Ministry of Pain
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Hey buddy, when Nate is speaking about his role now is getting Titus ready for 2012...writing is on the wall.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Wanted LaFell a couple rounds ago but couldn't justify it with St Smith already on board. Best ball so we'll see how this plays out. Coaches and teammates have all said he is their WR2, he and Naanee, they split up 80/1100/4 TD a year ago, LaFell had a 17 ypc avg, very happy to find him in the 11th. I see both LaFell and Titus Young having breakout years.
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OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
What qoute did you read to much into this time?Hey buddy, when Nate is speaking about his role now is getting Titus ready for 2012...writing is on the wall.
Fiddles
Footballguy
saw him on the nfl network saying it about a month ago. the way stafford chucks it they will both have value.What qoute did you read to much into this time?Hey buddy, when Nate is speaking about his role now is getting Titus ready for 2012...writing is on the wall.
ShadowMaster
Footballguy
So much for starting a TeamD run
OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
Shadow,
Hold off on making your picks. (You posting a 3:30am EDST makes that unlikely.)
I believe Stinkin ref didn't get his full allotment of time.
Emailed Scott.
Hold off on making your picks. (You posting a 3:30am EDST makes that unlikely.)
I believe Stinkin ref didn't get his full allotment of time.
Emailed Scott.
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rzrback77
Footballguy
best laid plans - headed to a doctor appointment now and will be off-line for at least two hours. I probably will not be missed.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
thanks for holding up guys....give me a minute or so....
I would like
Vincent Brown WR SD
I would like
Vincent Brown WR SD
Team Legacy
Footballguy
Okay,
So we had a situation where Stinkin Ref was skipped overnight even though we had the setting to pause it.
I spoke to Dan @ rtsports and he said if we have that issue again, to email him @ dan@rtsports.com and he will personally fix it for us because its not a known bug at this time.
I went ahead and gave Ref - Vincent Brown so Shadowmaster is now OTC!
Great pace guys!!
-Scott
So we had a situation where Stinkin Ref was skipped overnight even though we had the setting to pause it.
I spoke to Dan @ rtsports and he said if we have that issue again, to email him @ dan@rtsports.com and he will personally fix it for us because its not a known bug at this time.
I went ahead and gave Ref - Vincent Brown so Shadowmaster is now OTC!
Great pace guys!!
-Scott
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Well it got doneIn general the draft room screen takes quite a while to load sometimes so you just need to give it time (not sure whether their server is still having problems or it is me and the weather here because many sites are slower than normal this week)
ShadowMaster
Footballguy
The FBI shut down some Malware servers this Monday which has impacted all infected PCs'Captain Hook said:
valence
Footballguy
RTS is fine next year. After 3 picks that I did not want I just turned auto draft off unless I know I'm not going to be able to check in for more than 8 hours. I still think the instant / instant 1 pick settings are screwy for the turns, but now I know and can adjust accordingly.
ShadowMaster
Footballguy
OK - now that both guys and both backups are picked......
Someone explain this to me:
R.Mendenhall tore his ACL week 17. All reports have him healing well. He is sprinting in straight lines at full speed, etc. Fantasy wise he is a deep sleeper pick while his replacement Redman is going pretty high (round 5).
A.Peterson tore his ACL/MCL/??? (1 more) in week 16. All reports have him healing well. He is sprinting in straight lines at full speed, etc. Fantasy wise he is going in the 3rd while his replacement Gerhart goes as a late round deep sleeper.
Can you really have it both ways? I don't think you can. IMO the Mendenhall projection seems accurate, while the Peterson situation seems reversed. Can't see either ready for week 1. Heck, I still believe both could start PUP. Can't see anyone's knee ready for pro football RB contact 9 months after major reconstruction.
Thoughts?
Someone explain this to me:
R.Mendenhall tore his ACL week 17. All reports have him healing well. He is sprinting in straight lines at full speed, etc. Fantasy wise he is a deep sleeper pick while his replacement Redman is going pretty high (round 5).
A.Peterson tore his ACL/MCL/??? (1 more) in week 16. All reports have him healing well. He is sprinting in straight lines at full speed, etc. Fantasy wise he is going in the 3rd while his replacement Gerhart goes as a late round deep sleeper.
Can you really have it both ways? I don't think you can. IMO the Mendenhall projection seems accurate, while the Peterson situation seems reversed. Can't see either ready for week 1. Heck, I still believe both could start PUP. Can't see anyone's knee ready for pro football RB contact 9 months after major reconstruction.
Thoughts?
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
An 80% AP is startable with upside.
Mendy not so much.
Mendy not so much.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
three picks to go for most of us - thought it would be a good idea to look at rosters w/byes/comments/etc
QB - Matt Ryan (7) & Josh Freeman (5)
RB - T. Richardson (10), Willis McGahee (7), Mikel LeShoure (5)
WR - Victor Cruz (11), Miles Austin (5), Robert Meachem (7), James Jones (10), Devin Hester (6)
TE - GRONK (9) & Owen Daniels (8)
K - Akers (9)
DST - Detroit Lions (5) & Arizona Cardinals (10)
QB - Matt Ryan (7) & Josh Freeman (5)
RB - T. Richardson (10), Willis McGahee (7), Mikel LeShoure (5)
WR - Victor Cruz (11), Miles Austin (5), Robert Meachem (7), James Jones (10), Devin Hester (6)
TE - GRONK (9) & Owen Daniels (8)
K - Akers (9)
DST - Detroit Lions (5) & Arizona Cardinals (10)
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
not an expert on this topic as I haven't done a ton of research on their progress...but he is my point of view on it which could prove out to be totaly wrong...MENDY: in most leagues/structures/kinda normal roster sizes to me he is undraftable....what I have heard is that he will start on PUP which makes him anavailable for at least 6 games IIRC....personally I'm not holding a roster spot that long and then also waiting for him to get back up to speed and for the team to work him back in....personally I don't think he gets his role back as we know it....I think this will be his last year in PIT....I think people are hanging on and wishing/hoping that he all of a sudden becomes this "late season savior" to their fantasy season....unless you have huge rosters that gamble doesn't seem worth it.....cause my thoughts are he really wasn't uber talented to begin with and that he isn't THAT much better than Redman...REDMAN: I liked what I saw when he was given a chance....he is in a good situation...PIT should be throwing the ball more this year, but Redman should be fine in the running game....for where you can get him, I think he is a solid RB2...theres points to be had out there for him and the he should be motivated enough to hold of the lower level talent behind him...ADP: kind of a freak so I could see him coming back and at some point returning to the ADP we all know...seems like he gets off on #### like this....(coming back from an injury and dominating proving he is kind of a freak).....I think he could be a steal at his current spot as the season progresses....GERHARDT: from what I have seen, the plan is that he gets more work regarless of how well ADP comes back....in a best ball format he could be a nice play to have....maybe not so much in a league where you have to submit a lineup each week....and if ADP is late to come back you get a starting back for the first few weeks at a low cost....you can ride that pony till he starts to lose touches and then drop him if you need to.....kind of opposite of what you would have to do with Mendy....seems like no matter what Toby will get some 3rd down love and some carries....
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ShadowMaster
Footballguy
I think alot of ths Peterson hype is based on what Welker was able to do when injured around the same time frame.
Welker did come back at (I'm guessing here based on the numbers) "80%" and produce; however, I think we all agree he was not full strength and not as productive.
So can an 80% AP be productive. He is a physical specimen, so I'm sure he can be.
The BIG, no HUGE difference for me is in their positions. Welker plays out of the slot and is used in motion. He rarely gets bumped at the line. He runs crossing patterns that get him the ball well past the first level of defenders (and with TommyB, often right on target and in stride). He mostly gets hit by DBs and he has many options to avoid the contact like getting out of bounds or diving down after a solid gain.
AP is nowhere near the same situation. First, he has to take on the first level of defenders on every play. These are big and heavy linemen and 'backers that punish more when they tackle you. RBs also take way more hits on the legs, and thus KNEES when they work through the lines. One solid lateral hit on a less than repaired knee and it can be hurt again. At 9 months post-op, AP can't be full strength when his injury takes 12+ months to fully heal. Add in that RBs get more touches and thus take more hits, plus they NEED to fight for every yard so they do not often get the WR options to avoid hard tackles on plays.
Even with my more reckless draft this year, this was too much risk for my taste.
Welker did come back at (I'm guessing here based on the numbers) "80%" and produce; however, I think we all agree he was not full strength and not as productive.
So can an 80% AP be productive. He is a physical specimen, so I'm sure he can be.
The BIG, no HUGE difference for me is in their positions. Welker plays out of the slot and is used in motion. He rarely gets bumped at the line. He runs crossing patterns that get him the ball well past the first level of defenders (and with TommyB, often right on target and in stride). He mostly gets hit by DBs and he has many options to avoid the contact like getting out of bounds or diving down after a solid gain.
AP is nowhere near the same situation. First, he has to take on the first level of defenders on every play. These are big and heavy linemen and 'backers that punish more when they tackle you. RBs also take way more hits on the legs, and thus KNEES when they work through the lines. One solid lateral hit on a less than repaired knee and it can be hurt again. At 9 months post-op, AP can't be full strength when his injury takes 12+ months to fully heal. Add in that RBs get more touches and thus take more hits, plus they NEED to fight for every yard so they do not often get the WR options to avoid hard tackles on plays.
Even with my more reckless draft this year, this was too much risk for my taste.
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ShadowMaster
Footballguy
With that said..... thoughts on Josh Gordon? Seemed like a decent WR6 prospect. 6'4" 220 and pretty fast. Am I drinking the cool aide?
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Yes, yes you areI don't doubt Gordon's talent but I also don't think that Cleveland is the best organization to keep someone on the straight and narrow where Gordon will need to learn to live. The other problem is that in a draft/hold league you can't rectify the mistake by dumping/adding a replacement. I haven't checked your bye situation but if he scores more than one week for your team I will be very surprised
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
When is the last time he played organized football? Was he drafted by a team that will surround him with talent? Has he got a top20 QB? We looked at him, just think on an 18 man roster with no waiver wire moves, you might be asking for a lot here.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
Some twitter conversation about the draft board:
Scott Atkins @RedBlueRadiohttps://twitter.com/RedBlueRadio#DRAFT-EVAL Which team you like best? 6perTD 1ppr 2ppr (TEs) Start 1-2-3-1-1-1 http://awesomescreenshot.com/0a0amqye0 REUNION LEAGUE
RumfordJohnny @RumfordJohnny@RedBlueRadio Fiddles, Kevin & James are the front runners at first glance.
