Dude (LW Ronin 4C) | Croskey-Merritt, Jacory WAS RB30 (R) |
and
| 8.06C | Phicinfan (LW Ronin 7C) | Croskey-Merritt, Jacory WAS RB29 (R) |
"Mass hysteria" indeed. RB29? For a seventh-round rookie who's reliant on a trade to find his way into a timeshare? Come on now.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Just about every team now has some form of RBBC, but there are levels to it. If you're a Bill truther, you're hoping he's good enough to become a starter who gets a significant number of touches.
That's a huge win in today's FF.
That's a huge win in today's FF.
Football Jones
Footballguy
The fun part of JCM being drafted "too high" is if he hits, it wasn't high enough, lol.
I'm very bullish on Bill in rookie drafts and startups, but some caution might be advisable in redrafts, although, refer back to my first sentence, haha. The good news is he's one of those guys that might win a redraft for you, but probly won't lose it.
I'm very bullish on Bill in rookie drafts and startups, but some caution might be advisable in redrafts, although, refer back to my first sentence, haha. The good news is he's one of those guys that might win a redraft for you, but probly won't lose it.
Hey, I hear you. Bucky Irving darn near carried me to the IBL individual title last season. But he was my 15th-round pick - not a guy I gave up draft capital to move into another draft so I could take in the 8th instead of Jennings, Njoku, or Kyler Murray.
Everyone's risk tolerance is different, but he's caught enough helium that it's reasonable to question whether the juice is worth the squeeze.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
oooh, i miss the IBL. that's cool that its still going!
Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter
Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter
JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.
Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter
JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
Rodriguez did not score a TD. He has looked good in his opportunities…but went for 58% of budget in one of my leagues. Deep rosters but still.
cheese
Footballguy
Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.
Good points all around. I just don't agree with the current Bill >>>>>>>Chris paradigm. Much closer to Bill = Chris.
Agree. Bill = Chris.
This situation reminds me of TB RBBC from 2024, except Daniels is also in the mix.
beef
Footballguy
The TB RBBC that lead to Bucky being a solid weekly starter? Ok, I'll take that for Bill.
efactor
Footballguy
Both are my “teammates” too
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.
JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".
JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.
JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".
JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Are you saying that JCM is a better RB based on those numbers? I do agree he is the better athlete. I also think it is possible he is the better RB. His start/stop ability is near elite and gives them a better opportunity at explosive plays which I think they are seeking. Yes, Rod ran for 40 with a gaping hole and blind defense…
