RB Rhamondre Stevenson, NE (2 Viewers)

[Lansdowne]

Comparing last year’s offense to this year’s:

Brissett/Maye > Mac/Zappe
Gibson = Elliott
Polk/Osborn > JJSS/Parker

The OL is just as bad as last year if not worse

Remains to be seen how Van Pelt does as OC compared to O’Brien

Nevertheless this Pats regime is committed strategically and financially to Rham and I think he’ll put up numbers closer to his 2022 than his 2023 and that’s being conservative. He should get insane volume and that alone should keep him in the RB2 discussion with a chance for more if the offense actually gels over the course of the season.

 

[Football Jones]

Comparing last year’s offense to this year’s:

Brissett/Maye > Mac/Zappe
Gibson = Elliott
Polk/Osborn > JJSS/Parker

The OL is just as bad as last year if not worse

Remains to be seen how Van Pelt does as OC compared to O’Brien

Nevertheless this Pats regime is committed strategically and financially to Rham and I think he’ll put up numbers closer to his 2022 than his 2023 and that’s being conservative. He should get insane volume and that alone should keep him in the RB2 discussion with a chance for more if the offense actually gels over the course of the season.

Yeah, Stevenson has a pretty nice floor, even with the uncertainty of the offense.

The QB play last season was atrocious. It might not be stellar this season, but it should be quite a bit better.

OL play will be a key ingredient to the outcome. I wonder how they graded out in week 1.

 

[Anarchy99]

Comparing last year’s offense to this year’s:

Brissett/Maye > Mac/Zappe
Gibson = Elliott
Polk/Osborn > JJSS/Parker

The OL is just as bad as last year if not worse

Remains to be seen how Van Pelt does as OC compared to O’Brien

Nevertheless this Pats regime is committed strategically and financially to Rham and I think he’ll put up numbers closer to his 2022 than his 2023 and that’s being conservative. He should get insane volume and that alone should keep him in the RB2 discussion with a chance for more if the offense actually gels over the course of the season.

Yeah, Stevenson has a pretty nice floor, even with the uncertainty of the offense.

The QB play last season was atrocious. It might not be stellar this season, but it should be quite a bit better.

OL play will be a key ingredient to the outcome. I wonder how they graded out in week 1.

I posted about the OL grades from PFF in the New England team thread. Not one player got a decent score.

 

[kface]

I think people need to take a close look at all his touches this week. He aces the eyeball test. Dude is more than legit. Big and quick with good receiving ability. The jump cuts are really impressive for somebody his size.

I believe Stevenson is a top-5 RB as far as talent, easily top-10. He'd be a league-winner in Dallas. Yes, the offense is plenty questionable, but he'll score FF points on ability, alone. Kinda funny people are touting KWIII's performance in a not great offense, but aren't giving Dre ANY love. That said, I understand the downside if the Pats suck.

If Maye can keep defenses honest and their D is as good as it looks right now, this cat is gonna be a huge surprise. FFers should take him more seriously, IMO.

I mean he didn't do anything last year...and this offense is probably just as bad

It was a colossal mistake, but he shared with Zeke last year. WAY underutilized. He's the type of RB who can really get rolling with a lot of touches. Gibson is a JAG and the first week was pretty telling how they feel about their RB room. Yes, I realize they could be playing from behind in a lot of games, but that's ok. Dre is a good receiver and certainly better than Gibby (despite what many think).

Two more things, as well...their D looks better and they actually might have a decent QB (when the change takes place this season).

The main thing is the talent. Also, last year in NFL terms is like a decade in real life. Personnel dynamics move fast. Stevenson is massively undervalued in dynasty. We'll see about this season, but if things fall right, he'll be a steal. Will he have bad games? Sure. They all do, but even if things go sour, he'll likely be worth his ADP on volume, alone.

If things fall right most people drafted in the top 100 will have a great fantasy season...things don't fall right for most though. And there are a lot of red flags from NE

It was week 1 and I'm an owner and he won me the week so I'm super happy. Just not counting on this in week 6.

 

[Timmay]

I love the workload and RZ touches, however I am skeptical he can do this against a competent run defense. Bengals run defense is atrocious and the Bengals defense as a whole had the most missed tackles of week 1. Some of that was Stevenson being shifty, some of those were poor tackling.

 

[TampaMike19]

Easy sell high if you can 2 for 1 and upgrade to a Taylor type Easier said than done lol

 

[Football Jones]

I think people need to take a close look at all his touches this week. He aces the eyeball test. Dude is more than legit. Big and quick with good receiving ability. The jump cuts are really impressive for somebody his size.

