Roy Williams is a slouch (1 Viewer)

[atcdav]

FBGs put out a link to ComcastSportsNet says Roy Williams is not in football shape. Surprise!! Williams has been a huge disappointment his entire career except that anomaly of a season under Martz. I am not really surprised the Bears went after him. They have a knack for not being able to pick talent. There was a glut of excellent free agent WRs this year, and the Bears go after him.......BIG SIGH!! Floyd, VJax, Holmes, Rice, Edwards, Clayton...the list is endless. Every year it gets easier to slam on the Duh Bears. Even Moss would have been a better choice and we would get the enjoyment of Moss eating Cutler for lunch with all his ineptitude. Maybe Owens will find his way to Chicago.

That being said, I am willing to say Barber was a great pick up, a classic example of the blind squirrel finding a nut occasionally.

 

[-jb-]

Don't sell him short. He's a tremendous slouch.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

But wait, didn't THE GENIUS refer to him as an 'elite receiver' just 2 weeks ago?

 

[cvnpoka]

poor johnny knox, gets dumped from his starting gig and maligned by the coaches for an out of shape underachiever.

 

[zamboni]

I'm keeping an eye on Earl Bennett. Has some chemistry with Cutler going back to their Vanderbilt days.

 

[Late225]

I wouldn't sell this quickly over a short little blurb.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

WR1-Hester

WR2-Roy

WR3-Bennett

WR4-Knox

Why do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

 

[Debeucci]

I'm keeping an eye on Earl Bennett. Has some chemistry with Cutler going back to their Vanderbilt days.

Pfft...earl's had chemistry now for 2 years. Why's he holding back?! Oh yeah, he's just not that good.

 

[buck naked]

I wouldn't sell this quickly over a short little blurb.

It isn't. I've read this several times now here in Chicago.

 

[Sabertooth]

Don't sell him short. He's a tremendous slouch.

:golfclap:

 

[Grahamburn]

Don't sell him short. He's a tremendous slouch.

:golfclap:

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm keeping an eye on Earl Bennett. Has some chemistry with Cutler going back to their Vanderbilt days.

Read this. Waldman breaks down Bennett in great detail here.

 

[tenaka]

I'm keeping an eye on Earl Bennett. Has some chemistry with Cutler going back to their Vanderbilt days.

Pfft...earl's had chemistry now for 2 years. Why's he holding back?! Oh yeah, he's just not that good.

Exactly. As a Bears fan I got so incredibly tired of listening to the national broadcasters talk about the "chemistry" just because they were in college together. Really, one season in the NFL with a QB and WR together and they're going to have so much more chemistry than college day playing with college play-calling and college routes is going to provide. Today, ####ler has every bit as much chemistry with Hester, Knox, Forte and Clark as he does with Bennett.

 

[Sweetness_34]

FBGs put out a link to ComcastSportsNet says Roy Williams is not in football shape. Surprise!! Williams has been a huge disappointment his entire career except that anomaly of a season under Martz. I am not really surprised the Bears went after him. They have a knack for not being able to pick talent. There was a glut of excellent free agent WRs this year, and the Bears go after him.......BIG SIGH!! Floyd, VJax, Holmes, Rice, Edwards, Clayton...the list is endless. Every year it gets easier to slam on the Duh Bears. Even Moss would have been a better choice and we would get the enjoyment of Moss eating Cutler for lunch with all his ineptitude. Maybe Owens will find his way to Chicago. That being said, I am willing to say Barber was a great pick up, a classic example of the blind squirrel finding a nut occasionally.

While I am not a Roy W fan, let's not forget facts when dealing with your rant:- Santonio Holmes re-signed with his team when the window was opened for FAs to re-sign with their team- VJax signed his franchise tender with his own team. Again, was not available for other teams unless you give up 2 1s etc- Braylon Edwards stinks- Derrick Mason is old as dirt- Steve Smith (CAR) does not seem to be on the trade block- Randy Moss and TO are unwanted by everyone- Plaxico Burress is old and will be rusty at best- Sidney Rice => ridiculously over paid for a WR that has had one good year and is a walking injury- Malcolm Floyd: I would not mind getting him but he is no #1 WR. Given the short off season and the Martz system, getting someone who was familiar with the system was the best bet. And the Bears made a one year deal worth $2M. They could cut him tomorrow and lose nothing in terms of future exposure. If anything, a one year deal should motivate Roy given this might be his last chance to shine....with a solid QB and a system he is familiar with.

