Ilov80s
Footballguy
No, I think there are maybe 2-4 different backs who have a case for RB3.
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RB Zach Charbonnet, SEA (1 Viewer)
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This is a good example of what I was trying to say about the current RB11 kind of player potentially being like RB3 or 4.
I'm using redraft FFPC as my best guide for how consensus is currently viewing rookie RB's. Evans is going off as RB8 right now. I don't think it would surprise many people if he ended up as RB3 or RB11. I believe this to be true before we know testing and draft capital.
ETA-just saw Evans measurements and he seems to be like Charbonnet, came in a lot lighter then I thought, at just over 202. When these players come in lighter like this they sure need to test well.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Zach Evans has fallen down most people’s rankings in the last few months.
Bijan Robinson
Jamyr Gibbs
Charbonnet/Achane have been the two most often spoken about at 3
Then it’s a clutch of players with Spears and Johnson being risers after the Senior Bowl and in the discussion with Tucker/Miller/Evans/Bigsby/McIntosh and a few others.
There’s still the likes of McBride/Abinakanda/Vaughn et all
So much depth
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No, and I agree that Evans is #3
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don’t play redraft, but I didn’t think redraft puts a lot of emphasis on 99% of the rookies. One of the reasons I don’t like redraft. I like the development aspect of fantasy.
I view it was it all being relative with respect to ranking one rookie RB vs other rookie RB's.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Jay Ajai: 6/0"/221/4.57/39"
Trey Sermon: 6'0"/215/4.61/37"
Chris Carson: 6'0"/218/4.58/37"
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Ryan Burns
@FtblSickness
Easiest prediction of all time: This is a very good football player, and some team is going to get a lot of production out of a value slot.
NFL Network
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“I can catch in any element.” @UCLAFootball RB Zach Charbonnet wants to prove why he should be one of the top RBs in this draft class.
@OmarDRuiz | @zachcharbon
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@FtblSickness
Easiest prediction of all time: This is a very good football player, and some team is going to get a lot of production out of a value slot.
NFL Network
@nflnetwork
“I can catch in any element.” @UCLAFootball RB Zach Charbonnet wants to prove why he should be one of the top RBs in this draft class.
@OmarDRuiz | @zachcharbon------------------
LINK to video
foxco
Footballguy
Like the mashup comparison of MJD and Michael Turner, that's very intriguing to me.
Faust
MVP
NFL Network @NFLNetwork
“I can catch in any element.”
@UCLAFootball RB Zach Charbonnet wants to prove why he should be one of the top RBs in this draft class.
@OmarDRuiz | @zachcharbon
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Zach Charbonnet
Freshman Year at Michigan this kid racks up over 725 yds rushing and 11 TDs under Jim Harbaugh
Sophomore Year either injuries or falling out of Harbaugh's favor...but he did manage to hold a 6.5 yd avg and only touched the ball about 20 times.
Transfer Portal...
Junior and Senior Year leading the Bruins in the Pac-12
1,300+ yds and 13 TD
1,680 yds and 14 TD
61 catches over his Junior and Senior year, he can do a lot of things in the offense.
6-1, 220 this kid is not a lightweight
After BRob is drafted, this is my No 2
Achane from Texas A&M reminds of Warrick Dunn, has a lot of speed and talent, think he will explode if he lands on the right team.
Achane is my No 3 at this point, perhaps even No 2 depending on who gets him.
Birdie048
Footballguy
LAC landing spot with Ekler on his last year and the contract issue.
I like Charbonnet in 1QB PPR at mid-late 1st pending draft capital.
I have him as RB3 in draft class.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Ide
Ideally, I would like to take a RB at 1.7 in a 1QB. A month ago, I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of him being the chalk selection for that spot. Now, I don't think I have any prayer that he gets there. He seems to have claimed the consensus RB3 in a tier to himself from a lot of the top experts. I guess it serves me right.
Not taking any of the QBs ahead of him in 1QB. You can make a case for Stroud or A-Rich if you have to have one, but I don't.
WRs crashing. The only one I still take ahead of him is JSN. That doesn't mean the others aren't in play depending on roster and league format.
So yeah, #4 pick on my big board right now with no delusions that he'll make it to #7.
Ideally, I would like to take a RB at 1.7 in a 1QB. A month ago, I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of him being the chalk selection for that spot. Now, I don't think I have any prayer that he gets there. He seems to have claimed the consensus RB3 in a tier to himself from a lot of the top experts. I guess it serves me right.
Not taking any of the QBs ahead of him in 1QB. You can make a case for Stroud or A-Rich if you have to have one, but I don't.
WRs crashing. The only one I still take ahead of him is JSN. That doesn't mean the others aren't in play depending on roster and league format.
So yeah, #4 pick on my big board right now with no delusions that he'll make it to #7.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No hope for Spiller?
Birdie048
Footballguy
As much as I liked Spiller coming out of Texas A&M, I don't see him climbing the Top RB ladder.
Spiller was 4th round (#123) behind ZWhite LVR , DPierce Hou and Brian Robinson Wash (just a few picks in front of Pierre Strong NEP)
I liked his college production, but limited showing - NFL 18 touches for 41 yards (2.3 ypc) is not inspiring.
NFL Draft Capital is a key facet in his lack of value. But the depressed RB value by NFL does give me pause here... (and Ekeler is 27 yo = Undrafted asset)
The incumbent staff saw his performance and IF BIJAN is there at 21, they will take as an explosive part of their offense.
I can see them using Ekeler as a Passing Catching asset and not between the tackles runner (Bijan's strength).
I don't see LAC passing the value of Bijan at 21. They need more RZ threats for Short Yardage GL options. (Truth be told.. I am unaware of Ekeler's GL performance)
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Just going off memory he was probably one of the best at the goal line in 2022.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I looked it up. Ekeler was #3 in % (10 car 6 TD) but #16 in attempts inside 5 YL
eta: LAC WR had > 50 targets inside 20 YL & 15 for WR+ TE inside 5
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Whelp, so much for his value
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That’s Pete. He loves RBs.
I'm not surprised, they were to thin at a position they covet. I got Walker on two dynasty team and swear to god when they went to the podium to announce the pick I had a really bad feeling a RB was coming.
IMO this is really negative for Charbs, it's not a bed of roses for Walker either.
IMO this is really negative for Charbs, it's not a bed of roses for Walker either.
LawFitz
Footballguy
This. Zack is a beast is his own right. Walker better watch his back.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Charbonnet was the 4th rookie off the board in the 4th round of a startup I did a couple weeks ago.
Oopsie for that guy.
I just threw out two offers of Walker for 1.2. First response I got back was "lol, they just drafted Charbs".
Things change in a hurry.
Now one can argue Charbs is no more comp then Montgomery and Walker is proven on the NFL level so I don't think it was a bad offer and fwiw I made on assumption he knew that Charbs had been picked. But just an idea of how things change.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I would think walker is still worth a decent amount more than Gibbs
I actually thought of making that offer this morning to give you and idea of how I feel.
Blick
Footballguy
In a PPR league, I’m not so sure.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Not only did this happen, but I saw from a reporter on twitter the Jets were considering Gibbs at 15. Literally no running back is safe.
I don’t know about that.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
I’d rather have Gibbs than Walker personally. Walker is a terrific runner but he already was a bit vacant as a receiver and now this. Much rather have Gibbs who I think will be deployed as a receiver more than a runner.
My biggest money dynasty team has Hall and Walker. That would have been something. I got Swift though as well, lol so Gibbs got me anyway.
But to your point this is why I value RB's like Gibbs. When you are involved I think he will be as a WR you can survive sharing the workload.