I believe Stevenson is a top-5 RB as far as talent, easily top-10. He'd be a league-winner in Dallas. Yes, the offense is plenty questionable, but he'll score FF points on ability, alone. Kinda funny people are touting KWIII's performance in a not great offense, but aren't giving Dre ANY love. That said, I understand the downside if the Pats suck.

If Maye can keep defenses honest and their D is as good as it looks right now, this cat is gonna be a huge surprise. FFers should take him more seriously, IMO.

I mean he didn't do anything last year...and this offense is probably just as bad

It was a colossal mistake, but he shared with Zeke last year. WAY underutilized. He's the type of RB who can really get rolling with a lot of touches. Gibson is a JAG and the first week was pretty telling how they feel about their RB room. Yes, I realize they could be playing from behind in a lot of games, but that's ok. Dre is a good receiver and certainly better than Gibby (despite what many think).

Two more things, as well...their D looks better and they actually might have a decent QB (when the change takes place this season).

The main thing is the talent. Also, last year in NFL terms is like a decade in real life. Personnel dynamics move fast. Stevenson is massively undervalued in dynasty. We'll see about this season, but if things fall right, he'll be a steal. Will he have bad games? Sure. They all do, but even if things go sour, he'll likely be worth his ADP on volume, alone.

If things fall right most people drafted in the top 100 will have a great fantasy season...things don't fall right for most though. And there are a lot of red flags from NE

It was week 1 and I'm an owner and he won me the week so I'm super happy. Just not counting on this in week 6.

True, but many players aren't a steal even if things fall right. Lots of ceiling with that ADP, which is what's so attractive. The gap in the expected production from a specific draft slot and the actual production is a real difference-maker in FF (when it's higher)...or a disadvantage when it's lower.

That said, I totally get the red flags, but we aren't talking about a premier FF pick. To me, the optics are much better this season, but Stevenson having a good season is a long way from a lock. There certainly is the potential for **** to hit the fan.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That said, I totally get the red flags, but we aren't talking about a premier FF pick. To me, the optics are much better this season, but Stevenson having a good season is a long way from a lock. There certainly is the potential for **** to hit the fan.

Counterpoint: Stevenson is a very solid Rb, was paid as a feature back, was used as a feature back, and he was one of the best values at the position in 2024 FF drafts as the centerpiece of that offense. I only wish I had more shares.

 

[Football Jones]

That said, I totally get the red flags, but we aren't talking about a premier FF pick. To me, the optics are much better this season, but Stevenson having a good season is a long way from a lock. There certainly is the potential for **** to hit the fan.

Counterpoint: Stevenson is a very solid Rb, was paid as a feature back, was used as a feature back, and he was one of the best values at the position in 2024 FF drafts as the centerpiece of that offense. I only wish I had more shares.

Yeah, the contract is another reason not to overlook him. Stevenson isn't getting enough love, but he's one of those guys who'll have to prove it before people jump on.

His situation is the only thing keeping him from being a stud. Their offense has a lot of room for improvement which means Stevenson has a lot of headroom. It'll be interesting to see what he does this season.

 

[kface]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

It's week 1

Settle down

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

It's week 1

Settle down

Lack of laugh emoji makes me sad.

You have to at least admit it’s not your best work. I’m just sayin.

 

[kface]

That said, I totally get the red flags, but we aren't talking about a premier FF pick. To me, the optics are much better this season, but Stevenson having a good season is a long way from a lock. There certainly is the potential for **** to hit the fan.

Counterpoint: Stevenson is a very solid Rb, was paid as a feature back, was used as a feature back, and he was one of the best values at the position in 2024 FF drafts as the centerpiece of that offense. I only wish I had more shares.

Yeah, the contract is another reason not to overlook him. Stevenson isn't getting enough love, but he's one of those guys who'll have to prove it before people jump on.

His situation is the only thing keeping him from being a stud. Their offense has a lot of room for improvement which means Stevenson has a lot of headroom. It'll be interesting to see what he does this season.

The concern isn't so much with him just with the o in general

Maybe NE surprises but we all know week 1 is often screwy

 

[kface]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

It's week 1

Settle down

Lack of laugh emoji makes me sad.

You have to at least admit it’s not your best work. I’m just sayin.

I'll stick with it's just week 1

Let's revist in week 4

I'm an owner and an early drafter of him in dynasty and redraft so I hope I eat my words

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm an owner and an early drafter of him in dynasty and redraft so I hope I eat my words

I took him in a 16-team startup last year, and traded for him in my other 16-team league - I am a believer in the talent.

