RB Jordan Mason, MIN (2 Viewers)

[Pigskin Fanatic]

You can't roster everyone you want, but I believe one of the keys to FF is to get guys like this before you have to pay out the nose.

this is why Sharkpool. thanks to all who talked about Mason. lots of times these things just end as hype. this one was on the money.

 

[cockroach]

I'd ask for a first (it'd be late), offering Mason plus a third

That's a huge pass for me right now. I feel like even if he balls out and CMC goes on IR all year, you're still taking that offer. So why would a contender do that now when the situation is still so murky? Could easily be in Kupp/Evans range w that offer (might need to toss in a prospect and/or forget the 3rd)

 

[Pots]

CMC said he is good to go for week 2. Doubt it.

He's already a proven liar.

 

[Faust]

Why Jordan Mason's breakout game wasn't a surprise to 49ers

 

[Gally]

I'd ask for a first (it'd be late), offering Mason plus a third

That's a huge pass for me right now. I feel like even if he balls out and CMC goes on IR all year, you're still taking that offer. So why would a contender do that now when the situation is still so murky? Could easily be in Kupp/Evans range w that offer (might need to toss in a prospect and/or forget the 3rd)

If I was a contender with CMC I might do that depending on my RB room.

 

[cockroach]

I'd ask for a first (it'd be late), offering Mason plus a third

That's a huge pass for me right now. I feel like even if he balls out and CMC goes on IR all year, you're still taking that offer. So why would a contender do that now when the situation is still so murky? Could easily be in Kupp/Evans range w that offer (might need to toss in a prospect and/or forget the 3rd)

If I was a contender with CMC I might do that depending on my RB room.

Yea, same, but not after 1, 2, 3 even 4 weeks. I'd rather shoot for an aging vet like Kanara rn.

 

[BespokeJort]

I'd ask for a first (it'd be late), offering Mason plus a third

That's a huge pass for me right now. I feel like even if he balls out and CMC goes on IR all year, you're still taking that offer. So why would a contender do that now when the situation is still so murky? Could easily be in Kupp/Evans range w that offer (might need to toss in a prospect and/or forget the 3rd)

If I was a contender with CMC I might do that depending on my RB room.

and if my team had any shot and you told me CMC was on season ending IR I wouldn’t sell him for that. I’m comfortable he’s a mid to high fantasy rb1 in that offense if he’s the unquestioned starter. You’d have to add to a (presumably late) first in that case

 

[cockroach]

You’d have to add to a (presumably late) first in that case

You'd ask for 2 first for him if CMC was on IR? Jets are a good defense and all but I expect the optimism on Mason to wane with a larger sample size.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

I own CMC and just offered George Pickens and Javonte Williams for Keon Coleman and Jordan Mason. I would love to be able to plug in Mason if CMC missed more games or goes down to a potential season ending injury.

 

[BespokeJort]

You’d have to add to a (presumably late) first in that case

You'd ask for 2 first for him if CMC was on IR? Jets are a good defense and all but I expect the optimism on Mason to wane with a larger sample size.

To clarify I said you’d have to add to a first, not you’d have to add another first. Saying I wouldn’t be paying Mason plus for a late first rounder in that scenario.

You might have a realistic shot at two in that case but it would very much depend who was holding what. A 1 and a 2 is probably more realistic if the scenario is they shut him down to rest it better. However the more likely scenario for him to actually be declared out for the season in week 2 rather than doing this will they won’t they stuff is probably an injury that calls what he looks like next year into question, which probably puts two 1sts a bit more into play. A very rich man’s 2023 Jerome Ford, if you will

EDIT: obviously if your expectation is he looks significantly worse over a small sample size you shouldn’t pay that. But I don’t generally try to sell guys to people who fundamentally don’t believe in them unless I don’t either and am just trying not to get stuck holding the bag. That is not my position here

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I think we need to appreciate a bit more that this is not your run of the mill scenario. Mason is a great handcuff to the top RB in the league, and the top draft pick, arguably in a tier of his own (perhaps with Hill).

Where does Mason go if there's no CMC? He may very well still be a first rounder, going probably just after Breece and Bijan (and maybe Saquon after last week).

I'm trying to think when this ever happened before. When I started in fantasy, Emmitt was the first pick. In later years, maybe Faulk, LT, LJ, Priest Holmes, Ahman Green (?), Jonathan Taylor were at the top. I don't recall any outstanding handcuffs, and frankly handcuffs weren't even really a thing for most of these guys.

