reachCorrectedWas in this same exact situation and getting the same results and felt the same way about bringing it up for a third year in a row. What I wound up doing that third year instead of suggesting to get rid of the rule, was playing into the reason they felt it was necessary in the first place. I suggested that any team that wants to trade future year picks just needs to pay the buy in for that season, that way they are actually tied to the longevity of the team (and the league). So ifI did lobby to remove the rule the year after it was put into place. But less than half the league liked the idea of removing it. I could bring it up every year, but I don't want to be insufferable.Yeah I can understand not wanting to have that limitation.Personally I hate the rule. But I can understand that perspective. We've only had maybe 3 departures in the last 10 years, if I had to guess a number on it. And I don't really think any were "gutted". But you never know when someone might take advantage of the system.I do think not allowing picks to be traded more than one year away makes for a healthier league as teams cannot be gutted for multiple seasons of picks and then abandoned, leaving that team with no viable assets for multiple seasons.Yep, that's a good explanation. And my comment was only half-facetious, as my dynasty strategy is similar to what Bozeman was saying overall, but (hopefully) not so literally "selling all point-scorers for picks". It's a balance, but you generally want as much value as you can get, at all times. Especially in my league where trading picks more than 1 year out has been banned for the last couple seasons, I very much try to hoard picks. Then immediately after the draft I can try to flip one or two of my new rookies for next year's picks (thereby "sort of" circumventing the ban).I couldnt find Bozeman Bruisers original post here but its something I would like to respond to.Dude, you're spilling my strategy! Some people from my league could be here and figure it out.Reading these comments, I am glad I don't play dynasty. It looks like the strategy is to hoard picks, then when those picks turn into points trade them for more picks, and sprinkle in some dog **** to make the deal seem sweeter
Do any of you actually enjoy winning fantasy football games and championships or is it all about hoarding picks?
eta: this hot take is not just based on this thread, it seems every dynasty talk I see is about cashing out guys who are scoring points today for future picks that may score points years down the road
I think there is a lot of merit to this perspective of preferring players who are playing now and can potentially score points that can help your team win games now. Many managers in dynasty formats are perpetually chasing the future and not living in the present.
At the same time in dynasty rookie picks are the most fluid form of currency a manager can own because they are not tied to a specific asset, which will have more variable value depending on competitors priorities and current roster construction. Some of those teams may only be seeking players at one position but not others, and their opinions on the specific players will be different as well.
A draft pick could be used on any position and any player they might like. Either by drafting that player with the pick, or by trading that pick for a different player they want.
Because of the limitations of roster spots the draft picks are a way of expanding the overall value of your team. If you trade a player for a pick you then free up a roster spot to pick up someone else. Rinse and repeat with several transactions made this way.
Because in dynasty all players are kept year after year it is possible for dynasty teams to build up their rosters with many strong players as the core of their team and not have the need for free agent replacements to improve their starting lineups.
So these additional roster spots are used to churn free agent players and the more of those that can be sold for picks, the greater the value of the overall team becomes.
Draft picks often function like bonds as well. Their value increases as they mature, when those picks get closer to the actual draft they will be used in. So the manager can use timing with their trades to leverage more value out of those picks, by buying them when their cash in point is far away and selling them when that point is near.
Depends on the league of course, but from a commishioners perspective not allowing that can help the league be more stable.
In some leagues managers are committed enough long term for this to be less of a concern, but I tend to agree with that limitation being more healthy for the league in a vacuum.
If its long term league as you say try to lobby for a change and if enough owners agree maybe it can be changed.
I have played in a lot of different dynasty leagues and some of them not having this limitation would be fine.
Others I have seen a lot of turnover in managers and even leagues folding. This is what this rule is trying to prevent.
I have seen leagues where managers are completely win now and some of them even cash in for a year then bail afterwards leaving the new owner in a difficult spot trying to fix that team afterwards, or perhaps the worse example is the manager who becomes the victim of too many trades then leaves an even worse roster than the win now managers did.
Rosters where you have to pay someone to take over a long term rebuild. Less risk of that happening if they cant sell all their picks multiple seasons ahead.
you'reyour buy in is $100 and you traded your 2024 and 2025 first round picks this offseason to get 1.01 and draft Bijan, you also pre-paid the buy ins for those next two seasons. This also means if an owner does cripple a team and flake out, it makes it a lot easier to backfill their spot by telling the new potential owner "yeah the team is kinda crap and you're missing your next two first round picks, but the buy-in's are on the house and you can play for free these next two years while you rebuild". It universally passed.
edit: posted before reading all the following comments and seeing someone else also say this. TLDR, what that guy said lol.