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloomhttps://twitter.com/SigmundBloom@RedBlueRadio team legacy looks strong, fiddles too
Scott Atkins @RedBlueRadiohttps://twitter.com/RedBlueRadio@RumfordJohnny Kevin & James both went WR heavy. Starting 3 studs every week. What is the difference between Fiddles and Team Legacy IYO?
RumfordJohnny @RumfordJohnnyhttps://twitter.com/RumfordJohnny@RedBlueRadio Not a ton really, but I prefer to wait on a QB. Both teams are strong though.
Scott Atkins @RedBlueRadiohttps://twitter.com/RedBlueRadio#DRAFT-EVAL Which team you like best? 6perTD 1ppr 2ppr (TEs) Start 1-2-3-1-1-1 http://awesomescreenshot.com/0a0amqye0 REUNION LEAGUE
RumfordJohnny @RumfordJohnny@RedBlueRadio Fiddles, Kevin & James are the front runners at first glance.
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloomhttps://twitter.com/SigmundBloom@RedBlueRadio team legacy looks strong, fiddles too
Scott Atkins @RedBlueRadiohttps://twitter.com/RedBlueRadio@RumfordJohnny Kevin & James both went WR heavy. Starting 3 studs every week. What is the difference between Fiddles and Team Legacy IYO?
RumfordJohnny @RumfordJohnnyhttps://twitter.com/RumfordJohnny@RedBlueRadio Not a ton really, but I prefer to wait on a QB. Both teams are strong though.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
QB - Cam Newton 6 Kevin Kolb 10 - Spent 2nd rounder on Top QB option. A
RB - McCoy 7 Murray 5 Vereen 9 Quizz 7 - Spent 2 of 3 picks on top two backs in a start 2 league. A
WR - Colston 6 ABrown 4 Garcon 10 DHB 5 Quick 9 Baldwin 7 - Waiting until the 4th for the 1st WR in a start 3 league is dangerous, but I think WR is pretty deep this year. Feel like I came out great - B
TE - FDavis 10 Tamme 7 - Love this combo to outproduce any team that doesn't have Gronk or Graham. - B+
PK - Prater 7 Rackers 10 - Two kickers - Pass.
DST - Cincy 8 ?? - Eventually two defenses - Pass.
RB - McCoy 7 Murray 5 Vereen 9 Quizz 7 - Spent 2 of 3 picks on top two backs in a start 2 league. A
WR - Colston 6 ABrown 4 Garcon 10 DHB 5 Quick 9 Baldwin 7 - Waiting until the 4th for the 1st WR in a start 3 league is dangerous, but I think WR is pretty deep this year. Feel like I came out great - B
TE - FDavis 10 Tamme 7 - Love this combo to outproduce any team that doesn't have Gronk or Graham. - B+
PK - Prater 7 Rackers 10 - Two kickers - Pass.
DST - Cincy 8 ?? - Eventually two defenses - Pass.
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rzrback77
Footballguy
One pick still remaining but here is team rzrback
QB - Stafford (5) and Cassel (7) - had somewhat hesitatingly decided to go late on QB for this league, primarily due to draft slot. With 14 teams, it is more important to get one of the top options though and when Stafford was still there at pick 26, I just could not say no. Thought several times about adding a solid #2, but could not pull the trigger and decided to go cheap with Cassel, who although on a team with a run focus should be the guy all year unless injured.
RB - Rice (8), Martin (5), Redman (4), Jennings (6) and Pierce (8) - Went stud RB with the third draft slot. after that all of these selections were simply what I saw as value picks where they were taken. Martin was the 21st RB and grabbed a whole round after Wells at RB20. Similaely Redman went as RB 28 and almost a round after Stewart at RB26. Jennings is a reach for the stars type pick if Jones-Drew holds out and gets injured and Pierce is similar, but my hand-cuff for Rice.
WR - R. White (7), Britt (11), S. Rice (11), Collie (4) and Blackmon (6) - Well, I almost always go heavy at WR with our scoring rules and try to identify less risky players, but this group came from the opposite approach. It is definitely a risk laden bunch. I, along with the rest of the planet love the talents of Julio Jones and expect that Roddy's targets will finally decrease in 2012, but taken as WR8 and after both Jones and Green, seemed like a great constant at WR #1. He has been the leader in targets over the past two years and will still have plenty of chances. After getting him, I seemed to always go for the "upside" pick. Britt coming off knee surgery seemed a nice pick at WR21. Really wanted Colston who TL nabbed one pick before. I see Colston as top ten candidate. Was planning to take another WR, but when Maclin and V. Jackson were picked decided to get Martin. Got Rice at WR34 and also considered Holmes but went with Rice, who needs to be healthy to justify this pick. I think that Collie is an excellent upside option at WR54, but he is the third injury guy in a row with his concussion history. Not good to collect so many of those. Followed him up with Blackmon at WR55, who could be great at that spot, but have to hope that the Jaguars QB play vastly improves.
TE - Gresham (8) and Keller (9) - Would have taken Hernandez at 3.3 instead of White, but knew that the Stinkin Ref was going to take him. After he disappeared thought that it would be better to wait and try to get these two much later. I think that both of them ourplay their ADP. I got them here at TE14 and TE15. Gresham finished TE13 a year ago and missed two games. I think that Cincinnati will pass more and better this year and he could finish top ten. Keller has finished TE9 two years in a row and is the best receiver that the Jets have. I really like the value of Keller in 2012.
DST - Eagles (7) and Seahawks (11) - Eagles disappointed last year, but have a lot of players and the Seahawks should be ok as #2
PK - Kaeding (7) - I like Kaeding as I had few players with a week 7 bye and the Chargers have a reasonably good offense.
Feel free to critique, but outside of the risky WRs I really like this squad. I have been able to produce top points in this league a couple of years, but unable to produce in the playoffs. Maybe this team gives me another opportunity.
QB - Stafford (5) and Cassel (7) - had somewhat hesitatingly decided to go late on QB for this league, primarily due to draft slot. With 14 teams, it is more important to get one of the top options though and when Stafford was still there at pick 26, I just could not say no. Thought several times about adding a solid #2, but could not pull the trigger and decided to go cheap with Cassel, who although on a team with a run focus should be the guy all year unless injured.
RB - Rice (8), Martin (5), Redman (4), Jennings (6) and Pierce (8) - Went stud RB with the third draft slot. after that all of these selections were simply what I saw as value picks where they were taken. Martin was the 21st RB and grabbed a whole round after Wells at RB20. Similaely Redman went as RB 28 and almost a round after Stewart at RB26. Jennings is a reach for the stars type pick if Jones-Drew holds out and gets injured and Pierce is similar, but my hand-cuff for Rice.
WR - R. White (7), Britt (11), S. Rice (11), Collie (4) and Blackmon (6) - Well, I almost always go heavy at WR with our scoring rules and try to identify less risky players, but this group came from the opposite approach. It is definitely a risk laden bunch. I, along with the rest of the planet love the talents of Julio Jones and expect that Roddy's targets will finally decrease in 2012, but taken as WR8 and after both Jones and Green, seemed like a great constant at WR #1. He has been the leader in targets over the past two years and will still have plenty of chances. After getting him, I seemed to always go for the "upside" pick. Britt coming off knee surgery seemed a nice pick at WR21. Really wanted Colston who TL nabbed one pick before. I see Colston as top ten candidate. Was planning to take another WR, but when Maclin and V. Jackson were picked decided to get Martin. Got Rice at WR34 and also considered Holmes but went with Rice, who needs to be healthy to justify this pick. I think that Collie is an excellent upside option at WR54, but he is the third injury guy in a row with his concussion history. Not good to collect so many of those. Followed him up with Blackmon at WR55, who could be great at that spot, but have to hope that the Jaguars QB play vastly improves.
TE - Gresham (8) and Keller (9) - Would have taken Hernandez at 3.3 instead of White, but knew that the Stinkin Ref was going to take him. After he disappeared thought that it would be better to wait and try to get these two much later. I think that both of them ourplay their ADP. I got them here at TE14 and TE15. Gresham finished TE13 a year ago and missed two games. I think that Cincinnati will pass more and better this year and he could finish top ten. Keller has finished TE9 two years in a row and is the best receiver that the Jets have. I really like the value of Keller in 2012.
DST - Eagles (7) and Seahawks (11) - Eagles disappointed last year, but have a lot of players and the Seahawks should be ok as #2
PK - Kaeding (7) - I like Kaeding as I had few players with a week 7 bye and the Chargers have a reasonably good offense.
Feel free to critique, but outside of the risky WRs I really like this squad. I have been able to produce top points in this league a couple of years, but unable to produce in the playoffs. Maybe this team gives me another opportunity.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
I am not quite as high on your TE - remains to be seen if RGIII will target Davis as much and while I also like the Manning/Tamme carryover connection, Dreesen is also a good receiver and there are the two good young wideouts in Thomas and Decker and Peyton's old buddy Stokely all looking for balls to come their way. I don't think he is the Broncos Dallas Clark
Team Legacy
Footballguy
Took everything in me to not select Robert Turbin in favor of my second defense.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Final squad with my grades/comments
QB - Matt Ryan (7) & Josh Freeman (5)
I think this is one of the better non Stud QB combos as I expect Ryan with a new OC who likes to throw and will run Turner less to continue to improve and getting him in round 6 was definitely great value. Freeman has the arm and they have added VJax so the upside potential is there. B+
RB - T. Richardson (10), Willis McGahee (7), Mikel LeShoure (5), Mike Goodson (5), Kendall Hunter (9)
TRich is not proven but with a full workload in Cleveland is clearly a lower RB1. I know some don't like Willis and the Ronnie Hillman hype is blowing a lot of smoke but McGahee was good last year and will be better this year as Peyton moves the offense up a notch. LeShoure was perhaps not my best choice at 8.05 but the RB pool was thinned - still if you told me I would get Goodson in the 16th and Hunter in the 18th I might have used the pick for something else. Still this is a decent group with lots of upside - when DMac goes on vacation or if Gore gets injured this group will jump a full level .......for now B-
WR - Victor Cruz (11), Miles Austin (5), Robert Meachem (7), James Jones (10), Devin Hester (6)
None of the clear Stud wideouts here - that is what happens when you start the draft TE/RB but still regardless of whose rankings/projections you use the top three are all in the top 28 with Cruz and Austin both having WR1 upside. Meachem is so far undervalued in drafts I have seen as he should be a great target for Rivers. James Jones always has a couple of huge games each year and while Hester deserves to be a WR5 the speed adds a lot of upside and I will be happy if he scores three times this season with this group. B+
TE - GRONK (9) & Owen Daniels (8)
I was glad to roster one of the two STUD TE in the first round with 2 PPR. Gronkowski will continue to have a ton of receptions and while the number of touchdowns will likely go down he is still the main red zone target for Brady. Owen Daniels is a nice backup A+
K - Akers (9) & Gould (6)
Two top ten kickers - Akers was huge last year and could be busy again this year
DST - Detroit Lions (5) & Arizona Cardinals (10)
A strong Lions defense and Patrick Peterson
Overall - a strong B+ that easily moves to an A team in this format if Goodson or Hunter are playing as their team's RB1 for six games or more.
