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RB Kendre Miller, NO (1 Viewer)

Miller isn't an expensive investment. You can get Miller for a late 1st or early 2nd. The upside at that price point is enough for me to keep swinging for the fences.

Charbonnet is the safer pick if deciding between the two. I'd take Charbs if you want "safe", and Miller if you want to gamble.
I haven't seen him available in the 2nd round anywhere and have seen him go as high as 1.05 so I think as draft season has gone on the hype is moving MIller into a riskier pick as the cost is getting higher and higher.
 
and he will be IMO.
Is your opinion that the trial will be scheduled anytime soon?
He may just want to get it over with, I don't know. He's not getting any younger. I suppose it could drag out and he doesn't get suspended in 2023. I don't know the legal details.
I’m not sure what his age has to do with it (if anything it seems the opposite would apply) the NFL won’t suspend him until for legal process plays out and so far delaying the trial date seems to be the way Kamara’s team has been playing it.
 
Miller isn't an expensive investment. You can get Miller for a late 1st or early 2nd. The upside at that price point is enough for me to keep swinging for the fences.

Charbonnet is the safer pick if deciding between the two. I'd take Charbs if you want "safe", and Miller if you want to gamble.
I haven't seen him available in the 2nd round anywhere and have seen him go as high as 1.05 so I think as draft season has gone on the hype is moving MIller into a riskier pick as the cost is getting higher and higher.
In the draft thread, The 5 league drafts I posted, not counting a devy league where the rookie draft is separate from the devy draft, he went 1.12, 2.06,, 2.08, and 1.10.
 
and he will be IMO.
Is your opinion that the trial will be scheduled anytime soon?
He may just want to get it over with, I don't know. He's not getting any younger. I suppose it could drag out and he doesn't get suspended in 2023. I don't know the legal details.
I’m not sure what his age has to do with it (if anything it seems the opposite would apply) the NFL won’t suspend him until for legal process plays out and so far delaying the trial date seems to be the way Kamara’s team has been playing it.
Only in the context he can't be fiddlefarting around because of his age :) That aside, someone else posted above that delaying the trial may not matter as far as a suspension is concerned.
 
Miller isn't an expensive investment. You can get Miller for a late 1st or early 2nd. The upside at that price point is enough for me to keep swinging for the fences.

Charbonnet is the safer pick if deciding between the two. I'd take Charbs if you want "safe", and Miller if you want to gamble.
I haven't seen him available in the 2nd round anywhere and have seen him go as high as 1.05 so I think as draft season has gone on the hype is moving MIller into a riskier pick as the cost is getting higher and higher.
In the draft thread, The 5 league drafts I posted, not counting a devy league where the rookie draft is separate from the devy draft, he went 1.12, 2.06,, 2.08, and 1.10.
For sure different in my leagues. I did 9 one start QB drafts and he made it out of round one in just one draft and fell to 2.4, high pick was 6.

Now there is a big caveat to this which is that I threw that data off since I was the one usually stopping the slide and grabbing him in late round one. In fact the one league he fell to 2.4 was a situation where I picked 12th and had up to that point drafted him in round one 5x so I did something I don't normally do and decided to deviate and take a player I had not yet drafted and pass him up. I feel like I made a mistake.
 
and he will be IMO.
Is your opinion that the trial will be scheduled anytime soon?
He may just want to get it over with, I don't know. He's not getting any younger. I suppose it could drag out and he doesn't get suspended in 2023. I don't know the legal details.
I’m not sure what his age has to do with it (if anything it seems the opposite would apply) the NFL won’t suspend him until for legal process plays out and so far delaying the trial date seems to be the way Kamara’s team has been playing it.
I thought about this the other day and from a purely financial angle it would behoove him to not delay the trail or settlement. It's only going to cost him $63,530 a game this year.

If the Saints opt to move on from him after this year he'd be far better positioned in FA having this behind him. If they keep him his current contract for 2024 would run him $600K per game suspension but if the Saints keep him that won't really be relevant since they'll do the same thing they did this year and convert most of that to a bonus which is can't be touched.

Perhaps he's more concerned with winning then putting himself in the best financial position heading into 2024, but if I was him now that the Saints moved most of his base to a bonus for 2023 I'd be ready to get this over with this season.
 
I'm going to post a link that is behind a paywall and I don't have access to it myself to share any info, just someone I follow on twitter who is far and away the best Saints beat writer but he started his own site a few years ag. He recently wrote an article that some of you who are investing in Kendre or thinking about it might find interesting if you want to spend a little money to read it: How Kendre Miller plans to grow as a route runner
 
and he will be IMO.
Is your opinion that the trial will be scheduled anytime soon?
He may just want to get it over with, I don't know. He's not getting any younger. I suppose it could drag out and he doesn't get suspended in 2023. I don't know the legal details.
I’m not sure what his age has to do with it (if anything it seems the opposite would apply) the NFL won’t suspend him until for legal process plays out and so far delaying the trial date seems to be the way Kamara’s team has been playing it.
NFL won't suspend before the legal process is complete... you sure about that... are you really sure about that
 
I certainly overdrafted Miller at 1.04 but I'm ok with it. Bijan, Gibbs and Charbonet went 1,2,3. Even if it's not this season there's a clear path to a becoming a future RB1.
 
