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Restaurants have gotten so expensive……also recycling and phone apps (1 Viewer)

I agree to an extent. Problem is I absolutely have to drink something with my meal and oftentimes their water tastes nasty. I've all but given up sodas so I've been drinking the heck outta iced teas lately. But four bucks?!!?!?

You know ... in a way, it's a form of the "cost plus" pricing model @dkp993 and I were discussing upthread. Not exactly a tack-on fee ... but that $4.00 tea is doing a lot of profit-boosting work all the same.

And people probably price a place most often based on advertised food prices. "Hey, that $18.99 steak ain't bad!" But then add on a $4.00 tea or an $8.00 draft, and the restaurant scratches a good bit of profit right back. Desserts and appetizers, too? Those $18.99 dinners end up being more like $35 a head - before tip.

"Would either of you like a cup of coffee before you go?".......60% of the time that worked 100% of the time. Tack on $5 to the tab, go out back and smoke since they'll stay put for 5....
 
What I’ve noticed aside from the higher price already mentioned is:

1. Smaller portions with the higher price
2. Limits on or no specials. For example there is a great burger joint around us and it used to sell burgers for reduced menu prices on Monday. Now they got rid of that and only offer the deal once per month.

On the flip side- My daughter is in college and waits tables. She’s making a killing with tips especially since the place she works at sells a lot of alcohol which inflates the bill.

I was begging - BEGGING - my son to get a job waiting tables this summer. Good looking kid, great personality, he'd TON it in this environment.

He's working for Jersey Mikes instead. :mellow:
Waiting tables is definitely a better job. As long as it's not a place that's not gonna milk the $2/hour side work too much.

Oh well. If it's a really good place to wait tables, he'd just end up blowing all the money on drugs from the cook anyway.

Well, while I'm sure he wouldn't blow it on, uh, *blow*, he's blowing what he is making on his lady friend. He has fraternity dues and food to buy this school year. I'm covering room and rent....he needs skin in the game so a server job would have been a boon. Instead, he cares more about the skin game.

Jersey Mike's isn't too bad. They share tips and get $17ish. His older brother worked there and did very well for himself but he's a worker and a saver.
$17 doesn't seem too bad for Jersey Mike's.

Aside from the money, waiting tables is really good for young folk. Some good customer service experience at Jersey Mike's I'm sure, but there's just something that's good for a young person's soul about learning to have a good attitude when getting dogged by a party of 6 for an hour then getting stiffed.
 
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​


Thanks…that is fascinating…Happy Hours are illegal in Massachusetts but that Is easily the cheapest I have seen wine/liquor pricing in decades…I can’t think of anything remotely close in this neck of the woods…would love to look at their books and see how they are doing…some of the pricing for the booze is dangerous…leave the car at home!

Server said the place is busy from 11am until pretty much 2am. 7 days a week.
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

8 of us went there last Saturday after playing softball and we had a blast. Yes it is a dump, a dive bar for sure, but the food was really good, beer was cheap and the people watching better. not the typical snooty downtown Northville/Plymouth crowd that is certain.
Hey, watch it buddy! lol just kidding there’s a lot of annoying snooty people around here. Northville is much worse than Plymouth imo.

Yes it is. If you walked into the Wagon When you would not think you are in Northville. Without a doubt the diviest place in Northville.
Yeah I haven't been there in probably 15+ years but I agree it doesn't feel like Northville at all
 
I remember a few years ago the mantra being "if you can't afford eating out, stay home". Looks like more and more are following that advice.
Is it? Not sure about other places but Detroit it seems like there is a new restaurant opening every week and every place is always crowded.
 
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​


Thanks…that is fascinating…Happy Hours are illegal in Massachusetts but that Is easily the cheapest I have seen wine/liquor pricing in decades…I can’t think of anything remotely close in this neck of the woods…would love to look at their books and see how they are doing…some of the pricing for the booze is dangerous…leave the car at home!

