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They aren't trading chubb.Little whispers the Browns could trade Nick Chubb to heal their cap. Explain to me how this team has tangibly improved over the last year.
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They aren't trading chubb.Little whispers the Browns could trade Nick Chubb to heal their cap. Explain to me how this team has tangibly improved over the last year.
About two weeks ago in a FFPC league of mine someone gave Chubb and 4.8 for 1.7.Any recent dynasty trades for Chubb? Rebuilding team and looking to move him.
Appreciate it!About two weeks ago in a FFPC league of mine someone gave Chubb and 4.8 for 1.7.Any recent dynasty trades for Chubb? Rebuilding team and looking to move him.
In another FFPC league someone listed him as available for a trade and eventually offered me Chubb and a 2024 third round pick for Pickens and 2.4. I passed and so far he's not been able to move him.
I gave up 1.12/Sutton for Chubb on a contender a few weeks ago.Any recent dynasty trades for Chubb? Rebuilding team and looking to move him.
I have a team where I need a RB and might offer pick 1.08.I gave up 1.12/Sutton for Chubb on a contender a few weeks ago.Any recent dynasty trades for Chubb? Rebuilding team and looking to move him.
It’s not a move I make routinely. But this team is loaded at WR and ready to win it. I had no RBs with the exception of the 1.01. I figured Chubb should be a consistent producer to go with Bijan and whoever else I decide to trade for.I have a team where I need a RB and might offer pick 1.08.I gave up 1.12/Sutton for Chubb on a contender a few weeks ago.Any recent dynasty trades for Chubb? Rebuilding team and looking to move him.
In startups so far (non superflex) it looks like Chubb is going around pick 42. This is before the 4th rookie is off the board. Startup value and regular existing league trade value don't always correlate super well though.
Surprising, yes, but believable. Other than Stevenson and maybe Pollard, is there any back on that list that you would say "no way he outperforms Chubb this year"?Can anyone explain to me how Chubb is not in the top ten? I know it’s fantasy rankings, but I would think he’s top ten?
I don’t disagree to say many on this list can outperform him and maybe it is my homerism and rose tinted glasses I am looking through, but I think it is much more likely to say he is a top ten fantasy back then he is not. We will see.Surprising, yes, but believable. Other than Stevenson and maybe Pollard, is there any back on that list that you would say "no way he outperforms Chubb this year"?Can anyone explain to me how Chubb is not in the top ten? I know it’s fantasy rankings, but I would think he’s top ten?
Those numbers from last season are not encouraging but it was rusty Deshaun.Chubb had 12 rushing TDs last year, 0 after Desean Watson returned. He ran for over 100 yards 7 times, only once after Desean Watson returned.
In Desean's 3 full years starting in Houston, the top backs were:
2018 - Lamar Miller, 210 Carries for 973 Rushing yards, 5 Rushing TDs
2019 - Carlos Hyde, 245 Carries for 1070 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
2020 - David Johnson, 147 Carries for 691 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
I think Nick Chubb talent wise is a top 3-5 back but I think there are legitimate reasons to wonder if Chubb will be a top fantasy back with a full year of Desean at QB.
Chubb also averaged over 3 touches in the red zone in games before Deshaun and just over 1 in games with Deshaun. WR opportunities increased about .5 per game with Deshaun instead of Jacoby.Those numbers from last season are not encouraging but it was rusty Deshaun.Chubb had 12 rushing TDs last year, 0 after Desean Watson returned. He ran for over 100 yards 7 times, only once after Desean Watson returned.
In Desean's 3 full years starting in Houston, the top backs were:
2018 - Lamar Miller, 210 Carries for 973 Rushing yards, 5 Rushing TDs
2019 - Carlos Hyde, 245 Carries for 1070 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
2020 - David Johnson, 147 Carries for 691 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
I think Nick Chubb talent wise is a top 3-5 back but I think there are legitimate reasons to wonder if Chubb will be a top fantasy back with a full year of Desean at QB.
I’m hoping that Deshaun has knocked the rust off and is back to being a top tier QB and that opens the field up for Chubb.
Those guys were trash.Chubb had 12 rushing TDs last year, 0 after Deshaun Watson returned. He ran for over 100 yards 7 times, only once after Deshaun Watson returned.
