RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, WAS (14 Viewers)

[rockaction]

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

Are you saying that JCM is a better RB based on those numbers?

Not at all. Oh jeez. I don't feel like doing this, really. It's apparent the way Quinn talks that he brings more speed and athleticism than the other backs. But I didn't say what you said. Not even close. I don't know why you'd even begin there. Rodriguez has two inches and twelve or so pounds and also two bench reps on him. They're different backs at first blush.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

Are you saying that JCM is a better RB based on those numbers?

Not at all. Oh jeez. I don't feel like doing this, really. It's apparent the way Quinn talks that he brings more speed and athleticism than the other backs. But I didn't say what you said. Not even close. I don't know why you'd even begin there. Rodriguez has two inches and twelve or so pounds and also two bench reps on him. They're different backs at first blush.

Amen, just was not sure where you going with your post. Sorry to stir…

 

[rockaction]

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

Are you saying that JCM is a better RB based on those numbers?

Not at all. Oh jeez. I don't feel like doing this, really. It's apparent the way Quinn talks that he brings more speed and athleticism than the other backs. But I didn't say what you said. Not even close. I don't know why you'd even begin there. Rodriguez has two inches and twelve or so pounds and also two bench reps on him. They're different backs at first blush.

Amen, just was not sure where you going with your post. Sorry to stir…

No problem. I'm not upset. I've disagreed with you in the past, but you've always been a good faith debater. I just have seen so much bad faith lately that I was hoping you weren't going to do that with my argument. You didn't. We cool.

And I never saw your athleticism comment because the page had flipped. All I saw was the comment on this page. That's where I got confused. Take care. I was unaware you'd already covered what I had numbers for. We're on the same page. FWIW, I wanted to add Rodriguez this offseason but didn't have the FAAB or roster space.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

Are you saying that JCM is a better RB based on those numbers?

Not at all. Oh jeez. I don't feel like doing this, really. It's apparent the way Quinn talks that he brings more speed and athleticism than the other backs. But I didn't say what you said. Not even close. I don't know why you'd even begin there. Rodriguez has two inches and twelve or so pounds and also two bench reps on him. They're different backs at first blush.

Amen, just was not sure where you going with your post. Sorry to stir…

No problem. I'm not upset. I've disagreed with you in the past, but you've always been a good faith debater. I just have seen so much bad faith lately that I was hoping you weren't going to do that with my argument. You didn't. We cool.

Sorry again, as the off-season has brought more meaningless bickering than normal and it is getting old. Since you did not quote anyone I was not sure what your post was trying to point out specifically. A bit of a lazy/dumb response on my end which could have been perceived as antagonizing. Regardless, you bring up a good point worth noting for the backfield. They want more explosion. JCM’s start/stop ability is unique…and he is faster…and he runs with good power/lean for his size. He has potential to be something here. No disrespect for Rodriguez, but I think JCM would have had a chance to score on that hole for the 40 yard run.

 

[rockaction]

They want more explosion. JCM’s start/stop ability is unique…

Don't sweat questioning what I was saying and trying to get its context and point. It's very cool. I'm just gunshy.

The quoted is exactly sort of how I've been understanding the framing of all of this. They said that at the Big Twelve Pro Day the year before Tyrone Tracy blew everybody away in his start/stop acceleration/deceleration times and that Jacory blew away Tracy. So I think that's a huge part of his appeal. That doesn't mean he blows Rodriguez away as an overall back and they'll probably spell each other depending.

 

[King of the Jungle]

They want more explosion. JCM’s start/stop ability is unique…

Don't sweat questioning what I was saying and trying to get its context and point. It's very cool. I'm just gunshy.

The quoted is exactly sort of how I've been understanding the framing of all of this. They said that at the Big Twelve Pro Day the year before Tyrone Tracy blew everybody away in his start/stop acceleration/deceleration times and that Jacory blew away Tracy. So I think that's a huge part of his appeal. That doesn't mean he blows Rodriguez away as an overall back and they'll probably spell each other depending.

Rodriguez got fairly lucky with that hole, and looked ok but unspectacular with his remaining carries. I think he is a good depth back, but not a starter. JCM gives you a chance to give the explosive ground plays without Daniels having to do it (saving the wear and tear and adding an explosive element). I think he has a good shot to lead the backfield in touches if he stays healthy and is able to get protections down. Tough to project rookies, but JCM has a nice starter kit for this offense and its needs.

