RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, WAS (20 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Right? And then the guy in front of them signs an extension...thus prolonging their chance. And the fact that more and more teams just want "bodies" to rotate...especially veteran bodies. The younger guys seem to get faded out.

And then you have teams like the Browns, who are somehow desperately searching for a RB. Meanwhile WAS is yelling into a bullhorn “COME AND GET BROB! BROBS FOR SALE!”

Browns are a mess.

 

[Da Franchise]

My biggest concern about his value is wondering what’s going to happen near the end zone. I feel like Rodriguez will be the short yardage and goal line back, at least at first. Bill is going to have to be really good to get those carries IMO.

And maybe he will be. I think the team views him as the primary back for early downs and between the 20s. Problem is that role is the least beneficial for fantasy production. It locks in his floor, but puts a low ceiling on things. In the 9/10 rounds, I got no problem with that and would take him over the other backs available in that range easily. If he pops early, he could takeover the more valuable touches, too. Thats how he blows out his ADP and it’s certainly within the range of realistic outcomes.

 

[steelwind]

This is why no matter what metrics you throw out there in terms of player athleticism, it's all about how they are being used.

"Commanders head coach Dan Quinn indicated Chris Rodriguez Jr. is “likely” to handle short-yardage and goal-line rushing duties.
Beat reporter Ben Standig thankfully posed the question with fantasy managers in mind. Quinn complimented Rodriguez’s short-area tackle-breaking ability because it suits the Commanders’ “untraditional” tactic of not using a lead blocker in short-yardage situations. Jacory Croskey-Merritt is still in the hunt for lead back duties but if Rodriguez is set to assume short-yardage duties while Austin Ekeler plays on passing downs, the starter could be left with empty calorie touches between the 20s. Croskey-Merritt is a talented, young player but keep in mind, a wide range of outcomes is in play. Rodriguez makes for a worthwhile bench stash given Quinn’s comments."

This is now a 5 headed RBBC:

Daniels
Ekeler
Rodriguez
Merritt
Samuel

I'm out.

 

[socrates]

This is why no matter what metrics you throw out there in terms of player ability, it's all about how they are being used.

"Commanders head coach Dan Quinn indicated Chris Rodriguez Jr. is “likely” to handle short-yardage and goal-line rushing duties.
Beat reporter Ben Standig thankfully posed the question with fantasy managers in mind. Quinn complimented Rodriguez’s short-area tackle-breaking ability because it suits the Commanders’ “untraditional” tactic of not using a lead blocker in short-yardage situations. Jacory Croskey-Merritt is still in the hunt for lead back duties but if Rodriguez is set to assume short-yardage duties while Austin Ekeler plays on passing downs, the starter could be left with empty calorie touches between the 20s. Croskey-Merritt is a talented, young player but keep in mind, a wide range of outcomes is in play. Rodriguez makes for a worthwhile bench stash given Quinn’s comments."

This is now a 5 headed RBBC:

Daniels
Ekeler
Rodriguez
Merritt
Samuel

I'm out.

I understand your concern; there are, as you say, a wide range of outcomes for Croskey Merritt. However, there is one less mouth to feed in Washington with Robinson out of the equation, and he was always the biggest obstacle. I am not going to worry as much about an aging Ekeler and a player the Commanders waived, stashed on their Practice Squad, promoted, waived and signed again to their Practice Squad last season. I am not expecting a Saquon-like workload for Croskey-Merritt, but every RB in the NFL has multiple backs behind him. Ekeler and Rodriguez do not concern me much. If Croskey-Merritt performs, he will get plenty of volume.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

be. I think the team views him as the primary back for early downs and between the 20s

I wish we knew that for sure.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is now a 5 headed RBBC:

Daniels
Ekeler
Rodriguez
Merritt
Samuel

Wow, that’s a mess. And that’s assuming BRob is gone, which he may or may not be.

 

[ffmail4me]

Watched an interview with Bill today, he's a really likable dude, very humble, so excited for the opportunity. He is saying everything right. I love this kid.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is why no matter what metrics you throw out there in terms of player athleticism, it's all about how they are being used.

