Refs Should be Accountable for Making Awful Calls (1 Viewer)

[dfwboiler]

I'm not thinking the job of an NFL ref has a lot of qualified candidates that they can just start replacing officials on a weekly basis because of a bad call. And there's something to be said for crew cohesion.

Plus, I'm sure I'd be amazing at my job if an honest mistake would get me fired.

 

[JuniorNB]

I believe the officials have their own review process and get graded every game and can face consequences. Most people never hear of those is because the NFL wants those kept quiet, unlike that for players or coaches, and the officials have to do a lot of stuff to not discuss a lot of details on the operations of officials.

Ed Hochuli? He was directly involved in a terrible call. Many moons ago, mind you, but terrible nonetheless. What was his fine, exactly?

when has a player ever been fined for a terrible play? Your question was answered in the first or second reply. And you've been more wrong with each subsequent post.

Bad players get cut when they repeatedly suck. Bad refs like Jeff Tripplette stick around...forever.

Officials get reviewed and graded after every game. And if Triplet 'sucked', he wouldn't be an NFL official anymore. You're confusing making calls that don't favor your team with bad calls.

You saying Tripplette isn't bad at his job? Because you might be the first to ever defend this idiot.

I'm saying that the NFL has a very rigid way of grading their officials and I'm sure it's more effective than your biased way. They don't care about a 'perceived-by-you-to-be-a' blown call that takes points from your fantasy running back. Or costs your pro team a game. If he was as bad as you say, he wouldn't have a job. And it's laughable that you think you're a better judge of officiating than the league is.

So I say that Jeff Tripplette is proof that the NFL puts up with lackluster officials and you counter it with he's not lackluster because the NFL puts up with him? Guess we're done here.

I would say so. Since you think you're a better evaluator than the league. LOL Perhaps they should hire you.

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/01/04/nfl-assigns-jeff-triplette-san-diego-cincinnati

I will wait for you to counter with an article defending this boob.

you'll be waiting a long long time if you think I'm doing a search for you. Are you saying the league dorsnt review their official's work? Or that they just aren't good it?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

They are

If they truly were, there would be new faces every week.

This makes sense. Having a less experienced and completely different set of referees every single week would surely fix the problem.

 

[Judge Smails]

Horrible thread. If you are saying one ref is bad then say it - not 15 posts in. And document your proof.

The bottom line is it's a tough game to officiate. I'm actually shocked at how many they get RIGHT. Everyone screaming at the TV that the ref missed it - they go to slo mo and sure enough the ref was right. And they have the ability to be challenged if in fact they made the wrong call on certain plays. Holding is the tough one and hardest to be consistent on.

Not sure what you're beef is. Replay officials overruled Julio's TD. He was touched. And I own Julio.

 

[Hang 10]

you'll be waiting a long long time if you think I'm doing a search for you. Are you saying the league dorsnt review their official's work? Or that they just aren't good it?

Yes, I'm saying clearly they aren't good at it because this idiot has consecutive weeks of game altering screwups and still works a playoff game. Their review process is dubious at best.

When Mike Pereira won't carry a fellow officials water, you know that official is ###.

 

[B-Deep]

you'll be waiting a long long time if you think I'm doing a search for you. Are you saying the league dorsnt review their official's work? Or that they just aren't good it?

Yes, I'm saying clearly they aren't good at it because this idiot has consecutive weeks of game altering screwups and still works a playoff game. Their review process is dubious at best.

When Mike Pereira won't carry a fellow officials water, you know that official is ###.

Pereira is an issue, he is one of a few former officials who get paid by a network to give their opinion on the slow motion replays of select calls, and their opinion is treated by that network like the unfaltering word of god.

 

[zftcg]

Because the fans forgot how terrible the regular refs were during the replacement refs ordeal and forced the NFL to cave without getting full time refs or instant accountability/discipline for poor performance from refs, both of which were on the table.

I said it then and I'll say it now, the next time you're pissed off about how poor the refs are, you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.

And the fail Mary.