 

[atcdav]

I wouldn't sell this quickly over a short little blurb.

Maybe not but Williams track record is very mediocre. He had 2 years with a near elite QB and nothing to show for it. The blurb is just a repeat of his past history, nothing new. "Not in football shape"=no work ethic. I think the bears blew it yet again.I have hopes for Bennett and I have an inkling Know will be on the field.

 

[atcdav]

Given the short off season and the Martz system, getting someone who was familiar with the system was the best bet. And the Bears made a one year deal worth $2M. They could cut him tomorrow and lose nothing in terms of future exposure. If anything, a one year deal should motivate Roy given this might be his last chance to shine....with a solid QB and a system he is familiar with.

Duh Bears don't need bottom fishing they need a #1WR. They passed on Boldin, They could have moved on VJax last year I believe, Floyd over Williams anyday. I would take Grandpa Mason over Williams for one year no doubt.

 

[Abraham]

I wouldn't sell this quickly over a short little blurb.

Maybe not but Williams track record is very mediocre. He had 2 years with a near elite QB and nothing to show for it. The blurb is just a repeat of his past history, nothing new. "Not in football shape"=no work ethic. I think the bears blew it yet again.I have hopes for Bennett and I have an inkling Know will be on the field.

I think this misses the mark. Williams started last season very well and seemed to have found a role in the Dallas offense until Dez Bryant started performing. At that point, everyone started talking about Dez and Roy's SUBSTANTIAL ego was bruised. He went to Chicago not only because of the cast and crew they have there, but also because it was a team that didn't have a WR with star power. Roy could/can be the "face man", which is how he wants it.As for his performance, he'll be fine. He's not going to be an elite WR, but 60-70 catches and 800-900 yards with 5-8 touchdowns.

 

[Kenny Powers]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

 

[tenaka]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Martz and Lovie appear to be on a "bench people to motivate them" kick this summer. Almost no one in Chicago actually expects Hester to start over Knox during the bulk of the real season.

 

[az_prof]

I'm keeping an eye on Earl Bennett. Has some chemistry with Cutler going back to their Vanderbilt days.

Read this. Waldman breaks down Bennett in great detail here.

Waldman has been high on him going back to his rookie year, but... Here is my take on Bennett. He is a good possession receiver but he lacks the speed and burst to be an elite receiver and he he needs more of both be a good receiver in Martz' offense. I think he could be a good Wr2 for some teams but not with the current offense in Chicago.

 

[Clifford]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Martz and Lovie appear to be on a "bench people to motivate them" kick this summer. Almost no one in Chicago actually expects Hester to start over Knox during the bulk of the real season.

Grossman started over Orton for YEARS. Never underestimate the stupidity of bears coaching/management.Bears just plain suck at evaluating talent at any position other than LB and RB. They whiff again and again and again at every other position in football.McCaskey needs to clean house from Angelo all the way down to Martz. Only Marinelli should be retained from this coaching group. Everyone else should have been fired a long time ago (with the exception of Tice who gets one more year to prove why he should be fired).Rex is our quarterbackDevin is our receiverMike is our coordinator.C'mon, say it with me!

 

[tenaka]

Hey we did figure out that we should be starting Peppers so we're good with DEs too... and anything involving special teams. If ANYONE is a keeper on the staff its Dave Toub.

It starts with Angelo. Some of my friends have been saying to get rid of Lovie for a few years now. Problem is, if you replace just the HC that pretty much rubber stamps the GMs return for at least 2-3 more years while you figure out if HC was the problem. The only argument is if you should go higher and remove Ted Phillips as well. The organization is so tight lipped about who makes the actual decisions its hard for us outsiders to have a true handle on how far up the chain the problem is. I just know Angelo is a worse GM than Matt Millen was.