That said, if I got offered Nico Williams, I very probably accept. (Not interested in Rasheed).

Fun topic.

Larry Johnson when Priest Holmes was the top guy. I had both and made sure to have Johnson because KC's offensive line was Hall of Fame worthy. I won the championship that year when Priest went down with a neck injury because Larry Johnson picked up where Holmes left off and scored 20 tds

I traded Larry away to a league-mate-friend whom was having a bad season and was on the verge of quitting.

He won the whole thing.

 

[ilianawindfae]

Starting him over: Zack Moss, DeAndre Swift, Zamir White, JK Dobbins, and Jaylen Warren.

 

[Wingnut]

John Lynch on Jordan Mason’s offseason training:

“He became a workout partner with Fred Warner and the linebackers and you kind of tread carefully when you do that because you’re either in or you’re out. When I’m up there [his office] I can always look out and I’d see those guys out there and JP would be on his back a lot and with Fred and them standing there laughing. Fred and them are very competitive, but they allowed him in, and they said 'only if you commit' and Jordan took himself to a higher level of conditioning… And we saw that the other day when JP was on his 28th carry and he looked as strong as he did on his first carry.

I’m so proud of the young man because he’s put in the work and now it’s paying off. He’s always been dependable, and now he’s showing he can be an impact player for us.”

x.com

twitter.com

 

[Ray_T]

Guys, it's CMC lol. He is not being replaced by Jordan Mason.

agreed. if CMC is healthy he will play all the reps hes capable of.

but if they decide to ease him back into action I could see a time share for his first game back.

the key takeaway is this is a short term situation. not permanent. so dont go blowing all your faab money on the guy.

It’s short-term until it’s not. I doubt he’s on many competitive leagues waiver wires anyway, but if he was I’d unload a fair amount.

How much is a fair amount in your mind?

depends on your team, and depends on need to some extent as well as how much FAAB dollars you start with.

assuming you start with $100 FAAB dollars If you own CMC I'd go at least $30 and probably as high as $40. Maybe even more if it looks like there is another team with a need at RB in your league.

There are teams out there who will blow cash to get whatever hot commodity is on the wire after week 1 but if a team has 5 RB I cant see them blowing this much FAAB cash on a guy who may help them for only a couple weeks.

if you have CMC he helps for a couple weeks, yes, but also provides a nice insurance policy in the event CMC goes down. so hes worth more to you than he is to anyone else bidding on him.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Just checking in to see if we’re still trading this guy for WR3’s…

 

[Chaka]

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

waiting to see if that IR comment has legs or not. if cmc goes to IR, giddy up!

 

[Wingnut]

waiting to see if that IR comment has legs or not. if cmc goes to IR, giddy up!

It does, and I'd bet he will be on IR soon.

Nick Wagoner:

49ers coach Kyle Shanahan says that RB Christian McCaffrey had his worst day health wise yesterday in terms of pain. IR is now under consideration, which would mean missing at least the next four games.

x.com

twitter.com

 

[WhoCares]

I hope the people that bought into the trade frenzy a few days ago have learned to be less emotional and understand lotto tickets like Mason rarely come around. Whatever the trade return was can’t be anywhere near the value we have now, the starting 49’ers RB.

If they put CMC on IR, which seems likely, I don’t think he plays again this year. Hate to see that happen to such a great player that focuses on his work and health militantly, but age/stress come for us all.

Holding Mason was ALWAYS the clearest path to maximum value.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

If I owned CMC, I'd be working my A off to get Mason. Price will be too high once CMC is on IR. Reasonably good chance that CMC on IR is wishful thinking and CMC is out for much longer, maybe the year. Mason value would be a WR1, IMO.

 

[JoeJoe88]

I hope the people that bought into the trade frenzy a few days ago have learned to be less emotional and understand lotto tickets like Mason rarely come around. Whatever the trade return was can’t be anywhere near the value we have now, the starting 49’ers RB.

If they put CMC on IR, which seems likely, I don’t think he plays again this year. Hate to see that happen to such a great player that focuses on his work and health militantly, but age/stress come for us all.

Holding Mason was ALWAYS the clearest path to maximum value.

But you could’ve had Christian Kirk or Hopkins I was told!

 

[Chaka]

As much as I like this kid, I wouldn't expect him to match McCaffrey's production. He did not seem to be involved in the passing game at all.

 

[Biabreakable]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Guy in my league inexplicably dropped Mason for Likely this week (he needed a TE I guess but he had much more droppable players imo). I dumped 50% of FAAB picking him up yesterday. Feeling ok about that now.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Holding Mason was ALWAYS the clearest path to maximum value.