 

[DonFue]

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Rodriguez did not score a TD. He has looked good in his opportunities…but went for 58% of budget in one of my leagues. Deep rosters

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.

Good points all around. I just don't agree with the current Bill >>>>>>>Chris paradigm. Much closer to Bill = Chris.

Agree. Bill = Chris.
This situation reminds me of TB RBBC from 2024, except Daniels is also in the mix.

The TB RBBC that lead to Bucky being a solid weekly starter? Ok, I'll take that for Bill.

Or Chris, or neither (more likely) is my only "not-dieing-on-this-hill" opinion.

Jump-cuts look really good when nobody is tackling.

Ok. I'm dieing on this hill.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Rodriguez did not score a TD. He has looked good in his opportunities…but went for 58% of budget in one of my leagues. Deep rosters

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.

Good points all around. I just don't agree with the current Bill >>>>>>>Chris paradigm. Much closer to Bill = Chris.

Agree. Bill = Chris.
This situation reminds me of TB RBBC from 2024, except Daniels is also in the mix.

The TB RBBC that lead to Bucky being a solid weekly starter? Ok, I'll take that for Bill.

Or Chris, or neither (more likely) is my only "not-dieing-on-this-hill" opinion.

Jump-cuts look really good when nobody is tackling.

Ok. I'm dieing on this hill.

Sorry if I missed it, but who do you think leads this backfield this year (Ekeler)?

 

[FarFromHome]

Prolly not very popular opinion in this thread, but the second Robinson gets traded or cut id personally try to cash in on this guys value. It would be the highest it's gonna get in my opinion. Sell. Sell. Sell..

 

[King of the Jungle]

Prolly not very popular opinion in this thread, but the second Robinson gets traded or cut id personally try to cash in on this guys value. It would be the highest it's gonna get in my opinion. Sell. Sell. Sell..

FA pickup or just too much RBBC?

 

[FarFromHome]

Prolly not very popular opinion in this thread, but the second Robinson gets traded or cut id personally try to cash in on this guys value. It would be the highest it's gonna get in my opinion. Sell. Sell. Sell..

FA pickup or just too much RBBC?

The infamous RBBC. That offense is gonna be good so the potential is there. Just don't see any of them running away with anything. Only thing i believe for sure is Ekeler would be the receiving back. Then who knows. imo.

 

[steelwind]

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Rodriguez did not score a TD. He has looked good in his opportunities…but went for 58% of budget in one of my leagues. Deep rosters

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.

Bill: 27yd TD, 10 other carries: 19yds, plays 2nd drive with JJohnson, plays into 3rd quarter

Chris: 40yd TD, 5 other carries: 22yds, plays 1st drive with JDaniels, plays into 2nd quarter

JCM allowed them to get rid of Robinson bc he completes the committee. This just got out of hand.

Other obvious RBBC guys have gone at the spot JCM is going now all summer. Giants guys, Jaguars guys, Browns guys. The difference is JCM plays on a great offense instead of a terrible one. At minimum he should be ahead of Etienne, Skattebo, Sampson, etc who are in the boat you described but for teams that won't score.

Good points all around. I just don't agree with the current Bill >>>>>>>Chris paradigm. Much closer to Bill = Chris.

Agree. Bill = Chris.
This situation reminds me of TB RBBC from 2024, except Daniels is also in the mix.

The TB RBBC that lead to Bucky being a solid weekly starter? Ok, I'll take that for Bill.

Or Chris, or neither (more likely) is my only "not-dieing-on-this-hill" opinion.

Jump-cuts look really good when nobody is tackling.

Ok. I'm dieing on this hill.

Sorry if I missed it, but who do you think leads this backfield this year (Ekeler)?

I think it’s Ekeler.
Late year Merritt emerges.
Commanders are a playoff team. Need to protect Daniels. Ekeler is the guy and I am drafting accordingly.
It’s my belief so I’m doing me.

 

[rockaction]

Prolly not very popular opinion in this thread, but the second Robinson gets traded or cut id personally try to cash in on this guys value. It would be the highest it's gonna get in my opinion. Sell. Sell. Sell..

Yeah, you're looking to shoot the moon with this because very few people are going to give a pick that won't need many of the same things to happen in order for him to be relevant. JCM has those obstacles removed (for now). He's got a chance. You're not dumping that for a third-round pick or something like it.