 

[Couch Potato]

Roy, Roy, he's your boy

Martzy loves his latest toy!

Knox, Knox, on the outs

Won't be running many routes

Earl, Earl, runs like a girl

But catches passes slant and curl

The guy to play is Sanzenbacher, Dane

But it won't happen, my hope's in vain.

Devin starting? There's a shock.

Blackmail pics of Lovie's... (never mind, I'd get banned. That's a lock)

 

[FavreCo]

Roy Williams was made for Martz system. It's especially enjoyable when a perfectly thrown pass results in a drop and a big laugh by Williams.

 

[shnikies]

poor johnny knox, gets dumped from his starting gig and maligned by the coaches for an out of shape underachiever.

The only thing poor about Johnny Knox are his receiving skills. I'd rather have Roy Williams go up and attack the ball only to drop it than to have Knox routinely allow defenders cut him off on slants.

 

[Sweetness_34]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Martz and Lovie appear to be on a "bench people to motivate them" kick this summer. Almost no one in Chicago actually expects Hester to start over Knox during the bulk of the real season.

Grossman started over Orton for YEARS. Never underestimate the stupidity of bears coaching/management.Bears just plain suck at evaluating talent at any position other than LB and RB. They whiff again and again and again at every other position in football.McCaskey needs to clean house from Angelo all the way down to Martz. Only Marinelli should be retained from this coaching group. Everyone else should have been fired a long time ago (with the exception of Tice who gets one more year to prove why he should be fired).Rex is our quarterbackDevin is our receiverMike is our coordinator.C'mon, say it with me!

Settle down. When Orton was the starter in his first year when Rex got injured, he was winning only because of the D and the run game. I remember Rex coming back and giving the Bears the spark in the playoffs (against Atlanta/Vick). Orton took a while to develop. Until then Rex was the best option and frankly, Orton is not great. He is average at best...no different than Rex. They both have different strengths and weaknesses. Only reason Orton produced the FF #s last year was because he played on a team with a terrible D and a team that passed the ball almost every down in Mcdaniel's system.

 

[Widbil83]

Went to camp last week and saw him drop at least 2 or 3 easy balls without the defense even on the field. Judging from the crowds reaction around me and some of the comments I heard, if this continues into the season this won't end well.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Earl Bennett is 24 years old. Probably too soon to give up on him. He had 100 receptions and 1278 yards before he turned 24. That's pretty good. One thing Earl can really do is catch that ball.

Sam Hurd was a better pickup than people think. He'll really help on Special Teams and is an upgrade at WR depth.

Roy Williams is serviceable, and will probably have the second best year of his career. The trade and the contract really put the screws to the Cowboys, but that doesn't mean he won't improve the Bears who are bereft of experienced WR talent. Particularly, he will improve the vertical options in the redzone. You can't throw a bunch of stuff in the redzone with Knox, Hester or Bennett that the Bears will be able to throw to Williams. Even across the middle, Knox and Hester get banged around like ping pong balls. That won't happen with Williams. Roy Williams does suck, but he sucks at a size and speed that the Bears didn't have and needed. I'd be curious to know his weight right now. He should be playing around 210-215, but he looks heavy to me. One other area that is underrated about Williams is that when he is interested, he is tough to bring down when he's utilizing his straightline speed after the catch. When he is interested, he makes catches over the middle. The Romo-Williams thing just never worked. It seemed as though they could never get their collective ship together. Somehow the routes run never matched the passes thrown or vice versa. Maybe a change of dancing partners will help him.

Hester is the one that blows my mind. Every camp brings the same story, but he's just been awful. The reason Knox, Hester and Bennett have the numbers they have is that SOMEBODY has to catch the ball out there and they have been the bodies on the field.

A lot of people are upset that the Bears didn't draft a wide receiver, but they really don't need to get any younger at that position and Roy Williams was a bargain at what they are paying him. You get the sense that Jerry Angelo has a bunch of Benjamin Graham books on his shelves.