Server said the place is busy from 11am until pretty much 2am. 7 days a week.
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

8 of us went there last Saturday after playing softball and we had a blast. Yes it is a dump, a dive bar for sure, but the food was really good, beer was cheap and the people watching better. not the typical snooty downtown Northville/Plymouth crowd that is certain.
Hey, watch it buddy! lol just kidding there’s a lot of annoying snooty people around here. Northville is much worse than Plymouth imo.

Yes it is. If you walked into the Wagon When you would not think you are in Northville. Without a doubt the diviest place in Northville.

Not surprised they are busy with that pricing...you're not getting a better deal than that...it is the making $ part that I would like to know more about...I have seen plenty of busy places go under because they are absolutely clueless about stuff like beverage or food cost...what type of structure/building is it and do you know how long they have owned it...so curious about this place.
 
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

I’ve been a handful of times not sure I’ve ever eaten there
It's no Bloated Goat...

Never been but huge goat fan so I might have to pop in sometime, hope they have T-Shirts. Never in that area, but know some people that work out there


Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

8 of us went there last Saturday after playing softball and we had a blast. 30 years, more like 50 years. Been there since the track has been there.

Yes it is a dump, a dive bar for sure, but the food was really good, beer was cheap and the people watching better. Not the typical snooty downtown Northville/Plymouth crowd that is certain. Exactly what we were looking for all dirty and sweaty.

Two servers were all tatted up with push up bras. what more could you ask for?

I miss Penn Grill aka Yoga Pants Grill, at least that’s what we called it when I worked out there
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)
 
i ate at a sushi place in south beach last fall and you ordered everything on your phone. you start an order with your credit card when you 1st sit down and you keep picking things throughout your stay. you essentially just have bus boys that clear plates and bring out the stuff you order. and they don't allow tipping. it was like a dream.
 
Only value around here other than Costco seems to be Mexican food. It’s SoCal - so plenty to great options. Man - we have a truck a mile from our house and it’s awesome. Can still get a plate of tacos or a great pastor burrito that’s very reasonable. Also a sit down place we go to and it’s great and a good value - though they get it back to me from margaritas.

I was in Orlando. Stayed at the Ritz. Just got back. Roasted chicken? $62. I kid you not. That chicken could be genetically perfect. Free range, organic, comes from a fine line of poultry - you name it. What a rip off.
 
This is all spot on - at some point it will come crashing down. The average Joe just can't keep this going forever.
Our family of four used to go out to eat about 3-5 times per month. Never fancy places -- the kind of places where the four of us could get out for under $60 after tipping (and even a few gems that were ~$40-45 after tip).

Currently, we are priced out of that level of restaurant-visiting frequency. We don't even make it out once a month as a family anymore -- it's just a now-and-then thing. That fits how my parents thought of restaurant dining when I was coming up in the 1970s and 1980s -- a once- or twice-a-year thing for us plebes, but really the province of the wealthy. Seems to me we're kind of back to that.

The casual-type restaurants that catered to (lower) middle-class families throughout the 2000s and 2010s probably can't make the ends meet anymore -- they can't price down to the levels need to keep a similar customer base that was their bread-and-butter for 20 years. And those places don't have the cache to price up and compete in the higher-end casual-dining space (and for sure not in fine dining).
Might be a mixed blessing. Growing up in an affordable, super-sized culture has left us collectively unhealthier in many ways. It’s cheaper to eat better (health wise) at home.
:goodposting:

We went overboard on vacation, but it was intentional and what you're getting at is why. Rather than going out and eating mediocre food 5 times at $120 a pop we opted for 3x - once at $150 and twice at $225 - then cooked the rest. We're on the ocean, so if we're eating seafood we're eating the right seafood - not the cheap stuff. As a result both our dining choices and what we cooked were both healthier. It helps that our kids are easy on the road too. As long as there is a 3 pm ice cream stop they're content filling the gaps with pb&j and whatever fruit/veggies we didn't finish before leaving.
 