Looking forward to competing against all of you again in what has become a great league.
QB - Matt Ryan (7) & Josh Freeman (5)
I think this is one of the better non Stud QB combos as I expect Ryan with a new OC who likes to throw and will run Turner less to continue to improve and getting him in round 6 was definitely great value. Freeman has the arm and they have added VJax so the upside potential is there. B+
RB - T. Richardson (10), Willis McGahee (7), Mikel LeShoure (5), Mike Goodson (5), Kendall Hunter (9)
TRich is not proven but with a full workload in Cleveland is clearly a lower RB1. I know some don't like Willis and the Ronnie Hillman hype is blowing a lot of smoke but McGahee was good last year and will be better this year as Peyton moves the offense up a notch. LeShoure was perhaps not my best choice at 8.05 but the RB pool was thinned - still if you told me I would get Goodson in the 16th and Hunter in the 18th I might have used the pick for something else. Still this is a decent group with lots of upside - when DMac goes on vacation or if Gore gets injured this group will jump a full level .......for now B-
WR - Victor Cruz (11), Miles Austin (5), Robert Meachem (7), James Jones (10), Devin Hester (6)
None of the clear Stud wideouts here - that is what happens when you start the draft TE/RB but still regardless of whose rankings/projections you use the top three are all in the top 28 with Cruz and Austin both having WR1 upside. Meachem is so far undervalued in drafts I have seen as he should be a great target for Rivers. James Jones always has a couple of huge games each year and while Hester deserves to be a WR5 the speed adds a lot of upside and I will be happy if he scores three times this season with this group. B+
TE - GRONK (9) & Owen Daniels (8)
I was glad to roster one of the two STUD TE in the first round with 2 PPR. Gronkowski will continue to have a ton of receptions and while the number of touchdowns will likely go down he is still the main red zone target for Brady. Owen Daniels is a nice backup A+
K - Akers (9) & Gould (6)
Two top ten kickers - Akers was huge last year and could be busy again this year
DST - Detroit Lions (5) & Arizona Cardinals (10)
A strong Lions defense and Patrick Peterson
Overall - a strong B+ that easily moves to an A team in this format if Goodson or Hunter are playing as their team's RB1 for six games or more.
Looking forward to competing against all of you again in what has become a great league.
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Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
grouse
Footballguy
Gentlemen, just want to thank you all for getting this league together again. I love the competition against you guys, and I also love the draft it & leave it format. It's the only one I do quite like this and I look forward to it each season.
I failed to offer up any commentary on my team last season, so in an effort to do a bit better this year, I'll put some pen to digital paper now.
To be honest, I saw my 13th pick round position and right from the get-go was not too happy about it. But the one silver lining is that I really enjoy having book-end picks, it really gives you an opportunity to muscle and shape your draft the way you want it. I tried to use that to my advantage as best I could.
Here is my complete team with bye weeks; some brief positional commentary to follow...
QB - Eli Manning (11), Tim Tebow (9)
Perhaps I'm one of the few people who are bullish on Tebow this year. IMO, he landed in the ideal spot with the Jets. Rex Ryan must have watched how the Broncos were winning their games with Tebow, and while most fans were hating it, he was probably salivating. Ball on the ground football, few mistakes, grind it out, keep the score close, let the defense do their job, and win the game in the 4th quarter. If that's not Rex Ryan football, I don't know what is. With Eli Manning sporting a late week 11 bye, I felt this gave Tebow ample time to entrench himself if not as the starter, at least a solid fantasy producer. People think Tebow will be marginalized to a few gadget plays per game, I think the opposite. I think Sanchez is the one who will see less and less of the field as the season progresses. I'm happy rolling with these guys. I almost considered adding Matt Flynn as well, but opted for a 4th TE instead. Manning should be good enough most weeks, and if Tebow does what Tebow is capable of, then I should be golden.
RB - Darren McFadden (5), Peyton Hillis (7), Benjarvus Green-Ellis (8), Jahvid Best (5)
I'll come clean straight away and tell you that I'm not a huge McFadden fan. Talented yes, but made of glass. In fact, I could see just about all of these RBs having health issues at some point during the season. But I could also see this unit performing very well most weeks because each guy has a significant and defined roll to play on their respective teams. It's a good collective. McFadden is the bell cow, Hillis is the touchdown vulture, Green-Ellis is the volume guy and Best is the homerun hitter. But if McFadden & Best both go down with significant ailments at the same time, all bets are off. And let's be honest, that could easily happen.
WR - Andre Johnson (8), Percy Harvin (11), Dez Bryant (5), Nate Washington (11), Steve Breaston (7), Michael Floyd (10)
I'm quite happy with how this unit came together. In a best-ball format, I can see this unit collectively giving me 3 quality options most weeks. Obviously the one caveat is Andre being able to keep his hamstrings in his pants. If he goes down for any length of time, it will take a minor miracle to keep this group ultra competitive. Fingers crossed.
TE - Kellen Winslow (11), John Carlson (11), Kellen Davis (6), Lance Kendricks (9)
It's tempting especially given our scoring format to grab an elite TE early. I resisted numerous times and made a decision early in the draft to grab value elsewhere and instead opt for a volume approach at TE later in the draft. I'm not going to wax poetic about any of these guys. Each has some upside, and each could equally fall flat on their face. At least I have 4 of them. I've never lost a league because of my TE, and I suspect that will be the case again. It's not sexy, but it should work.
PK - Dan Carpenter (7)
DST - New York Jets (9)
This is where things get mildly controversial. Again, this was a decision made early in the draft, in part from past experience in this format, and in part due to necessity to jive with other strategic ideas about how this team would be assembled. It's a gamble to fly solo at these positions, but I consciously chose options here that fell on bye weeks that were the least taxing on my team. I have noticed over the years that game margins in this format tend to not be as close as formats where you have more control over the roster on a week to week basis. I'm gambling that in week 7 & 9, the margin in my game won't be small enough that either Carpenter or the Jets absence would've made the difference. I hope I'm right.
Overall, I think this is one of the more competitive teams I've drafted in recent REUNION memory. I've languished in middle-of-the-pack finishes since winning the inaugural SSLIV REUNION league many moons ago. I hope the injury gods are with me this year and this team can at least make a title challenging run. One can hope
Good luck to everyone!!
I failed to offer up any commentary on my team last season, so in an effort to do a bit better this year, I'll put some pen to digital paper now.
To be honest, I saw my 13th pick round position and right from the get-go was not too happy about it. But the one silver lining is that I really enjoy having book-end picks, it really gives you an opportunity to muscle and shape your draft the way you want it. I tried to use that to my advantage as best I could.
Here is my complete team with bye weeks; some brief positional commentary to follow...
QB - Eli Manning (11), Tim Tebow (9)
Perhaps I'm one of the few people who are bullish on Tebow this year. IMO, he landed in the ideal spot with the Jets. Rex Ryan must have watched how the Broncos were winning their games with Tebow, and while most fans were hating it, he was probably salivating. Ball on the ground football, few mistakes, grind it out, keep the score close, let the defense do their job, and win the game in the 4th quarter. If that's not Rex Ryan football, I don't know what is. With Eli Manning sporting a late week 11 bye, I felt this gave Tebow ample time to entrench himself if not as the starter, at least a solid fantasy producer. People think Tebow will be marginalized to a few gadget plays per game, I think the opposite. I think Sanchez is the one who will see less and less of the field as the season progresses. I'm happy rolling with these guys. I almost considered adding Matt Flynn as well, but opted for a 4th TE instead. Manning should be good enough most weeks, and if Tebow does what Tebow is capable of, then I should be golden.
RB - Darren McFadden (5), Peyton Hillis (7), Benjarvus Green-Ellis (8), Jahvid Best (5)
I'll come clean straight away and tell you that I'm not a huge McFadden fan. Talented yes, but made of glass. In fact, I could see just about all of these RBs having health issues at some point during the season. But I could also see this unit performing very well most weeks because each guy has a significant and defined roll to play on their respective teams. It's a good collective. McFadden is the bell cow, Hillis is the touchdown vulture, Green-Ellis is the volume guy and Best is the homerun hitter. But if McFadden & Best both go down with significant ailments at the same time, all bets are off. And let's be honest, that could easily happen.
WR - Andre Johnson (8), Percy Harvin (11), Dez Bryant (5), Nate Washington (11), Steve Breaston (7), Michael Floyd (10)
I'm quite happy with how this unit came together. In a best-ball format, I can see this unit collectively giving me 3 quality options most weeks. Obviously the one caveat is Andre being able to keep his hamstrings in his pants. If he goes down for any length of time, it will take a minor miracle to keep this group ultra competitive. Fingers crossed.
TE - Kellen Winslow (11), John Carlson (11), Kellen Davis (6), Lance Kendricks (9)
It's tempting especially given our scoring format to grab an elite TE early. I resisted numerous times and made a decision early in the draft to grab value elsewhere and instead opt for a volume approach at TE later in the draft. I'm not going to wax poetic about any of these guys. Each has some upside, and each could equally fall flat on their face. At least I have 4 of them. I've never lost a league because of my TE, and I suspect that will be the case again. It's not sexy, but it should work.