 

[rockaction]

Remember when James Robinson caused havoc at the 2020 East-West Shrine Game with a 63-yard scamper to put the West on top in the fourth quarter? He'd go on to sign with Jax as UDFA and star for a year or two with Jacksonville. I specifically remember them publicly and famously releasing Leonard Fournette because of Robinson's performance in camp. Jacory Croskey-Merritt won the MVP of the East-West Shrine Game and just displaced Brian Robinson. Let's give this a minute before we pronounce him buried.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

They are not going to try and protect their golden arm QB with a 7th round rookie, at best he would see his playing time increase perhaps the 2nd half of the season
They are not going to just line up JCM and anoint him the starter IMHO
I understand he's outplayed the other 2 RBs from last year in camp but when Week 1 hits and they want to run their playbook form last year, I think one of the vets is likely to be the starter
For a while at least

 

[barackdhouse]

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

I also think it's really really important to point out that when a 7th round pick (presumably) earned this kind of role, it was because his play during camp so far has been so good as to demand it. 2nd rounders that don't flash will still get chances for a while. 7th rounders don't get to this spot, again presumably, unless their play has been absolutely outstanding and have shown they're ready.

And if their play has been absolutely outstanding, and they have that athletic profile, it's lights out and the sky's the limit IMO. This situation only happens when the guy is a gem and has 'taken' the role. Seems he has. And enough to force a trade/cut situation with Robinson. I find it incredibly hard to believe they would be doing what they're doing with BR if JCM hadn't blown up like this. If he was an average 7th round ho hum in camp on limited reps none of this would be happening. I just have to think it's because he's the real deal.

 

[Ray Barboni]

I think this also means that Deebo is going to be a bigger part of the offense - than we thought he was going to be a month ago.

He can obviously take snaps at RB. Him and Ekler could almost be interchangeable depending on yardage and down.

I view “Bill” and Chris Rodriguez as the commanders way of replacing Robinson.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think this also means that Deebo is going to be a bigger part of the offense - than we thought he was going to be a month ago.

He can obviously take snaps at RB. Him and Ekler could almost be interchangeable depending on yardage and down.

I view “Bill” and Chris Rodriguez as the commanders way of replacing Robinson.

Good call, they didn't bring him in to duplicate what he's been doing in SF the last couple seasons, they want production to help Jayden Daniels
It's also possible that Daniels is a better QB than Purdy and might be able to do more with Deebo

 

[Ray Barboni]

I think this also means that Deebo is going to be a bigger part of the offense - than we thought he was going to be a month ago.

He can obviously take snaps at RB. Him and Ekler could almost be interchangeable depending on yardage and down.

I view “Bill” and Chris Rodriguez as the commanders way of replacing Robinson.

Good call, they didn't bring him in to duplicate what he's been doing in SF the last couple seasons, they want production to help Jayden Daniels
It's also possible that Daniels is a better QB than Purdy and might be able to do more with Deebo

Don’t you dare talk about my boy Purdy that way!!

But seriously, yes, defenses will not be able to scheme for him the way they did with Purdy. Too many eyes will be on JD in the backfield.

 

[barackdhouse]

I think this also means that Deebo is going to be a bigger part of the offense - than we thought he was going to be a month ago.

He can obviously take snaps at RB. Him and Ekler could almost be interchangeable depending on yardage and down.

I view “Bill” and Chris Rodriguez as the commanders way of replacing Robinson.

I think they anticipate there being more backs available after cuts that they have their eyes on already. They're gonna have to if they cut Robinson.

Speaking of which, what is the process for picking him up, or other cut players? It's different in that in-between period between cut day and week 1, than it is during the regular season, is that correct? Asking anyone. During this next period prior to week 1, it's just first come first serve to the highest bidder that the player and agent agree to, no?

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

I also think it's really really important to point out that when a 7th round pick (presumably) earned this kind of role, it was because his play during camp so far has been so good as to demand it. 2nd rounders that don't flash will still get chances for a while. 7th rounders don't get to this spot, again presumably, unless their play has been absolutely outstanding and have shown they're ready.

And if their play has been absolutely outstanding, and they have that athletic profile, it's lights out and the sky's the limit IMO. This situation only happens when the guy is a gem and has 'taken' the role. Seems he has. And enough to force a trade/cut situation with Robinson. I find it incredibly hard to believe they would be doing what they're doing with BR if JCM hadn't blown up like this. If he was an average 7th round ho hum in camp on limited reps none of this would be happening. I just have to think it's because he's the real deal.

