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You're comparing apples and oranges. Elliott is entering the 4th year of his contract. Gordon is entering the 5th year of his contract. In his 4th year, Gordon made $1.9M, but when teams exercise the 5th year option for players drafted in the first round, they get a sizable raise for that 5th year. Elliott's salary is set to jump to $9.1M in his 5th year next year.
Disagree completely. And I really don't think Gordon is prepared to have a lengthy holdout and forego the associated money.
Rivers will not retire at the end of this season. He'll be back at least through the 2021 season IMO.
I'm comparing two RBs in the current season. Yes, Elliott has a 5th year at this point guaranteed for injury only. I'm just asking if Zeke deciding to play this year for $3.8m would affect Gordon's choice of whether he should play for $5.6. If nothing changes, and both go into next year - Zeke is doing it with $9.1M guaranteed, and Gordon for whatever he can get on the open market (or perhaps a $12m tag).
Clearly, Gordon knows what the elite RBs are making, and he has stated his position that he deserves to get paid much more than he is being paid. So obviously Elliott's contract doesn't influence his thinking, and I'm sure it is because he understands that Elliott's contract is dictated.
Do you see any way of him being a Charger next year? Do they want to bring him back more than another team would pay him.
I could see them paying him $5M to $8M, though I wouldn't want them to do that. He has made it clear he is looking for $13M+. The only way I could see him back is if there is literally no market for him, and he is forced to accept the Chargers price.
That's the part I don't get - aside from the Chargers not having to tag him in 2020 until after this season.
I don't believe the Chargers have any intent to tag him next year, which is where this breaks down. They have too many other needs to spend $12M+ on a single RB, especially one who has gotten hurt and missed multiple games due to injury in 3 of his 4 seasons and has a significant injury history with his knee.
Pitt didn’t make the playoffs last year which likely wasn’t because Bell wasn’t there but the point remains.tkrull said:
Exactly. I don't understand how that is only $2-3mil apart either.
That list is meaningless. They should not sign him for anything close to what he wants. They have too many other new contracts coming for players more important to the team (Rivers, Bosa, Ingram, Pouncey, Allen, Henry, etc.).
Agree with the first part. I doubt they will bring in any veterans, though. First off, it is complicated by the fact that Gordon is under contract, and if/when he reports, his salary hits the cap. So they have to preserve cap room for that. More importantly, I think they have 3 RBs they really like (Ekeler, Jackson, and Newsome) and another that could earn a roster spot (Cox). Unless one of them gets hurt, I don't see a veteran being a need.
99.9% correct:
The aren't enough teams as stupid as the Jets for this to work. There is a reason why teams don't give RB's big contracts: It is a terrible idea.
But the Jets are now committed to Bell. What team is going to be willing to pay Gordon that kind of money? I am skeptical any team will do that. In other words, I doubt any team will be as stupid as the Jets were with Bell.
The overall point is if teams have figured out how fragile the RB position is...the RB’s are now recognizing that as well. If Melvin Gordon has another Gordon type year, does he get a better contract in FA in 2020 than if he were a FA right now? I don’t think so. If anything, teams will say...that’s another 325 touches where you put more tread on those tires.
There isn't going to be a huge deal for him if he skips this year. No way he can make up the 5.6M he loses.TheDirtyWord said:
Why not? He wouldn’t be able to score a large deal to the highest bidder with a ton of guarantees?
The same reason the Chargers won't give him one now. It would be stupid to do so. The NFL has figured out RB's contribute less to team success than many other positions. Plus Gordan has an injury history and even a 3 year deal would take him to age 30.
Deals that have been signed by RB’s in the last 12 months...let’s just look at the guarantees...
Gordon has averaged 106 YFS & .9 TD’s per game the last 3 seasons. There’s a reason he’s always drafted in Round 1.
Using per game numbers doesn't take into account that he has missed significant time in all but one season in his career. More so, those numbers are good, but they are not close to the guys you are comparing him to. Last year was his first season breaking 4 yds/r.
OK, so even if not in "that class", what about....
How many of those deals look good? The Chargers have been rumored to have offered a deal similar to the Freeman one. I am not sure what his career earnings have to do with how much he should be paid in the future.
Look good or look bad - I'm just saying that's the market. That's the market that Gordon is a part of.