I was in Orlando. Stayed at the Ritz. Just got back. Roasted chicken? $62. I kid you not. That chicken could be genetically perfect. Free range, organic, comes from a fine line of poultry - you name it. What a rip off.
I agree that they paste “value labels” on meals to appear better! Mrs Birdie & I celebrated anniversary in Asheville this past weekend - we split a meal & brought it back to hotel terrace: 1 appetizer, 1 chicken entree & 1 dessert = $95 before T/T. And they had a line out door waiting to drop coin!!
 
Local Vietnamese take out tonight:
2 garlic noodles with broiled pork
1 shrimp spring rolls
2 crab puffs (Rangoon)
$65

Daughter was out with a friend and picked it up… I did not see if there was a “service fee”
 
Just got back from a week vacation at the beach in FL. In 4 different restaurants we were told up front by our server that they had adopted a new policy. They add 20% to every bill, with 15% going to the server and 5% going to the rest of the staff (bar, dishwashers, bussers, etc). They were clear to point out that no additional gratuity was required or expected, but that if any was given it would go 100% to the server. And that if we didn't agree with the mandatory 20% on top, this was our chance to opt out and leave before we ordered anything.
Interesting. Where in Florida?
I'm two pages late in responding to this, but it was Destin, FL. The server at the last place mentioned that this was a result of a new state-wide bill that was voted on during their most recent general election - what was voted on was whether or not restaurants could adopt this policy if they wanted to, not that the policy would be mandatory for all restaurants. We went to a couple others that didn't use it, but all the ones that did were sure to have the servers mention it upfront, and one even had a sign posted on the door and a little disclaimer on the front page of their menu about it.
Apparently some of the Disney restaurants are doing this. So says my wife who talks to Disney fanatics online in a similar manner to how I talk to magick football enthusiasts online.
 
Just got back from a week vacation at the beach in FL. In 4 different restaurants we were told up front by our server that they had adopted a new policy. They add 20% to every bill, with 15% going to the server and 5% going to the rest of the staff (bar, dishwashers, bussers, etc). They were clear to point out that no additional gratuity was required or expected, but that if any was given it would go 100% to the server. And that if we didn't agree with the mandatory 20% on top, this was our chance to opt out and leave before we ordered anything.
Interesting. Where in Florida?
I'm two pages late in responding to this, but it was Destin, FL. The server at the last place mentioned that this was a result of a new state-wide bill that was voted on during their most recent general election - what was voted on was whether or not restaurants could adopt this policy if they wanted to, not that the policy would be mandatory for all restaurants. We went to a couple others that didn't use it, but all the ones that did were sure to have the servers mention it upfront, and one even had a sign posted on the door and a little disclaimer on the front page of their menu about it.
Apparently some of the Disney restaurants are doing this. So says my wife who talks to Disney fanatics online in a similar manner to how I talk to magick football enthusiasts online.

You are all known as my “imaginary friends”
 
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I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.

Breastaurants have really evolved since Hooters and people definitely like them given all the copy cats out there (Tilted Kilt, Twin Peaks, etc)
 
Only value around here other than Costco seems to be Mexican food. It’s SoCal - so plenty to great options. Man - we have a truck a mile from our house and it’s awesome. Can still get a plate of tacos or a great pastor burrito that’s very reasonable. Also a sit down place we go to and it’s great and a good value - though they get it back to me from margaritas.

