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I can't even respond to this. You're right. He should change careers. Plenty of things Melvin Gordon could do to make $10MM per year, I'm quite sure. He shouldn't have signed that slotted rookie deal four years ago which fixed his wages for five years regardless of his performance. He should've just went and taught at his local high school.
The chargers are 1-2. What it showed is Ekeler is a great receiving back and medicore rusher (we knew this and that will be his role on the team). Jackson is a good runner and medicore receiver. Gordon is the best rusher and still a great receiving back. This is the main reason he will see at minimum 65% of the snaps.
hey whatever. not trying to win the internet or nothing but starter has meant 60+% of all snaps in the Charger history last 10 years if not way more. That is a lot fyi but we will have to wait and see won't we. If you are right I will give you a like on your post Jan 2020.
LOL. Doesn’t matter to me, I have Gordon and Ekeler.
Didn't look it up but you can.. his usage rate is high. Right? They will grind him like hamburger and Eckler will catch passes and spell him. JMO.LOL. Doesn’t matter to me, I have Gordon and Ekeler.
It’s just odd to see the term workhorse. IMO that implies a fairly high usage rate.
This is a bit tricky, but I have to imagine that if he suits up he will be getting a good number of snaps. I will play him against the lowly Dolphins if that’s the case over James White.
You don't want to be benching White this week. NE will be feeding him in the receiving game. Burkhead and Edelman are both banged up and they have no healthy TE's . . . so they won't be able to run much.
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I doubt Anthony Lynn would get any satisfaction but I don't think highly of the Spanos family. People can be petty.
The Spanos family is the definition of suck in SD. NO ONE here would piss on them if they were on fire. I have to say though I doubt they wish injury to any player in their employ. Truly. They have their own injuries. Self inflicted or not. See patriarch.
Alex and Dean may be lousy owners, but none of the Spanoses are wishing injury on anybody.
A not insignificant part of the population is selfish, petty, and vindictive. You often see the selfishness on this board when someone is happy when a player gets hurt because it helps their fantasy team. And then that person gets chastised. It's not an infrequent occurrence. From what I've seen of the Spanos family, they seem shallower than your average owner.
You appear to be making a really weird inference about people you seem not to know all that well.
By what percentage chance do you think he reduced the likelihood of suffering an injury that would have affected his future earnings?
No one is saying you are wrong. Some might disagree. I'm one of those who do. For all we know they are devil worshipers and are currently rubbing chicken blood all over themselves and wishing Melvin spontaneously combusts on the 50 yard line. Just as he was scoring on a 79 yard td.... all the while ordering from Doordash orange chicken from Panda Express. No insult intended but you get my point right?
Holy statistical cherry-picking Batman!!!!Career Stats:
Yds/Car: Gordon: 4.0 / Ekeler 5.1
Carries/TD: Gordon 32 / Ekeler 27
Yds/Rec: Gordon 8.7 / Ekeler 10.9
Catch% : Gordon 74.9% / Ekeler 78.7%
Yds/Touch: Gordon 4.8 / Ekeler 6.8
I do think it would be wise for them to get their money’s worth before letting Gordon go and handing the job to the superior back next year.
Gordon will likely get every chance to carry the bigger slice of this shared backfield, this year. However, if Gordon reverts to his sub 4.0YPC ways, I could see Ekeler possibly taking back a larger share down the stretch.
Well he missed a quarter of the season and training camp so probably somewhere between 25-30%Maurile Tremblay said:
True. I forgot . Thanks for the accuracy check. Gordon is still going to be hamburger though.
So your perspective is that it is a given that if a RB participates in training camp, preseason, and the regular season, he is guaranteed to suffer an injury that would affect his future earnings? That is what you are representing here.
Let's put some numbers to it.
You can definitively say that the RBs were not the problem? I don’t even have to go back a half game to come up with plausible rationale. You think the Chargers might have liked to utilize their best RB in the 2nd half of a game in which they held a 17-7 halftime lead on the road in Houston? You don’t at all think there’s a chance that Gordon may have allowed them to lean on the run just a little bit? Sustain a drive or two? Or did it make more sense to end a game like that with a 46:18 pass to run ratio? Sure seemed like they might have a more balanced attack with Gordon available than not. I can say that’s definitively plausible.
It’s a bit ridiculous to state emphatically what would or wouldn’t have happened.
Can you show me where I did that? I said that IMO the RBs were not the problem. I said that if anyone thinks Gordon would have made the difference, I would like to hear their rationale as to why.
I don’t think it’s crazy to envision a scenario where the outcome changes with Gordon in the game.
You can put any percentage on it you want (not saying you’re right or wrong), all that matters is that if these guys get in their heads that their best chance at a big pay day is holding out and reducing their exposure to injury, that’s what they’re gonna do. Folks in here saying he got terrible advice and should fire his agent aren’t considering that may have been his plan all along. Regardless how small a chance, one bad knee injury and he can kiss his contract goodbye. It’s like risking $25 mil in the long run to earn $3 mil now. No matter how small a chance, it’s still a big risk
@georg013 I open the door for you to show non-cumulative stats that contradict what I’ve shared here. That’s every per touch/carry metric available that I’m aware of.georg013 said:
Didn’t he only miss three game checks? Are you counting fines because in almost every case they’re waived by the team when the player comes back?
Can’t confirm this but have read players are paid on Wednesdays, in which case he missed 4 regular season checks. (Making it odd he chose to report on a Thursday.)
Just curious which player do you think would have better averages.@georg013 I open the door for you to show non-cumulative stats that contradict what I’ve shared here. That’s every per touch/carry metric available that I’m aware of.
Please, Share the non counting metrics where Gordon excels with the class.
Unless your argument is that Gordon is a creature of opportunity and is highly volume dependent, in which case we would agree
Before the straw man reads his head: I don’t disagree Gordon gets first crack at the big slice of this pie. I’m purely looking at Quality of output, which you seem to question.
According to Spotrac, Gordon is worth around $11.75M per year and he's getting older by the minute. I think a team would make an offer however as many point out, there are going to be juicy options in the draft next year. How many teams want to commit $50M to Gordon over 4-5 years? $20M guaranteed perhaps?
Ahhh the old “question with a question” strategy. So what I’m hearing is you DON’T have a metric that shows Gordon is a better back?