Best scenario would be:

1) Revitalized Roy Williams

2) Earl Bennett

3) Alternating Knox and Hester

 

[Manster]

Roy Williams was made for Martz system. It's especially enjoyable when a perfectly thrown pass results in a drop and a big laugh by Williams.

Favre gets it.

 

[SSOG]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Not saying this is the whole reason, but I'm sure the decision was at least partially impacted by the fact that no receiver saw a higher number of his targets intercepted than Johnny Knox. Knox was the target on a ridiculous 69% (11 of 16) of Cutler's INTs, despite only being a target on 22% (97 out of 432) of Cutler's total attempts. That might just be random noise in the data, but it also might mean that Knox keeps running the wrong routes, or fails to go back to the ball, or fails to play defense on off-target passes, or otherwise leaves Cutler out to dry.Cutler's INT% on passes to Knox was 11%. His INT% on passes to everyone else combined was 1.5%. One out of every 9 passes directed at Knox last year wound up getting picked off. That's rough.

 

[Kenny Powers]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Not saying this is the whole reason, but I'm sure the decision was at least partially impacted by the fact that no receiver saw a higher number of his targets intercepted than Johnny Knox. Knox was the target on a ridiculous 69% (11 of 16) of Cutler's INTs, despite only being a target on 22% (97 out of 432) of Cutler's total attempts. That might just be random noise in the data, but it also might mean that Knox keeps running the wrong routes, or fails to go back to the ball, or fails to play defense on off-target passes, or otherwise leaves Cutler out to dry.Cutler's INT% on passes to Knox was 11%. His INT% on passes to everyone else combined was 1.5%. One out of every 9 passes directed at Knox last year wound up getting picked off. That's rough.

Dont know that it changes my opinion, but thanks

 

[glumpy]

I'm leery of making a call at this point anyway, between those four--but that's some good stuff SSOG.

eta: Guess Bennett is the one I'm looking at here, working slot. Cutler's purely surviving on instinct behind that Martz o-line.

Can't believe I'm thinking of drinking that koolaid again.

 

[Couch Potato]

One lesson I've learned about Mad Mike Martz over the years is that he doesn't bluff to motivate. If he doesn't like you and isn't using you right now when getting ready for the season, you can be sure it's not a trick. Mike Williams in Detroit, Vernon Davis in San Fran. There have been others. I know there are FF guys who look at the stats Knox put up last year and still want to hope, but I'm forgetting about him this year. I've seen it too many times with Martz. Knox is toast for 2011 as far as anything resembling his 2010 stats are concerned.

 

[Quez]

It's not like he will have anyone to throw to him anyways. Cutler will be out before the bye weeks with the way the Chi O-line has been playing.

 

[atcdav]

At least we wont be disappointed since there are no expectations

 

[SSOG]

One lesson I've learned about Mad Mike Martz over the years is that he doesn't bluff to motivate. If he doesn't like you and isn't using you right now when getting ready for the season, you can be sure it's not a trick. Mike Williams in Detroit, Vernon Davis in San Fran. There have been others. I know there are FF guys who look at the stats Knox put up last year and still want to hope, but I'm forgetting about him this year. I've seen it too many times with Martz. Knox is toast for 2011 as far as anything resembling his 2010 stats are concerned.

Really, the entire "ploy to motivate... (Tatum Bell)" storyline is totally played out. People seem to think that coaches are playing 11-dimensional chess, here. The overwhelming majority of coaches, I've found, don't bother trying to use the depth chart as a motivational ploy. They set the depth charts based on what they think is best for the team. Sometimes demoted players use that depth chart as a motivational tool, but that's strictly an ancillary benefit of an otherwise utilitarian process.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

I'm gonna be laughing when good ole boy roy pulls out 1000 yards this year.

 

[twistd]

I wouldn't mind the Bears signing Roy Williams so much if they had seemed to have a back up plan. If they had a solid group of receivers and they were just taking a chance on Williams I would feel okay about it. The Bears took a chance on Okoye and Gholston. They signed them both to reasonable contracts. They have other options on the defensive line, and they are hoping these guys produce, but if they don't they can just cut them. They aren't counting on either of them to produce because the defensive line is pretty solid with the guys they already had. The Bears had a pretty weak group of WRs going in to this and they are counting on Williams to improve that group. If he falls flat they are back to the underwhelming group you had to start with.