Miller isn't an expensive investment. You can get Miller for a late 1st or early 2nd. The upside at that price point is enough for me to keep swinging for the fences.

Charbonnet is the safer pick if deciding between the two. I'd take Charbs if you want "safe", and Miller if you want to gamble.
I haven't seen him available in the 2nd round anywhere and have seen him go as high as 1.05 so I think as draft season has gone on the hype is moving MIller into a riskier pick as the cost is getting higher and higher.
I play mostly in Superflex, ppr, leagues. Miller is going in the late 1st, early 2nd in these drafts. You can bump him to the mid-1st round in one QB leagues.
 
Miller isn't an expensive investment. You can get Miller for a late 1st or early 2nd. The upside at that price point is enough for me to keep swinging for the fences.

Charbonnet is the safer pick if deciding between the two. I'd take Charbs if you want "safe", and Miller if you want to gamble.
I haven't seen him available in the 2nd round anywhere and have seen him go as high as 1.05 so I think as draft season has gone on the hype is moving MIller into a riskier pick as the cost is getting higher and higher.
I play mostly in Superflex, ppr, leagues. Miller is going in the late 1st, early 2nd in these drafts. You can bump him to the mid-1st round in one QB leagues.
Or you can bump him to early to mid to mid late 2nd as I have already shown in two of the 4 drafts I listed. He also seems to go late 1st too. I think mid-1st or higher is an outlier.
 
In my 12 Team 1 QB, I was considering him at 1.07 or 1.08 (I had both). But when Addison and Charbonnet fell, I changed course. Then I saw Miller was available at 2.02, so I traded up to get him and them Mayer at 2.03 I was thrilled at landing both in early 2nd.
 
and he will be IMO.
Is your opinion that the trial will be scheduled anytime soon?
He may just want to get it over with, I don't know. He's not getting any younger. I suppose it could drag out and he doesn't get suspended in 2023. I don't know the legal details.
I’m not sure what his age has to do with it (if anything it seems the opposite would apply) the NFL won’t suspend him until for legal process plays out and so far delaying the trial date seems to be the way Kamara’s team has been playing it.
NFL won't suspend before the legal process is complete... you sure about that... are you really sure about that
Calm down.
That’s been the way it’s done. I’m not making some absolute proclamation though.
 
Got him at 1.12 in a 12 team 1QB. Was pleasantly surprised he dropped to me.

I burned a decent pick not to take that chance and the way the draft went, I'm not sure I wouldn't have gotten him at 1.12, so I don't advise doing what I did nor am I looking for confirmation I necessarily made the right move. All sorts of arguments pro and con. I might have jumped the gun and not let the draft come to me. I'll do that sometimes. I spent a future first-round pick two years ago to for that year's 2.04 and 2.5 and took Micah Parsons and Jamin Davis, so my impatience suited me well there. Let's hope Miller has the same career arc as Parsons.
He's definitely on my radar in my dynasty league. Where do you rNks him among the rookie RB's?
 
Got him at 1.12 in a 12 team 1QB. Was pleasantly surprised he dropped to me.

I burned a decent pick not to take that chance and the way the draft went, I'm not sure I wouldn't have gotten him at 1.12, so I don't advise doing what I did nor am I looking for confirmation I necessarily made the right move. All sorts of arguments pro and con. I might have jumped the gun and not let the draft come to me. I'll do that sometimes. I spent a future first-round pick two years ago to for that year's 2.04 and 2.5 and took Micah Parsons and Jamin Davis, so my impatience suited me well there. Let's hope Miller has the same career arc as Parsons.
He's definitely on my radar in my dynasty league. Where do you rNks him among the rookie RB's?
I have him in a tier with Richardson, Achane, and Kincaid. 1.07 - 1.10. So 3rd or 4th RB.
 
I took him at 1.10, 1.9, and 1.8 in 3 different rookie dynasty drafts (1qb leagues of course) over the last week. He fell in another league to the 2.2 pick but that's the farthest I've seen him go.
 
Got him at 1.12 in a 12 team 1QB. Was pleasantly surprised he dropped to me.

I burned a decent pick not to take that chance and the way the draft went, I'm not sure I wouldn't have gotten him at 1.12, so I don't advise doing what I did nor am I looking for confirmation I necessarily made the right move. All sorts of arguments pro and con. I might have jumped the gun and not let the draft come to me. I'll do that sometimes. I spent a future first-round pick two years ago to for that year's 2.04 and 2.5 and took Micah Parsons and Jamin Davis, so my impatience suited me well there. Let's hope Miller has the same career arc as Parsons.
He's definitely on my radar in my dynasty league. Where do you rNks him among the rookie RB's?
3rd
 
This guy really does seem to spread out the dynasty vs redraft value. Long term he seems like a keeper. This year not so much.
I realize this is a couple weeks old but as of right now he is still going 13th/14th round in redraft. At that price we should all be drafting him just to stop our opponents from doing so. There is a very non zero chance Miller does more than spot duty while Kamara is out. There is an obvious path to him being the number 1 there and although I can agree it may be a mirage, at those prices it is criminal not to try and see what happens.
 