Yep, same in Houston with most Tex Mex and Vietnamese spots.
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
The cute chicks part was a little bit tongue in cheek wasn't the main point of my post.
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
I’m not into that vibe at all but there is a locally owned independent bar by my where the women all wear bikinis and they absolutely smash. The parking lot is always packed no matter the say day or time. I was talking to a guy once who’s friend worked there. He said there Miller Lite sales are #1 in the State and the girls are making six figures in tips. Seems hard to believe selling cheap burgers and domestic beer but then again, we know how guys are.
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
I’m not into that vibe at all but there is a locally owned independent bar by my where the women all wear bikinis and they absolutely smash. The parking lot is always packed no matter the say day or time. I was talking to a guy once who’s friend worked there. He said there Miller Lite sales are #1 in the State and the girls are making six figures in tips. Seems hard to believe selling cheap burgers and domestic beer but then again, we know how guys are.

Yacht Club?
 
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)
Self service is already happening. Food halls are already all over my city.
Across street from my building

Picture free WiFi, big tables, and 5 or 6 small kitchens with a few people handling the food running. Restaurants can have a kitchen staff, no management, and cut out all middle management, hosts, servers, etc.

QR code on the table, sends you to the app, you can get sushi for yourself from one place, and a hot dog for your kid from another place. If you are a low maintenance diner, which I definitely am, it's great. Also: no table turning. You want to sit for hours with laptop, and drink coffee, no one cares.
 
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​


Thanks…that is fascinating…Happy Hours are illegal in Massachusetts but that Is easily the cheapest I have seen wine/liquor pricing in decades…I can’t think of anything remotely close in this neck of the woods…would love to look at their books and see how they are doing…some of the pricing for the booze is dangerous…leave the car at home!

Server said the place is busy from 11am until pretty much 2am. 7 days a week.
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

8 of us went there last Saturday after playing softball and we had a blast. Yes it is a dump, a dive bar for sure, but the food was really good, beer was cheap and the people watching better. not the typical snooty downtown Northville/Plymouth crowd that is certain.
Hey, watch it buddy! lol just kidding there’s a lot of annoying snooty people around here. Northville is much worse than Plymouth imo.

Yes it is. If you walked into the Wagon When you would not think you are in Northville. Without a doubt the diviest place in Northville.
Yeah I haven't been there in probably 15+ years but I agree it doesn't feel like Northville at all

I have driven by there 100 times but only been there twice. First time I walked in we almost walked out until this young lady yells "how ya doing..need a couple beers?"
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
I’m not into that vibe at all but there is a locally owned independent bar by my where the women all wear bikinis and they absolutely smash. The parking lot is always packed no matter the say day or time. I was talking to a guy once who’s friend worked there. He said there Miller Lite sales are #1 in the State and the girls are making six figures in tips. Seems hard to believe selling cheap burgers and domestic beer but then again, we know how guys are.
Has to be Yacht Club. Been there a few times. :)

If so it was just sold to a group. Owner was pushing 80 and wanted to get out. 21 year old women serving in thong bikinis + cold beer seems like a good recipe for success. It is a dude ranch though.
 
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

I’ve been a handful of times not sure I’ve ever eaten there
It's no Bloated Goat...

Never been but huge goat fan so I might have to pop in sometime, hope they have T-Shirts. Never in that area, but know some people that work out there


Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

8 of us went there last Saturday after playing softball and we had a blast. 30 years, more like 50 years. Been there since the track has been there.

Yes it is a dump, a dive bar for sure, but the food was really good, beer was cheap and the people watching better. Not the typical snooty downtown Northville/Plymouth crowd that is certain. Exactly what we were looking for all dirty and sweaty.

Two servers were all tatted up with push up bras. what more could you ask for?

I miss Penn Grill aka Yoga Pants Grill, at least that’s what we called it when I worked out there
They DO have TShirts! I gift one every couple years in the FFA TShirt exchange. I think @BroncoFreak_2K3 goes there more than me.
 
Local Vietnamese take out tonight:
2 garlic noodles with broiled pork
1 shrimp spring rolls
2 crab puffs (Rangoon)
$65

Daughter was out with a friend and picked it up… I did not see if there was a “service fee”

Noodles with a little pork, spring and crab puffs with fake crab. Food cost probably around 5-7 dollars tops.