Not to overlook the fact he played one game last year in college due to ineligibility. He stayed on the practice squad to continue to get reps. I think had he played a full season last year he would have been drafted quite a bit higher. Tested well and nailed Senior Bowl. Not sure what other teams were concerned about. It was a deep class at the position and teams being pretty risk-averse may have played a role in his drop. Pacheco-like ascension is a possibility.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dan Quinn essentially confirms the Commanders are moving on from Brian Robinson Jr.

The Commanders reportedly are shopping running back Brian Robinson Jr.

www.nbcsports.com

-I really didn't know it had gotten this bad with BRob

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Just so you can see what he's done thus far

Ekeler only had 77 carries last season and I believe he missed 5 games but still that's not a lot
Who is going to carry the football there? It's not going to be Ekeler, he's more for 3rd down and passing situations which will be often this year

 

[King of the Jungle]

Dan Quinn essentially confirms the Commanders are moving on from Brian Robinson Jr.

The Commanders reportedly are shopping running back Brian Robinson Jr.

www.nbcsports.com

-I really didn't know it had gotten this bad with BRob

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Checkout the latest stats for Brian Robinson Jr.. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

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Just so you can see what he's done thus far

Ekeler only had 77 carries last season and I believe he missed 5 games but still that's not a lot
Who is going to carry the football there? It's not going to be Ekeler, he's more for 3rd down and passing situations which will be often this year

I cannot imagine they stay put, but save trading for Breece I think JCM ends up with the most carries this season (health considering). Not sure if that adds up to RB2 numbers, but I think he gets a shot at it as long as his protection is adequate.

 

[Boone22]

Who’s the best at Pass Protection? I’m going with “that guy”.

 

[rockaction]

One team that could be setting themselves for a disappointing season are the White Sox. The rotation is pretty trashed already. IDK about Minn, but Detroit and KC could be sleepers if their young talent comes thru.

I'm sorry, but JCM ran a 4.45 auto timed forty at the Big 12 pro day. Rodriguez ran an unofficial hand-timed 4.52 at his school's.

JCM's vertical is a 41" vert. Rodriguez has a 34" vertical. JCM has a 10'4" broad jump while Rodriguez has a 9'6".

JCM is a better athlete while Rodriguez is bigger.

I also think it's really really important to point out that when a 7th round pick (presumably) earned this kind of role, it was because his play during camp so far has been so good as to demand it. 2nd rounders that don't flash will still get chances for a while. 7th rounders don't get to this spot, again presumably, unless their play has been absolutely outstanding and have shown they're ready.

And if their play has been absolutely outstanding, and they have that athletic profile, it's lights out and the sky's the limit IMO. This situation only happens when the guy is a gem and has 'taken' the role. Seems he has. And enough to force a trade/cut situation with Robinson. I find it incredibly hard to believe they would be doing what they're doing with BR if JCM hadn't blown up like this. If he was an average 7th round ho hum in camp on limited reps none of this would be happening. I just have to think it's because he's the real deal.

Very solid. I’m trying to find out about their GM Peters and RBs for ****s and giggles.

 

[Ray Barboni]

Who’s the best at Pass Protection? I’m going with “that guy”.

I’d have to believe it’s Ekeler, Deebo, Rodriguez/Bill in that order.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I wonder if they want Gibson back. I talked to Mr. Kraft and we'll do Gibson for McLaurin straight up.

 

[FarFromHome]

I am FULLY aware it doesn't matter. I just thought it was funny. He was rated as a zero star recruit out of high school. Zero. Ha ha. Sorry. Just don't remember a zero star before.

 

[beef]

Who’s the best at Pass Protection? I’m going with “that guy”.

2024 PFF PBLK ratings:
McNichols 59.8
Robinson 46.0
Ekeler 42.3

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Remember when James Robinson caused havoc at the 2020 East-West Shrine Game with a 63-yard scamper to put the West on top in the fourth quarter? He'd go on to sign with Jax as UDFA and star for a year or two with Jacksonville. I specifically remember them publicly and famously releasing Leonard Fournette because of Robinson's performance in camp. Jacory Croskey-Merritt won the MVP of the East-West Shrine Game and just displaced Brian Robinson. Let's give this a minute before we pronounce him buried.

I don't think anyone is pronouncing him buried but I did just watch the Balloon Boy documentary and someone needs to tie the tether down.

I will probably sell where I can afford to. He could net me a pretty high draft pick for absolutely zero investment. I am of the opinion, Jayden Daniels will still get a lot of run and this is a crowded backfield even with Brian Robinson gone. It could be Rodriguez, JCM, Ekeler and Deebo sprinkling. If JCM can get you round 1 draft capital, you're a fool not to take it.