His team is terrible, but I used to win leagues with MJD on some god awful Jags teams, so…

 

[shadrap]

Counterpoint: Stevenson is a very solid Rb, was paid as a feature back, was used as a feature back, and he was one of the best values at the position in 2024 FF drafts as the centerpiece of that offense. I only wish I had more shares.

I totally agree except for the last sentence. He will suffer because of the offense. Same as last year. Good/really good RB in a bad situation.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Counterpoint: Stevenson is a very solid Rb, was paid as a feature back, was used as a feature back, and he was one of the best values at the position in 2024 FF drafts as the centerpiece of that offense. I only wish I had more shares.

I totally agree except for the last sentence. He will suffer because of the offense. Same as last year. Good/really good RB in a bad situation.

You disagree that I would rather have more shares?


ETA - oh, *except* for the last sentence.

man, I need to start drinking coffee again.
lol

 

[Gally]

I mean he didn't do anything last year...and this offense is probably just as bad

He also missed a half dozen games last year so that will put in a dent your ability to put up numbers too.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I mean he didn't do anything last year...and this offense is probably just as bad

He also missed a half dozen games last year so that will put in a dent your ability to put up numbers too.

Exactly. The year before he was pretty stellar.

 

[Anarchy99]

We have reached the point with NE players that people can really only provide opinions and guesses on what might happen, as there has been no consistency or track record for any of these guys. Stevenson has played with a different offensive coordinator every year, he's on his third starting quarterback, and his running mate has changed from Damien Harris to Ezekiel Elliott to Antonio Gibson.

The one constant has been mediocre offensive line play, which I can assure people hasn't gotten any better. Other than 3 isolated games in his rookie season where NE exploded for a combined 150 points, the offense hasn't done much. They don't have many play makers, and defenses don't really have much to worry about in terms of guys to be concerned about on the Pats offense. RS has missed 10 games in 3 years (and has tended to get worn down as the season progresses), so it's fair to question what workload he could take on and for how many games.

My guess is that Gibson will see more work with a different game script (ie, NE losing, the run game not as effective, and teams forcing the Pats to play catch up and pass). I think the 2022 season where Rhamondre saw 88 targets was an anomaly, and he won't see that many this year. Twenty five carries tied a career high, and my guess is that he won't hold up over the season with that big a workload. That may not be a big concern if they are down 28-10 and abandon the run. Realistically, I think thinks will level off, and a 4.0 ypc will end up being seen as doing the lord's work behind that offensive line. If the Bengals could tackle, he might not have had 50 yards rushing this past week.

Overall, I think Stevenson will be a hit or miss play for fantasy . . . a couple decent weeks followed by some high usage weeks with hardly any fantasy scoring. That probably works out to a middle of the road fantasy RB2 (or slightly worse). The 2022 season was one where it was predicable that you could draft him as the RB36 and expect to see great dividends (finished RB8). This year, his ADP was RB22. If he stays healthy, that's probably close to where I see him finishing (I think maybe around RB20). Not the same amount of value, but he shouldn't be a big bust based on the workload he should see.

 

[kface]

We have reached the point with NE players that people can really only provide opinions and guesses on what might happen, as there has been no consistency or track record for any of these guys. Stevenson has played with a different offensive coordinator every year, he's on his third starting quarterback, and his running mate has changed from Damien Harris to Ezekiel Elliott to Antonio Gibson.

The one constant has been mediocre offensive line play, which I can assure people hasn't gotten any better. Other than 3 isolated games in his rookie season where NE exploded for a combined 150 points, the offense hasn't done much. They don't have many play makers, and defenses don't really have much to worry about in terms of guys to be concerned about on the Pats offense. RS has missed 10 games in 3 years (and has tended to worn down as the season progresses), so it's fair to question what workload he could take on and for how many games.

My guess is that Gibson will see more work with a different game script (ie, NE losing, the run game not as effective, and teams forcing the Pats to play catch up and pass). I think the 2022 season where Rhamondre saw 88 targets was an anomaly, and he won't see that many this year. Twenty five carries tied a career high, and my guess is that he won't hold up over the season with that big a workload. That may not be a big concern if they are down 28-10 and abandon the run. Realistically, I think thinks will level off, and a 4.0 ypc will end up being sen as doing the lord's work behind that offensive line. If the Bengals could tackle, he might not have had 50 yards rushing this past week.