"Commanders head coach Dan Quinn indicated Chris Rodriguez Jr. is “likely” to handle short-yardage and goal-line rushing duties.
Beat reporter Ben Standig thankfully posed the question with fantasy managers in mind. Quinn complimented Rodriguez’s short-area tackle-breaking ability because it suits the Commanders’ “untraditional” tactic of not using a lead blocker in short-yardage situations. Jacory Croskey-Merritt is still in the hunt for lead back duties but if Rodriguez is set to assume short-yardage duties while Austin Ekeler plays on passing downs, the starter could be left with empty calorie touches between the 20s. Croskey-Merritt is a talented, young player but keep in mind, a wide range of outcomes is in play. Rodriguez makes for a worthwhile bench stash given Quinn’s comments."

This is now a 5 headed RBBC:

Daniels
Ekeler
Rodriguez
Merritt
Samuel

I'm out.

@barackdhouse - your thoughts?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I haven't read this thread and I might skim but could someone get me up to speed? I get there is opportunity here but he was a 7th round pick. Why? Are we just saying that all but 1 team wiffed on him?

Dude took him 1.14 in my dynasty draft.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but he was a 7th round pick. Why?

Reportedly had an injury that kept him out in college.

My bad - intelligible.

 

[TripItUp]

I haven't read this thread and I might skim but could someone get me up to speed? I get there is opportunity here but he was a 7th round pick. Why? Are we just saying that all but 1 team wiffed on him?

Dude took him 1.14 in my dynasty draft.

He has opportunity for a large portion of the workload. Coaches are raving about him.

1.14 is too high.

 

[socrates]

but he was a 7th round pick. Why?

Reportedly had an injury that kept him out in college.

He transferred from New Mexico to Arizona last season, played one game, then he was determined ineligible. At the East-West Shrine Bowl, JCM was a beast and looked like the best RB on the field. His testing numbers are excellent. He doesn't have the body of work, despite being a 24 year old rookie, so there is a bit of a leap of faith required with Croskey-Merritt, but the eligibility issue had nothing to do with off-field issues or academics.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He transferred from New Mexico to Arizona last season, played one game, then he was determined ineligible. At the East-West Shrine Bowl, JCM was a beast and looked like the best RB on the field. His testing numbers are excellent. He doesn't have the body of work, despite being a 24 year old rookie, so there is a bit of a leap of faith required with Croskey-Merritt, but the eligibility issue had nothing to do with off-field issues or academics

Ah ineligible, thank you.

 

[Terpman22]

RB ranking right now, my latest abridged version, I'm having trouble ranking this guy beyond RB27 at this point, am I nuts? Just too much writing on the wall for this guy not to be heavily involved this year, despite said lack of body of work and all that stuff.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

RB ranking right now, my latest abridged version, I'm having trouble ranking this guy beyond RB27 at this point, am I nuts? Just too much writing on the wall for this guy not to be heavily involved this year, despite said lack of body of work and all that stuff.

By ADP he’s RB40 over the last 5 days of ROC drafts in NFFC.

Current RB27 by draft pick is AJones, and the next 10 are:

28. Tracy
29. Warren
30. Mason
31. ETN
32. Charbs
33. Dobbins
34. Mixon
35. judkins
36. BRob
37. JaWill

With Benson 38th

I’m probably a buyer on Charbs, Mason, Warren, Tracy, and possibly Benson over JCM, but you’re not wildly off at 27. I have him 32 of that ADP.

 

[kwille]

Sounds about right to me. Puts him in RB3 range. I'd prefer him as a RB4 given the unusual situation but the offense is going to be great and he's likely going to be a significant part of it.

 

[Terpman22]

RB ranking right now, my latest abridged version, I'm having trouble ranking this guy beyond RB27 at this point, am I nuts? Just too much writing on the wall for this guy not to be heavily involved this year, despite said lack of body of work and all that stuff.

By ADP he’s RB40 over the last 5 days of ROC drafts in NFFC.

Current RB27 by draft pick is AJones, and the next 10 are:

28. Tracy
29. Warren
30. Mason
31. ETN
32. Charbs
33. Dobbins
34. Mixon
35. judkins
36. BRob
37. JaWill

With Benson 38th

I’m probably a buyer on Charbs, Mason, Warren, Tracy, and possibly Benson over JCM, but you’re not wildly off at 27. I have him 32 of that ADP.

