RB Jordan Mason, MIN (2 Viewers)

[WhoCares]

What happens when or if Mason has to come off the field?

Happy to get him locked and loaded but I doubt he will have 28 carries, in fact the Vikings will have a nice upset special at home after San Fran-MNF on a short week has to play on the road
28 carries, I think folks will see a slight return to normal. I can't see them giving him another 25 carries since they need him for several more weeks until CMC makes an appearance

An entire offseason wasn’t enough to get CMC healthy after 400+ season and is 28. After light practices he has his worst pain day yesterday after missing week 1.

Other than his name, what on Earth makes you think CMC is back in a few weeks?

Considering all evidence, I doubt we see CMC this year at all.

 

[Dizzy]

What happens when or if Mason has to come off the field?

Happy to get him locked and loaded but I doubt he will have 28 carries, in fact the Vikings will have a nice upset special at home after San Fran-MNF on a short week has to play on the road
28 carries, I think folks will see a slight return to normal. I can't see them giving him another 25 carries since they need him for several more weeks until CMC makes an appearance

An entire offseason wasn’t enough to get CMC healthy after 400+ season and is 28. After light practices he has his worst pain day yesterday after missing week 1.

Other than his name, what on Earth makes you think CMC is back in a few weeks?

Considering all evidence, I doubt we see CMC this year at all.

Hate to say it, but my gut says the same... 2024 might be a lost season for CMC.

 

[Chardo1]

Poised to be the greatest Georgia Tech player since Megatron.

 

[bolldpt]

For those who followed him closely, was the one catch an aberration, or is he not known for receptions? Nobody thinks he'll be CMC 2.0, but can he be a four-catch guy or is he more a pure runner?

From what I’ve read he spent the offseason addressing his receiving skills and was praised for his improvements in that category.

 

[Soulfly3]

I cannot tell you how close I was to cutting him when roster cuts had to be made in dynasty... I had little space and I was pretty close to doing it... Something in my gut told me "keep him, just keep him"

thank you, indigestion!

 

[BespokeJort]

For those who followed him closely, was the one catch an aberration, or is he not known for receptions? Nobody thinks he'll be CMC 2.0, but can he be a four-catch guy or is he more a pure runner?

Career wise he hasn’t been a pass catcher but it was a point of emphasis he was supposedly working on in the offseason. For what it’s worth the one catch was a good one—he ran a real route and turned and caught the ball coming from behind him—not just a “halfback hanging out in the flat facing the quarterback” deal. But it’s not something he’d shown a ton of beforehand

 

[King of the Jungle]

For those who followed him closely, was the one catch an aberration, or is he not known for receptions? Nobody thinks he'll be CMC 2.0, but can he be a four-catch guy or is he more a pure runner?

Career wise he hasn’t been a pass catcher but it was a point of emphasis he was supposedly working on in the offseason. For what it’s worth the one catch was a good one—he ran a real route and turned and caught the ball coming from behind him—not just a “halfback hanging out in the flat facing the quarterback” deal. But it’s not something he’d shown a ton of beforehand

I think they will expand his receiving, as that is a big part of the offense. That was a good catch as they went to him on a crucial third down play and there was immediate contact. I think that role will expand a bit as you mentioned he put a lot of time into it this off-season and it is a big part of the offense. The only word of warning is Isaac Guerendo as he was a pretty good receiver in college and drafted in the 4th round. I know he did not show much this off-season, but if he is a quick study I could see Shanahan getting him more involved. It is not like Mason is accustomed to a heavy workload and Kyle may want to spread out the touches a little more with the remainder of depth. Either way, it feels like a pretty big win for those that hung onto Mason.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I hope the people that bought into the trade frenzy a few days ago have learned to be less emotional and understand lotto tickets like Mason rarely come around. Whatever the trade return was can’t be anywhere near the value we have now, the starting 49’ers RB.

If they put CMC on IR, which seems likely, I don’t think he plays again this year. Hate to see that happen to such a great player that focuses on his work and health militantly, but age/stress come for us all.

Holding Mason was ALWAYS the clearest path to maximum value.

But you could’ve had Christian Kirk or Hopkins I was told!

 

[King of the Jungle]

Got a first from the CMC holder, good luck to the rest of the believers. Could be a special run here…

 

[osubuckeyeman]

The real question is what he is worth if you are trading for him and are not a CMC holder. Four weeks of production? Or do we expect the injury to linger? The 49ers' offense is a bit unpredictable. What is the process in this situation?

 

[Faust]

Coach Yac
John Lynch on Jordan Mason’s offseason training:

“He became a workout partner with Fred Warner and the linebackers and you kind of tread carefully when you do that because you’re either in or you’re out. When I’m up there [his office] I can always look out and I’d see those guys out there and JP would be on his back a lot and with Fred and them standing there laughing. Fred and them are very competitive, but they allowed him in, and they said 'only if you commit' and Jordan took himself to a higher level of conditioning… And we saw that the other day when JP was on his 28th carry and he looked as strong as he did on his first carry.

