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Is there holding if no flag is thrown?Liable does not = guilty. Try again.EDIT: Anyway enough of this derailment. You are wrong, you can be a rapist/drug dealer/murderer etc. w/o being convicted of it in court.He was found guilty in a civil suit so yes he is looked upon as a murderer.Yeah and OJ isn't a murderer either.
He's a more credible target.
The first incident was an absolute non-story. Just some crazy chick who gladly hopped into the sack with him, bragged about it after the fact, and then tried to get some money out of the whole ordeal. Pro athletes are targets for predatory women looking for a payday. Is Ben a sleazeball? Probably. That doesn't make him a rapist though. Barring some kind of extremely damning evidence, it will be his word against hers. He'll get the best lawyers money can buy and he'll walk with a slap on the wrist at most.
Just like cars in traffic.
I've been there. NOTHING there. Used to be the GA Insane asylum for decades. Now just a small GA college there, and not much else. Kind of like family cabins/country. I bet he was hunting for so 'tail.
Did you guys even follow the other story? No criminal charges were ever filed.Ben's attorney David Cornwell just released a document containing emails and IMs, which he says were sent between Andrea and her fake online boyfriend "Ben the Soldier."
Yeah, it's a real mystery why those two lookers aren't hooking up left and right.
Brady , the Mannings, Rivers,Ryan etc never seem to "run" into a crazy chick? Only Ben.
Brady - marriedEli - marriedPeyton - marriedRivers - marriedRyan - ?I don't doubt that Roethlisberger is a huge egomaniac and scumbag, but that doesn't make him a rapist. There are lots of desperate women who would love a piece of his paycheck. If he's out there "playing the field" and taking lots of different girls home, it's only a matter of time until he runs into a bad one.
I think he is and that is scary
I don't think he's a rapist. He's just not good at decision making in real life. And by not good at decision making I mean dumb as a stump.Brady - marriedEli - marriedPeyton - marriedRivers - marriedRyan - ?I don't doubt that Roethlisberger is a huge egomaniac and scumbag, but that doesn't make him a rapist. There are lots of desperate women who would love a piece of his paycheck. If he's out there "playing the field" and taking lots of different girls home, it's only a matter of time until he runs into a bad one.Brady , the Mannings, Rivers,Ryan etc never seem to "run" into a crazy chick? Only Ben.
I think he's porking everything that moves. And in this day and age, this is what you're going to get if you do that and you're famous.I don't think he's a rapist. He's just not good at decision making in real life. And by not good at decision making I mean dumb as a stump.Brady - marriedEli - marriedPeyton - marriedRivers - marriedRyan - ?I don't doubt that Roethlisberger is a huge egomaniac and scumbag, but that doesn't make him a rapist. There are lots of desperate women who would love a piece of his paycheck. If he's out there "playing the field" and taking lots of different girls home, it's only a matter of time until he runs into a bad one.
This.If he didn't figure out that his beer goggling days were over after the first incident, that pretty much proves he's about as knucklehead-y as they come.Your clubbing days are over Ben(should have been a year ago). Accept it.If he IS guilty of either allegation, then screw him. I will personally hire a sassy, elderly, black lady to point at a picture of Ben and shout "F@#@# THAT guy!!"
I would have guessed that.
Yeah, but the previous one I posted said he went into the women's bathroom. That was kind of weird. Maybe it started there, she went out, he followed her. Just guessing.
I don't know, he sounds like a giving sort of fella.
Brady's busy banging supermodels. The Mannings *HAVE* had incidents with women- the University of Tennessee paid Jamie Ann Naughright $300,000 and Peyton Manning reached an undisclosed settlement with her over a sexual harassment suit- it's just that nobody remembers it. Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers are both still pretty anonymous on a national scale.Anyway, I'm not familiar enough with the details of this new case to say one way or another what happened. But I do know that I'm not going to start making any half-cocked assumptions until I get some of those details, and I also know I've read enough of the first case that the only thing I'm holding against Ben is the fact that he didn't do a background check before engaging in consensual sex.Brady , the Mannings, Rivers,Ryan etc never seem to "run" into a crazy chick? Only Ben.
Different area code
Is that the reporter that get her face shoved into Manning's ### just before a lockerroom interview? I vaguely remember something like thatBrady's busy banging supermodels. The Mannings *HAVE* had incidents with women- the University of Tennessee paid Jamie Ann Naughright $300,000 and Peyton Manning reached an undisclosed settlement with her over a sexual harassment suit- it's just that nobody remembers it. Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers are both still pretty anonymous on a national scale.
since the yellow pages have gone out of vogue here in the digital ages one could maybe assume BB in tribute let his fingers do the talking
You can be concerned all you like but right now you can't do anything about it. Either he's guilty of doing something and he's going to get in trouble or he's the victim of a girl crying wolf.If he's guilty, he'll go to jail. My money is on Ben not doing it and he needs to be a little smarter in what and who he's doing in his off time.
Wrong. ESPN has already reported on it.
Whether he is a murderer or not has nothing to do with whether he was found guilty of murder or not. OJ was still a murderer when he was found not guilty.He was found guilty in a civil suit so yes he is looked upon as a murderer.Yeah and OJ isn't a murderer either.
If there are witnesses then he is pretty screwed
Witnesses work both ways. Ben was said to be out with a bunch of friends.
Yes, sexual assault can include something like grabbing a girl's butt. In fact, if an incident is being described as sexual assault rather than rape, it's probably something like groping or grabbing.
Unless he didn't do anything - or they corroborate that he didn't do anything.
how much coverage do you think they'll give it like they do for Tiger Woods?
Probably because there is a pretty huge difference between mooning someone and sexually assaulting someone.
Mooning? Funny, I've never heard of a type of mooning that involved shoving the victim's face into your ###. In fact, there is absolutely no difference between what Manning was accused of and sexually assaulting someone, although technically the victim never brought assault charges against Manning (she brought harassment charges against UT for allegedly fostering a culture where that behavior was acceptable, and defamation charges against Manning for allegedly lying about the incident in his book).I'm not saying that Manning did it, or didn't do it, I'm just saying that Peyton Manning has allegedly sexually assaulted a woman, too, same as Roofles.
Ben will either walk away scott free or he'll get more than a slap on the wrist. He'll only get the slap if he pleas to criminal charges. Ben's not going to do that. If it goes to trial and Ben gets convicted of sexual assault charges there's no way that district is going to want to look like a Bunch of ####### nationally. And that is a legal term.This was awesome...
... and true.
The article says she was treated at a hospital afterwards. If he did anything I think it was probably more than a butt grabbing.
Whether he is a murderer or not has nothing to do with whether he was found guilty of murder or not. OJ was still a murderer when he was found not guilty.He was found guilty in a civil suit so yes he is looked upon as a murderer.Yeah and OJ isn't a murderer either.
"Sounds like" does not equal "I accuse".