I took him at 1.10, 1.9, and 1.8 in 3 different rookie dynasty drafts (1qb leagues of course) over the last week. He fell in another league to the 2.2 pick but that's the farthest I've seen him go.
I took him at 2.05 in my rookie draft. 12 team PPR, IDP, 1 QB.
 
People probably already know what I think about Miller, but Player Profiler recently reviewed the Third Round RBs from this year.


"Miller is a more than solid between-the-tackles runner. He makes people miss in a phone booth. Additionally, Miller constantly churns forward for extra yards and drags defenders with him. He also has breakaway speed. We don’t have concrete proof with Miller missing the combine and pro day testing rehabbing a knee injury, but he was one of two other power five runners with at least four rushes of 50+ yards. Michigan’s Donovan Edwards was the only other, per PFF.

...

Third-round rookie running backs aren’t the safe and explosive bet that second-round rookie running backs are. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t worth taking shots on either. Of these four, Kendre Miller has the best combination of opportunities to become a potential workhorse as well as having the build to do so. He’s my pick of this bunch, but even he needs some things to fall in his direction."
 
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Saints RB Kendre Miller (knee) isn't participating at mandatory OTAs.​

Miller has yet to practice while recovering from a January torn meniscus. There was hope Miller would be cleared for limited reps this month but the Saints have continued to move him slowly. Miller's timetable has him on track to be cleared for the start of the Saints' preseason.
SOURCE: NOLA.com
Jun 16, 2023, 7:49 PM ET
 
Not new information. All this sweet talk was after the January injury.

But: Feel like we have seen guys miss camp time early, and by the time they are healthy, the bullet train has left the station.

I only say that because it's easy to dismiss an injury, oh whatever, he'll be back before the regular season. But mid-round players who miss a bunch of camp, that CAN be a big deal.
 
Saints activated RB Kendre Miller (knee) from the active/PUP list.

The third-round rookie has passed his physical. This clears the way for Miller to see preseason action, though it is possible the Saints will keep the training wheels on as he works his way back into shape following a torn meniscus.
 
Dynasty potential seems obvious with Kendre, but what do people think of his value in redraft?

Personally, if I decide to go zero-RB he's on the list of potential RBs. I feel like this is going to be the year Kamara fades into the background.
 
Dynasty potential seems obvious with Kendre, but what do people think of his value in redraft?

Personally, if I decide to go zero-RB he's on the list of potential RBs. I feel like this is going to be the year Kamara fades into the background.
I drafted him to be my RB2 in 2024 so Redraft might not be my view, and as the season goes on, if NOS is out of playoffs, Kamara could be faded (especially if he has an "incentive laden contract" after his bad PR). Miller & Jamal Williams (31 yo) will split more of the work, but I think the Offense will run thru Olave.
In Zero-RB, looking at the end of the season value is a gamble. Kamara might not be yanked until after week 8-10 so temper your expectations.

And I really like him.
 
Dynasty potential seems obvious with Kendre, but what do people think of his value in redraft?

Personally, if I decide to go zero-RB he's on the list of potential RBs. I feel like this is going to be the year Kamara fades into the background.
Yep. Been targeting him heavy in redraft and bestball.
 
Dynasty potential seems obvious with Kendre, but what do people think of his value in redraft?

Personally, if I decide to go zero-RB he's on the list of potential RBs. I feel like this is going to be the year Kamara fades into the background.
I thought last year was a perfect recipe for zero RB builds and I was right. I think this year is even better. Or anchor RB whatever but the main point is that in the late rounds you're supposed to draft lots of RBs and Miller is a painfully obvious target. Even if it is a miss it fits within the scope of the light-RB strategy. A couple of those late picks *need* to hit. But that's why you take several. But he is as obvious as they get and I'm still surprised at his ADP, but obviously his health has been and still is a question. Awesome to see him get cleared though.
 
Dynasty potential seems obvious with Kendre, but what do people think of his value in redraft?

Personally, if I decide to go zero-RB he's on the list of potential RBs. I feel like this is going to be the year Kamara fades into the background.
I'm in the camp that likes him a lot in dynasty, took him in 5 leagues in round one.

I am not really keen on him in redraft where I need to take him in large part because I don't agree with your assessment on Kamara.
 
I like how this kid talks and respect or deference to Kamara. That's gonna go a long way with the possible suspension and all
 
As Sig says, "the drum beat is getting louder".

I'm glad Miller was healthy enough to get into training camp. The Kamara 1-1 chats are encouraging.
 

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