Why should you blame a play where the refs made the correct call?

 

[SWC]

if there is a dispute about a call they should have an interpreteive dance off instead of a review i know the home team would get an advantage because they would decide the dance off by applause but just think if you were like a patriocheaters fan ok maybe not because they do not have any true fans just bandwagoners maybe if you were a bears fan and you saw bj raji busting the dance from the song cheerleader by omi you would totally clap for him you know it and bam another victory for the packers down in chicagotown take that to the bank bromigos

 

[zftcg]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

 

[JuniorNB]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Of course. Hang10 is a Redskins fan. More specifically, an RG3 fan. So he's probably blamed multiple losses on referees during the Dan Snyder era. To suggest that he's a better judge of officiating than the league just makes him sound silly.

 

[Hang 10]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

 

[Nugget]

I hope Andy Reid gets fined.

 

[JuniorNB]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

Peter King was destroying the league during deflategate. Although I know that doesn't fit your narrative regarding the officials.

 

[Hang 10]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

Peter King was destroying the league during deflategate. Although I know that doesn't fit your narrative regarding the officials.

Why are you so vehemently defending Triplette? All that self tanning lotion is creating an orange fog in your mind, I think.

 

[JuniorNB]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

Peter King was destroying the league during deflategate. Although I know that doesn't fit your narrative regarding the officials.

Why are you so vehemently defending Triplette? All that self tanning lotion is creating an orange fog in your mind, I think.

I'm defending the league's process. I couldn't careless about Triplette. You should worry about your team's front office giving all your draft picks away for a glorified Akili Smith rather than cry like a sissy about referees all day.

 

[Hang 10]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

Peter King was destroying the league during deflategate. Although I know that doesn't fit your narrative regarding the officials.

Why are you so vehemently defending Triplette? All that self tanning lotion is creating an orange fog in your mind, I think.

I'm defending the league's process. I couldn't careless about Triplette. You should worry about your team's front office giving all your draft picks away for a glorified Akili Smith rather than cry like a sissy about referees all day.

Their process is hardly open, so I would say it's fair to question. And I'm not worrying or crying about anything. Just stating a fact that Jeff Triplette sucks. I've already showed you evidence from Peter King's own website.

 

[JuniorNB]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

Peter King was destroying the league during deflategate. Although I know that doesn't fit your narrative regarding the officials.

Why are you so vehemently defending Triplette? All that self tanning lotion is creating an orange fog in your mind, I think.

I'm defending the league's process. I couldn't careless about Triplette. You should worry about your team's front office giving all your draft picks away for a glorified Akili Smith rather than cry like a sissy about referees all day.

Their process is hardly open, so I would say it's fair to question. And I'm not worrying or crying about anything. Just stating a fact that Jeff Triplette sucks. I've already showed you evidence from Peter King's own website.

Ok. Jeff Triplette somehow manages to sneak his horrible officiating past the league's review process. Happy now?

 

[Hang 10]

FYI, Peter King and the MMQB did a multi-part series a couple years ago where they hung around with an officiating crew all week before a big game. The refs are graded on every single call, and there are absolutely costs to blowing a call in terms of playoff assignments and potentially even losing their jobs.

Oh, Pete King, the league's mouth piece, said the league was doing a great job? That changes everything!

Peter King was destroying the league during deflategate. Although I know that doesn't fit your narrative regarding the officials.

Why are you so vehemently defending Triplette? All that self tanning lotion is creating an orange fog in your mind, I think.

I'm defending the league's process. I couldn't careless about Triplette. You should worry about your team's front office giving all your draft picks away for a glorified Akili Smith rather than cry like a sissy about referees all day.

Their process is hardly open, so I would say it's fair to question. And I'm not worrying or crying about anything. Just stating a fact that Jeff Triplette sucks. I've already showed you evidence from Peter King's own website.

Ok. Jeff Triplette somehow manages to sneak his horrible officiating past the league's review process. Happy now?

Yes.