PK - Dan Carpenter (7)
DST - New York Jets (9)
This is where things get mildly controversial. Again, this was a decision made early in the draft, in part from past experience in this format, and in part due to necessity to jive with other strategic ideas about how this team would be assembled. It's a gamble to fly solo at these positions, but I consciously chose options here that fell on bye weeks that were the least taxing on my team. I have noticed over the years that game margins in this format tend to not be as close as formats where you have more control over the roster on a week to week basis. I'm gambling that in week 7 & 9, the margin in my game won't be small enough that either Carpenter or the Jets absence would've made the difference. I hope I'm right.
Overall, I think this is one of the more competitive teams I've drafted in recent REUNION memory. I've languished in middle-of-the-pack finishes since winning the inaugural SSLIV REUNION league many moons ago. I hope the injury gods are with me this year and this team can at least make a title challenging run. One can hope
Good luck to everyone!!
rzrback77
Footballguy
Just commenting on the WRs here, but there is no way that group of five is better than middle of the pack. I really like the top two to have many solid weeks, particularly with Bryant already acting up. However I am not sold on Meachem being a consistent producer and the last two are well down my lists. Having only five to score three slots each week is a challenge, but further compounded when two of the five are WR3s at best on their own team.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Well we can't all agree on picks/strategy.I think Hester will be fine as my WR5 - will he score every week? Of course not but a couple of big games with a bomb will be a plus. Really aside from adding scores to choose from on bye weeks, and having a solid starting three, why not try for some home run hitters with those extra WR?
Here is the outlook from FBG player page on Hester
"There is no debate that Devin Hester is a special player. He's perhaps the best return specialist in the history of the NFL. However, he has not remotely played at that level as a wide receiver. This year, new teammate Brandon Marshall has told the media in OTAs that Hester will have a breakout season and the Bears offense has been redesigned to take advantage of Hester's strengths. The offensive redesign may be the case, but we're a little more skeptical about a subset of plays leading to a massive increase in offensive production. This is especially the case when the Bears added rookie Alshon Jeffery early in the draft, a receiver that is a big, bullying presence, with better hands than Hester and a true presence in tight, physical coverage. Hester may have an increase in production, but we still don't see him exceeding the status of a solid flex-play in 2012."
I like both Marshall's comment, Cutler's comments to the same point and as FBG says a "solid flex play" - that is exactly what he is as a WR5 in a best ball league
As far as five WR, fair point - normally I would go with six but my first five happened to not share any bye weeks so my choice with my last pick was an upside receiver (LeStar Jean, HOU) or Hunter and I think Hunter has much greater upside and would help me more with RB scoring than Jean or another receiver
Team Legacy
Footballguy
I really like how this team turned out! You went TE over QB, the decision many of us must face, and in this league it makes perfect sense to do so. I will echo other sentiments that the 5th RB was not necesary in a start 2 RB and that a 6th WR would have been perfect for this team. Hartline seemed like a safe bet to be a contributor to me, even in the 18th round. However, I can understand why you were cautious as Willis as your RB2 would make anybody, In this format, its my opinion that you lock down your starters and then take fliers at RB3 and 4 and stop. You either hit or you dont. You need the starters elsewhere usually because with an injury during bye week situations, the team is toast. 2-4-6-2-2-2 is the safest play, while I will consider 1 defense and an extra pick completely fine too. The difference between going 1 kicker and 1 defense is that the kicker can get hurt, while the defense will play every week regardless. Meachem as your 3 should be more than adequate. IMO, this is a well built team and very soundly drafted one. I think in the end, this team if it can avoid a big injury to the WR position, will be playoffs for sure.
rzrback77
Footballguy
team rzrback77
QB - Stafford (5) and Cassel (7) (B-) Had somewhat hesitatingly decided to go late on QB for this league, primarily due to draft slot. With 14 teams, it is more important to get one of the top options though and when Stafford was still there at pick 26, I just could not say no. Thought several times about adding a solid #2, but could not pull the trigger and decided to go cheap with Cassel, who although on a team with a run focus should be the guy all year unless injured. Top five candidate combined with low second tier, with injury factor on Stafford.
RB - Rice (8), Martin (5), Redman (4), Jennings (6) and Pierce (8)(A-) Went stud RB with the third draft slot. after that all of these selections were simply what I saw as value picks where they were taken. Martin was the 21st RB and grabbed a whole round after Wells at RB20. Similaely Redman went as RB 28 and almost a round after Stewart at RB26. Jennings is a reach for the stars type pick if Jones-Drew holds out and gets injured and Pierce is similar, but my hand-cuff for Rice. Agree with TL that I had to fight back adding Turbin with my last pick.
WR - R. White (7), Britt (11), S. Rice (11), Collie (4), Blackmon (6) and Hartline (7) (C+) Well, I almost always go heavy at WR with our scoring rules and try to identify less risky players, but this group came from the opposite approach. It is definitely a risk laden bunch. I, along with the rest of the planet love the talents of Julio Jones and expect that Roddy's targets will finally decrease in 2012, but taken as WR8 and after both Jones and Green, seemed like a great constant at WR #1. He has been the leader in targets over the past two years and will still have plenty of chances. After getting him, I seemed to always go for the "upside" pick. Britt coming off knee surgery seemed a nice pick at WR21. Really wanted Colston who TL nabbed one pick before. I see Colston as top ten candidate. Was planning to take another WR, but when Maclin and V. Jackson were picked decided to get Martin. Got Rice at WR34 and also considered Holmes but went with Rice, who needs to be healthy to justify this pick. I think that Collie is an excellent upside option at WR54, but he is the third injury guy in a row with his concussion history. Not good to collect so many of those. Followed him up with Blackmon at WR55, who could be great at that spot, but have to hope that the Jaguars QB play vastly improves. Hartline is one of those deep target guys that could explode and give me scores in two or three weeks. Too much injury recovery and risk here for this group to be ranked above eighth or ninth in the league.
TE - Gresham (8) and Keller (9) (B-) Would have taken Hernandez at 3.3 instead of White, but knew that the Stinkin Ref was going to take him. After he disappeared thought that it would be better to wait and try to get these two much later. I think that both of them ourplay their ADP. I got them here at TE14 and TE15. Gresham finished TE13 a year ago and missed two games. I think that Cincinnati will pass more and better this year and he could finish top ten. Keller has finished TE9 two years in a row and is the best receiver that the Jets have. I really like the value of Keller in 2012.
DST - Eagles (7) and Seahawks (11) - Eagles disappointed last year, but have a lot of players and the Seahawks should be ok as #2
PK - Kaeding (7) - I like Kaeding as I had few players with a week 7 bye and the Chargers have a reasonably good offense.
Please guys, take some time and critique. I concur with Grouse that this league is the one I look forward to as kicking off the season and I enjoy not only drafting against y'all, but also following along as the season plays out. Outside of the risk at my WRs I really like this squad. I have been able to produce top points in this league a couple of years, but never have been able to produce in the playoffs. Maybe this team gives me another opportunity.
QB - Stafford (5) and Cassel (7) (B-) Had somewhat hesitatingly decided to go late on QB for this league, primarily due to draft slot. With 14 teams, it is more important to get one of the top options though and when Stafford was still there at pick 26, I just could not say no. Thought several times about adding a solid #2, but could not pull the trigger and decided to go cheap with Cassel, who although on a team with a run focus should be the guy all year unless injured. Top five candidate combined with low second tier, with injury factor on Stafford.
RB - Rice (8), Martin (5), Redman (4), Jennings (6) and Pierce (8)(A-) Went stud RB with the third draft slot. after that all of these selections were simply what I saw as value picks where they were taken. Martin was the 21st RB and grabbed a whole round after Wells at RB20. Similaely Redman went as RB 28 and almost a round after Stewart at RB26. Jennings is a reach for the stars type pick if Jones-Drew holds out and gets injured and Pierce is similar, but my hand-cuff for Rice. Agree with TL that I had to fight back adding Turbin with my last pick.
WR - R. White (7), Britt (11), S. Rice (11), Collie (4), Blackmon (6) and Hartline (7) (C+) Well, I almost always go heavy at WR with our scoring rules and try to identify less risky players, but this group came from the opposite approach. It is definitely a risk laden bunch. I, along with the rest of the planet love the talents of Julio Jones and expect that Roddy's targets will finally decrease in 2012, but taken as WR8 and after both Jones and Green, seemed like a great constant at WR #1. He has been the leader in targets over the past two years and will still have plenty of chances. After getting him, I seemed to always go for the "upside" pick. Britt coming off knee surgery seemed a nice pick at WR21. Really wanted Colston who TL nabbed one pick before. I see Colston as top ten candidate. Was planning to take another WR, but when Maclin and V. Jackson were picked decided to get Martin. Got Rice at WR34 and also considered Holmes but went with Rice, who needs to be healthy to justify this pick. I think that Collie is an excellent upside option at WR54, but he is the third injury guy in a row with his concussion history. Not good to collect so many of those. Followed him up with Blackmon at WR55, who could be great at that spot, but have to hope that the Jaguars QB play vastly improves. Hartline is one of those deep target guys that could explode and give me scores in two or three weeks. Too much injury recovery and risk here for this group to be ranked above eighth or ninth in the league.
TE - Gresham (8) and Keller (9) (B-) Would have taken Hernandez at 3.3 instead of White, but knew that the Stinkin Ref was going to take him. After he disappeared thought that it would be better to wait and try to get these two much later. I think that both of them ourplay their ADP. I got them here at TE14 and TE15. Gresham finished TE13 a year ago and missed two games. I think that Cincinnati will pass more and better this year and he could finish top ten. Keller has finished TE9 two years in a row and is the best receiver that the Jets have. I really like the value of Keller in 2012.
DST - Eagles (7) and Seahawks (11) - Eagles disappointed last year, but have a lot of players and the Seahawks should be ok as #2
PK - Kaeding (7) - I like Kaeding as I had few players with a week 7 bye and the Chargers have a reasonably good offense.
Please guys, take some time and critique. I concur with Grouse that this league is the one I look forward to as kicking off the season and I enjoy not only drafting against y'all, but also following along as the season plays out. Outside of the risk at my WRs I really like this squad. I have been able to produce top points in this league a couple of years, but never have been able to produce in the playoffs. Maybe this team gives me another opportunity.