I’m so proud of the young man because he’s put in the work and now it’s paying off. He’s always been dependable, and now he’s showing he can be an impact player for us.”

via: @KNBR

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[NumberOneFan]

No way I’m parting with him. Part of having the highest scoring players on your team means they’re not in your opponents lineups. Even if he’s on your bench blowing up at least he’s not racking up points that beat you. He may be what gives you a five week edge and if CMC returns, he’ll still hold value. I think he is the main guy through the first ten weeks. If Mason continues to perform at this level, SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

This is the thing right now. Even with the CMC news, the 49ers are still currently the favorites to win the NFC, and if they keep winning with Mason they have no incentive to rush CMC back before he's 110% healed and ready for a Super Bowl run. I've got a gut feeling we don't see McCaffrey on the field for most of the regular season. Anything short of a Super Bowl win is a failure for this team, they need CMC to get right for January, not October.

 

[Faust]

Elite Drafters
The conversation starts to turn to Jordan Mason as a future and present top-5 RB1 in the NFL in 2024 and potentially years to come.

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[The Jerminator]

No way I’m parting with him. Part of having the highest scoring players on your team means they’re not in your opponents lineups. Even if he’s on your bench blowing up at least he’s not racking up points that beat you. He may be what gives you a five week edge and if CMC returns, he’ll still hold value. I think he is the main guy through the first ten weeks. If Mason continues to perform at this level, SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

THIS. Additionally, even if CMC comes back relatively strong mid-season, SF will likely be very protective of him down the stretch of the regular season (read: FF Playoff Season) where Mason will get his and Mason Owners will get Chips...

 

[JohnnyU]

No way I’m parting with him. Part of having the highest scoring players on your team means they’re not in your opponents lineups. Even if he’s on your bench blowing up at least he’s not racking up points that beat you. He may be what gives you a five week edge and if CMC returns, he’ll still hold value. I think he is the main guy through the first ten weeks. If Mason continues to perform at this level, SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

THIS. Additionally, even if CMC comes back relatively strong mid-season, SF will likely be very protective of him down the stretch of the regular season (read: FF Playoff Season) where Mason will get his and Mason Owners will get Chips...

I'd rather have ships than chips.

 

[The Jerminator]

No way I’m parting with him. Part of having the highest scoring players on your team means they’re not in your opponents lineups. Even if he’s on your bench blowing up at least he’s not racking up points that beat you. He may be what gives you a five week edge and if CMC returns, he’ll still hold value. I think he is the main guy through the first ten weeks. If Mason continues to perform at this level, SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

THIS. Additionally, even if CMC comes back relatively strong mid-season, SF will likely be very protective of him down the stretch of the regular season (read: FF Playoff Season) where Mason will get his and Mason Owners will get Chips...

I'd rather have ships than chips.

Fair. Regional dialects...

 

[eighsse2]

No way I’m parting with him. Part of having the highest scoring players on your team means they’re not in your opponents lineups. Even if he’s on your bench blowing up at least he’s not racking up points that beat you. He may be what gives you a five week edge and if CMC returns, he’ll still hold value. I think he is the main guy through the first ten weeks. If Mason continues to perform at this level, SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

THIS. Additionally, even if CMC comes back relatively strong mid-season, SF will likely be very protective of him down the stretch of the regular season (read: FF Playoff Season) where Mason will get his and Mason Owners will get Chips...

I'd rather have ships than chips.

I'd rather have championships than ships or chips.

 

[zamboni]

Elite Drafters
The conversation starts to turn to Jordan Mason as a future and present top-5 RB1 in the NFL in 2024 and potentially years to come.

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Getting a bit ahead of ourselves, but with McCaffrey getting older and banged up, it does make sense to start thinking of whether Mason has considerable value beyond these next several weeks in 2024.

 

[need2know]

Elite Drafters
The conversation starts to turn to Jordan Mason as a future and present top-5 RB1 in the NFL in 2024 and potentially years to come.

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Getting a bit ahead of ourselves, but with McCaffrey getting older and banged up, it does make sense to start thinking of whether Mason has considerable value beyond these next several weeks in 2024.

He does! This could be the beginning of the end of cmc. When the end comes its usually fast

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Elite Drafters
The conversation starts to turn to Jordan Mason as a future and present top-5 RB1 in the NFL in 2024 and potentially years to come.

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UDFA, the 10th under Kyle Shanahan to rush for over 100 yds in an NFL game for SF?
Is that right? I hear it on the radio but it seemed crazy

Years?