This guy's hype is out of control. He is the top thread all day here and on most fantasy forums. I would entertain anything in the range of top 14 picks for him, regardless of the team situation I am in.

 

[rockaction]

I will probably sell where I can afford to.

This guy's hype is out of control. He is the top thread all day here and on most fantasy forums. I would entertain anything in the range of top 14 picks for him, regardless of the team situation I am in.

My God if you get anywhere near that you should probably be selling. I’d be stunned if somebody offered that. I’m not saying to refuse a first-round pick. I’m saying to give the situation a week or two before we declare he lost the job to Rodriguez. This is sheesh embodied. Best of luck.

Who offered an eighth? That’s a guy you definitely want over for poker.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Dude just went 2.4 in my league’s rookie draft (non-ppr)

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

I will probably sell where I can afford to.

This guy's hype is out of control. He is the top thread all day here and on most fantasy forums. I would entertain anything in the range of top 14 picks for him, regardless of the team situation I am in.

My God if you get anywhere near that you should probably be selling. I’d be stunned if somebody offered that. I’m not saying to refuse a first-round pick. I’m saying to give the situation a week or two before we declare he lost the job to Rodriguez. This is sheesh embodied. Best of luck.

Who offered an eighth? That’s a guy you definitely want over for poker.

Just saw a trade on Reddit of TJ Warren for Merritt and a 26 1st. I think that is something I would do now but when Robinson gets released, I believe it'll be more.

 

[rockaction]

I will probably sell where I can afford to.

This guy's hype is out of control. He is the top thread all day here and on most fantasy forums. I would entertain anything in the range of top 14 picks for him, regardless of the team situation I am in.

My God if you get anywhere near that you should probably be selling. I’d be stunned if somebody offered that. I’m not saying to refuse a first-round pick. I’m saying to give the situation a week or two before we declare he lost the job to Rodriguez. This is sheesh embodied. Best of luck.

Who offered an eighth? That’s a guy you definitely want over for poker.

Just saw a trade on Reddit of TJ Warren for Merritt and a 26 1st. I think that is something I would do now but when Robinson gets released, I believe it'll be more.

That's very interesting to have not begun the year, probably never have seen the guy face pro competition, and yet insist on forking over a first for something they have no proof of him ever doing. There doesn't seem to be any prudence in that.

 

[Dez]

Just went 5.12 in a RTS $300 entry with $500K up top

 

[Da Franchise]

Dude just went 2.4 in my league’s rookie draft (non-ppr)

Yeah well that’s about right. Maybe a little higher.

 

[Da Franchise]

Just went 5.12 in a RTS $300 entry with $500K up top

And that’s too much. Well, not in a huge tourney where you need the nuts, but regular redraft, yes.

 

[skol asylum]

Just took JCM at 13.9 and Rodriguez at 14.4. Hope one hits as am light at RB.

 

[rockaction]

Rodriguez' rushing grade from PFF last year was over 90 (if you put stock in that like I do).

 

[TampaMike19]

David Montgomery ceiling here if he gets full time thunder share? Idk man

 

[barackdhouse]

ok that's funny

https://x.com/UnderdogDrafts/status/1957797197640085723

 

[RenegadeRoy]

With Robinson being moved out, this RB room feels like PHI before Barkley: the best RB to have is most likely the QB.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This is either going to be a rare find that most in your redrafts have no idea about and you draft gold to get you a playoff ticket or... it's gonna be another overhyped off season player the Shark Pool goes crazy about and then fades to the bench over the season and we start working on possible gems for next year

It ends two ways here, I'm still not sure what to make of things.
I could see Washington trading for a RB or bringing someone else in they know will be cut from another team
Feels like an incomplete backfield if they part with Robinson

What is the investment, a late round pick you would end up cutting 3 weeks into the season anyways?
It's worth examining

 

[rockaction]

I'd hate for all this guy's life's work to go to becoming a proxy for newbies/old heads or anything even remotely close to that. That would be unfortunate. Just because some insecure fools have to beat their chests or people trying to sell their expertise need to distinguish themselves in some way. Weird progression of identifying something legitimate and then ****ting on it to prove you know something. Lousy.