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Team Legacy
Footballguy
Wow, 4 tight ends, 1 defense and 1 kicker. Going only one kicker isn't terrible, although I wouldnt advise it in this format, but I have done it before so I won't beat you up too bad. 1 defense? Fine too, you also IMO got a good undervalued one apparently. Devoting a full 4 roster spots to a position that you can only start 1 every week though IMO is radical. Thats 22% of your roster for 11% of your lineup. Having said all that, I absolutely love your QB combo, your RB 4some IMO is excellent and the receivers if Dez avoids trouble have the makings of the best in the league through 4. Because of these high grades I give your draft, I can "understand" your desire to fire away at the tight end position, however I still think that the points you're losing at PK and DST may end up costing you wins in this format where no free agency is allowed. Funny enough, of the teams I've looked at, this is still a potential playoff team to me. Great job and can't wait to see if this strategy of TEs and 1k 1d pay off!Gentlemen, just want to thank you all for getting this league together again. I love the competition against you guys, and I also love the draft it & leave it format. It's the only one I do quite like this and I look forward to it each season.I failed to offer up any commentary on my team last season, so in an effort to do a bit better this year, I'll put some pen to digital paper now.To be honest, I saw my 13th pick round position and right from the get-go was not too happy about it. But the one silver lining is that I really enjoy having book-end picks, it really gives you an opportunity to muscle and shape your draft the way you want it. I tried to use that to my advantage as best I could.Here is my complete team with bye weeks; some brief positional commentary to follow...QB - Eli Manning (11), Tim Tebow (9)Perhaps I'm one of the few people who are bullish on Tebow this year. IMO, he landed in the ideal spot with the Jets. Rex Ryan must have watched how the Broncos were winning their games with Tebow, and while most fans were hating it, he was probably salivating. Ball on the ground football, few mistakes, grind it out, keep the score close, let the defense do their job, and win the game in the 4th quarter. If that's not Rex Ryan football, I don't know what is. With Eli Manning sporting a late week 11 bye, I felt this gave Tebow ample time to entrench himself if not as the starter, at least a solid fantasy producer. People think Tebow will be marginalized to a few gadget plays per game, I think the opposite. I think Sanchez is the one who will see less and less of the field as the season progresses. I'm happy rolling with these guys. I almost considered adding Matt Flynn as well, but opted for a 4th TE instead. Manning should be good enough most weeks, and if Tebow does what Tebow is capable of, then I should be golden.RB - Darren McFadden (5), Peyton Hillis (7), Benjarvus Green-Ellis (8), Jahvid Best (5)I'll come clean straight away and tell you that I'm not a huge McFadden fan. Talented yes, but made of glass. In fact, I could see just about all of these RBs having health issues at some point during the season. But I could also see this unit performing very well most weeks because each guy has a significant and defined roll to play on their respective teams. It's a good collective. McFadden is the bell cow, Hillis is the touchdown vulture, Green-Ellis is the volume guy and Best is the homerun hitter. But if McFadden & Best both go down with significant ailments at the same time, all bets are off. And let's be honest, that could easily happen.WR - Andre Johnson (8), Percy Harvin (11), Dez Bryant (5), Nate Washington (11), Steve Breaston (7), Michael Floyd (10)I'm quite happy with how this unit came together. In a best-ball format, I can see this unit collectively giving me 3 quality options most weeks. Obviously the one caveat is Andre being able to keep his hamstrings in his pants. If he goes down for any length of time, it will take a minor miracle to keep this group ultra competitive. Fingers crossed.TE - Kellen Winslow (11), John Carlson (11), Kellen Davis (6), Lance Kendricks (9)It's tempting especially given our scoring format to grab an elite TE early. I resisted numerous times and made a decision early in the draft to grab value elsewhere and instead opt for a volume approach at TE later in the draft. I'm not going to wax poetic about any of these guys. Each has some upside, and each could equally fall flat on their face. At least I have 4 of them. I've never lost a league because of my TE, and I suspect that will be the case again. It's not sexy, but it should work.PK - Dan Carpenter (7)DST - New York Jets (9)This is where things get mildly controversial. Again, this was a decision made early in the draft, in part from past experience in this format, and in part due to necessity to jive with other strategic ideas about how this team would be assembled. It's a gamble to fly solo at these positions, but I consciously chose options here that fell on bye weeks that were the least taxing on my team. I have noticed over the years that game margins in this format tend to not be as close as formats where you have more control over the roster on a week to week basis. I'm gambling that in week 7 & 9, the margin in my game won't be small enough that either Carpenter or the Jets absence would've made the difference. I hope I'm right.Overall, I think this is one of the more competitive teams I've drafted in recent REUNION memory. I've languished in middle-of-the-pack finishes since winning the inaugural SSLIV REUNION league many moons ago. I hope the injury gods are with me this year and this team can at least make a title challenging run. One can hope
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Team Legacy
Footballguy
Dude, you got Matt Stafford! Give yourself an A bro! Why did you grab a 5th RB with that combo at the top? Rice Martin Redman and anybody should suffice. You obviously are all in on Martin otherwise you wouldn't take him that high, If I was deadset against a 2nd kicker, I would have used the extra kicker spot on a 3rd TE perhaps, not RB5. Having said that, I LOVE your wideouts! To me, you absolutely nailed it through WR6! A+ at the position in my book. C+ ?? Smokin what/?? Gresham and Keller are the perfect combo type that I look for in these drafts when I miss the big name TE. Again, another playoff team is chiming in with their roster. Great job, excellent draft.. Now... where's all the bad teams at??? lol...team rzrback77
QB - Stafford (5) and Cassel (7) (B-) Had somewhat hesitatingly decided to go late on QB for this league, primarily due to draft slot. With 14 teams, it is more important to get one of the top options though and when Stafford was still there at pick 26, I just could not say no. Thought several times about adding a solid #2, but could not pull the trigger and decided to go cheap with Cassel, who although on a team with a run focus should be the guy all year unless injured. Top five candidate combined with low second tier, with injury factor on Stafford.
RB - Rice (8), Martin (5), Redman (4), Jennings (6) and Pierce (8)(A-) Went stud RB with the third draft slot. after that all of these selections were simply what I saw as value picks where they were taken. Martin was the 21st RB and grabbed a whole round after Wells at RB20. Similaely Redman went as RB 28 and almost a round after Stewart at RB26. Jennings is a reach for the stars type pick if Jones-Drew holds out and gets injured and Pierce is similar, but my hand-cuff for Rice. Agree with TL that I had to fight back adding Turbin with my last pick.
WR - R. White (7), Britt (11), S. Rice (11), Collie (4), Blackmon (6) and Hartline (7) (C+) Well, I almost always go heavy at WR with our scoring rules and try to identify less risky players, but this group came from the opposite approach. It is definitely a risk laden bunch. I, along with the rest of the planet love the talents of Julio Jones and expect that Roddy's targets will finally decrease in 2012, but taken as WR8 and after both Jones and Green, seemed like a great constant at WR #1. He has been the leader in targets over the past two years and will still have plenty of chances. After getting him, I seemed to always go for the "upside" pick. Britt coming off knee surgery seemed a nice pick at WR21. Really wanted Colston who TL nabbed one pick before. I see Colston as top ten candidate. Was planning to take another WR, but when Maclin and V. Jackson were picked decided to get Martin. Got Rice at WR34 and also considered Holmes but went with Rice, who needs to be healthy to justify this pick. I think that Collie is an excellent upside option at WR54, but he is the third injury guy in a row with his concussion history. Not good to collect so many of those. Followed him up with Blackmon at WR55, who could be great at that spot, but have to hope that the Jaguars QB play vastly improves. Hartline is one of those deep target guys that could explode and give me scores in two or three weeks. Too much injury recovery and risk here for this group to be ranked above eighth or ninth in the league.
TE - Gresham (8) and Keller (9) (B-) Would have taken Hernandez at 3.3 instead of White, but knew that the Stinkin Ref was going to take him. After he disappeared thought that it would be better to wait and try to get these two much later. I think that both of them ourplay their ADP. I got them here at TE14 and TE15. Gresham finished TE13 a year ago and missed two games. I think that Cincinnati will pass more and better this year and he could finish top ten. Keller has finished TE9 two years in a row and is the best receiver that the Jets have. I really like the value of Keller in 2012.
DST - Eagles (7) and Seahawks (11) - Eagles disappointed last year, but have a lot of players and the Seahawks should be ok as #2
PK - Kaeding (7) - I like Kaeding as I had few players with a week 7 bye and the Chargers have a reasonably good offense.
Please guys, take some time and critique. I concur with Grouse that this league is the one I look forward to as kicking off the season and I enjoy not only drafting against y'all, but also following along as the season plays out. Outside of the risk at my WRs I really like this squad. I have been able to produce top points in this league a couple of years, but never have been able to produce in the playoffs. Maybe this team gives me another opportunity.
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Captain Hook
Footballguy
QB - agree to a point with TL because of Stafford but A- WR - again agree that C+ is too low but it is NOT an A group at all B for sure, maybe B+ although Britt is scary, Rice is next to nada IMO and White will lose receptions/touchdowns to Julio this year although still a low WR1team rzrback77
QB - Stafford (5) and Cassel (7) (B-) Had somewhat hesitatingly decided to go late on QB for this league, primarily due to draft slot. With 14 teams, it is more important to get one of the top options though and when Stafford was still there at pick 26, I just could not say no. Thought several times about adding a solid #2, but could not pull the trigger and decided to go cheap with Cassel, who although on a team with a run focus should be the guy all year unless injured. Top five candidate combined with low second tier, with injury factor on Stafford.
RB - Rice (8), Martin (5), Redman (4), Jennings (6) and Pierce (8)(A-) Went stud RB with the third draft slot. after that all of these selections were simply what I saw as value picks where they were taken. Martin was the 21st RB and grabbed a whole round after Wells at RB20. Similaely Redman went as RB 28 and almost a round after Stewart at RB26. Jennings is a reach for the stars type pick if Jones-Drew holds out and gets injured and Pierce is similar, but my hand-cuff for Rice. Agree with TL that I had to fight back adding Turbin with my last pick.