 

[Kevrunner]

For those who followed him closely, was the one catch an aberration, or is he not known for receptions? Nobody thinks he'll be CMC 2.0, but can he be a four-catch guy or is he more a pure runner?

He’s put in the time and effort to improve on his receiving skills, hopefully he’ll get more chances going forward, I think they intentionally didn’t want to overload him in his 1st start and only gave him 1 target which he caught. Mason talks about how he worked on this here:

Jordan Mason Putting In The Time and Effort

 

[JohnnyU]

No way I’m parting with him. Part of having the highest scoring players on your team means they’re not in your opponents lineups. Even if he’s on your bench blowing up at least he’s not racking up points that beat you. He may be what gives you a five week edge and if CMC returns, he’ll still hold value. I think he is the main guy through the first ten weeks. If Mason continues to perform at this level, SF will have no reason to rush CMC back and can hope to have him healthy for the playoffs.

THIS. Additionally, even if CMC comes back relatively strong mid-season, SF will likely be very protective of him down the stretch of the regular season (read: FF Playoff Season) where Mason will get his and Mason Owners will get Chips...

I'd rather have ships than chips.

I'd rather have championships than ships or chips.

I can sail the world in my ship and only eat chips or have a small amount of money or bragging rights with a championship.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Elite Drafters
The conversation starts to turn to Jordan Mason as a future and present top-5 RB1 in the NFL in 2024 and potentially years to come.

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Getting a bit ahead of ourselves, but with McCaffrey getting older and banged up, it does make sense to start thinking of whether Mason has considerable value beyond these next several weeks in 2024.

He does! This could be the beginning of the end of cmc. When the end comes its usually fast

Does he?
UDFA from my notes...this is Year 3 he's a free agent in the off season by my math

The bright side would be he's playing for a new deal be it SF or elsewhere, the downside is SF has had so much luck finding RBs that can produce, they don't really need to overpay
My gut says he is elsewhere next year if he's eligible in free agency

 

[JohnnyU]

Mason is a short term rental most likely.

 

[need2know]

Elite Drafters
The conversation starts to turn to Jordan Mason as a future and present top-5 RB1 in the NFL in 2024 and potentially years to come.

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Getting a bit ahead of ourselves, but with McCaffrey getting older and banged up, it does make sense to start thinking of whether Mason has considerable value beyond these next several weeks in 2024.

He does! This could be the beginning of the end of cmc. When the end comes its usually fast

Does he?
UDFA from my notes...this is Year 3 he's a free agent in the off season by my math

The bright side would be he's playing for a new deal be it SF or elsewhere, the downside is SF has had so much luck finding RBs that can produce, they don't really need to overpay
My gut says he is elsewhere next year if he's eligible in free agency

yeah he prob gets more money elsewhere but who knows

 

[Teef]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

I think there is a non-zero chance Guerendo starts getting some opportunities. I can’t imagine Mason taking 25+ carries a game.

 

[icehouse]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

I think there is a non-zero chance Guerendo starts getting some opportunities. I can’t imagine Mason taking 25+ carries a game.

Everyone needs to pick him up, depending on their # of bench spots.

 

[JohnnyU]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

What makes you say that?

 

[bolldpt]

I cannot tell you how close I was to cutting him when roster cuts had to be made in dynasty... I had little space and I was pretty close to doing it... Something in my gut told me "keep him, just keep him"

thank you, indigestion!

Very similar. Held on to him all last year. So glad I did.

 

[bolldpt]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

I think there is a non-zero chance Guerendo starts getting some opportunities. I can’t imagine Mason taking 25+ carries a game.

We need specific percentages in the Shark Pool.

 

[WhoCares]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

What makes you say that?

All of the objective evidence up to this point and the progressive momentum of the injury.

What about this situation makes you think it’s short-term? Because his name is CMC?

Nothing that has happened points to a short recovery.

 

[eighsse2]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

I think there is a non-zero chance Guerendo starts getting some opportunities. I can’t imagine Mason taking 25+ carries a game.

We need specific percentages in the Shark Pool.

Fine, fine, greater than zero. Happy?

 

[JohnnyU]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

What makes you say that?

All of the objective evidence up to this point and the progressive momentum of the injury.

What about this situation makes you think it’s short-term? Because his name is CMC?

Nothing that has happened points to a short recovery.

What makes me NOT think he’s out for the season is because I haven’t heard anything to make me think otherwise.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

What makes you say that?

All of the objective evidence up to this point and the progressive momentum of the injury.

What about this situation makes you think it’s short-term? Because his name is CMC?

Nothing that has happened points to a short recovery.

What makes me NOT think he’s out for the season is because I haven’t heard anything to make me think otherwise.

By the time you hear about it, it’s too late.

