Judge Smails
Footballguy
In most mocks he’s been there for me in the 8th but I think I have to jump on round 7 if I really want him.
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RB Zach Charbonnet, SEA (3 Viewers)
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RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Thoughts on Seattle's backfield ROS? I know week one heavily leaned Charbonnet and K9 owners are not happy to say the least. Do you believe this will continue to be the case or should one "sell high" on Charbs? K9 is injury prone and Charbonnet has shown to be an RB1 when it's fully his backfield.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
He’s superglued to my flex spot
Zow
Footballguy
Yeah I remain pretty high on Charbs simply because he's a valid flex play now and a low end RB1 should something happen to Walker.
In other words, unless I was offered like Chase Brown for him (in really any format), I'm probably not selling. I'd consider a 2026 first in dynasty but I'm rejecting a 2026 2nd. So, basically, I don't see trading him any time soon because my asking price is likely higher than what somebody would pay. I'm fully invested.
In other words, unless I was offered like Chase Brown for him (in really any format), I'm probably not selling. I'd consider a 2026 first in dynasty but I'm rejecting a 2026 2nd. So, basically, I don't see trading him any time soon because my asking price is likely higher than what somebody would pay. I'm fully invested.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Pittman was offered to me in a Dynasty format straight up for Charbs
-I'm thinking about it
Zow
Footballguy
Not to nitpick, but I don't have Ridley as a low end WR1. I'm also not high on Moore.
Tee Higgins for him in either format would probably be my barometer for "Yeah, I should really think about this."
In all seriousness, did you watch the game? I went back and watched every Seattle possession. "Heavily leaned" is a pretty drastic statement.
Yes, Chabonnet performed better. However, Walker got the start. Started the 2nd half. Was the primary back on the final two drives with the game on the line.
The last Seattle play was a pass in the flat to Walker which could have been a TD had the ball not been fumbled.
Just saying Ithink we need one more week to be sure.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Am I reading this right. 12 carries for 11 yards???
dmac37
Footballguy
Add a -6 rushing to that
footballpanda
Footballguy
I don’t have a clue what to say about this backfield
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I don’t see the point of overreacting to any given week.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
15 carries for 10 actually RAO
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
It’s pretty clearly KW3
… the team wants him to be the guy - barring health? He will be that guy,
Charbs is still the best backup in the league.
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Sure you do. Same as it's always been. When Walker is healthy, he is the guy. That has never changed.
footballpanda
Footballguy
Look I kind of agree but those are strange comments to make after Charb got more carries than KW3 for the 2nd week in a row
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Think of it like this … you’ve got a Ferrari in the garage, but you’ve also got an Audi in that same garage.
When it comes to game time? Which one are you going with? It’s always gong to be the Ferrari - that same sports car isn’t going to hold up if you drive it everyday. So? You’re gonna need that Audi.
But you’re always gonna drive that Ferrari first .. and if it holds up? Yessir you’re gonna drive that everyday.
Nice car you’ve got in that Audi though, but it’s just in case, your favorite car breaks.
habsfan
Footballguy
This is setting up as a "do over" (fantasy wise) of last season. The guy in my league with KWIII is happy and thinks he doesn't need to trade with me to get Charbs. "Why would I need him? I have the guy. I'm set." - until he misses time. At that point, I'm starting Charbs and not responding to his trade requests.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
… you sound like a guy that was wishing KW3 was toast.
Charbs is definitely a huge asset to any Walker owner - so, that other owner should be receptive to your offers, but don’t pretend you’ve got any leverage over that guy. Just keep calm and make offers that make sense for your team.
Army Eye
Footballguy
so is he not healthy now? because he's getting 50/50
Honestly, he may not be 100%. They have stated they will manage him.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
tough year for feet
It's an easy decision even if Charbonnet does play. Unless you have three top 10 RB's, Walker should be in your lineup.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
If he is healthy then he still won't make it easy for KW3 owners imo. The first week the sky was falling for Walker, now the sky is falling for Charbs. I fully expect these crazy point differential weeks between the 2 to happen a lot.