Judkins at 35 is insane, Robinson is about to be cut, Charbs I get, Mason sure, I got Tracy way way higher

I guess I am crazy haha

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

RB ranking right now, my latest abridged version, I'm having trouble ranking this guy beyond RB27 at this point, am I nuts? Just too much writing on the wall for this guy not to be heavily involved this year, despite said lack of body of work and all that stuff.

By ADP he’s RB40 over the last 5 days of ROC drafts in NFFC.

Current RB27 by draft pick is AJones, and the next 10 are:

28. Tracy
29. Warren
30. Mason
31. ETN
32. Charbs
33. Dobbins
34. Mixon
35. judkins
36. BRob
37. JaWill

With Benson 38th

I’m probably a buyer on Charbs, Mason, Warren, Tracy, and possibly Benson over JCM, but you’re not wildly off at 27. I have him 32 of that ADP.

Judkins at 35 is insane, Robinson is about to be cut, Charbs I get, Mason sure, I got Tracy way way higher

I guess I am crazy haha

These aren’t rankings, it’s just the average of where folks have drafted them over the last 5 days.

 

[ffmail4me]

People have to get past the draft capitol. Several times Adam Peters has found talent later in the drafts (Kittle, Purdy most recent) and Terrel Davis was a monster (6th rounder but still) I think he passes the eye test, and has the opportunity in front of him in a very good offense that goes for it on 4th down more than any other team. There is a LOT to like here. And I think to protect Daniels, we won't see Jayden doing many goal line rushes, that's going to come to Bill or Chris IMO.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

People have to get past the draft capitol. Several times Adam Peters has found talent later in the drafts (Kittle, Purdy most recent) and Terrel Davis was a monster (6th rounder but still) I think he passes the eye test, and has the opportunity in front of him in a very good offense that goes for it on 4th down more than any other team. There is a LOT to like here. And I think to protect Daniels, we won't see Jayden doing many goal line rushes, that's going to come to Bill or Chris IMO.

I’m not at all concerned with his draft capital.

I am concerned about the fact that there’s only 1 football, BRob is still on the team, and Deebo, Eke, Rodriguez, JCM, and possibly BRob will all be competing for touches of it. Oh yeah, and a rushing QB.

Just feels like the hype train is going a little off the rails for such a crowded backfield is all.

 

[Da Franchise]

People have to get past the draft capitol. Several times Adam Peters has found talent later in the drafts (Kittle, Purdy most recent) and Terrel Davis was a monster (6th rounder but still) I think he passes the eye test, and has the opportunity in front of him in a very good offense that goes for it on 4th down more than any other team. There is a LOT to like here. And I think to protect Daniels, we won't see Jayden doing many goal line rushes, that's going to come to Bill or Chris IMO.

I’m not at all concerned with his draft capital.

I am concerned about the fact that there’s only 1 football, BRob is still on the team, and Deebo, Eke, Rodriguez, JCM, and possibly BRob will all be competing for touches of it. Oh yeah, and a rushing QB.

Just feels like the hype train is going a little off the rails for such a crowded backfield is all.

You can forget about BRob. There is a 0.0% chance he returns. The rest is valid.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I get the "well just because he was drafted in the 7th round doesn't mean he's a 7th round talent!" Yes, there have been plenty of late round picks that have done well and maybe he will. A 3rd/14th round draft pick on him isn't insane but sometimes a 7th rounder is a 7th rounder

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

 

[King of the Jungle]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

If I had a talented rookie entering a room with an aging Ekeler and Chris Rodriguez I would say it is a good scenario. Up to JCM at this point. Name another backfield that has a better entry?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

If I had a talented rookie entering a room with an aging Ekeler and Chris Rodriguez I would say it is a good scenario. Up to JCM at this point. Name another backfield that has a better entry?

No saying the logic isn’t sound. As a community we’ve guessed wrong before.

 

[King of the Jungle]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

If I had a talented rookie entering a room with an aging Ekeler and Chris Rodriguez I would say it is a good scenario. Up to JCM at this point. Name another backfield that has a better entry?

No saying the logic isn’t sound. As a community we’ve guessed wrong before.

Of course, but a late round gem in that room is a nice lotto ticket. You know as well as I, there are no guarantees. Hold and be happy if you got late/cheap and see what happens.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

If I had a talented rookie entering a room with an aging Ekeler and Chris Rodriguez I would say it is a good scenario. Up to JCM at this point. Name another backfield that has a better entry?