My buddy was the sales manager for Sysco Foods. Used to show me breakdowns on food costs. Said the Asian, Mexican, Chinese, places with the style of cooking have much lower food costs. On the other end steakhouses much higher. Plus when there is a bad steak is costs way more to replace.

Stir fry 3 ounces of cheap chicken or pork in spices, throw in some veggies and a big scoop of rice and the plate looks huge and people are happy.
 
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
I’m not into that vibe at all but there is a locally owned independent bar by my where the women all wear bikinis and they absolutely smash. The parking lot is always packed no matter the say day or time. I was talking to a guy once who’s friend worked there. He said there Miller Lite sales are #1 in the State and the girls are making six figures in tips. Seems hard to believe selling cheap burgers and domestic beer but then again, we know how guys are.

Yacht Club?
Of course
 
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​


Thanks…that is fascinating…Happy Hours are illegal in Massachusetts but that Is easily the cheapest I have seen wine/liquor pricing in decades…I can’t think of anything remotely close in this neck of the woods…would love to look at their books and see how they are doing…some of the pricing for the booze is dangerous…leave the car at home!

Server said the place is busy from 11am until pretty much 2am. 7 days a week.
Went to a bar near Royal Oak MI. yesterday.

2.50 22oz domestic drafts all day. 3 dollar wine pours. Half off all apps on Wedesday.

Had 2 tall Coors Lites, wife has 2 wines, split 3 apps. Bill was 32.00 before tip.

Needless to say the place was jammed.

$3 wine pours...do you actually have a copy of their menu you can post...social clubs don't even come close to that and they are as cheap as you get.

Daily Specials​

MONDAY​

$3 Well Drinks & ½ off House Wine (House wine only)

TUESDAY​

FREE Pool $4 Green teas, $4 Michigan Pints*, $4 Titos (All Day!), ½ off Breadzas 9pm -1am (dine-in only)

WEDNESDAY​

½ off Appetizers 3-9pm (dine-in only), $4 Jack Daniels all day & night

THURSDAY​

Drink Specials – $3 Well Drinks (All Day!) 9pm – Midnight – $4 You Call it! *Select Pints & Select Premiums!

SATURDAY – POWER HOUR​

10-11pm, $3 Well Drinks, Straight Shot & Select Domestic Bottle Beers

SATURDAY & SUNDAY​

$8.99 Burger & Fries ‘til 4pm

SUNDAY​

$2 PBR Draft (All Day!) Service Industry 10% off total bill for bar & restaurant employees

$2.5 – 22OZ. DRAFT LABATT BLUE, COORS LIGHT & PBR. $4.5 MULES!!! EVERY DAY​

What bar? Looks like a place I should at least try.

Renshaws Pub, 14 Mile and Main Street. It is nice inside too.
GB Michigan.

They need to change the state motto to........."Go on to AZ or FL if you want to, but here it's not 125 degrees, we have water, and reasonably priced beer!"

Check this menu out. This is in Keerocks area. https://www.zmenu.com/wagon-wheel-lounge-hotel-northville-online-menu/

Plus 2.5 bottle beer and 10 dollar pitchers. When I went there I thought it was an old menu from 20 years ago. And the food is good!!
:lmao: That place is a complete dump... been there for at least 30 years... but the food is decent and the beer cheap. Crowd is sus.

8 of us went there last Saturday after playing softball and we had a blast. Yes it is a dump, a dive bar for sure, but the food was really good, beer was cheap and the people watching better. not the typical snooty downtown Northville/Plymouth crowd that is certain.
Hey, watch it buddy! lol just kidding there’s a lot of annoying snooty people around here. Northville is much worse than Plymouth imo.

