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RB Kendre Miller, NO (1 Viewer)

Taysom also has broken ribs, so that seemingly takes him out of the equation for a bit as well
Has this been reported about Hill? Gotta link?
TIA
It was on my player page on my sleeper app. I have Taysom but they play Monday night, and I'm desperately trying not to have to play Mark Andrews at TE. "Fractures" according to Katherine Terrell of ESPN.

Relevant to Kendre Miller because Hill is kind of the de facto RB2 for fantasy purposes. Jamal Williams doesn't seem very good anymore.
 
Saw him get scooped up. As a Kamara manager that makes me nervous. What exactly is the upshot here? lol
The upshot is that Kamara is older, is getting a lot of work and he might not be able to sustain it without his efficiency dropping off or being able to stay healthy.

He's a handcuff who could potentially enter the flex conversation if they want to keep Kamara moderately fresh.
 
Saw him get scooped up. As a Kamara manager that makes me nervous. What exactly is the upshot here? lol
The upshot is that Kamara is older, is getting a lot of work and he might not be able to sustain it without his efficiency dropping off or being able to stay healthy.

He's a handcuff who could potentially enter the flex conversation if they want to keep Kamara moderately fresh.
I imagine they'd love to cut down on Kamara's workload with the playoffs in mind. Coming into the season, the thought was that Miller would emerge as the 1A/1B alongside Alvin, but Miller's propensity for getting hurt to the dismay of Allen dashed those hopes for the time being. All depends on whether Allen has developed any faith in Kendre going forward.
 
Saw him get scooped up. As a Kamara manager that makes me nervous. What exactly is the upshot here? lol
The upshot is that Hill could be out a while, and Miller could be the only RB in that building with any talent left if Kamara got dinged. It's not hard imagining him running with the job down the stretch if it's just him vs Williams. If not, throw a dart at someone else in a few weeks
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
 
He's available on our 16 team ppr redraft waiver wire, and while I'm tempted to add him, I am already stashing Korum and Jaylen Wright, who I feel more comfortable holding for a potential later season payoff. Any thoughts?
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
I'm sure a big part of it was tough love by Allen, but it won't get him on the field much regardless if he keeps getting nicked up.
 
Miller looked good for stretches last year. Kamara can't continue to carry this load at his age. If he stays healthy, we'll see Miller in some capacity this year.
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
 
He's available on our 16 team ppr redraft waiver wire, and while I'm tempted to add him, I am already stashing Korum and Jaylen Wright, who I feel more comfortable holding for a potential later season payoff. Any thoughts?

If he's active this week and you don't have Kyren/Achane I would cut either to see what kind of usage he gets. Both those guys are 3rd or lower on the dc. Miller could be #2.
 
Miller looked good for stretches last year. Kamara can't continue to carry this load at his age. If he stays healthy, we'll see Miller in some capacity this year.
lol, some capacity is quite the wide range of outcomes.
Miller has a broad range outcomes :shrug:

This is what Miller is at this point. A lotto ticket running back who if he hits, you win and if he misses, you move on. Worth a stash to see what happens.
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
Tatum Bell? lol
I can't believe this is still a thing. Just like Jermichael Finley. Find some new material. :)
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
Tatum Bell? lol
I can't believe this is still a thing. Just like Jermichael Finley. Find some new material. :)
lmao back in the day everything was a ploy to motivate Tatum Bell
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
Tatum Bell? lol
I can't believe this is still a thing. Just like Jermichael Finley. Find some new material. :)
lmao back in the day everything was a ploy to motivate Tatum Bell
keywords, "back in the day". Hell, we're almost to the point where some fantasy players don't even know who Tatum Bell is.
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
Tatum Bell? lol
I can't believe this is still a thing. Just like Jermichael Finley. Find some new material. :)
lmao back in the day everything was a ploy to motivate Tatum Bell
keywords, "back in the day". Hell, we're almost to the point where some fantasy players don't even know who Tatum Bell is.
Next you will be telling me to Nevah bench Stephen Davis.
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
Tatum Bell? lol
I can't believe this is still a thing. Just like Jermichael Finley. Find some new material. :)
lmao back in the day everything was a ploy to motivate Tatum Bell
keywords, "back in the day". Hell, we're almost to the point where some fantasy players don't even know who Tatum Bell is.
Next you will be telling me to Nevah bench Stephen Davis.
I think it's the complete opposite. If anything I was saying to forget guys like Tatum Bell who weren't really that good, or at least find new material. Don't you think "ploy to motivate Tatum Bell" has run its course? If not, then knock yourself out with it.
 