No saying the logic isn’t sound. As a community we’ve guessed wrong before.

Of course, but a late round gem in that room is a nice lotto ticket. You know as well as I, there are no guarantees. Hold and be happy if you got late/cheap and see what happens.

I have a dynasty share - 17.11 of a start-up, thanks to this forum.

9th round redraft is kinda not that late though. Too much buzz. Woulda been better if he didn't have that 27 yard TD. Bill's makin too much noise.
I like my sleepers sleepy.

 

[King of the Jungle]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

If I had a talented rookie entering a room with an aging Ekeler and Chris Rodriguez I would say it is a good scenario. Up to JCM at this point. Name another backfield that has a better entry?

No saying the logic isn’t sound. As a community we’ve guessed wrong before.

Of course, but a late round gem in that room is a nice lotto ticket. You know as well as I, there are no guarantees. Hold and be happy if you got late/cheap and see what happens.

I have a dynasty share - 17.11 of a start-up, thanks to this forum.

9th round redraft is kinda not that late though. Too much buzz. Woulda been better if he didn't have that 27 yard TD. Bill's makin too much noise.
I like my sleepers sleepy.

If we are being honest had Bill ran 4-6yds with Rodriguez's production he probably falls back to late rounds. This is what the preseason does to us. Rod’s 40 yarder was one of the easier 40 yard runs I have ever seen. Not taking anything away from Rod as a player, but that run does not move the needle for me much. JCM brings the potential of chunk plays to the offense with his ability, I do not see the same level of that ability with anyone else on the roster.

 

[Da Franchise]

There is a 0.0% chance he returns

Ok, so that still leaves a rather sizable committee and zero clarity on how the touches are divided.

If I had a talented rookie entering a room with an aging Ekeler and Chris Rodriguez I would say it is a good scenario. Up to JCM at this point. Name another backfield that has a better entry?

No saying the logic isn’t sound. As a community we’ve guessed wrong before.

Of course, but a late round gem in that room is a nice lotto ticket. You know as well as I, there are no guarantees. Hold and be happy if you got late/cheap and see what happens.

I have a dynasty share - 17.11 of a start-up, thanks to this forum.

9th round redraft is kinda not that late though. Too much buzz. Woulda been better if he didn't have that 27 yard TD. Bill's makin too much noise.
I like my sleepers sleepy.

It sounds like you’ll be out on him and that’s cool. I only have one draft upcoming and it’s a really old school scoring system. No PPR. You get 3 points if they hit 80 yards rushing or receiving, not combined, and another 3 points at 100. TDs are 6. He’s going to go way to early for me in this format as someone will probably reach around round like 7/8. I’ll be more interested in Rodríguez.

For a regular PPR league though, 9th round seems reasonable. He’s going to have a lot of empty calories touches early, but not many bring his upside at that stage of a draft.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It sounds like you’ll be out on him and that’s cool.

Not saying that. I draft in just over 7 mins. Depends on the board.

I’m saying I’d like taking the risk more if he were a little later. Just pointing out that the 9th isn’t the late rounds. It’s not even halfway in a ROC draft.

But that’s his price now. I don’t love it, but thats not saying I’m out.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Middle of a ROC draft. JCM 7.10

Cmon man

 

[Da Franchise]

Middle of a ROC draft. JCM 7.10

Cmon man

Who else was available?

 

[Ilov80s]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

 

[King of the Jungle]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Middle of a ROC draft. JCM 7.10

Cmon man

Who else was available?

It was the 7th round. Erryone was available!

 

[Da Franchise]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

Agreed. Even if you squint and like him better than the RBs there, gotta be a boatload of WRs I’d rather have. Guessing this was a zero RB build. I suppose if it’s a huge contest where you need the nuts I can understand but it’s a moonshot.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

B-an-ananas

 

[Da Franchise]

Middle of a ROC draft. JCM 7.10

Cmon man

Who else was available?

It was the 7th round. Erryone was available!

We need a name. Give us a name!

 

[menobrown]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

B-an-ananas

The FFPC Big Gorilla has ADP on 46 drafts from the last two days and someone threw down $350 to draft him at 3.11.

 

[FarFromHome]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

B-an-ananas

The FFPC Big Gorilla has ADP on 46 drafts from the last two days and someone threw down $350 to draft him at 3.11.