WR - R. White (7), Britt (11), S. Rice (11), Collie (4), Blackmon (6) and Hartline (7) (C+) Well, I almost always go heavy at WR with our scoring rules and try to identify less risky players, but this group came from the opposite approach. It is definitely a risk laden bunch. I, along with the rest of the planet love the talents of Julio Jones and expect that Roddy's targets will finally decrease in 2012, but taken as WR8 and after both Jones and Green, seemed like a great constant at WR #1. He has been the leader in targets over the past two years and will still have plenty of chances. After getting him, I seemed to always go for the "upside" pick. Britt coming off knee surgery seemed a nice pick at WR21. Really wanted Colston who TL nabbed one pick before. I see Colston as top ten candidate. Was planning to take another WR, but when Maclin and V. Jackson were picked decided to get Martin. Got Rice at WR34 and also considered Holmes but went with Rice, who needs to be healthy to justify this pick. I think that Collie is an excellent upside option at WR54, but he is the third injury guy in a row with his concussion history. Not good to collect so many of those. Followed him up with Blackmon at WR55, who could be great at that spot, but have to hope that the Jaguars QB play vastly improves. Hartline is one of those deep target guys that could explode and give me scores in two or three weeks. Too much injury recovery and risk here for this group to be ranked above eighth or ninth in the league.
TE - Gresham (8) and Keller (9) (B-) Would have taken Hernandez at 3.3 instead of White, but knew that the Stinkin Ref was going to take him. After he disappeared thought that it would be better to wait and try to get these two much later. I think that both of them ourplay their ADP. I got them here at TE14 and TE15. Gresham finished TE13 a year ago and missed two games. I think that Cincinnati will pass more and better this year and he could finish top ten. Keller has finished TE9 two years in a row and is the best receiver that the Jets have. I really like the value of Keller in 2012.
DST - Eagles (7) and Seahawks (11) - Eagles disappointed last year, but have a lot of players and the Seahawks should be ok as #2
PK - Kaeding (7) - I like Kaeding as I had few players with a week 7 bye and the Chargers have a reasonably good offense.
Please guys, take some time and critique. I concur with Grouse that this league is the one I look forward to as kicking off the season and I enjoy not only drafting against y'all, but also following along as the season plays out. Outside of the risk at my WRs I really like this squad. I have been able to produce top points in this league a couple of years, but never have been able to produce in the playoffs. Maybe this team gives me another opportunity.
Kaeding? there are rumors in San Diego he might lose his job - another reason for having two kickers like injury threat
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Sinrman
Footballguy
Tony Romo QB
Mark Sanchez QB
I didn't snag one of the top QBs, but I like Romo for where I got him. Good value. Sanchez... meh. Not a fan, but for where I got him, I can live with him being my #2. I've had him in the past and he'll give me a few excellent weeks to help with Romo's bye or weeks that Romo sucks it up. B
Michael Turner RB
Michael Bush RB
Pierre Thomas RB
LeGarrette Blount RB
Strong WRs means I will be weak somewhere else, and this is it. Turner will lose some touches, but he's still a beast and will get 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs easily this year. The others are either RB2 or RB1a or 1b on their respective teams, and I think they will each produce. Maybe not like a top back, but they are all primed to fill in if an injury comes about, or if the offense looks to use two backs or keep a rotation. C+ (potential to fall to a C or even up into B or B- range if they do more than expected)
Randy Moss WR
Plaxico Burress WR
Larry Fitzgerald WR
Wes Welker WR
Mario Manningham WR
Hakeem Nicks WR
The strength of my team, but also the riskiest. A trio of Fitz, Welker, and Nicks should be lethal each week....assuming they all stay healthy. I'm not sweating Nicks' injury. There's still plenty of time between the actual injury and Week 1. After those three, I'm taking a lot of risk. I am buying into the Moss hype, probably stupidly. But the way I see it and from what I'm hearing, being out last year and having one last chance to prove himself has a hungry Randy ready to prove everyone wrong. With other weapons around, teams won't always be able to double team him, which also helps Manningham. I think it mostly revolves around Alex Smith and whether he can improve more. With the weapons Smith has now, there is no excuse. Finally, Burress still isn't signed, so I'm taking a risk, but it was a late round risk, and I am confident he will find a team and produce well. Personally, I really wish Detroit would give him a shot. I'm not a Burleson fan. A- (potential to fall into B-range or up to A+ if most pan out)
Brandon Pettigrew TE
Ed Dickson TE
Having missed out on the top TEs I looked to the next tier and maybe I'm a little biased, being a Lions fan, but I like Pettigrew a good bit. As defenses key more on Calvin, it
will open up more lanes for Pettigrew. Dickson is a decent backup, but is contending with Pitta for touches. B-
Rob Bironas K
Dan Bailey K
Chicago Bears Def/ST
Kansas City Chiefs DEF/ST
Two decent kickers, and two decent DEF/ST. Check and check. B
Mark Sanchez QB
I didn't snag one of the top QBs, but I like Romo for where I got him. Good value. Sanchez... meh. Not a fan, but for where I got him, I can live with him being my #2. I've had him in the past and he'll give me a few excellent weeks to help with Romo's bye or weeks that Romo sucks it up. B
Michael Turner RB
Michael Bush RB
Pierre Thomas RB
LeGarrette Blount RB
Strong WRs means I will be weak somewhere else, and this is it. Turner will lose some touches, but he's still a beast and will get 1000+ yards and 8+ TDs easily this year. The others are either RB2 or RB1a or 1b on their respective teams, and I think they will each produce. Maybe not like a top back, but they are all primed to fill in if an injury comes about, or if the offense looks to use two backs or keep a rotation. C+ (potential to fall to a C or even up into B or B- range if they do more than expected)
Randy Moss WR
Plaxico Burress WR
Larry Fitzgerald WR
Wes Welker WR
Mario Manningham WR
Hakeem Nicks WR
The strength of my team, but also the riskiest. A trio of Fitz, Welker, and Nicks should be lethal each week....assuming they all stay healthy. I'm not sweating Nicks' injury. There's still plenty of time between the actual injury and Week 1. After those three, I'm taking a lot of risk. I am buying into the Moss hype, probably stupidly. But the way I see it and from what I'm hearing, being out last year and having one last chance to prove himself has a hungry Randy ready to prove everyone wrong. With other weapons around, teams won't always be able to double team him, which also helps Manningham. I think it mostly revolves around Alex Smith and whether he can improve more. With the weapons Smith has now, there is no excuse. Finally, Burress still isn't signed, so I'm taking a risk, but it was a late round risk, and I am confident he will find a team and produce well. Personally, I really wish Detroit would give him a shot. I'm not a Burleson fan. A- (potential to fall into B-range or up to A+ if most pan out)
Brandon Pettigrew TE
Ed Dickson TE
Having missed out on the top TEs I looked to the next tier and maybe I'm a little biased, being a Lions fan, but I like Pettigrew a good bit. As defenses key more on Calvin, it
will open up more lanes for Pettigrew. Dickson is a decent backup, but is contending with Pitta for touches. B-
Rob Bironas K
Dan Bailey K
Chicago Bears Def/ST
Kansas City Chiefs DEF/ST
Two decent kickers, and two decent DEF/ST. Check and check. B
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
Second half with comments:
10.13 Toby Gerhart RB MIN 11
While the timer may not show it, this is the pick I feel I spent the most time debating on. Kind of a cross roads point in the draft for me with the way things had shaken down. I just spent my last 3 picks on RB and already had 4 on board. If I take a 5th then I am only taking 5 WR‘s, or 1 PK. WR was going to be the pick here as I was targeting Cobb and was maybe thinking about following that up with James Jones later to have a GB thing going in two of my 6 WR positions and hoping to capitalize on their weeks where they get a piece of the Rodgers pie. Cobb went with the first pick of the 10th round so that kind of nixed that. My focus then switched to Austin Collie. But razor snipes again right before me. So that really switched my focus. Gerhart seemed like too much value to pass up here and really wasn’t expecting him to be available. There are some questions with my backs and I have already commented earlier about why I like him this year, so I pulled the trigger which obviously steered me toward the either 5 WR or 1 PK. Decided at this point that 1 PK was going to be the play. Also considered: Flacco or Blackmon here.
11.02 Joe Flacco QB BAL 8
Took a look at the QB’s that were left and knew if I wanted what I considered a decent one I would have to take one now as a few would go before the 12-13 turn. Thought about passing on a QB here with a stud in tow, but even studs have bye weeks and can lay some eggs. Flacco thinks he is the best QB in the league so now I have the best QB and the guy who thinks he is the best QB. Sweet!
12.13 Vincent Brown WR SD 7
Brown is kind of in the Maclin/Decker boat for me of guys that I expect to have bigger years than most other people. I like the way he goes and gets the ball. I think we may be talking about him differently this time next year and I am hoping to be a year ahead of the pack. I planned on getting Brown going into this draft and this seemed like the time to get him. Also considered: Robinson here but I wanted Brown more and could live with not getting Robinson.
13.02 Laurent Robinson WR JAC 6
Not sexy but should catch some balls. Some may consider him the WR1 in JAC so it’s kind of nice to get one this late. Probably more of a 1A/B with Blackmon. JAC QB situation is obviously a concern, but they will have to throw the ball at some point.
14.13 Devery Henderson WR NOS 6
Probably like this pick more than most. Listed as WR2 right now. Maybe a 3, and will have to outplay Arrington. But should see the field a ton in a pass first high octane offense. Solid player in a best ball format.
15.02 Scott Chandler TE BUF 8
I like his size and he is a good compliment to Hernandez in this best ball format. Red zone activity could be even better this year.
16.13 Connor Barth PK TB 5
17.02 Oakland Raiders DST 5
18.13 Tennessee Titans DST 11
Not much to see here other than why I took Barth over some other guys. 26 for 28 last year is the main reason and I expect TB offense to improve. One PK may cost me, we’ll see.
