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Footballguy
Disagree
I feel like this is what the Abdullah drafters are doing. Gordon's more talented than Ameer.
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RB Melvin Gordon, BAL (4 Viewers)
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Tau837
Footballguy
San Diego Chargers RB Melvin Gordon not expected to play vs. Arizona Cardinals
I haven't heard anything about the bolded, wonder where that is coming from?
massraider
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Or someone less credible, like acee. Sounds like utter nonsense so that is my first suspicion these days.
Tau837
Footballguy
We'll see soon enough. The Chargers will either trust him with a lot of pass protection snaps or they won't. My guess is the latter.
karmarooster
Footballguy
Looking like Woodhead will return to his roll from 2013? Could he get another 100 carries and 75 receptions?
Looks like Gordon is not going to be solid in PPR leagues. I think there might be a buy-low opportunity coming for him in the first half of the season. Just doesn't look liked its clicked for him in terms of tip toeing to the line, pass pro issues, time share issues especially on 3rd down and hurry up situations. Has all the look of a slow start for him, but hopefully rounds into form for the 2nd half of the season.
Looks like Gordon is not going to be solid in PPR leagues. I think there might be a buy-low opportunity coming for him in the first half of the season. Just doesn't look liked its clicked for him in terms of tip toeing to the line, pass pro issues, time share issues especially on 3rd down and hurry up situations. Has all the look of a slow start for him, but hopefully rounds into form for the 2nd half of the season.
Shutout
Footballguy
TripItUp
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
This is my fear as I hold the 3rd pick in my rookie draft. I want to take him, but not sure if I'll be able to when I'm on the clock.
spider321
Footballguy
Please pick someone else if Gordon is still sitting there, so that we may all laugh at you for passing on him based on the preseason.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I do realize that every high draft pick pans out in the NFL, however I'd still feel better if he had done something - anything - in the preseason to show why he was so highly drafted. That said, link
addicted2ff
Footballguy
The line better starting getting a lot better really fast because it's looking like Gordon is the type that needs mack truck type holes to go through to get decent yardage.
My theory is that Wisconsin and Bama running backs get so spoiled by their O-lines that they don't learn how to create extra yards on their own during their time in college so they have to learn how to do that in the NFL while running backs running behind worse O-lines have already learned how to do that in college. Just look at how long it's taking Ingram to pan out.
jurb26
Footballguy
Just watched a bunch of his carries and I don't see the doom and gloom here. He looked Ok, but not special. I thought there were a few runs he hit the LOS with urgency and fought for yds that probably weren't there. The Oline looked terrible. Makes sense given the mass reshuffling.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Lacy?
And Gordon is the first one with the tools he has vs. what guys like Ball and Dayne had....
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Lacy AND Ingram.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
From the outset, I was leery of Gordon. Comes into the league with a two down skill set, and so his upside was always going to be capped. Never expected him to look like the second coming of T-Rich though.
jurb26
Footballguy
Wouldn't he have to actually do something in the NFL before we can even call him a flash in the pan?
Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
He tricked the Chargers into burning a 1st rounder, a 4th rounder, and a 5th rounder on him. That is pretty impressive
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am mostly being sarcastic, but the flash in the pan would be his college career. Way too early to judge him though, just playing along with the overreaction extravaganza.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
If he follows the career path of Ingram, there are going to be a lot of sad Gordon owners in here.
Bud
Footballguy
Woodhead was used all over yesterday on all downs, very likely the most valuable SD RB this season. Gordon didn't look like he is going to make defenders miss much but ran very hard falling forward on a few of those runs, constantly churning his legs after contact. I think it was Phil Simms commenting during the game about the stutter steps and a touch of hesitation, needing to plant a foot and be decisive. Noticeable on a few runs. SEA defense is a tough assignment to get your running game going all things considered. Maybe it will just take him until week 9 to break out against the Bears on MNF.
My takeaway from the Chargers game yesterday is get Stevie Johnson as a great value in the draft, he will easily be a top 30 WR and a fantastic WR3.
My takeaway from the Chargers game yesterday is get Stevie Johnson as a great value in the draft, he will easily be a top 30 WR and a fantastic WR3.
addicted2ff
Footballguy
Lacy has been solid that's true. And Ingram has had a role in the league so I guess he gets a pass. Perhaps clumping in Bama with Wisconsin is a bit unfair and maybe it's just Wisconsin.
spider321
Footballguy
+1,000,000
I sincerely hope that most of you are smart, and just trying to drive down his price for your leagues.
Smdh if some of you really believe he won't be at least a top 10(probably top 5) RB in a couple of years.
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cstu
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
From Don't Panic About Melvin Gordon:
Unfortunately, that was the positive take from Bolts from the Blue. This is the negative take: The San Diego Chargers Wasted Their Draft Pick.