Overall, I think Stevenson will be a hit or miss play for fantasy . . . a couple decent weeks followed by some high usage weeks with hardly any fantasy scoring. That probably works out to a middle of the road fantasy RB2 (or slightly worse). The 2022 season was one where it was predicable that you could draft him as the RB36 and expect to see great dividends (finished RB8). This year, his ADP was RB22. If he stays healthy, that's probably close to where I see him finishing (I think maybe around RB20). Not the same amount of value, but he shouldn't be a big bust based on the workload he should see.

You said much more eloquently what i was trying to say - thanks

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

Stevenson is 26 years old and in his absolute prime age wise. He’s the clear #1 RB in the backfield. He just posted 25/120 with a TD and three receptions. He’s signed for five more years through 2028 and making $9m a year. He’s one year removed from finishing the season ranked #13 at his position making it reasonable to believe he could be in the Top 15 this year. And most teams that drafted him probably got him him in the 6-7th round or at auction in the mid teens as few other owners were targeting him.

But hey let’s ignore all of that and just complain that he sucks or he’ll get hurt. Very insightful! Way to go FBG posters!

Just ridiculous.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sell. The schedule is brutal.

 

[Timmay]

I don't get all the hate on Stevenson. I think Jerod Mayo has this team believing and playing with fire. I think the Pats will surprise this year, not saying playoffs, but I do think they win over 4.5 games as Vegas predicted. As long as Brissett takes care of the ball, I think Stevenson will have his chances to be a solid RB2/great RB3 option that most drafters took him as. I'd take a RB2/RB3 getting 20-25 touches a game over someone splitting carries, depending on the game script.

 

[Anarchy99]

Since Week 1 of last year, here are the Top 5 scoring offenses in the league (by total offensive TD): SFO (62), DET (60), MIA (59), BAL (55), BUF (55).
And the Bottom 5: CAR (17), NYJ (18), NYG (25), NEP (25), PIT (29), TEN (29).

The Top 5 offenses by yardage: MIA (7222), SFO (7174), DET (7075), BAL (6748), BUF (6718)
And the Bottom 5: CAR (4703), NYJ (4832), NEP (4986), NYG (5000), TEN (5157)

It's not impossible to score well as a RB on a terrible offensive team . . . look at Hall last year (he lead the league in RB receptions).

As for Stevenson, he had a career high in carries this week. That was the 6th time in 43 games he's had 20 carries and the 5th time he's had 100+ rushing yards. In CLE with Van Pelt as OC, the leader in receptions at RB each year was 38, 22, 35, and 44.

I mentioned earlier, it's hard to come to any conclusions for NE players this year because there have been so many moving parts and coaching and personnel changes. People can project Stevenson however they want, and it's hard to argue for or against any position.

 

[Faust]

Patriots RB Rhamondre Stevenson pushing harder in 2024

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Stevenson is low key the rare feature back everyone wants to target, but actually fades because his team is perceived as crappy.

Dude is a beast. Consistent, capable of a big workload, and has the talent to be the centerpiece.

Good health is all he needs, which you can say about any RB or player.

 

[titusbramble]

Now on the Rhamondre train in dynasty, not expecting the average of the first two weeks to be maintained, sure, but will take a decent floor to try to stay competitive after I lost Pacheco

 

[Faust]

Alex Barth
Rhamondre Stevenson through two games this season...

Rushing yards, total: 201

Rushing yards, after contact: 205

Stevenson has been contacted behind the line of scrimmage on a league-high 60.9% of his carries this season, per NFL Next Gen Stats

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[Lansdowne]

Alex Barth
Rhamondre Stevenson through two games this season...

Rushing yards, total: 201

Rushing yards, after contact: 205

Stevenson has been contacted behind the line of scrimmage on a league-high 60.9% of his carries this season, per NFL Next Gen Stats

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An absolute beast. Can only imagine how great his numbers would look behind a league average OL or better.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Alex Barth
Rhamondre Stevenson through two games this season...

Rushing yards, total: 201

Rushing yards, after contact: 205

Stevenson has been contacted behind the line of scrimmage on a league-high 60.9% of his carries this season, per NFL Next Gen Stats

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So underrated.

 

[Anarchy99]

Alex Barth
Rhamondre Stevenson through two games this season...

Rushing yards, total: 201

Rushing yards, after contact: 205

Stevenson has been contacted behind the line of scrimmage on a league-high 60.9% of his carries this season, per NFL Next Gen Stats

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An absolute beast. Can only imagine how great his numbers would look behind a league average OL or better.