10.13 Toby Gerhart RB MIN 11
While the timer may not show it, this is the pick I feel I spent the most time debating on. Kind of a cross roads point in the draft for me with the way things had shaken down. I just spent my last 3 picks on RB and already had 4 on board. If I take a 5th then I am only taking 5 WR‘s, or 1 PK. WR was going to be the pick here as I was targeting Cobb and was maybe thinking about following that up with James Jones later to have a GB thing going in two of my 6 WR positions and hoping to capitalize on their weeks where they get a piece of the Rodgers pie. Cobb went with the first pick of the 10th round so that kind of nixed that. My focus then switched to Austin Collie. But razor snipes again right before me. So that really switched my focus. Gerhart seemed like too much value to pass up here and really wasn’t expecting him to be available. There are some questions with my backs and I have already commented earlier about why I like him this year, so I pulled the trigger which obviously steered me toward the either 5 WR or 1 PK. Decided at this point that 1 PK was going to be the play. Also considered: Flacco or Blackmon here.
11.02 Joe Flacco QB BAL 8
Took a look at the QB’s that were left and knew if I wanted what I considered a decent one I would have to take one now as a few would go before the 12-13 turn. Thought about passing on a QB here with a stud in tow, but even studs have bye weeks and can lay some eggs. Flacco thinks he is the best QB in the league so now I have the best QB and the guy who thinks he is the best QB. Sweet!
12.13 Vincent Brown WR SD 7
Brown is kind of in the Maclin/Decker boat for me of guys that I expect to have bigger years than most other people. I like the way he goes and gets the ball. I think we may be talking about him differently this time next year and I am hoping to be a year ahead of the pack. I planned on getting Brown going into this draft and this seemed like the time to get him. Also considered: Robinson here but I wanted Brown more and could live with not getting Robinson.
13.02 Laurent Robinson WR JAC 6
Not sexy but should catch some balls. Some may consider him the WR1 in JAC so it’s kind of nice to get one this late. Probably more of a 1A/B with Blackmon. JAC QB situation is obviously a concern, but they will have to throw the ball at some point.
14.13 Devery Henderson WR NOS 6
Probably like this pick more than most. Listed as WR2 right now. Maybe a 3, and will have to outplay Arrington. But should see the field a ton in a pass first high octane offense. Solid player in a best ball format.
15.02 Scott Chandler TE BUF 8
I like his size and he is a good compliment to Hernandez in this best ball format. Red zone activity could be even better this year.
16.13 Connor Barth PK TB 5
17.02 Oakland Raiders DST 5
18.13 Tennessee Titans DST 11
Not much to see here other than why I took Barth over some other guys. 26 for 28 last year is the main reason and I expect TB offense to improve. One PK may cost me, we’ll see.
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Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
Stinkin Ref:
1.02 Aaron Rodgers QB1 GB 10
11.02 Joe Flacco QB BAL 8
Sometimes we forget about the true impact of the elite players. Will need Rodgers to continue to perform at an elite level to make up the points I lose weekly at other positions by using my first pick on him. Looking back I like getting Flacco in the 11th.
2.13 Steven Jackson RB13 STL 9
7.02 James Starks RB29 GB 10
8.13 Ben Tate RB41 HOU 8
9.02 Ronnie Hillman RB42 DEN 7
10.13 Toby Gerhart RB MIN 11
Not gonna scare anybody but 4 guys who have shown they can play in this league and a guy who I think plays more than people think in Hillman. All with different bye weeks so I am not too concerned about not being able to post 2 decent scores here. Two starters, two high end backups, and the potential SOD (yep I said it).
4.13 Jeremy Maclin WR22 PHI 7
5.02 Eric Decker WR25 DEN 7
6.13 Denarius Moore WR32 OAK 5
12.13 Vincent Brown WR SD 7
13.02 Laurent Robinson WR JAC 6
14.13 Devery Henderson WR NOS 6
Got 3 guys I was targeting and while this group won’t grade out well going into the season, I can see them being slightly above average to above average as the season unfolds. I was well aware of the bye week issues as I was drafting this group but decided I wanted the player and would roll the dice for two weeks (6-7) when I would only have 4 and then 3 to choose from. In my mind, the top 3 could actually out produce the guys that are maybe listed as WR1’s ahead of them.
3.02 Aaron Hernandez TE4 NE 9
15.02 Scott Chandler TE BUF 8
Hernandez is a beast in this format and hopefully Chandler’s role increases a little. I think Fitz likes him and his size in the red zone.
16.13 Connor Barth PK TB 5
17.02 Oakland Raiders DST 5
18.13 Tennessee Titans DST 11
Some risk with one PK and defenses could be a crap shoot but at least I have two to choose from.
Overall: I got sniped a few times which changed the look. Maclin and Decker need to prove me right and Hillman could be the wild card. But otherwise, this wasn’t my best work. I really reached for players I liked instead of playing it safe. Things like Maclin over VJax and SJohnson need to pay off. Hernandez staying a top 5 non RB in this format will be big as well. What I do like is that I have some solid guys, and then some potentially huge back up players mixed in. And even some of my guys that are considered “backups” will still produce even without an injury or something to the guy in front of them. Not my best effort, you guys are pretty tough, but I welcome the challenge and really appreciate the opportunity to fill in here and give it a go. Good luck.
1.02 Aaron Rodgers QB1 GB 10
11.02 Joe Flacco QB BAL 8
Sometimes we forget about the true impact of the elite players. Will need Rodgers to continue to perform at an elite level to make up the points I lose weekly at other positions by using my first pick on him. Looking back I like getting Flacco in the 11th.
2.13 Steven Jackson RB13 STL 9
7.02 James Starks RB29 GB 10
8.13 Ben Tate RB41 HOU 8
9.02 Ronnie Hillman RB42 DEN 7
10.13 Toby Gerhart RB MIN 11
Not gonna scare anybody but 4 guys who have shown they can play in this league and a guy who I think plays more than people think in Hillman. All with different bye weeks so I am not too concerned about not being able to post 2 decent scores here. Two starters, two high end backups, and the potential SOD (yep I said it).
4.13 Jeremy Maclin WR22 PHI 7
5.02 Eric Decker WR25 DEN 7
6.13 Denarius Moore WR32 OAK 5
12.13 Vincent Brown WR SD 7
13.02 Laurent Robinson WR JAC 6
14.13 Devery Henderson WR NOS 6
Got 3 guys I was targeting and while this group won’t grade out well going into the season, I can see them being slightly above average to above average as the season unfolds. I was well aware of the bye week issues as I was drafting this group but decided I wanted the player and would roll the dice for two weeks (6-7) when I would only have 4 and then 3 to choose from. In my mind, the top 3 could actually out produce the guys that are maybe listed as WR1’s ahead of them.
3.02 Aaron Hernandez TE4 NE 9
15.02 Scott Chandler TE BUF 8
Hernandez is a beast in this format and hopefully Chandler’s role increases a little. I think Fitz likes him and his size in the red zone.
16.13 Connor Barth PK TB 5
17.02 Oakland Raiders DST 5
18.13 Tennessee Titans DST 11
Some risk with one PK and defenses could be a crap shoot but at least I have two to choose from.
Overall: I got sniped a few times which changed the look. Maclin and Decker need to prove me right and Hillman could be the wild card. But otherwise, this wasn’t my best work. I really reached for players I liked instead of playing it safe. Things like Maclin over VJax and SJohnson need to pay off. Hernandez staying a top 5 non RB in this format will be big as well. What I do like is that I have some solid guys, and then some potentially huge back up players mixed in. And even some of my guys that are considered “backups” will still produce even without an injury or something to the guy in front of them. Not my best effort, you guys are pretty tough, but I welcome the challenge and really appreciate the opportunity to fill in here and give it a go. Good luck.
OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
Team Old Milwaukee
QB: Michael Vick(7) and Carson Palmer(5). I am a little high on all Eagle’s players this year. I think they will be playing with a chip on their shoulders, and I expect to see them in the NFC championship game. With Vick as QB1, I was forced to get a higher end QB2. Grade: B
RB: Matt Forte(6) Shonn Greene(9) Daniel Thomas(7) Tim Hightower(10) Danny Woodhead(9) Two RB2’s and three RB’s to form a committee for the bye weeks and occasional bad games. Love Timmy Hightower in the 12th, he will be the man in DC. Grade C
WR: Calvin Johnson(5) Torrey Smith(8)Santonio Holmes(9)Nate Burleson(5)Rueben Randle(11)Steve Smith(9) The best WR in the league, and a up and coming WR1
in the 6th round. After that it blows. My season really depends upon a Falco to Smith connection. Grade C
TE: Jason Witten(5)Greg Olsen(6) Sorry TL but this is the combo to outproduce any team that doesn't have Gronk or Graham. Grade B
D/ST Ravens(8)Giants(11) Two producers Grade A
K: Lindell SOP Grade D
As always, this is one of the best group of competitors there is, and I fully enjoyed the experience. (I had to put a sticky note on the monitor reminding me that there are no guppy’s) and curse each one of you for snipping me multiple times.
Thanks to the Captin and TL for continuing this fine tradition. I look forward to getting out of the cellar and back to the championship game, and perhaps even winning one of these.
Comments and questions always welcomed.
Cheers!
QB: Michael Vick(7) and Carson Palmer(5). I am a little high on all Eagle’s players this year. I think they will be playing with a chip on their shoulders, and I expect to see them in the NFC championship game. With Vick as QB1, I was forced to get a higher end QB2. Grade: B
RB: Matt Forte(6) Shonn Greene(9) Daniel Thomas(7) Tim Hightower(10) Danny Woodhead(9) Two RB2’s and three RB’s to form a committee for the bye weeks and occasional bad games. Love Timmy Hightower in the 12th, he will be the man in DC. Grade C
WR: Calvin Johnson(5) Torrey Smith(8)Santonio Holmes(9)Nate Burleson(5)Rueben Randle(11)Steve Smith(9) The best WR in the league, and a up and coming WR1
in the 6th round. After that it blows. My season really depends upon a Falco to Smith connection. Grade C
TE: Jason Witten(5)Greg Olsen(6) Sorry TL but this is the combo to outproduce any team that doesn't have Gronk or Graham. Grade B
D/ST Ravens(8)Giants(11) Two producers Grade A
K: Lindell SOP Grade D
As always, this is one of the best group of competitors there is, and I fully enjoyed the experience. (I had to put a sticky note on the monitor reminding me that there are no guppy’s) and curse each one of you for snipping me multiple times.
Thanks to the Captin and TL for continuing this fine tradition. I look forward to getting out of the cellar and back to the championship game, and perhaps even winning one of these.