Back to Kendre Miller

I suppose he will come off the IR this week and everyone will need to activate him.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
I don't think the coach is in love with him, so there is that. In redraft I wouldn't waste my time. In dynasty he's rostered everywhere and his owners are praying for any life.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
Meh. The head coach hates him - I feel like if kamara goes down then it becomes rbbc.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
I think you got the right read on it.
Agreed - I think Allen despises him due to his propensity for getting hurt, not his ability/talent. Seems like the opportunity may be there for Miller if the coach is willing to give it to him.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
I think you got the right read on it.
Agreed - I think Allen despises him due to his propensity for getting hurt, not his ability/talent. Seems like the opportunity may be there for Miller if the coach is willing to give it to him.
IMO it is kind of silly for the coach to take that position. There have been very good players have a run of bad luck with injuries early in their career and overcame it. It borders on unfair.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
I think you got the right read on it.
Agreed - I think Allen despises him due to his propensity for getting hurt, not his ability/talent. Seems like the opportunity may be there for Miller if the coach is willing to give it to him.
IMO it is kind of silly for the coach to take that position. There have been very good players have a run of bad luck with injuries early in their career and overcame it. It borders on unfair.
Fully agree, coaches sometimes hold unfair grudges like anyone else. To be fair though, we don't know what else is going on behind the scenes. In any event, from a bird's eye view, they have morphed far away from the high powered offense they were in the first few weeks. Seem to be running Kamara into the ground and Carr is possibly in danger of missing time. Maybe Miller can be a spark on offense.
 
Easy to mistake frustration for "hate". Maybe Miller is in the dog house. Maybe they just want him on the field.
 
What's everyone's opinion about him? He seems to be a must-pickup if you have the roster space. Kamara is an older RB taking a heavy workload and there's no one else to give him a serious breather out there.
I think you got the right read on it.
Agreed - I think Allen despises him due to his propensity for getting hurt, not his ability/talent. Seems like the opportunity may be there for Miller if the coach is willing to give it to him.
Allen needs to be fired just like Saleh. He's not HC material. The gameplan and execution last night were terrible. The Saints were not playing to win, they were playing to keep it from being a blowout. Your take on Allen's thoughts about Miller are probably on point, but Miller is still only 22 and could thrive with a new staff/system.
 
I'm hoping the comments bashing Miller were meant to motivate him rather than Allen just having no interest in the player. I still believe in Miller, especially in this run scheme. I will be surprised if Kamara does not sit out at some stage of this season with the usage he is getting.
....It's all a ploy.......

No. i cant do this.
Tatum Bell? lol
I can't believe this is still a thing. Just like Jermichael Finley. Find some new material. :)
lmao back in the day everything was a ploy to motivate Tatum Bell
keywords, "back in the day". Hell, we're almost to the point where some fantasy players don't even know who Tatum Bell is.
Next you will be telling me to Nevah bench Stephen Davis.
I think it's the complete opposite. If anything I was saying to forget guys like Tatum Bell who weren't really that good, or at least find new material. Don't you think "ploy to motivate Tatum Bell" has run its course? If not, then knock yourself out with it.
The whole point of my post was that I couldn't say it because it had run its course.
 
Looks like you're going to have to activate Miller in your league some time this week. I have a hard roster decision in one league and I'm sure you do as well.

Kendre Miller (hamstring) logs full practice Wednesday

by Leo Sells | Saints Correspondent | Wed, Oct 9th 7:43pm EDT

Kendre Miller (hamstring) logged a full practice session on Wednesday. (New Orleans Saints)

Fantasy Impact:
Miller was able to log a full practice session on Monday. He has yet to play this season because of a hamstring injury, but he seems to be primed to make his return in Week 6. He may take a few touches away from Alvin Kamara moving forward, who gets the vast majority of touches in New Orleans' backfield.
 
Looks like you're going to have to activate Miller in your league some time this week. I have a hard roster decision in one league and I'm sure you do as well.