Contrast that with the Rams. The Rams had injuries, and uncertainty at WR. They have talented players like Avery, who hasn't been able to stay healthy. They can't quite figure out what they have in Gilyard and Gibson. They may be able to get Mark Clayton back when he is healthy. They drafted a couple of rookies. So they have a lot of bodies at WR, but they aren't all that sure what they have. They get a chance to sign Sims-Walker and they do it. They sign Sims-Walker to a reasonable contract, and give him a chance to compete. They aren't going to get to keep all these guys, but let them compete in training camp and the best guys get the roster spots. The Rams are hoping their young players will develop, but they are bringing in as much talent as possible to try to end up with the best group of players at that position that they can get. The Bears on the other hand are bringing in Williams as the only guy to try to improve a very mediocre group. They sit on their hands counting on their young guys to improve.

The Bears were aggressive in trying to improve the defensive line, which may have already been a strength, but not that concerned with improving a receiving core that was a weakness. I think they are overestimating Williams by handing him the starting job when he has done nothing to earn it. I think Williams will disappoint just as he has every year for the last five, and the Bears passing game will struggle because of it.

 

[buck naked]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Not saying this is the whole reason, but I'm sure the decision was at least partially impacted by the fact that no receiver saw a higher number of his targets intercepted than Johnny Knox. Knox was the target on a ridiculous 69% (11 of 16) of Cutler's INTs, despite only being a target on 22% (97 out of 432) of Cutler's total attempts. That might just be random noise in the data, but it also might mean that Knox keeps running the wrong routes, or fails to go back to the ball, or fails to play defense on off-target passes, or otherwise leaves Cutler out to dry.Cutler's INT% on passes to Knox was 11%. His INT% on passes to everyone else combined was 1.5%. One out of every 9 passes directed at Knox last year wound up getting picked off. That's rough.

In Chicago here, I've heard that was the problem with Knox. Good post.

 

[buck naked]

I'm gonna be laughing when good ole boy roy pulls out 1000 yards this year.

1000 yards of what, toilet paper?

 

[gbill2004]

Roy is gonna go for at least 1100 yards, 75 receptions and 6-8 TDs. I guarantee that.

 

[tenaka]

WR1-HesterWR2-RoyWR3-BennettWR4-KnoxWhy do I feel that the guys running with the 2nd team are going to be the guys to get late and profit on?

I cant believe Knox is seriously considered their #4 and Hester a starter. Hester didnt have 500yds last yr and Knox had almost 1000. I dont get it.

Not saying this is the whole reason, but I'm sure the decision was at least partially impacted by the fact that no receiver saw a higher number of his targets intercepted than Johnny Knox. Knox was the target on a ridiculous 69% (11 of 16) of Cutler's INTs, despite only being a target on 22% (97 out of 432) of Cutler's total attempts. That might just be random noise in the data, but it also might mean that Knox keeps running the wrong routes, or fails to go back to the ball, or fails to play defense on off-target passes, or otherwise leaves Cutler out to dry.Cutler's INT% on passes to Knox was 11%. His INT% on passes to everyone else combined was 1.5%. One out of every 9 passes directed at Knox last year wound up getting picked off. That's rough.

In Chicago here, I've heard that was the problem with Knox. Good post.

Yes, all of the people who make any and every excuse for Cutler and still believe he is the golden boy will jump and the chance to point fingers at Knox when balls are thrown right into the hands of defenders. The rest of us have figured out that the guy who was supposed to be golden was really made of pyrite. If that many passes targeted at one guy are being picked off, then he is taking a lot more chances throwing there than throwing to other players.

 

[flapgreen]

Hilarious signing from the start.

 

[tenaka]

Roy is gonna go for at least 1100 yards, 75 receptions and 6-8 TDs. I guarantee that.