Not sure about always, but I think I agree that the gamble is/was worth the upside absent a really good offer. As I said, I think the price for Mason is now a WR1.

 

[Chaka]

If I owned CMC, I'd be working my A off to get Mason. Price will be too high once CMC is on IR. Reasonably good chance that CMC on IR is wishful thinking and CMC is out for much longer, maybe the year. Mason value would be a WR1, IMO.

My price to sell Mason was too high after Monday night.

At least I think it is. Neither McCaffrey owner in either of my leagues has reached out to me.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

Great question. Is Mason a talent or a beneficiary of the system?

 

[Chaka]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

 

[ilianawindfae]

I would be so furious right now if I didn't own him in two leagues.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

 

[Biabreakable]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

I was talking about 2 days from now.

 

[WhoCares]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

Great question. Is Mason a talent or a beneficiary of the system?

Blend of both, probably leaning more towards beneficiary of a system. But that’s more than ok with me. Plenty of slightly above average RBs put up great fantasy points consistently because of the situation they were in.

Even if Mason is an RB2 the rest of the way I’ll take that since he was essentially free.

 

[Chaka]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

I was talking about 2 days from now.

If he gets shut down, he gets shut down. If McCaffrey goes on IR Mason is still the starting RB for the Niners going forward.

Or are you just talking about how people with Mason on their rosters are going to react? Personally I would still start him against the Rams.

 

[ilianawindfae]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

I was talking about 2 days from now.

If he gets shut down, he gets shut down. If McCaffrey goes on IR Mason is still the starting RB for the Niners going forward.

Or are you just talking about how people with Mason on their rosters are going to react? Personally I would still start him against the Rams.

And it's not like they're going to give CMC a full load after missing a month of practice, but maybe they will, all I know is that I somehow stumbled backwards into a free RB1.

 

[icehouse]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

 

[ilianawindfae]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

That Isaac Guerrendo guy, I think. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Not kidding.

 

[JohnnyU]

Locked and loaded

 

[Wingnut]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

That Isaac Guerrendo guy, I think. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Not kidding.

He had a 93 yard kick return in the preseason that assured his spot on the 53 man.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What happens when or if Mason has to come off the field?

Happy to get him locked and loaded but I doubt he will have 28 carries, in fact the Vikings will have a nice upset special at home after San Fran-MNF on a short week has to play on the road
28 carries, I think folks will see a slight return to normal. I can't see them giving him another 25 carries since they need him for several more weeks until CMC makes an appearance

 

[JohnnyU]

What happens when or if Mason has to come off the field?

Happy to get him locked and loaded but I doubt he will have 28 carries, in fact the Vikings will have a nice upset special at home after San Fran-MNF on a short week has to play on the road
28 carries, I think folks will see a slight return to normal. I can't see them giving him another 25 carries since they need him for several more weeks until CMC makes an appearance

He won’t need but 15

 

[King of the Jungle]

Anyone who has watched this kid run the ball when he has got the chance over the years should know he is an above average runner. The system certainly helps, but Mason is a talent when handed the ball. It will be interesting if this is a longer opportunity if he gets more opportunities in the passing game as it goes long. He spent the off-season working on it.

 

[satch]

Starting him over: Zack Moss, DeAndre Swift, Zamir White, JK Dobbins, and Jaylen Warren.

Dobbins has a smash matchup and looked fantastic last week. Mason has a tough matchup, but also looked great. Tough call.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Starting him over: Zack Moss, DeAndre Swift, Zamir White, JK Dobbins, and Jaylen Warren.

Dobbins has a smash matchup and looked fantastic last week. Mason has a tough matchup, but also looked great. Tough call.

Mason should be matchup proof in this system. He makes the right reads consistently and is shifty for his size. If someone meets him in the hole he plows through and drags multiple defenders.

 

[ilianawindfae]

Starting him over: Zack Moss, DeAndre Swift, Zamir White, JK Dobbins, and Jaylen Warren.

Dobbins has a smash matchup and looked fantastic last week. Mason has a tough matchup, but also looked great. Tough call.

Mason should be matchup proof in this system. He makes the right reads consistently and is shifty for his size. If someone meets him in the hole he plows through and drags multiple defenders.

A Gus Edwards on steroids if you will.

 

[Biabreakable]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

I was talking about 2 days from now.

If he gets shut down, he gets shut down. If McCaffrey goes on IR Mason is still the starting RB for the Niners going forward.