This just seems like crazy talk. Im gonna take some heat, but if I was in a million dollar league I see maybe 35 other rbs id take before him in redraft leagues. ***Ducks head***

 

[Ilov80s]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

B-an-ananas

The FFPC Big Gorilla has ADP on 46 drafts from the last two days and someone threw down $350 to draft him at 3.11.

This just seems like crazy talk. Im gonna take some heat, but if I was in a million dollar league I see maybe 35 other rbs id take before him in redraft leagues. ***Ducks head***

To be fair this league involves no money and is simply for bragging rights/fun

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

someone threw down $350 to draft him at 3.11.

Holeeeeeeeee smokes

 

[fatness]

"Commanders head coach Dan Quinn indicated Chris Rodriguez Jr. is “likely” to handle short-yardage and goal-line rushing duties.
Beat reporter Ben Standig thankfully posed the question with fantasy managers in mind. Quinn complimented Rodriguez’s short-area tackle-breaking ability because it suits the Commanders’ “untraditional” tactic of not using a lead blocker in short-yardage situations.

I wonder why the Commanders don't use a lead blocker.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We need a name. Give us a name!

As it turns out my draft was the Sirius draft of the week, so I think you can go watch me miss on every RB I wanted for 8 rounds after having what felt like the perfect start to my draft with Jeanty 1.10, London 2.03, McBride 3.03, Worthy 4.10, and Jamo 5.03


And to be fair, there was a massive run on RB early, including team 1.01, who at one point had 5 RB, 2 QB and a TE before taking his 3rd WR, Romeo Doubs in at 11.12 - people try weird things in ROC drafts, and that was certainly a different strategy.

I couldn’t resist McBride at 3.03. That was where I should have taken Hampton and waited on a TE. Then none of Pacheco, Warren, or Monty made it to me after my Mahomes pick.


So unless my Hero RB build pays off with a hit or two it might be my undoing.

It was basically the opposite of my draft yesterday where it rained value RB on me. I kept not wanting to reach for RBs & it shows.

Anyway, y’all can go see how bad my team is if you have Sirius. I had no idea until they mentioned it in the draft room. And you can see what was taken after JCM, if you’re curious.

I still think 7.10 was early.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

"Commanders head coach Dan Quinn indicated Chris Rodriguez Jr. is “likely” to handle short-yardage and goal-line rushing duties.
Beat reporter Ben Standig thankfully posed the question with fantasy managers in mind. Quinn complimented Rodriguez’s short-area tackle-breaking ability because it suits the Commanders’ “untraditional” tactic of not using a lead blocker in short-yardage situations.

I wonder why the Commanders don't use a lead blocker.

that’s interesting. Maybe to create misdirection with their rushing QB & gadget plays to Deebo? Or if they gave Eke + JCM or Rodriguez on the field together?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I hate to point this out but people are discussing ADP and some of the bigger tournaments will have a lot of sharks, much higher ADP
I think in most local leagues that "Bill" will fall much further, I doubt people are keeping up on him hourly like the Shark Pool

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I hate to point this out but people are discussing ADP and some of the bigger tournaments will have a lot of sharks, much higher ADP
I think in most local leagues that "Bill" will fall much further, I doubt people are keeping up on him hourly like the Shark Pool

I mentioned that upthread, but I find 7.10 to be a pretty big swing. Especially considering yesterday he went 9.07 in my other draft.

3.any is preposterous to me. Even if the dude IS better than Cook or Hampton (which I'm a bit skeptical of), it's kind of a wasted pick because they could take Hampton, then still reach by a round for JCM in the 6th and have both.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

In the one place I have him, I updated my trade bait to just him with a "who wants Bill?" So far, no traffic at the storefront.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In the one place I have him, I updated my trade bait to just him with a "who wants Bill?" So far, no traffic at the storefront.

You’d think with the crazy value spike we’re seeing you’d be flooded with crazy overpay offers.

trying to think of the last player to see this much of a bump this fast who wasn’t ascending into a featured role.

 

[BlackCrowes]

He went 5th round in a recent FBG draft

That is bananas.

B-an-ananas

The FFPC Big Gorilla has ADP on 46 drafts from the last two days and someone threw down $350 to draft him at 3.11.

come on