He's looked great so far. However, I am concerned that he may not hold up. His rookie season, he had 24 touches one game and got hurt the following week. In 2022, he took on a big work midseason, injured his ankle, and was not as effective the last month of the season (4 games with single carries). Last year, he had back-to-back weeks with nearly 25 touches, got hurt the following week, and missed the last 5 weeks of the season.

Maybe it's just a case of football being a violent sport and hard on running backs. Maybe his injuries were just a coincidence. Maybe he can continue to average 25 touches a week and will end up with 425 touches. Maybe he will continue to break tackles in the backfield week in and week out. Fingers crossed it plays out the rest of the season the same way the first two weeks have gone.

 

[Timmay]

Everyone seems to be all about Stevenson this week.

Some of the most bet tickets at MGM for tonight's game:

-Stevenson to score a TD +120
-Stevenson over 15.5 rush attempts
-Stevenson over 2.5 receptions

Usually this is not a good sign and most of these bets do not hit. I guess I would take 15 rushes for 200 yards and 2 receptions for 196 yards.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

guess I would take 15 rushes for 200 yards and 2 receptions for 196 yards.

Who wouldn’t?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Alex Barth
Rhamondre Stevenson through two games this season...

Rushing yards, total: 201

Rushing yards, after contact: 205

Stevenson has been contacted behind the line of scrimmage on a league-high 60.9% of his carries this season, per NFL Next Gen Stats

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An absolute beast. Can only imagine how great his numbers would look behind a league average OL or better.

He's looked great so far. However, I am concerned that he may not hold up. His rookie season, he had 24 touches one game and got hurt the following week. In 2022, he took on a big work midseason, injured his ankle, and was not as effective the last month of the season (4 games with single carries). Last year, he had back-to-back weeks with nearly 25 touches, got hurt the following week, and missed the last 5 weeks of the season.

Maybe it's just a case of football being a violent sport and hard on running backs. Maybe his injuries were just a coincidence. Maybe he can continue to average 25 touches a week and will end up with 425 touches. Maybe he will continue to break tackles in the backfield week in and week out. Fingers crossed it plays out the rest of the season the same way the first two weeks have gone.

You seem to be the biggest RS naysayer on the forum. Aren’t you a pats fan?

Why do you hate RS so much?

 

[Anarchy99]

You seem to be the biggest RS naysayer on the forum. Aren’t you a pats fan?

Why do you hate RS so much?

I am only providing perspective on how I think he will do based on what he's done over his career. IMO, his workload is unsustainable (he's on pace for 425 touches), as is the complete underutilization of NE receivers (all their WR COMBINED are on track for a TOTAL of 722 receiving yards). Yes, he has done well so far, but IMO that has been done with smoke and mirrors. The OL has been terrible (as evidenced by his 61% rate of first contact behind the LOS).

Here's how PFF has scored the NE OL so far: Andrews 66.0, Robinson 57.9. Onwenu 55.7, Jordan 54.8, and Lowe 53.5. There is no way to sugar coat that, they have been atrocious. Stevenson has missed 10 games in 3 seasons. The season he played every game, his performance dipped as the season wore on. He had almost 70 receptions that year, and Matt Patricia's game plan fed him a ton of targets. Van Pelt historically has not used his backs that way.

I suspect that part of why things have worked so far is the Patriots offense was a mystery heading into the season, and there was no game tape to review to determine what they were doing on offense. I would guess after another week or two, defensive coordinators will have a much better idea what plays they are running and in what situations. I watched both their games, and it appeared to me that defenders were over pursuing, took the wrong angle on tackles, and did a poor job containing or tackling.

Is Rhamondre a tough hombre? Absolutely. Does he have a wrinkle that helps him get by defenders sometimes? Yes, indeed. But guys getting hit almost as soon as they touch the ball in the backfield are not going to continually break free for 8-yard runs, and his ypc and total rushing yardage could easily start plummeting. Defenses are going to adjust and use better alignments. They will force the Pats to prove they can throw the football . . . something they have shown they are not eager to do.

I'd love it if what they are doing keeps working, and that the Pats are in every game. I don't see the offense suddenly going full throttle and scoring a lot of points, but I can see the NE secondary giving up a ton of yardage and more points than usual. The Pats still have a talent gap compared to other teams. Trying hard consistently only can get you so far. Maybe RS will end up with 1850/17 (the pace he is on right now), but I would be surprised if that's how it turned out.