Or are you just talking about how people with Mason on their rosters are going to react? Personally I would still start him against the Rams.

I was actually kind of joking but yeah my thought after reading many posts about Mason trade offers of 1st round picks and mocking others for trading him for Christian Kirk and so on, I just thought maybe they sing a different tune if he gets stuffed by the Vikings.

I tend to think the Vikings will be more concerned about the receivers and whoever at RB will do ok. But as a Vikings fan it would be awesome to see them play well.

 

[Chaka]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

I was talking about 2 days from now.

If he gets shut down, he gets shut down. If McCaffrey goes on IR Mason is still the starting RB for the Niners going forward.

Or are you just talking about how people with Mason on their rosters are going to react? Personally I would still start him against the Rams.

I was actually kind of joking but yeah my thought after reading many posts about Mason trade offers of 1st round picks and mocking others for trading him for Christian Kirk and so on, I just thought maybe they sing a different tune if he gets stuffed by the Vikings.

I tend to think the Vikings will be more concerned about the receivers and whoever at RB will do ok. But as a Vikings fan it would be awesome to see them play well.

As a Mason lottery ticket "winner" I wonder the same thing. There is certainly no guarantee his production will continue and, despite it potentially hurting me I will absolutely laugh at the reactions on Monday if he falls flat against Minnesota.

 

[King of the Jungle]

What if the Vikings defense shuts this guy down?

If McCaffrey goes to IR this week then the only thing that happens is Mason starts the following week at the Rams.

I was talking about 2 days from now.

If he gets shut down, he gets shut down. If McCaffrey goes on IR Mason is still the starting RB for the Niners going forward.

Or are you just talking about how people with Mason on their rosters are going to react? Personally I would still start him against the Rams.

I was actually kind of joking but yeah my thought after reading many posts about Mason trade offers of 1st round picks and mocking others for trading him for Christian Kirk and so on, I just thought maybe they sing a different tune if he gets stuffed by the Vikings.

I tend to think the Vikings will be more concerned about the receivers and whoever at RB will do ok. But as a Vikings fan it would be awesome to see them play well.

As a Mason lottery ticket "winner" I wonder the same thing. There is certainly no guarantee his production will continue and, despite it potentially hurting me I will absolutely laugh at the reactions on Monday if he falls flat against Minnesota.

I am with you. Been a huge fan of his for awhile and never understood why he didn’t get more opportunities. But, it is going to be tough to top his last game. I can see a world where Shanahan starts working in his new toy (Guerendo) and we see more of a split (along with Deebo). Happy as heck for the kid and think he is a good player, but in dynasty I am trying to see what I can get from the CMC holder. In redraft, I will happily ride the wave as it has a chance to be a special run.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

For those who followed him closely, was the one catch an aberration, or is he not known for receptions? Nobody thinks he'll be CMC 2.0, but can he be a four-catch guy or is he more a pure runner?

 

[themeistersinger]

49ers’ Jordan Mason got the Fred Warner treatment this summer — and it’s paying off

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5763203/2024/09/12/49ers-jordan-mason-fred-warner/

ANTA CLARA, Calif. — Following Jordan Mason’s 147-yard rushing effort on Monday, San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan has praised the tailback’s hard-charging style but has truly emphasized his impressive stamina.

After all, the 49ers just emerged from a training camp in which nearly every other runner, including Christian McCaffrey, Elijah Mitchell, Isaac Guerendo and Patrick Taylor Jr., was sidelined with injuries, leaving the lion’s share of the summer workload to Mason. Then on Monday, he carried the ball 28 times, the most for a 49ers runner in the Shanahan era.

How did he emerge from such a demanding game? Is he sore, worn down, bruised?

“When I’ve seen him, he hasn’t mentioned anything. The trainers haven’t mentioned anything,” Shanahan said on Wednesday. “He ran so hard in that game and he seems good to go.”

The secret behind that staying power? Mason this week credited someone well-known for antagonizing him and his offensive teammates, Fred Warner.

The 49ers middle linebacker has a gift for riling up teammates. He’s the loudest player on the field in any practice and he’s known for singling out offensive opponents he senses are ready to take the next step in their development.
...

 

[Smack Tripper]

For those who followed him closely, was the one catch an aberration, or is he not known for receptions? Nobody thinks he'll be CMC 2.0, but can he be a four-catch guy or is he more a pure runner?

I don't know for sure but I'd specualte at least early it was a division of labor with Deebo