JoeSteeler
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Not that I sawOnly reason I see him being released if he lied what actually went on. Has there been any confirmation what made them release him yet other then he's no longer employed?
Not that I sawOnly reason I see him being released if he lied what actually went on. Has there been any confirmation what made them release him yet other then he's no longer employed?
He’ll be back. He’s cut because he lied, not because of the video.It is a crazy situation that escalated quickly. NFL did what they felt they had to do, as did the chiefs. Can he make his way back onto a NFL team? depends on time of suspension, but i'd think that someone would sign him, hopefully with the promise of rehabilitation for his actions.
Then lock the thread up Joe. Just got cut. His career seems to be over. There's no football left to be discussed.Drop 100% of the non-football talk and trying to defend any actions justifying violence against women. Full stop.
Great point.FreeBaGeL said:LOL at respecting a team for releasing the guy to save face while happily employing the guy that did 100x worse because he is not the focus of public ire at the moment.
Not Derrick Carr in Vegas?He’ll be back. He’s cut because he lied, not because of the video.
Geriatric Peterson is on a team, Mixon is on a team, Vick got multiple other chances, Reuben Foster just got picked up, the Chiefs already have Tyreek. The teams don’t care. He’ll do some community lip service and take handoffs from Ryan Tannehill next year.
He will be on a team next yearThen lock the thread up Joe. Just got cut. His career seems to be over. There's no football left to be discussed.
Other then who's replacing himThen lock the thread up Joe. Just got cut. His career seems to be over. There's no football left to be discussed.
I don't know, I think he is done. Screams Ray Rice 2.0 to me. I know he is more talented than Rice was at the time of the video release but I think the line is clear. If there is a video, it's game over.He’ll be back. He’s cut because he lied, not because of the video.
Geriatric Peterson is on a team, Mixon is on a team, Vick got multiple other chances, Reuben Foster just got picked up, the Chiefs already have Tyreek. The teams don’t care. He’ll do some community lip service and take handoffs from Ryan Tannehill next year.
Oh it will. Some is going to go get their 15 mins by bringing him into this. Hill hasn't had issues since being in the league. Yes I drafted him this year but was totally against him or Mixon being in the league. I was vehemently against Mixon being a possible Eagles draft target. However praising the Chiefs for cutting Hunt is not right either. Maybe he was cut for lying or maybe it was just PR reasons. Either way Hill will be brought up especially if they make the SB. The dead week and week of the game? Yeah it's gonna be big news.The real question is whether the fallout from this drags T. Hill back into the spotlight.
I agree. It's over. A sad ending. So much potential but he's more than just an athlete and his actions have impacts. What he did was gross, indefensible and cruel. There is nothing left to say. Why would a billion dollar industry want anything to do with him after this? Why should we?Then lock the thread up Joe. Just got cut. His career seems to be over. There's no football left to be discussed.
He'll be employed both Foster and AP have jobs stillI don't know, I think he is done. Screams Ray Rice 2.0 to me. I know he is more talented than Rice was at the time of the video release but I think the line is clear. If there is a video, it's game over.
The only reason Ray Rice was blackballed was because he called out the owner in public.I don't know, I think he is done. Screams Ray Rice 2.0 to me. I know he is more talented than Rice was at the time of the video release but I think the line is clear. If there is a video, it's game over.
An important piece of the puzzle here is that he misled the team about what happened.He barely kicked her. I mean he kicked her so softly i wouldn't even call it a kick. Is he wrong for doing it? Absolutely. Should he be punished? Absolutely. Severely? Nope.
Ray Rice was at the end of his career. Neither of the guys mentioned were.No videos.
In a statement put out Friday following the release of a video in which Hunt appears to be pushing a woman, the team notes "earlier this year, we were made aware of an incident involving (Hunt.) At that time, the National Football League and law enforcement initiated investigations into the issue. As part of our internal discussions with Kareem, several members of our management team spoke directly to him. Kareem was not truthful in those discussions. The video released today confirms that fact. We are releasing Kareem immediately.Only reason I see him being released if he lied what actually went on. Has there been any confirmation what made them release him yet other then he's no longer employed?
Is that what happened or is this just assumptions at this point?An important piece of the puzzle here is that he misled the team about what happened.
He barely kicked her. I mean he kicked her so softly i wouldn't even call it a kick. Is he wrong for doing it? Absolutely. Should he be punished? Absolutely. Severely? Nope.
Well theres the confirmation he wasn't truthful and was released.In a statement put out Friday following the release of a video in which Hunt appears to be pushing a woman, the team notes "earlier this year, we were made aware of an incident involving (Hunt.) At that time, the National Football League and law enforcement initiated investigations into the issue. As part of our internal discussions with Kareem, several members of our management team spoke directly to him. Kareem was not truthful in those discussions. The video released today confirms that fact. We are releasing Kareem immediately.
Also don’t take this as me defending Hunt or any of this... I actually think his actions and what the nfl does is quite despicable. But hey, they wear pink ribbons for a month so they love women.The only reason Ray Rice was blackballed was because he called out the owner in public.
This will be blunt but here’s the real talk - the NFL only cares what men think. Lot of men got pissed off at Kaepernick, he’s out. Rice called out the Ravens owner, he’s out. Multiple people beat women... ehhh I mean I’m sure he just got upset.