Yes it is. If you walked into the Wagon When you would not think you are in Northville. Without a doubt the diviest place in Northville.
Yeah I haven't been there in probably 15+ years but I agree it doesn't feel like Northville at all

I have driven by there 100 times but only been there twice. First time I walked in we almost walked out until this young lady yells "how ya doing..need a couple beers?"
I get restaurant news in my inbox daily. Just today there was an article on prices starting to flatten/ease. It will come full circle. You’ll see discounts, buy one get 1/2 half, etc soon. You’ll also see more and more self service when possible to cut people costs. It’s all about kiosks. Higher end restaurant will price to get the desired margin - until their rooms are half empty. Then they’ll compete.
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)

Honestly I’ve never picked a restaurant because they have hot chicks waiting tables, even back in my massive horndog years. Give me an old battleaxe waitress who calls me “Hon“ knows the menu and brings me what I want when I want it.
I’m not into that vibe at all but there is a locally owned independent bar by my where the women all wear bikinis and they absolutely smash. The parking lot is always packed no matter the say day or time. I was talking to a guy once who’s friend worked there. He said there Miller Lite sales are #1 in the State and the girls are making six figures in tips. Seems hard to believe selling cheap burgers and domestic beer but then again, we know how guys are.
Has to be Yacht Club. Been there a few times. :)

If so it was just sold to a group. Owner was pushing 80 and wanted to get out. 21 year old women serving in thong bikinis + cold beer seems like a good recipe for success. It is a dude ranch though.
Yep, it's other big selling point IMO is the name: Lake Pointe Yacht Club. While everyone around knows what it is, if you do have a corporate job, the name sounds classy and doesn't draw any red flags if it appears on expense reports.
 
Stir fry 3 ounces of cheap chicken or pork in spices, throw in some veggies and a big scoop of rice and the plate looks huge and people are happy
Probably healthier. When I was in Europe 30 years ago, I noticed that portion sizes were smaller. Also healthier, since total calories alone predicts a poor lipid profile (see the twinkie diet). Vegan restaurants should be cheaper, but they aren't since the market size is small.
 
not sure about the self service, employees are pretty cheap since a lot of their wage is tips. when people go out to eat at higher end restaurants i think they want personal interaction (i.e. cute chicks)
Self service is already happening. Food halls are already all over my city.
Across street from my building

Picture free WiFi, big tables, and 5 or 6 small kitchens with a few people handling the food running. Restaurants can have a kitchen staff, no management, and cut out all middle management, hosts, servers, etc.

QR code on the table, sends you to the app, you can get sushi for yourself from one place, and a hot dog for your kid from another place. If you are a low maintenance diner, which I definitely am, it's great. Also: no table turning. You want to sit for hours with laptop, and drink coffee, no one cares.

Love this concept. Here's a popular one locally -- check out the Vendors link up top for a feel of what's offered:


Setting up food-hall stall has far less overhead than a traditional restaurant. A lot of the people that start up these stalls love to cook, and have a small menu that they're awesome at cranking out. Without the overhead, they can charge about 2/3 the price (often less) of a traditional restaurant.

Just as an easy example ... the coffee guy in the St Roch Market -- here are his prices. Basically take our local Starbucks prices and knock off 30-40%.
 
Probably healthier. When I was in Europe 30 years ago, I noticed that portion sizes were smaller. Also healthier, since total calories alone predicts a poor lipid profile (see the twinkie diet). Vegan restaurants should be cheaper, but they aren't since the market size is small.
This is a biggie for me. And to me huge proponent of healthy heating for folks who are trying to diet and get fit. When I'm cranking on all cylinders I really watch the portions for dinners at home and restaurants.

We've tried to install this with our kids since they were little. Eat until you are full. Don't feel like you have to eat everything on your plate.
 
Probably healthier. When I was in Europe 30 years ago, I noticed that portion sizes were smaller. Also healthier, since total calories alone predicts a poor lipid profile (see the twinkie diet). Vegan restaurants should be cheaper, but they aren't since the market size is small.
This is a biggie for me. And to me huge proponent of healthy heating for folks who are trying to diet and get fit. When I'm cranking on all cylinders I really watch the portions for dinners at home and restaurants.