Kendre Miller (hamstring) logs full practice Wednesday

by Leo Sells | Saints Correspondent | Wed, Oct 9th 7:43pm EDT

Kendre Miller (hamstring) logged a full practice session on Wednesday. (New Orleans Saints)

Fantasy Impact:
Miller was able to log a full practice session on Monday. He has yet to play this season because of a hamstring injury, but he seems to be primed to make his return in Week 6. He may take a few touches away from Alvin Kamara moving forward, who gets the vast majority of touches in New Orleans' backfield.
Yahoo leagues I’ll just be leaving him in my IR spot until I have to make moves next week.
 
Looks like you're going to have to activate Miller in your league some time this week. I have a hard roster decision in one league and I'm sure you do as well.

Kendre Miller (hamstring) logs full practice Wednesday

by Leo Sells | Saints Correspondent | Wed, Oct 9th 7:43pm EDT

Kendre Miller (hamstring) logged a full practice session on Wednesday. (New Orleans Saints)

Fantasy Impact:
Miller was able to log a full practice session on Monday. He has yet to play this season because of a hamstring injury, but he seems to be primed to make his return in Week 6. He may take a few touches away from Alvin Kamara moving forward, who gets the vast majority of touches in New Orleans' backfield.
Yahoo leagues I’ll just be leaving him in my IR spot until I have to make moves next week.
In the leagues I'm in that I commish for MFL, if he is activated this week, teams must activate him this week also, because if MFL activates him this week, teams having Miller on their IR would make their roster illegal, thus requiring them to activate him.
 
Practiced in full today while Kamara DNP with hand/hip injuries.

Something to keep an eye on.
Does Kamara ever practice on Wednesday?
No
Today will be important
My question was rhetorical, but thanks for confirming for the masses. Of course Kamara never practices, but he always plays. He's one of the toughest RBs in the NFL. He's already played through broken ribs this year. :oops: Pretty sure a "hand injury" isn't going to phase him.
 
"In the leagues I'm in that I commish for MFL, if he is activated this week, teams must activate him this week also, because if MFL activates him this week, teams having Miller on their IR would make their roster illegal, thus requiring them to activate him."
If I understand what you've said correctly it seems like your site has the same default setting as NFL.com. I'm confident that the setting is what otherwise renders the fewest complaints. But it's junk, I'd be more open to it if the options were something other than just an up or down. Perhaps sometime in the future they will. I really don't like the assortment of designations besides that of IR. That a player can remain in there when his team is on their bye & he wouldn't have been available to his team owner anyway is totally unacceptable!

That's an unfair advantage, as is leaving a player in there when the team owner isn't sure about him & has determined he isn't going to start him. Oh, but there's a penalty for doing that. True, but it doesn't always serve as that great of a deterrent. The only penalty is that you can't add, which is $h!++y. Consider that in order to add the team owner is weighing not only whether to pull his player from IR & drop a player. He then has to drop a 2nd player in order to gain the player on the wire that he wants. Frequently, especially later in the year, it isn't worth it. To me, it's a means to cheat.
 
"In the leagues I'm in that I commish for MFL, if he is activated this week, teams must activate him this week also, because if MFL activates him this week, teams having Miller on their IR would make their roster illegal, thus requiring them to activate him."
If I understand what you've said correctly it seems like your site has the same default setting as NFL.com. I'm confident that the setting is what otherwise renders the fewest complaints. But it's junk, I'd be more open to it if the options were something other than just an up or down. Perhaps sometime in the future they will. I really don't like the assortment of designations besides that of IR. That a player can remain in there when his team is on their bye & he wouldn't have been available to his team owner anyway is totally unacceptable!

That's an unfair advantage, as is leaving a player in there when the team owner isn't sure about him & has determined he isn't going to start him. Oh, but there's a penalty for doing that. True, but it doesn't always serve as that great of a deterrent. The only penalty is that you can't add, which is $h!++y. Consider that in order to add the team owner is weighing not only whether to pull his player from IR & drop a player. He then has to drop a 2nd player in order to gain the player on the wire that he wants. Frequently, especially later in the year, it isn't worth it. To me, it's a means to cheat.
I believe MFL allows the commissioner to prevent a lineup submission if there is a roster violation.