It’s not right, but I can name tons of incidents where the player came back and nobody cared. The chiefs have one right now running routes, so let’s not pretend they’re taking the moral high ground here. They only cut him because he made them look stupid.
no one is saying that's right. they're saying that's reality in the NFLIt's not right to say "video=lifetime ban" and "no video=get a new team" because that implies horrible things that happen off camera aren't as real. However, I think the "optics" of it are such that people are do disgusted seeing the video of these things that there is no real recovery from.
There was a video of Mixon breaking a young woman’s face.I don't know, I think he is done. Screams Ray Rice 2.0 to me. I know he is more talented than Rice was at the time of the video release but I think the line is clear. If there is a video, it's game over.
I know, I just said itno one is saying that's right. they're saying that's reality in the NFL
Sounds like a guy Gruden would trade a 2nd rounder forI remember the Browns talked to Ray Rice a year or so after that video came out. I would think they weren't the only team. Thing with Rice was he was trending down and getting older. The ROI wouldn't have been there most likely.
Hunt is a 23-year-old pro bowler. Some GM/coach on thin ice could very well pull the trigger.
Very good point. Perhaps it will prove me wrong. I just think circumstances and climate are different. It is a great point against my line though.There was a video of Mixon breaking a young woman’s face.
But what does "talked to mean"? Who put that story into the media?I remember the Browns talked to Ray Rice a year or so after that video came out. I would think they weren't the only team. Thing with Rice was he was trending down and getting older. The ROI wouldn't have been there most likely.
Hunt is a 23-year-old pro bowler. Some GM/coach on thin ice could very well pull the trigger.
That I agree with. When the Ray Rice thing happened a poster on my old forum mentioned people just shoved Assaulting women to the Curb. It was a baseball forum so topic names brought up including Bobby Cox the Braves manager and others. people didn't make a big deal of them because of no video. After the Rice video people changed opinions on Assaulting women overall. People are still mad that Mixon and Hill and AP and Foster are still employed.It's not right to say "video=lifetime ban" and "no video=get a new team" because that implies horrible things that happen off camera aren't as real. However, I think the "optics" of it are such that people are do disgusted seeing the video of these things that there is no real recovery from.
I was shocked he was drafted right after that was released - although it was by the Bengals.Very good point. Perhaps it will prove me wrong. I just think circumstances and climate are different. It is a great point against my line though.
John Grudden ?I remember the Browns talked to Ray Rice a year or so after that video came out. I would think they weren't the only team. Thing with Rice was he was trending down and getting older. The ROI wouldn't have been there most likely.
Hunt is a 23-year-old pro bowler. Some GM/coach on thin ice could very well pull the trigger.
It's wrong but she was acting crazy too. Im not saying he was ok to kick her he clearly is in the wrong but he def didn't kick her hard.Where is the line? What amount of force is fine? What exact amount of pressure deserves a severe punishment? It says something about anyone who would do this at any level. 19 year old girl. On the floor.
Speaking of that, it makes you wonder about the Hill-Chiefs dynamics moving forward. The Chiefs upper brass can't help but be reminded of Hill's past now. It's a very uncertain line they are walking.That I agree with. When the Ray Rice thing happened a poster on my old forum mentioned people just shoved Assaulting women to the Curb. It was a baseball forum so topic names brought up including Bobby Cox the Braves manager and others. people didn't make a big deal of them because of no video. After the Rice video people changed opinions on Assaulting women overall. People are still mad that Mixon and Hill and AP and Foster are still employed.
Honestly i think Oakland will pick him up. Gruden may say no, but he's due 100 million over 10 years, and his owner has around 250 to 500 million. He's not at risk of taking fallout individually.Sounds like a guy Gruden would trade a 2nd rounder for
Agreed but what about moving her forcefully out of the way so you can leave. Hunt wasn't doingbthat here and he's 100% wrong but he didn't beat her up.Fighting a woman is like fighting a cat. Even if the cat scratches first, you still look like a doosh for fighting a cat.
Which is why people think the women in the video threatened legal action if the video wasn't got the video and told TMZ and then got a nice payday and ruined a guys career. Yeah he's an idiot for baiting but she's no angle herself.Nfl investigators couldn’t uncover what TMZ can with a small bribe
Not this year. Next year is under a cloud. He could be blackballed like Rice and probably will be. Shame too because he's young and talented.Honestly i think Oakland will pick him up. Gruden may say no, but he's due 100 million over 10 years, and his owner has around 250 to 500 million. He's not at risk of taking fallout individually.
The team is moving, and they're moving to a city where they'll sell out indefinitely, and people and casinos will buy tickets regardless. The team won't face any long term blowback.
Imagine adding a pro bowl running back, 1.1 and two more firsts before you open a new stadium. They'll bite.
It is hard to explain what went on there. He is really lucky. Being as young as he was probably saved him. People are more forgiving of teens in college than 20 something year old professionals.I was shocked he was drafted right after that was released - although it was by the Bengals.
100%No one of the three things done - the first shove, shoving a guy into the girl, the kick - are that egregious.
But add them together and the optics are terrible