We've tried to install this with our kids since they were little. Eat until you are full. Don't feel like you have to eat everything on your plate.
When we go out to eat, we try to order stuff that we know will reheat well as leftovers. The portions at most places are just ridiculous.
 
I don't order main courses.
Do you ever order them to split?
You know, yeah, I am fine doing it, but rarely do so. I'd rather have an interesting side and an app as my main.

Oh I know one place I do it: steak houses. I eat at a nice steak house, and sharing my steak is mandatory. I might not share if I order the tuna at a steak house, but I'm not a moron, so I would never order tuna in a steakhouse.

Always sit at the bar, and an app, steak, and a side is enough for three people, in reality. I always kind of think steak houses are a bargain, to me.
 
Local Vietnamese take out tonight:
2 garlic noodles with broiled pork
1 shrimp spring rolls
2 crab puffs (Rangoon)
$65

Daughter was out with a friend and picked it up… I did not see if there was a “service fee”

Noodles with a little pork, spring and crab puffs with fake crab. Food cost probably around 5-7 dollars tops.

My buddy was the sales manager for Sysco Foods. Used to show me breakdowns on food costs. Said the Asian, Mexican, Chinese, places with the style of cooking have much lower food costs. On the other end steakhouses much higher. Plus when there is a bad steak is costs way more to replace.

Stir fry 3 ounces of cheap chicken or pork in spices, throw in some veggies and a big scoop of rice and the plate looks huge and people are happy.

Yes.. grains and dry noodles are low expense, plus they tend to source lower graded proteins.

if i recall:
garlic noodle with pork= about $15
Spring rolls: about $15
Rangoon: about $7

These restaurant does a good job, so i am mostly ok with the bill. I do not think they have had big markups over Covid.
 
I used to go out to lunch every day at work for a long time - once a sandwich, chips and drink eclipsed $10 I started bringing from home. I forgot the other day for the 1st time in a while and was shocked to see sandwich, chips and drink for $17. Thats over $350 per month for sandwich lunches - I know Im sounding old but thats crazy!
 
one thing that has not gotten expensive is parnera same great food same great prices and like a billion fine dining locations all over america you cant beat it take that to the bank brohans

Probably my least favorite restaurant to eat at
My son calls it "expensive prison food" :D

Glad I’m not the only one. My kids love it. I think everything tastes like bread.
Hence the name.
i will not have you heathens bee smirch the good name of parnera in this thread prisoners need to eat too and when they get parnera they feel like andy and red on the roof drinking a cold one while hadley says drink up while its cold ladies and the collosal prick even manages to sound magnanimous take that to the bank brohans
 
one thing that has not gotten expensive is parnera same great food same great prices and like a billion fine dining locations all over america you cant beat it take that to the bank brohans

Probably my least favorite restaurant to eat at
My son calls it "expensive prison food" :D

Glad I’m not the only one. My kids love it. I think everything tastes like bread.
Hence the name.
i will not have you heathens bee smirch the good name of parnera in this thread prisoners need to eat too and when they get parnera they feel like andy and red on the roof drinking a cold one while hadley says drink up while its cold ladies and the collosal prick even manages to sound magnanimous take that to the bank brohans
I haven't been in a Panera for a while. I don't necessarily have an issue with their food, but if i recall, they do not list what is on their sandwiches. I do not want to be surprised with items i do not like (there are not many). They also have had a high percentage of getting my orders incorrect.

After one of my daughter's away games, we were seeking open restaurants and care across a Panera. It was close to closing and they did not have many bread choices. I don't entirely blame them for this, but I always walk away from them disappointed
 
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Never been in a Panera. There's one near my parents, and whenever I drive by, I think I need to stop in on the recommendation of my brohan from another mohan, but I don't know what goes in there. "Bread" is a bit vague.
 

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