In Deshaun's 3 full years starting in Houston, the top backs were:
2018 - Lamar Miller, 210 Carries for 973 Rushing yards, 5 Rushing TDs
2019 - Carlos Hyde, 245 Carries for 1070 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
2020 - David Johnson, 147 Carries for 691 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
I think Nick Chubb talent wise is a top 3-5 back but I think there are legitimate reasons to wonder if Chubb will be a top fantasy back with a full year of Deshaun at QB.
They were also out of playoff contention for a while. Why get him killed?Chubb also averaged over 3 touches in the red zone in games before Deshaun and just over 1 in games with Deshaun. WR opportunities increased about .5 per game with Deshaun instead of Jacoby.Those numbers from last season are not encouraging but it was rusty Deshaun.Chubb had 12 rushing TDs last year, 0 after Desean Watson returned. He ran for over 100 yards 7 times, only once after Desean Watson returned.
In Desean's 3 full years starting in Houston, the top backs were:
2018 - Lamar Miller, 210 Carries for 973 Rushing yards, 5 Rushing TDs
2019 - Carlos Hyde, 245 Carries for 1070 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
2020 - David Johnson, 147 Carries for 691 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
I think Nick Chubb talent wise is a top 3-5 back but I think there are legitimate reasons to wonder if Chubb will be a top fantasy back with a full year of Desean at QB.
I’m hoping that Deshaun has knocked the rust off and is back to being a top tier QB and that opens the field up for Chubb.
I hear you, a better Deshaun hopefully makes the entire pie larger, but it appears the philosophy changed away from Chubb quite a bit.
The question was, explain why someone doesn't have Chubb in their top 10.They were also out of playoff contention for a while. Why get him killed?Chubb also averaged over 3 touches in the red zone in games before Deshaun and just over 1 in games with Deshaun. WR opportunities increased about .5 per game with Deshaun instead of Jacoby.Those numbers from last season are not encouraging but it was rusty Deshaun.Chubb had 12 rushing TDs last year, 0 after Desean Watson returned. He ran for over 100 yards 7 times, only once after Desean Watson returned.
In Desean's 3 full years starting in Houston, the top backs were:
2018 - Lamar Miller, 210 Carries for 973 Rushing yards, 5 Rushing TDs
2019 - Carlos Hyde, 245 Carries for 1070 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
2020 - David Johnson, 147 Carries for 691 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
I think Nick Chubb talent wise is a top 3-5 back but I think there are legitimate reasons to wonder if Chubb will be a top fantasy back with a full year of Desean at QB.
I’m hoping that Deshaun has knocked the rust off and is back to being a top tier QB and that opens the field up for Chubb.
I hear you, a better Deshaun hopefully makes the entire pie larger, but it appears the philosophy changed away from Chubb quite a bit.
I will absolutely disregard the history of the RBs. They were all trashThe question was, explain why someone doesn't have Chubb in their top 10.They were also out of playoff contention for a while. Why get him killed?Chubb also averaged over 3 touches in the red zone in games before Deshaun and just over 1 in games with Deshaun. WR opportunities increased about .5 per game with Deshaun instead of Jacoby.Those numbers from last season are not encouraging but it was rusty Deshaun.Chubb had 12 rushing TDs last year, 0 after Desean Watson returned. He ran for over 100 yards 7 times, only once after Desean Watson returned.
In Desean's 3 full years starting in Houston, the top backs were:
2018 - Lamar Miller, 210 Carries for 973 Rushing yards, 5 Rushing TDs
2019 - Carlos Hyde, 245 Carries for 1070 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
2020 - David Johnson, 147 Carries for 691 Rushing yards, 6 Rushing TDs
I think Nick Chubb talent wise is a top 3-5 back but I think there are legitimate reasons to wonder if Chubb will be a top fantasy back with a full year of Desean at QB.
I’m hoping that Deshaun has knocked the rust off and is back to being a top tier QB and that opens the field up for Chubb.
I hear you, a better Deshaun hopefully makes the entire pie larger, but it appears the philosophy changed away from Chubb quite a bit.
Look, I'll say again, Chubb is probably my favorite NFL player right now. I'm far from rooting for him to struggle. But there is no denying that his production went down, not up, when Deshaun showed up. Blame that on scheme, blame that on standings, blame that on Deshaun not playing up to par... ok I guess. But I think disregarding all of them, as well as the history of RBs who played with Deshaun is a mistake.