Its been since 2002 since a Bear caught 75 balls (booker with 97). since then 70 has only been toppped once, berrian with 71 in 2007.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

I'm gonna be laughing when good ole boy roy pulls out 1000 yards this year.

1000 yards of what, toilet paper?

Touche sir, touche.

 

[SSOG]

Yes, all of the people who make any and every excuse for Cutler and still believe he is the golden boy will jump and the chance to point fingers at Knox when balls are thrown right into the hands of defenders. The rest of us have figured out that the guy who was supposed to be golden was really made of pyrite. If that many passes targeted at one guy are being picked off, then he is taking a lot more chances throwing there than throwing to other players.

When Player A throws to Player B, he's almost 10 times as likely to be intercepted as when he throws to Player C... and you're saying the fault lies with Player A? You're saying that occurs because Player B is so good that Player A forces him the ball? If that reasoning is correct, then why didn't the Arizona QBs throw more picks intended for Fitzgerald than Cutler threw intended for Knox? Surely the Arizona QBs are worse than Cutler. Surely Fitzgerald is so much better than Knox that QBs would be even more likely still to try to force something in to him.Even if we assume your narrative is true- that Cutler trusted Knox would make plays and took more risks when throwing to him... doesn't the fact that the ball was getting picked off so much suggest at the very least that Cutler's faith in Knox is misplaced? That Knox has not shown himself worthy of the trust that Cutler seems to have him? That's really the best defense you can muster?

 

[tenaka]

Yes, all of the people who make any and every excuse for Cutler and still believe he is the golden boy will jump and the chance to point fingers at Knox when balls are thrown right into the hands of defenders. The rest of us have figured out that the guy who was supposed to be golden was really made of pyrite. If that many passes targeted at one guy are being picked off, then he is taking a lot more chances throwing there than throwing to other players.

When Player A throws to Player B, he's almost 10 times as likely to be intercepted as when he throws to Player C... and you're saying the fault lies with Player A? You're saying that occurs because Player B is so good that Player A forces him the ball? If that reasoning is correct, then why didn't the Arizona QBs throw more picks intended for Fitzgerald than Cutler threw intended for Knox? Surely the Arizona QBs are worse than Cutler. Surely Fitzgerald is so much better than Knox that QBs would be even more likely still to try to force something in to him.Even if we assume your narrative is true- that Cutler trusted Knox would make plays and took more risks when throwing to him... doesn't the fact that the ball was getting picked off so much suggest at the very least that Cutler's faith in Knox is misplaced? That Knox has not shown himself worthy of the trust that Cutler seems to have him? That's really the best defense you can muster?

Its not about trust. Its about Cutler making bad decisions. He makes bad decisions by tryong to go for the big play that isn't there. Who is going to be downfield, Bennett, Forte or Knox? Knox, of course. So who gets the dangerous balls thrown? Knox.Arizona didn't have that problem because their QBs aren't trying to force big plays that aren't there to Fitz. Fitzgerald is actually open.

 

[clwn_posse]

Knox has only 2 years under his beltg and is a player with decent size and a ton of speed. To me, he is close to "getting it". I'm very surprised they aren't giving him that chance. The coaches must not think he is close. Ashley Lelie II?

 

[atcdav]

OK! MNF and DUh Bears looked AWE.....ful. THeir superstar WR #1 Roy "The BrickHand" Williams caughts a wopping.....help me here....friggin ZERO !!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :gun_to_own_head:

The Bears are so predictable. If there is a lousy FA cheap, the Bears will sign him. Maybe the door opened a crack for the little guy...not that it matters.

Can we start a preseason venting thread?

 

[flapgreen]

OK! MNF and DUh Bears looked AWE.....ful. THeir superstar WR #1 Roy "The BrickHand" Williams caughts a wopping.....help me here....friggin ZERO !!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :gun_to_own_head:The Bears are so predictable. If there is a lousy FA cheap, the Bears will sign him. Maybe the door opened a crack for the little guy...not that it matters.Can we start a preseason venting thread?

Your jib, I like the cut of it.