 

[Faust]

NFL must combat mere perception that Ed Hochuli is playing favorites:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/181546/nfl-must-combat-mere-perception-that-ed-hochuli-is-playing-favorites

 

[Faust]

NFL to investigate Ed Hochuli's 'not old enough' comment to Cam Newton:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13761939/referee-ed-hochuli-face-discipline-comments-made-cam-newton-carolina-panthers

 

[bagger]

Point being, we are only 2 weeks into the 2015 season. Several calls by the officials determined the outcome of several games.

Yes or No?

im going with No.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

I think there were 4 or 5 reviews last night where the call was reversed. Has that ever happened before? It seems that maybe 1 call gets a reversal whether it be a challenge or automatic review but last night was crazy.

 

[Hang 10]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/jeff-triplette-broncos-lions-game-taunting-extra-point-worst-referee-nfl

Triplette with another #### up.

 

[JuniorNB]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/jeff-triplette-broncos-lions-game-taunting-extra-point-worst-referee-nfl

Triplette with another #### up.

Now that they moved the extra point back, I bet they change that rule. A team should have the choice to assess the penalty on the extra point. 15 yards on the kickoff is meaningless.

 

[Hang 10]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/jeff-triplette-broncos-lions-game-taunting-extra-point-worst-referee-nfl

Triplette with another #### up.

Now that they moved the extra point back, I bet they change that rule. A team should have the choice to assess the penalty on the extra point. 15 yards on the kickoff is meaningless.

I agree with you but a head referee should probably know the current rule is, right?

 

[ourmanflint]

Officials get reviewed and graded after every game. And if Triplet 'sucked', he wouldn't be an NFL official anymore. You're confusing making calls that don't favor your team with bad calls.

You saying Tripplette isn't bad at his job? Because you might be the first to ever defend this idiot.

I'm saying that the NFL has a very rigid way of grading their officials and I'm sure it's more effective than your biased way. They don't care about a 'perceived-by-you-to-be-a' blown call that takes points from your fantasy running back. Or costs your pro team a game. If he was as bad as you say, he wouldn't have a job. And it's laughable that you think you're a better judge of officiating than the league is.

So I say that Jeff Tripplette is proof that the NFL puts up with lackluster officials and you counter it with he's not lackluster because the NFL puts up with him? Guess we're done here.

I would say so. Since you think you're a better evaluator than the league. LOL Perhaps they should hire you.

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/01/04/nfl-assigns-jeff-triplette-san-diego-cincinnati

I will wait for you to counter with an article defending this boob.

you'll be waiting a long long time if you think I'm doing a search for you. Are you saying the league dorsnt review their official's work? Or that they just aren't good it?

Triplette is, in fact, certifiably horrible. He proves it over and over. Serious concern over the evaluation process.

 

[JuniorNB]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/jeff-triplette-broncos-lions-game-taunting-extra-point-worst-referee-nfl

Triplette with another #### up.

Now that they moved the extra point back, I bet they change that rule. A team should have the choice to assess the penalty on the extra point. 15 yards on the kickoff is meaningless.

I agree with you but a head referee should probably know the current rule is, right?

Correct

 

[Faust]

NFL closes the book on Ed Hochuli-Cam Newton case:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/29/nfl-closes-the-book-on-ed-hochuli-cam-newton-case/

 

[Faust]

Blandino: K.J. Wright committed 'foul for an illegal bat'

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000551015/article/blandino-kj-wright-committed-foul-for-an-illegal-bat

 

[Faust]

Lions' James Ihedigbo: Refs need to be accountable

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000551030/article/lions-james-ihedigbo-refs-need-to-be-accountable

 

[Run It Up]

Ignoring the absolutely ridiculous missed call in the MNF game, holy #### did the Lions get ####ed by the officials for an entire game.

Everytime Wilson scrambled you couldn't count the holds on one hand. The blocks in the back were almost as bad. The illegal blocking by Seattle's oline that injured two Detroit defenders. Just absolute trash.

 

[MG345]

Ignoring the absolutely ridiculous missed call in the MNF game, holy #### did the Lions get ####ed by the officials for an entire game.