I can agree with you here. I am defending champ in my league, where I own Chubb and Barkley. If I were offered 1.7 for Chubb, as a contender I would scoff and turn it down. I would rather let Chubb die on my roster than give him away for the type of RB available at 1.7. I would hold, and if you are not in contention mid season, then try to trade Chubb to contender at that point for a 2024 first.I just got an offer for the 1.07 for Chubb. Mulling it over, but probably will decline. I have a team that can compete but is getting pretty old. Don’t have much depth at RB. I do have the 1.08 already. Just feel like it would take more to get him now based on my team needs. He feels more valuable than the 1.07 short term.
I have Chubb and Henry. We can start up to 5 RBs if the roster allows. All I have behind those 2 are Gus Edwards and Michael Carter.I can agree with you here. I am defending champ in my league, where I own Chubb and Barkley. If I were offered 1.7 for Chubb, as a contender I would scoff and turn it down. I would rather let Chubb die on my roster than give him away for the type of RB available at 1.7. I would hold, and if you are not in contention mid season, then try to trade Chubb to contender at that point for a 2024 first.I just got an offer for the 1.07 for Chubb. Mulling it over, but probably will decline. I have a team that can compete but is getting pretty old. Don’t have much depth at RB. I do have the 1.08 already. Just feel like it would take more to get him now based on my team needs. He feels more valuable than the 1.07 short term.
I also have Chubb and Henry in 1 where we can start up to 4.I have Chubb and Henry. We can start up to 5 RBs if the roster allows. All I have behind those 2 are Gus Edwards and Michael Carter.I can agree with you here. I am defending champ in my league, where I own Chubb and Barkley. If I were offered 1.7 for Chubb, as a contender I would scoff and turn it down. I would rather let Chubb die on my roster than give him away for the type of RB available at 1.7. I would hold, and if you are not in contention mid season, then try to trade Chubb to contender at that point for a 2024 first.I just got an offer for the 1.07 for Chubb. Mulling it over, but probably will decline. I have a team that can compete but is getting pretty old. Don’t have much depth at RB. I do have the 1.08 already. Just feel like it would take more to get him now based on my team needs. He feels more valuable than the 1.07 short term.
It's only like a stock portfolio if you're not competing for the ship. If you want to win, you often have to make short/long term value sacrifices in order to get actual points. I'm perfectly fine holding a player who's perceived value is dropping if he's helping me win games.I actually HATE the idea of anyone "dying on my roster." Dynasty is like a stock portfolio. You want to always be increasing it's value. If you know a stock is going to lose value, get out while the getting is good.
Whether it is on the field or in fantasy football, Cleveland’s running back makes the most of his carries. Rarely does Chubb get stopped behind the line of scrimmage and he is almost always going forward when he does get tackled...Chubb is the only NFL running back to rank inside the top three at his position (minimum of 200 carries) in both missed tackles forced per attempt (0.21) and yards after contact per attempt (3.81) since 2021. He has been a top-10 running back in fantasy points per game in each of the past four seasons, having posted more than 4,000 yards after contact in that span. The 27-year-old Georgia product has shown no signs of slowing down, even earning the highest rushing grade of his career (90.7) in 2022.
Similar situation here. Have Chubb and Henry and frankly wouldn't move either unless for a top 3 and that isn't happening. The dynasty team I have these guys on has won the last 4 championships and 5 of the past 10 years, due in large part to these RBs. I have been able to acquire depth at RB with some younger guys like Etienne and Stevenson, but we can play 3 RBs, so it is a huge luxury to have 3-4 top RBs and be able to play match-ups if need be.I just got an offer for the 1.07 for Chubb. Mulling it over, but probably will decline. I have a team that can compete but is getting pretty old. Don’t have much depth at RB. I do have the 1.08 already. Just feel like it would take more to get him now based on my team needs. He feels more valuable than the 1.07 short term.
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Browns RB coach Stump Mitchell on Nick Chubb: “He’ll have the opportunity to catch more passes, so I think people will see that he’s more than just a running back ... I think he’ll be successful. It’s an opportunity to perhaps gain a thousand yards receiving as well."