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So what are everyone's thoughts on this guy with what we have seen from the Chargers. A lot of times pre-season is just a glorified practice, and teams just want to see how a guy handles running between the tackles with minimal game planning.
I am not sure he had a single run in the pre-season that he had much if any room to run with, which is probably the biggest concern I have with him is the Chargers offensive line. Reports are that the Chargers got 4 new offensive lineman, and that this will take time to gel, and with Gates out for the first 4 weeks. Hopefully, things will pick up for Gordon by week 4-5, and he'll start to get going.
When you look at his College highlights, he definitely is elusive, and explosive with the potential to take it to the house on any play. 2500 yards in College is 2nd most all-time behind Barry Sanders. I mean that can't alll be a product of Wisconsin's system. Montee Ball had 1900 when he was there. Thoughts????
I am not sure he had a single run in the pre-season that he had much if any room to run with, which is probably the biggest concern I have with him is the Chargers offensive line. Reports are that the Chargers got 4 new offensive lineman, and that this will take time to gel, and with Gates out for the first 4 weeks. Hopefully, things will pick up for Gordon by week 4-5, and he'll start to get going.
When you look at his College highlights, he definitely is elusive, and explosive with the potential to take it to the house on any play. 2500 yards in College is 2nd most all-time behind Barry Sanders. I mean that can't alll be a product of Wisconsin's system. Montee Ball had 1900 when he was there. Thoughts????
I watched that last game again last night and the biggest red flag to me was how often woodhead was the RB during the first half. It looked like almost a 50-50 split between him and Gordon. I'd be interested in knowing the actual snap count. Woodhead was out there in every 3d down and obvious passing situation AND was out there on some first and second downs as well.
[Edit: I researched a bit and it appears Gordon had 19 snaps in the Seahawks game compared to 41 for Rivers. So he was indeed in for just about one-half of the snaps unless he came in after Rivers left the game, which I didn't see myself]
I know you can't judge Gordon based on Montee, but it is hard not to when you see gordon struggling to distinguish himself from the other backs on SD's roster.
[Edit: I researched a bit and it appears Gordon had 19 snaps in the Seahawks game compared to 41 for Rivers. So he was indeed in for just about one-half of the snaps unless he came in after Rivers left the game, which I didn't see myself]
I know you can't judge Gordon based on Montee, but it is hard not to when you see gordon struggling to distinguish himself from the other backs on SD's roster.
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Marauder
Footballguy
My take from watching him in the Preseason is that he is having trouble adapting to the zone blocking scheme. He always seems to hesitate for a split second before hitting the hole. Hopefully that is something he can learn, it might just take some time.
I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of fantasy owners who used an early pick on Gordon who will be disappointed early in the season. It might well turn into a good buying opportunity.
I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of fantasy owners who used an early pick on Gordon who will be disappointed early in the season. It might well turn into a good buying opportunity.
Tau837
Footballguy
This is exactly how Mathews and Woodhead were used in 2013, when both were healthy, as I have posted previously. Woodhead had more snaps than Mathews in 2013. However, the possible good news is that Mathews still ranked #4 in the NFL in rushing attempts and #7 in rushing yards.bumpman said:
Nice posting... Yea I think once he gets comfortable and has a little more running room as the offensive line gels things will start to turn around. He is definitely a real threat to take it to the house on any play, as well as still get 2-4 catches a game
Faust
MVP
Why Melvin Gordon should shut it down against 49ers:
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/12432/why-melvin-gordon-should-shut-it-down-vs-49ers
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/12432/why-melvin-gordon-should-shut-it-down-vs-49ers
Gr00vus
Footballguy
It's only encouraging if it translates to improvements in performance on the field. So far, there's been little evidence of that. He needs to get in the game and have some plays run for him this weekend. It's pretty clear he isn't used to the speed of the NFL yet. That doesn't get fixed by not playing in games - "mental reps" and watching film aren't going to help with that.
He is not NFL-ready yet and the Chargers O-line won't be helping this season. A lot of redraft owners will hate themselves.for spending an early pick on Gordon. Just Win Baby called this weeks ago -> Woodhead will play a lot, just as we observe in pre-season.
That said, I have seen nothing to suggest Gordon won't be an RB1 a couple years from now. The shark move is to lure a panicky dynasty owner into trading him on the cheap after Gordon posts a couple 19-for-60 in the first 5-6 weeks.
That said, I have seen nothing to suggest Gordon won't be an RB1 a couple years from now. The shark move is to lure a panicky dynasty owner into trading him on the cheap after Gordon posts a couple 19-for-60 in the first 5-6 weeks.