 

[JohnnyU]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

What makes you say that?

All of the objective evidence up to this point and the progressive momentum of the injury.

What about this situation makes you think it’s short-term? Because his name is CMC?

Nothing that has happened points to a short recovery.

What makes me NOT think he’s out for the season is because I haven’t heard anything to make me think otherwise.

By the time you hear about it, it’s too late.

Won’t matter to me because I don’t have CMC and have two shares of Mason. My point is, I won’t be making any absolute statements saying I think CMC is done for the season at this juncture. No reports have hinted as such.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

CMC on IR. It's Mason time.

 

[FGITLOTR]

Mason is a short term rental most likely.

why would you say that? Give me one concrete shred of evidence to support this assertion.

 

[WhoCares]

I think McCaffrey is done for the season. So now I'm wishing I had more Mason and Guerendo.

What makes you say that?

All of the objective evidence up to this point and the progressive momentum of the injury.

What about this situation makes you think it’s short-term? Because his name is CMC?

Nothing that has happened points to a short recovery.

What makes me NOT think he’s out for the season is because I haven’t heard anything to make me think otherwise.

By the time you hear about it, it’s too late.

Won’t matter to me because I don’t have CMC and have two shares of Mason. My point is, I won’t be making any absolute statements saying I think CMC is done for the season at this juncture. No reports have hinted as such.

Not sure what the issue is here. People expressed their opinion saying “I think” he’s done for the season, the same as you said you “think” Mason is a short term rental. I don’t see any statements of facts there.

The current evidence combined with situational specifics and momentum of the injury continuing to worsen, while considering all compensating aspects (49’ers are a SB contender, Mason running good on MNF, great OL, CMC having absurd usage, etc.) points to a lengthy healing process for CMC.

Now, as I write this, CMC has been put on IR.

No one has made a statement of fact, just saying the totality of information available more supports CMC being out for almost the entire season (or the entire season) than it supports CMC returning shortly.

 

[JohnnyU]

Mason is a short term rental most likely.

why would you say that? Give me one concrete shred of evidence to support this assertion.

Because nothing indicates CMC is out long term? I’m saying even on IR nothing has been said he would miss more than four games.

 

[The General]

Mason is a short term rental most likely.

why would you say that? Give me one concrete shred of evidence to support this assertion.

Because nothing indicates CMC is out long term? I’m saying even on IR nothing has been said he would miss more than four games.

It’s all guess work and gambling but I’ll take the bet he misses more than 4 games.

 

[Wingnut]

49ers' pecking order at tailback with CMC heading to IR:

1. Jordan Mason
2. Isaac Guerendo
3. Patrick Taylor Jr.
4. Ke'Shawn Vaughn (practice squad)

Meanwhile, team also has a fullback (Kyle Juszczyk) and a widleback (Deebo Samuel). Samuel was in the backfield 10 times on MON.

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[Wingnut]

The four games Jordan Mason will start while Christian McCaffrey is on IR:

@ Vikings
@ Rams
vs Patriots
vs Cardinals

 

[Loris]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

That Isaac Guerrendo guy, I think. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Not kidding.

Just scooped him up off the wire

 

[JohnnyU]

Mason is a short term rental most likely.

why would you say that? Give me one concrete shred of evidence to support this assertion.

Because nothing indicates CMC is out long term? I’m saying even on IR nothing has been said he would miss more than four games.

It’s all guess work and gambling but I’ll take the bet he misses more than 4 games.

Why do you think that?

 

[need2know]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

That Isaac Guerrendo guy, I think. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Not kidding.

Just scooped him up off the wire

Wow how was he still there? 3 person league?

 

[themeistersinger]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

That Isaac Guerrendo guy, I think. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Not kidding.

Just scooped him up off the wire

Wow how was he still there? 3 person league?

I assume he skipped up Guerrendo, not Mason. Guerrendo is still on the WW in my league, but we have short benches.

 

[Loris]

Wondering if I should get the Mason handcuff...

Who is it and what’s their cost/value?

That Isaac Guerrendo guy, I think. He ran a 4.33 at the combine. Not kidding.

Just scooped him up off the wire

Wow how was he still there? 3 person league?

Yes I scooped up Guerrendo - sorry...

 

[The General]

Mason is a short term rental most likely.

why would you say that? Give me one concrete shred of evidence to support this assertion.

Because nothing indicates CMC is out long term? I’m saying even on IR nothing has been said he would miss more than four games.

It’s all guess work and gambling but I’ll take the bet he misses more than 4 games.

Why do you think that?

Lots of miles last year…Similar injury last season. Re-injured area a month ago…rehabs as much as he can…it pops up again as soon as he starts getting game ready…gets worse throughout the week and a half of practicing.

Hope I’m wrong but I’ll be happy with week 10 or so.