No lineup = you lose so you are motivated to fix it. But again, by pass it by submitting it early. NFL changes players status Friday ... Most leagues, Waivers run Wednesday.
 
I believe MFL allows the commissioner to prevent a lineup submission if there is a roster violation.
No lineup = you lose so you are motivated to fix it. But again, by pass it by submitting it early. NFL changes players status Friday ... Most leagues, Waivers run Wednesday.
That's excellent & obliterates everything I said. Unfortunately, @nfl.com that's not the case at all as team owners can manipulate the IR spot to their advantage. Thank you for the insight!
 
"In the leagues I'm in that I commish for MFL, if he is activated this week, teams must activate him this week also, because if MFL activates him this week, teams having Miller on their IR would make their roster illegal, thus requiring them to activate him."
If I understand what you've said correctly it seems like your site has the same default setting as NFL.com. I'm confident that the setting is what otherwise renders the fewest complaints. But it's junk, I'd be more open to it if the options were something other than just an up or down. Perhaps sometime in the future they will. I really don't like the assortment of designations besides that of IR. That a player can remain in there when his team is on their bye & he wouldn't have been available to his team owner anyway is totally unacceptable!

That's an unfair advantage, as is leaving a player in there when the team owner isn't sure about him & has determined he isn't going to start him. Oh, but there's a penalty for doing that. True, but it doesn't always serve as that great of a deterrent. The only penalty is that you can't add, which is $h!++y. Consider that in order to add the team owner is weighing not only whether to pull his player from IR & drop a player. He then has to drop a 2nd player in order to gain the player on the wire that he wants. Frequently, especially later in the year, it isn't worth it. To me, it's a means to cheat.
I believe MFL allows the commissioner to prevent a lineup submission if there is a roster violation.

No lineup = you lose so you are motivated to fix it. But again, by pass it by submitting it early. NFL changes players status Friday ... Most leagues, Waivers run Wednesday.

I don't think that option invalidates an already submitted lineup, though. So if you are ok riding with the lineup you have right before he gets activated, MFL won't penalize you.

And that seems unfair to some people, and it probably is, but the converse is what happens if a player is activated (maybe even Saturday or Sunday morning) and the manager has no notice of it? Most managers aren't checking lineups every day.
 
"In the leagues I'm in that I commish for MFL, if he is activated this week, teams must activate him this week also, because if MFL activates him this week, teams having Miller on their IR would make their roster illegal, thus requiring them to activate him."
If I understand what you've said correctly it seems like your site has the same default setting as NFL.com. I'm confident that the setting is what otherwise renders the fewest complaints. But it's junk, I'd be more open to it if the options were something other than just an up or down. Perhaps sometime in the future they will. I really don't like the assortment of designations besides that of IR. That a player can remain in there when his team is on their bye & he wouldn't have been available to his team owner anyway is totally unacceptable!

That's an unfair advantage, as is leaving a player in there when the team owner isn't sure about him & has determined he isn't going to start him. Oh, but there's a penalty for doing that. True, but it doesn't always serve as that great of a deterrent. The only penalty is that you can't add, which is $h!++y. Consider that in order to add the team owner is weighing not only whether to pull his player from IR & drop a player. He then has to drop a 2nd player in order to gain the player on the wire that he wants. Frequently, especially later in the year, it isn't worth it. To me, it's a means to cheat.
I believe MFL allows the commissioner to prevent a lineup submission if there is a roster violation.

No lineup = you lose so you are motivated to fix it. But again, by pass it by submitting it early. NFL changes players status Friday ... Most leagues, Waivers run Wednesday.
MFL does disallow lineup submission if there is a roster violation, but if they don't submit a lineup at all, the lineup and roster is as it was the previous week and the commish has to step in and force a lineup submission and valid roster, and if that means the team has to activate a player that is no longer on IR, or remove players on a bye, then that must be done in the leagues I commish, or I will do it for them.

Edit to add: We go by what the hosting site (MFL) says about who is currently on IR. To do otherwise opens a can of worms you don't want, or I don't want to deal with. I do believe MFL follows with NFL.com and I like that.
 
Was selfishly hoping they'd wait one more week because I got him on some teams with Aubrey and got to work around clearing that roster spot next week and this won't help but it's on, he's activated.
 

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