Comments and questions always welcomed.
Cheers!
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rzrback77
Footballguy
I really like your team. I am leery of Vick staying on the field, but really like the Palmer addition. Very good top RBs and WRs, but will definitely need the depth end to come through. Nice job!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Just like to thank everyone for allowing me to ride shotgun. Lot of fun and also a great way to gear up for my other drafts. You all did a fantastic job of running a slow draft at a pretty decent pace.
Thanks
Thanks
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
It might be feel harsh to call it a bad team, but not a good team might be easier
Ben Roethlisberger (4)
Sam Bradford (9)
Waited on QB. This pair should keep me in the middle. Didn't seem like this league had a lot of love for them as they were drafted toward the end of QB1s and QB2s.
C
Frank Gore (9)
Reggie Bush (7)
Donald Brown (4)
Kevin Smith (5)
Delone Carter (4)
Cobbled RB2s with boo boo potential. RB does run out fast. I would be happy if two high RB2 #s could come out of this group each week. Would really like a K Smith revival to RB 1 #s.
D+
Julio Jones (7)
Demaryius Thomas (7)
Anquan Boldin (8)
Mike Williams TB (5)
Jerome Simpson (11)
Danny Amendola (9)
JJ & Thomas have a high potential with TD production. I need insane #s from them. Boldin and Williams TB make an blah WR 3. Simpson and Amendola could really help out. May be just enough upside in this group to pull me through.
B+
Jimmy Graham (6)
Dennis Pitta (8)
Graham has one less mouth to compete with for targets and thinks he is getting better. He has the chance to be the lights out equalizer I need to compete. Pitta likely won't matter besides bye week fill. An injury to Graham would likely kill my team.
A
Stephen Gostkowski (9)
New England DST (9)
San Diego DST (7)
Quality 1 kicker. DST Sched not too bad.
An average effort overall. No punch at QB or RB. Good but probably not enough from WR TE dominate. One kicker injury risk. I don't think I overcame a top RB1 deficiency. Nice drafting with yall.
Ben Roethlisberger (4)
Sam Bradford (9)
Waited on QB. This pair should keep me in the middle. Didn't seem like this league had a lot of love for them as they were drafted toward the end of QB1s and QB2s.
C
Frank Gore (9)
Reggie Bush (7)
Donald Brown (4)
Kevin Smith (5)
Delone Carter (4)
Cobbled RB2s with boo boo potential. RB does run out fast. I would be happy if two high RB2 #s could come out of this group each week. Would really like a K Smith revival to RB 1 #s.
D+
Julio Jones (7)
Demaryius Thomas (7)
Anquan Boldin (8)
Mike Williams TB (5)
Jerome Simpson (11)
Danny Amendola (9)
JJ & Thomas have a high potential with TD production. I need insane #s from them. Boldin and Williams TB make an blah WR 3. Simpson and Amendola could really help out. May be just enough upside in this group to pull me through.
B+
Jimmy Graham (6)
Dennis Pitta (8)
Graham has one less mouth to compete with for targets and thinks he is getting better. He has the chance to be the lights out equalizer I need to compete. Pitta likely won't matter besides bye week fill. An injury to Graham would likely kill my team.
A
Stephen Gostkowski (9)
New England DST (9)
San Diego DST (7)
Quality 1 kicker. DST Sched not too bad.
An average effort overall. No punch at QB or RB. Good but probably not enough from WR TE dominate. One kicker injury risk. I don't think I overcame a top RB1 deficiency. Nice drafting with yall.
ShadowMaster
Footballguy
Shadowmaster Self Analysis
Hard to complain about the top spot, but it did trash the plan I had in mind going in. I think you need to grab those elite RBs when you can, but it locks you out of the top QB and TE options. My main goal was to try and grab value and not reach on needs. I think I did a fair job of executing that plan, but I certainly took more risk than usual and I certainly made a few wild picks.
QB - R.Fitzpatrick@7.01, RG3@8.14
If I learned anything with this draft it is that I'm higher on the Buffalo pass O than most this year (maybe anyone). Fitz and Gailey made great strides with the Buffalo O last year. Looking forward to year 3 with an actual off season. Buffalo runs more WR3+ than anyone and I see Fitz as under-rated this year. He was a small reach at 7.01, but as the last to take a QB I had to make my move. RG3 was well below ADP and should be a fun pairing with some rushing points and garbage time passing yards.
RB - A.Foster@1.01, J.Charles@2.14, A.Green@15.01
A super stud and 2 guys coming off knee repair. Crazy? Maybe, but if Charles returns to form I have a great 1-2 punch. Green was well below ADP and seems as solid as any back in a committee this year, especially in that awesome GB O. LOTS of reception points here. So happy, I ran with only 3.
WR - AJ.Green@3.01, V.Jax@4.14, S.Johnson@5.01, M.Crabtree@9.01, D.Nelson@12.14, J.Gordon@17.01
I wanted to go strong at WR this year and I think I have a great top 3. All ball hawks and clear target leaders for their club. Crabtree was a solid WR1 in the 9th to start my bench. Smith scared me off the other SF receivers. Have I said I like the Buffalo pass O this year? Reached on Nelson because I didn't trust you guys. Would have taken Jones as well, but my bye week was already a wreck. Skipped on Jean for the same reason. Wanted 2 HR swings in the last 2 rounds and I think Gordon fits the bill as WR6. He should see targets for Cleveland as they play from behind. I think he'll win the WR2 job for the Browns, worse case WR3 and huge red-zone target.
TE - T.Gonzo@6.14, T.Moeaki@13.01, J.Casey@18.14
I posted earlier I was giddy to get Gonzo at the end of the 6th. Made passing on Hernandez at 2/3 feel like a good gamble. I like Moeaki's potentail when healthy. Another injury recovery gamble, but worse I blew the bye week coverage. Should have gone Clark or Kendricks. This dictated a HR cut a TE which came down to E.Moore or Casey. Stats show opportunity is the only thing keeping Casey down and if he gets Dressen's 40 targets (which no expert predicts) he'll be a fine Mr. Irrelivant selection.
PK - M.Crosby@14.14, R.Bullock@16.14
2 kickers on top scoring teams. Bullocks has competition, but I expect the rookie to win the battle.
TD - Pittsburgh@10.14, SanFran@11.01
If I knew everyone else would hold another pass I would have waited one more, but I was happy to get my home town boys and another top D in the 'Niners. Nothing too sweet disappeared that pass, with Ed Dickson and Tim Hightower stinging the most.
I'll just steal the quote from OM, who said it perfectly....
As always, this is one of the best group of competitors there is, and I fully enjoyed the experience. (I had to put a sticky note on the monitor reminding me that there are no guppy’s) and curse each one of you for snipping me multiple times.
Well, OK.... I didn't use a sticky note.....
It's way off my usual "safe and sound" path, but I think this team has great potential to come together and make a nice run for me.
As always, looking forward to watching it all play out with you guys over 2012.
Hard to complain about the top spot, but it did trash the plan I had in mind going in. I think you need to grab those elite RBs when you can, but it locks you out of the top QB and TE options. My main goal was to try and grab value and not reach on needs. I think I did a fair job of executing that plan, but I certainly took more risk than usual and I certainly made a few wild picks.
QB - R.Fitzpatrick@7.01, RG3@8.14
If I learned anything with this draft it is that I'm higher on the Buffalo pass O than most this year (maybe anyone). Fitz and Gailey made great strides with the Buffalo O last year. Looking forward to year 3 with an actual off season. Buffalo runs more WR3+ than anyone and I see Fitz as under-rated this year. He was a small reach at 7.01, but as the last to take a QB I had to make my move. RG3 was well below ADP and should be a fun pairing with some rushing points and garbage time passing yards.
RB - A.Foster@1.01, J.Charles@2.14, A.Green@15.01
A super stud and 2 guys coming off knee repair. Crazy? Maybe, but if Charles returns to form I have a great 1-2 punch. Green was well below ADP and seems as solid as any back in a committee this year, especially in that awesome GB O. LOTS of reception points here. So happy, I ran with only 3.
WR - AJ.Green@3.01, V.Jax@4.14, S.Johnson@5.01, M.Crabtree@9.01, D.Nelson@12.14, J.Gordon@17.01
I wanted to go strong at WR this year and I think I have a great top 3. All ball hawks and clear target leaders for their club. Crabtree was a solid WR1 in the 9th to start my bench. Smith scared me off the other SF receivers. Have I said I like the Buffalo pass O this year? Reached on Nelson because I didn't trust you guys. Would have taken Jones as well, but my bye week was already a wreck. Skipped on Jean for the same reason. Wanted 2 HR swings in the last 2 rounds and I think Gordon fits the bill as WR6. He should see targets for Cleveland as they play from behind. I think he'll win the WR2 job for the Browns, worse case WR3 and huge red-zone target.
TE - T.Gonzo@6.14, T.Moeaki@13.01, J.Casey@18.14
I posted earlier I was giddy to get Gonzo at the end of the 6th. Made passing on Hernandez at 2/3 feel like a good gamble. I like Moeaki's potentail when healthy. Another injury recovery gamble, but worse I blew the bye week coverage. Should have gone Clark or Kendricks. This dictated a HR cut a TE which came down to E.Moore or Casey. Stats show opportunity is the only thing keeping Casey down and if he gets Dressen's 40 targets (which no expert predicts) he'll be a fine Mr. Irrelivant selection.
PK - M.Crosby@14.14, R.Bullock@16.14
2 kickers on top scoring teams. Bullocks has competition, but I expect the rookie to win the battle.
TD - Pittsburgh@10.14, SanFran@11.01
If I knew everyone else would hold another pass I would have waited one more, but I was happy to get my home town boys and another top D in the 'Niners. Nothing too sweet disappeared that pass, with Ed Dickson and Tim Hightower stinging the most.
I'll just steal the quote from OM, who said it perfectly....
As always, this is one of the best group of competitors there is, and I fully enjoyed the experience. (I had to put a sticky note on the monitor reminding me that there are no guppy’s) and curse each one of you for snipping me multiple times.
Well, OK.... I didn't use a sticky note.....
It's way off my usual "safe and sound" path, but I think this team has great potential to come together and make a nice run for me.
As always, looking forward to watching it all play out with you guys over 2012.
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