Everytime Wilson scrambled you couldn't count the holds on one hand. The blocks in the back were almost as bad. The illegal blocking by Seattle's oline that injured two Detroit defenders. Just absolute trash.

Sounding like a salty hater.

 

[kOOk]

Refs are just like cops.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

With three minutes left in overtime, Ed Hocule was guillotined on the 50 yard line for a bad PI call.

Welcome to the Roman Colliseum.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Refs are just like cops.

Yup. 99% of the time they do a very difficult job with professionalism and accuracy, but everyone hates them for that 1%.

 

[Sabertooth]

Refs are just like cops.

Yup. 99% of the time they do a very difficult job with professionalism and accuracy, but everyone hates them for that 1%.

Do you have research to back up those numbers? Or just guessing. I doubt their accuracy.

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

 

[Hang 10]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

Don't be surprised when this crew is working the NFC championship game.

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

Don't be surprised when this crew is working the NFC championship game.

And don't be surprised when Seattle is in that game because of this blown call.

 

[Hang 10]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

Don't be surprised when this crew is working the NFC championship game.

And don't be surprised when Seattle is in that game because of this blown call.

Very possible.

 

[Bronco Billy]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not disputing the fumble or the great play that Chancellor made.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

There is no explaining common sense to some people. What does the fumble have to do with the non call penalty ?

 

[Bronco Billy]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

There is no explaining common sense to some people. What does the fumble have to do with the non call penalty ?

Without the first the second never happens?

 

[SWC]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

There is no explaining common sense to some people. What does the fumble have to do with the non call penalty ?

Without the first the second never happens?

brohan come one the dumb guy stick is my thing stop trying to steal it that one is taken around these here parts and that guy is moi take that to the bank bromigo

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

There is no explaining common sense to some people. What does the fumble have to do with the non call penalty ?

Without the first the second never happens?

And if there was an earthquake in Seattle before the game, none of it happens. Do you have any kind of point?

 

[Bronco Billy]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

There is no explaining common sense to some people. What does the fumble have to do with the non call penalty ?

Without the first the second never happens?

And if there was an earthquake in Seattle before the game, none of it happens. Do you have any kind of point?

No, not really. Other than if Johnson takes care of the football in a critical situation that this whole thing is moot.

Other than that, I really don't care much either way.

 

[mbuehner]

A player may not bat or punch: (a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.

(b) A ball in player possession.

Note: If there is any question as to whether a defender is stripping or batting a ball in player possession, the official(s) will rule the action as a legal act (stripping the ball).

The lawyer in me would note that Chancellor punched the ball in a players possession, which would appear to be illegal, and not subject to the note which only specifically excludes batting while stripping

 

[JuniorNB]

I wonder if the back judge had the opinion that he didn't purposely bat the ball out or if he didn't know the rule. Both are equally as frightening. There wasn't one ref in that entire crew that didn't realize that Detroit should have been awarded the ball at the one? Or do you think they didn't have the balls to reverse that in front of the loud hostile crowd? At any rate, not knowing the rules totally reversed the outcome of a game. That can't happen. Someone from the officials office should be able to call the game crew while this is going on.

You think the refs should have instructed CJ to secure the ball better?

There is no explaining common sense to some people. What does the fumble have to do with the non call penalty ?

Without the first the second never happens?

And if there was an earthquake in Seattle before the game, none of it happens. Do you have any kind of point?

No, not really. Other than if Johnson takes care of the football in a critical situation that this whole thing is moot.

Other than that, I really don't care much either way.

Who is arguing that? And if Seattle scores more than 13 points at home against a winless team, it matters even less. It still has nothing to do with a referee not knowing the rules and it costing a team a win.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Good grief Billy. Pat Kirwin has been leading the band on the main issue... there are too many rules and too much complexity to reasonably officiate games. This issue is magnified by the fact that this is a part time job for these guys. Simplify the rules and make them comprehensible. Even coaches do not know what constitutes a catch these days.

Geez.