Walker will be the "starter" but Charbs will still outperform him at points. Not to mention Walker is a glass cannon.
Walker will be the "starter" but Charbs will still outperform him at points. Not to mention Walker is a glass cannon.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Stop. I'm on the Walker side with you, but seeing Charbs get this much run isn't encouraging. I went into this year expecting bellcow work. That isn't happening right now.
Edit - I'm still a Walker truther and have been all along. I WANT BELLCOW USAGE. Hopefully, week 2 shifts things moving forward
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
His rookie season he started roughly 10-11 games and in 7 of them he had 18-20+ carries and higher, that looked like a possible bell cow but also Pete Carroll was the HC
His 2nd season he didn't go over 17-18-19 carries very often
Last year different coach, 20 carries Game 1 and then he was injured.
Upon return he split time, once he was handed 25 carries in a game and then nowhere close rest of the way until injury again
-Not sure he should take more than 16-18 carries a game, if he can handle that without injury, you're talking about 250+ carries which would be a career high
Don’t agree that should ever be the case with a guy who plays less snaps and comes out in critical situations. Unless the usage changes he’s a low end RB2 and pretty far from a must start.
And still not sure he’s a better start then Charbs.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Via NFL.com:
Better days are ahead for Charbs. Get used to the rollercoaster that is Seattle's backfield.
Better days are ahead for Charbs. Get used to the rollercoaster that is Seattle's backfield.
I'm not stopping anything. Unless you have two top 10 RB's, you start Walker. Period.
Through two weeks this season, Walker is RB 20 in PPR leagues.
Ahead of:
Chase Brown
Kyren
Hall
Jeanty
Charbonnet is RB 44:
Behind:
Corum
Ford
BOTH NYG RB's
Walker doesn't need bell cow carries to be a top 20 RB. Charbonnet does.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I don't want a top 20 RB. I want a top 5 RB!
The usage isn't there after two games. There is reason to panic and not be happy, even with a strong second game. That doesn't mean I'm getting off the Walker train; I'm just not happy where things stand, and I expected more. To be determined...
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I think KW3 >> as players, but I am not fully sure the last line is fully accurate. By all accounts Charbonnett is the goalline back and all it takes is 1 run to make his fantasy day semi-relevant. He also ran more routes than Walker and out touched him.
I agree you definitely start KW3 if you have him, and Charbs is a bench guy for now, but if/when Walker is hurt then Charbonnett is an instant RB1/2.
Nobody has argued this.
I understand, but don't think many drafted him EXPECTING him to be a top 5 RB. Can he be? Yes.
I drafted him as my RB2 with the potential to score top 5 or 10 on any given week.
Footballdaz
Footballguy
Zach won't play this week. I grabbed George Holani in a league. Ya never know. If Walker goes down,You have a possible rb 2.
Plus I always like seeing what a rookie rb does in his first game. George probably gets 4-5 touches. If he does well,it cld mess up the rb room more lol
Plus I always like seeing what a rookie rb does in his first game. George probably gets 4-5 touches. If he does well,it cld mess up the rb room more lol
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Damn. Vs. the Saints is an elite matchip for RBs. Seattle should get up early and just pound the heck out of the rock.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
KW3 was the true kingmaker handcuff you should have drafted.
It’s his toe to be specific and I can’t recall a lot of toe issues that are bad enough to keep you out of a game and you are good to go the next week.
Largent
Footballguy
to be honest, Holani can do what Charbs does and with a little more pop. I get that Zach is the coaches dream kid....does the right things, works hard, stays late....but on this team it's Ken Walker and then JAGS....sorry not sorry.
I'll take the heat on this post end of season if I'm wrong, and own up to it.
I'll take the heat on this post end of season if I'm wrong, and own up to it.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I don't disagree, except I want to see Holani do it against regular season NFL play like Charbs has. KWIII is the special talent of the bunch, but the best ability is availability, ironic as it is saying that with Charbs injured.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Dang, people are underrating Charbs and that's surprising coming from a Hawks fan.