Watson had not played a game in 22 months when he came back last year. His first 4 games he played poorly. The offense only scored 3 total TDs. Chubb averaged 9.5 points PPR. The last 2 games Watson played better. The offense scored 5 TDs and Chubb averaged 18 PPR. I have Chubb at 16 for 88 rushing, 2.5 for 22 receiving and 13 total TDs. That puts him right at 18 points per game PPR.I've got Nick Chubb ranked a lot higher than ADP this year. I've followed this guy since he was a freshman in HS and been to several games. I know how good he is and I've never drafted him in fantasy, but this is the year I will have a lot of Chubb. With the investment the Browns had in Hunt I never felt like the ceiling was real for Chubb and I am more of a ceiling guy,.
I think the offense overall is going to be very good and Watson will be 90% of his old self. Couple that with no Kareem Hunt and an uptick in receiving which I've heard multiple times is a very real focus this off season, and we have the safest 1st rd pick out there and the ceiling possibility of 50+ catches? Rush: 1500 12TD Receiving: 50 catches 500yd 3TD almost seems probable if Watson comes in really good this year.
Not everyone will share my opinion here, but this is my flag plant this year.
Browns coach Kevin Stefanski praised Nick Chubb’s three-down ability.
“Nick’s a huge part of our offense, obviously hand it to him, throwing it to him,” Stefanski said. “He’s been adept at both … We have very good empirical data on what he’s good at and it’s tried and true. So that part of what we are will always be with Nick in mind. But Nick himself, I don’t know if there’s limits to him as a player. I think he’s, he’s schematic fit really in anything.” With Kareem Hunt gone and unknown second-year pro Jerome Ford No. 2 on the depth chart, the fantasy community has been wondering if this might finally be the year Chubb catches more passes. His career high for receptions is 36 back in 2019. He has not caught more than 27 since. Even rebounding to the 35-40 range would have a major impact on Chubb’s mid-range RB1 floor and ceiling.
sounds like you got your chubby onAll in on chubb this year!
I think Watson is going to stink and be the same guy we saw last year. I love Chubb, but can't get past this fearAll in on chubb this year!
But if Watson DOES stink, doesn't that mean they would lean on Chubb even more ?I think Watson is going to stink and be the same guy we saw last year. I love Chubb, but can't get past this fearAll in on chubb this year!
I share this fear as well. However, this affects Chubb only minimally. With their O-Line and projecting him not getting hurt - this guy is a lock for 1400 rushing double digit TD's. There is no way he doesn't set a career high in catches as he's not been in this position. He had 39 in 2019, so lets give him 50 as the 3rd down back this year. I believe 1800+ APY and 13 TD's which is where I have him projected would've been RB3 last year, and I think there is more potential ceiling here. After Cmac and Ek I think he's the safest bet of the top tier RB's. Things could fall right and Watson is awesome and those TD numbers/receiving usage++ could put him in RB1 territory. But even the conservative scenario still locks him in the top 5? I am drafting a lot of Chubb. Btw, not a lot of Watson.I think Watson is going to stink and be the same guy we saw last year. I love Chubb, but can't get past this fearAll in on chubb this year!
I've seen Chubb fall a couple times in Rd 2 to your spot. If you're gut says you got to have him. take him and grab Wilson or St Brown. Both I feel could easily match the WR's available. Personally though, if Bijan were there - that upside is too juicy. Chubb is a more sure thing though.Debating N. Chubb at #7 in a PPR 12 team redraft.
With the C. Kupp injury and LAR overall team situation, good chance I'm looking at Kupp vs. B. Robinson vs. N. Chubb.
Chubb feels like a rock solid choice but with upside this year. Potential for catching some passes and is there really a #2? J. Ford??
Not feeling the likes of Diggs or Adams either here...one of AJ Brown, A ST Brown, G. WIlson, Waddle always there in round 2. And there's no way Chubb or Pollard get back to me in round 2...and want no part of D. Henry.
Too soon at 7?
I took Chubb at #8 over Saquon, Bijan, Henry, Mahomes, Cupp, Diggs...etc. Do it!Debating N. Chubb at #7 in a PPR 12 team redraft.
With the C. Kupp injury and LAR overall team situation, good chance I'm looking at Kupp vs. B. Robinson vs. N. Chubb.
Chubb feels like a rock solid choice but with upside this year. Potential for catching some passes and is there really a #2? J. Ford??
Not feeling the likes of Diggs or Adams either here...one of AJ Brown, A ST Brown, G. WIlson, Waddle always there in round 2. And there's no way Chubb or Pollard get back to me in round 2...and want no part of D. Henry.
Too soon at 7?