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RB Jaleel McLaughlin, DEN (2 Viewers)
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I was thinking more like Spaceballs
He's an interesting guy, especially if Perine doesn't make the team (which I think is 50-50) but until then, I'd call him a low-end RB4, similar to someone like Antonio Gibson.
Ideally Denver can make it down to being a 2-man RBBC, with Williams and McLaughlin, with Estime being Williams direct backup, and McLaughlin playing 3rd downs and changing the pace. Maybe a 40% snap share?
massraider
Footballguy
Every Run/Catch/Target from 2023
I own McLaughlin in 2/3 leagues (it'll be 3/3 after Sunday), and I barely remember seeing him last year. Backup RB for the Broncos during a disaster season, who was paying attention?
I like him a lot. Watching that video:
- Not a lot of manufactured receptions. He was left hanging on a lot of dump passes, rather than plays designed to get him the ball with a plan for some YAC.
- When he was able to manufacture YAC, I didn't see many missed chances. Felt like the speed with which he caught the ball, and moved into ball carrier mode was really good.
- His worst runs were the constant toss sweeps. Up the gut, whether a crowded box or not, I thought he looked great. Quick moves, decisive, up the field. Up the gut, he looked like Jamaal Charles. Doesn't appear to have long speed, I don't care. Lot of receiving backs can't go 70 yards.
I think he has a really safe floor, unlike some guys like Edwards, Chandler, Gibson, etc that are in his range.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I don't love Williams which is why I took McLaughlin late. Does anyone think he will carve out a role in the Broncos O?
hamsterdam
Footballguy
Many are thinking McLaughlin is going to have the famed "joker" role in Payton's offense, me included.
I think it's either going to be him or Dulcich, so I've been taking them both to try and lock it down as it's been a productive position in the past.
massraider
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In his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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Smack Tripper
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saw this tweet last night and was VERY illuminating... must draft at cost hearing this... Round 11-12, gotta have himIn his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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I like Jaleel but we're talking Darren Sproles here. Think there is some context to that stat.saw this tweet last night and was VERY illuminating... must draft at cost hearing this... Round 11-12, gotta have himIn his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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Smack Tripper
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Sproles was a very good player, and I see a comp with McLaughlin in terms of speed and size, sproles always seemed to get loose. Somwhile true McLaughlin has to prove himself, there’s a lot of philosophy for us to embrace as drafters at this point in the draft.I like Jaleel but we're talking Darren Sproles here. Think there is some context to that stat.saw this tweet last night and was VERY illuminating... must draft at cost hearing this... Round 11-12, gotta have himIn his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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Both my ten teams he’s still on waivers. But have him on two 12s. I’m wondering how this will play out. The Payton stat is pretty wild.saw this tweet last night and was VERY illuminating... must draft at cost hearing this... Round 11-12, gotta have himIn his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I think it ties into your build, appetite and needs. I think it depends on your league tooBoth my ten teams he’s still on waivers. But have him on two 12s. I’m wondering how this will play out. The Payton stat is pretty wild.saw this tweet last night and was VERY illuminating... must draft at cost hearing this... Round 11-12, gotta have himIn his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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I'll say this, his ceiling is high end RB2, but I think more projectable as a low end RB2, he will never be an RB1
But a serviceable RB2 in my main league, very competitive, a guy you can plug in on bye weeks, is very useful.
However, you may miss out on the home run handcuffs who do have RB1 potential (Bucky, Ray Davis, Wright) at that point in the draft.
Maybe this time of year is the year to swing for the fences.
Cowboysfan8
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I’ ve drafted 2 squads so far with 2 more to go this weekend. I’ve gotten him both times so far for next to nothingIn his 18-year history as an NFL head coach, Sean Payton's RB2 (RB who *did not* lead backfield in carries) has averaged >16.5 FPG five times. (For perspective, Travis Etienne ranked as the RB7 last year with 16.4 FPG.) Collectively across all 18 seasons, Payton's RB2 averages 13.8 FPG. (For perspective, James Cook ranked as the RB19 last year with 13.9 FPG.)
Last year, behind Javonte Williams, Jaleel McLaughlin and Samaje Perine combined for 229.3 fantasy points. (Would have ranked 13th among all RBs.) Perine is no longer on the team.
Little known fact: Jaleel McLaughlin is literally the most productive running back in college football history.
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Of course
LawFitz
Footballguy
Just grabbed Jaleel in rd 10 in the FBG Shark Pool home league. Was sweating it for 2+ rounds every time this thread was bumped. Thought for sure @massraider's post upthread was going to mothertruck me after targeting this lil homie all summer!