ETA: New England is also not going to play every game without ever turning the ball over (0 turnovers so far). They also have only had 3 penalties on offense so far, which is insanely low. Both of those are going to start evening out, and that will play against the game script and offensive style that the Pats have been running.

 

[Football Jones]

I almost always discuss things from a dynasty perspective and that’s where Stevenson shines. They might have a decent QB in Maye so there’s a silver lining with Dre’s value.

Redraft is another matter. There’s going to be a wide range of outcomes each week due to the combination of his ability mixed with their underpowered offense, but obviously the talent is there. I’ve long said he’d be a league-winner on a team like Dallas.

 

[Lansdowne]

Well THAT was a disaster.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We jinxed him. Good job, fellas.

 

[BassNBrew]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

They gave him 6 carries.


Cmon.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

Cmon.

Yeah, I benched him presuming the game script would go a lot like it did

 

[BassNBrew]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

Cmon.

Doesn't need to be on him. The result isn't even a middling injury backup ff output.

 

[travdogg]

He was a screaming sell high coming off 2 huge workloads against bad defenses, and a terrible schedule on the horizon. Didn't think it'd go this poorly though.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

Cmon.

It’s so tiring to see so many people reflexively negative after one game. ONE game. He’s had two good games and one bad one in 2024. Relax everyone. Sheesh. @Hot Sauce Guy has the right take here. Let’s see how the next few games go before remotely considering it’s time to panic. There’s a ton of season left to see how things shake out.

 

[kface]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

Cmon.

It’s so tiring to see so many people reflexively negative after one game. ONE game. He’s had two good games and one bad one in 2024. Relax everyone. Sheesh. @Hot Sauce Guy has the right take here. Let’s see how the next few games go before remotely considering it’s time to panic. There’s a ton of season left to see how things shake out.

There is, and the 'gotcha' stuff is kind of maddening, but this is what everyone thought NE would be this year. They are going to be lucky to put 10 points up most week and that is badly going to impact RS.

There are going to be a ton of games like this no matter what you think of RS

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

Cmon.

It’s so tiring to see so many people reflexively negative after one game. ONE game. He’s had two good games and one bad one in 2024. Relax everyone. Sheesh. @Hot Sauce Guy has the right take here. Let’s see how the next few games go before remotely considering it’s time to panic. There’s a ton of season left to see how things shake out.

There is, and the 'gotcha' stuff is kind of maddening, but this is what everyone thought NE would be this year. They are going to be lucky to put 10 points up most week and that is badly going to impact RS.

There are going to be a ton of games like this no matter what you think of RS

Stevenson was #19 at RB on my draft board. Through two weeks he’s was the #9 RB in my redraft league. He’ll probably be #22-26 when week three is over. There’s really nothing that surprising going on despite the small sample size at the moment.

 

[shadrap]

Counterpoint: Stevenson is a very solid Rb, was paid as a feature back, was used as a feature back, and he was one of the best values at the position in 2024 FF drafts as the centerpiece of that offense. I only wish I had more shares.

I totally agree except for the last sentence. He will suffer because of the offense. Same as last year. Good/really good RB in a bad situation.

 

[ratbast]

The gameplan will be stop RS and Henry. Stack the box. Make the pats pass deep.
Sell!!!! Honeymoon is over.

 

[kface]

I concur with a lot of the thoughts here. This guy is a middling injury backup type RB and won't be very fantasy-relevant. NE will be luck to average 13 points a week

This aged poorly.

This aged even more poorly

You can’t seriously put this on RS.


Pats OL was a screen door & Jets D was absurd tonight. They gave him 7 carries. 7.

Cmon.

It’s so tiring to see so many people reflexively negative after one game. ONE game. He’s had two good games and one bad one in 2024. Relax everyone. Sheesh. @Hot Sauce Guy has the right take here. Let’s see how the next few games go before remotely considering it’s time to panic. There’s a ton of season left to see how things shake out.

There is, and the 'gotcha' stuff is kind of maddening, but this is what everyone thought NE would be this year. They are going to be lucky to put 10 points up most week and that is badly going to impact RS.

There are going to be a ton of games like this no matter what you think of RS

Stevenson was #19 at RB on my draft board. Through two weeks he’s was the #9 RB in my redraft league. He’ll probably be #22-26 when we three is over. There’s really nothing that surprising going on despite the small sample size at the moment.

I suspect he will end up in the 25-30 range and on many losing fantasy teams. He is essentially Javonte Williams. He is probably a pretty good talent in an offense that is going to put 3 points on the board in a lot of games.