 

[rockaction]

This is either going to be a rare find that most in your redrafts have no idea about and you draft gold to get you a playoff ticket or... it's gonna be another overhyped off season player the Shark Pool goes crazy about and then fades to the bench over the season and we start working on possible gems for next year

It ends two ways here, I'm still not sure what to make of things.
I could see Washington trading for a RB or bringing someone else in they know will be cut from another team
Feels like an incomplete backfield if they part with Robinson

What is the investment, a late round pick you would end up cutting 3 weeks into the season anyways?
It's worth examining

Actually, I think Peters will be open to anything but I think you're really wrong. Rodriguez might be a better back than Robinson at doing what Robinson was supposed to do best. Merritt might be the lightning to switch it up or strong enough to where you want him every down because of athleticism and speed. I don't think Robinson has that many takers other than the obvious one of Dallas, but nobody knows what the heck is up with that. He was not highly regarded coming out of Alabama until the CFB playoffs where he was okay. He was there forever and never started until his last year. In fact, his 4.58 (?) forty surprised people who had been watching him because he had been one of Bama's least effective backs of the five-seven year long timespan they were measuring.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Guppy checking in. Have

Dude just went 2.4 in my league’s rookie draft (non-ppr)

Guppy checking in. Sounds like JCM is the belle of the ball of the 7th round and probably all Day 3 RBs. Waldman had a lot of love for him about a year ago. I have kept an eye peeled, but just now checking in after the B-Rob rumors. Different back, but reminds me somewhat of the Pacheco hype in August of his rookie year. I wondered then if I was nuts for thinking about moving up in the 2nd round to draft a 7th rounder. Someone else pulled the trigger in round 2 and landed a nice RB.

I have a 2.3 tonight in a 1QB with clear need for RB depth and I'm actually thinking it's not a crazy break-the-glass-case selection at #15 if these 14 are all off the board in my absolute worst-case scenario:

Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Tet, Hunter, Egbuka, Judkins, Warren, Harvey, KJ, Golden, Loveland, Burden, Skattebo.​

Hard to pass on Higgins for sure. To a slightly lesser extent, Kyle Williams, Bech, and Harris. I'm pretty set at WR and there's not much of a payday in my league if I find a WR3 at this spot. Pretty deep at TE. Could regret passing on Mason Taylor or Arroyo, but can live with the miss if they hit. Of the RBs, I would guess passing on Tuten for JCM is most controversial? But not sure there's anything crazy about that take at this point.

I'm not saying he's #15 on my draft board, but not saying he's not in an RB-heavy 1QB league. I can say he's not in my top-13 with confidence

Congrats to everyone that hit in rookie drafts with normal schedules.

 

[rockaction]

Congrats to everyone that hit in rookie drafts with normal schedules.

There are real drawbacks to following this year-round and reading a ton of articles by analysts and then drafting in August. There just are. That said, drafting a week after the NFL Draft has its own knowledge limitations. I think you're always going to butt up against a knowledge problem. They're just different types.

I can't really say who you should pass on or not. I do note that I'm noticing that people seem worried they'll overdraft him and part of it seems motivated by this industry and the "guppy" tag. The people using the guppy tag aren't starting these threads in March and arguing with people like me in good faith in April. I know who is making these comments, and I can assure you they fail miserably at getting the respect they crave by doing so. It's as Mav and Goose say to the civvy airwoman . . . their experience of themselves is . . . inverted. Ignore them. Even the guys in the industry. Have caution, but pick your team.

I can tell you that I had James Robinson on my roster when he broke, but it was because I took an orphan and my roster sucked. If it was stacked, I never would have added him for a buck through waivers two weeks before they cut Fournette. Even in my dynasty infancy, I knew that was a joke and that the planets aligned. It was heck of a lot of fun to watch he and Miles Gaskin go for over twenty points each a few weeks later on Monday Night Football.

Don't let people take your love and ebullience for this away. They're ironists and killjoys and they're not fun nor really bright in ways where bright people are attuned to the rhythms and probabilities life presents.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Picked him up for almost nothing. I just need him to have a good week so I can trade high.

 

[Marauder]

Bill was my most drafted player in FFPC rookie drafts back in May. I was consistently taking him in the 5th round. Now I'm thinking that I should try flipping him in some leagues, especially where I have tough cut downs. If I can get a 2026 second, that's a pretty nice profit.

 

[barackdhouse]

Bill was my most drafted player in FFPC rookie drafts back in May. I was consistently taking him in the 5th round. Now I'm thinking that I should try flipping him in some leagues, especially where I have tough cut downs. If I can get a 2026 second, that's a pretty nice profit.

I mean... I'm your huckleberry. What can we add to the mix?