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Nah...Jameson thread has been at the top of the forum for weeks with people saying the experts have him 20 spots too low yet every draft he goes in the same place.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Ya, but the difference is 12 out of 12 people in most leagues aren't in the Shark Pool.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Why didn't Jameson go in the 6th?
LawFitz
Footballguy
Read @massraider's posts and then compare and contrast the Jamo truther cases.
That said, there's a significant non-zero probability that Jamo blows up this year, while JMack blows a tire. You should look into your crystal ball and let us know which.
Stoneworker
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It's in the OP, so some of us knew it
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Stoneworker
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IMO 40-45% snap share is very realistic.
Payton has said explicitly that one of the challenges of using Jaleel last year was that after a few games he was keyed on every time he was in the game due to a high probability he would get a touch on that play. Jaleel got multiple GL carries last year so not viewed as strictly a scat back/3rd down specialist.
Agree that Estime will be strictly a backup, at least first half of season.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
As a Breece Hall owner, would you guys prioritize getting Braelon Allen?
I’m considering taking Jaleel now and hoping Braelon still makes it back to me. No chance Jaleel would make it back at our current draft location.
Pick 136 (14.6) for what it’s worth.
I’m considering taking Jaleel now and hoping Braelon still makes it back to me. No chance Jaleel would make it back at our current draft location.
Pick 136 (14.6) for what it’s worth.
massraider
Footballguy
Then I want the guy with standalone value, not waiting around for an injury.
If you thin at RB, Allen feels like a luxury you can't afford.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
It's a little hasty based on the current rankings for dynasty (top of RB5s), but I'm reclaiming this roster spot, even off of the TD.
Undrafted guy, worked his tail off. I think he got his chance to carve out a pretty big role in this backfield and didn't exactly seize the day. He's a nice player and will have a role moving forward. I'm sure he'll flash in the boxscore here and there, but I'm not sure how predictable that's going to be in lineup leagues. I play for long-term ceiling with most of these rb stashes, and the chips are always going to be stacked against an undrafted 187 pounder making it big. When they get their opportunity they have to seize it if they're going to reach fantasy difference maker thresholds of success, or so my theory goes.
Ultimately, deciding that I now like the "one injury away" ceiling for Vidal marginally better. Going against the grain keeping D. Pierce and K. Miller ahead of McLaughlin, and prioritizing Roschon with another spot. I just prefer the profile of those guys a little bit more. Fun ride while it lasted.
Undrafted guy, worked his tail off. I think he got his chance to carve out a pretty big role in this backfield and didn't exactly seize the day. He's a nice player and will have a role moving forward. I'm sure he'll flash in the boxscore here and there, but I'm not sure how predictable that's going to be in lineup leagues. I play for long-term ceiling with most of these rb stashes, and the chips are always going to be stacked against an undrafted 187 pounder making it big. When they get their opportunity they have to seize it if they're going to reach fantasy difference maker thresholds of success, or so my theory goes.
Ultimately, deciding that I now like the "one injury away" ceiling for Vidal marginally better. Going against the grain keeping D. Pierce and K. Miller ahead of McLaughlin, and prioritizing Roschon with another spot. I just prefer the profile of those guys a little bit more. Fun ride while it lasted.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Really hard to trust this backfield.
zamboni
Footballguy
For sure - Payton is playing RB musical chairs based on matchups. Can't blame him even though it drives the fantasy community nuts - seems to be working for the team.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Yep. It will vary game-to-game.
Coach Payton from last night's post-game presser:
"We felt like some of the wide zone stuff...tosses...were gonna be good. He (Jaleel) had a lot of good runs. So part of it was...a couple schemes we've seen other teams have success with...that we had success with as well...all-in-all it was good. So F- your fantasy team*"
*Note: editorial comment added by post author
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wouldn't let Javante Williams ruin my playoffs.
-jb-
Footballguy
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Need a second flex over Waddle (gross).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
condolences.
Don't under-Estime
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don’t see how you can play any Broncos RB in the playoffs.
sorry, i was joking, much like my Broncos run game.
local radio is trying to push the team to draft a RB in the first round, which is not something I think they'd do, but goes to the idea that the entire RB room ain't good
Lansdowne
Footballguy
I dropped Estime so it is 100% going to be him that goes off tomorrow. Looking to the offseason I fully expect the Broncos to draft Williams’ replacement to be the new RB1. In any event I’ve decided to get off this ride as I’m tired of Payton’s games with the RB shuffling.
