Run in with a Walgreens Mgr over some Swedish Fish (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

 

[igbomb]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

Where does the logic come from this? I don't want to turn the thread into an attack/defense of government freeloaders but how can you defend people who get free credits for food and then buy Frosted Flakes, Pop Tarts, and Doritos? I'm sorry but they can eat a lot healthier and nutritious buying other things. I do feel the money should be used for essentials like milk, bread, eggs, meat, fruits & veggies, why is that such a rotten thing? Because the next thing is they are constantly unhealthy and costing even more money in the emergency rooms in this country.

But anyways, you can hate on us all you like but your attack(I know we're just bantering here) is not grounded in anything other than emotion.

[SIZE=medium]I know it’s pointless to try to argue a point with you since you are clearly convinced of your own righteousness.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]But no developed country on this planet demonizes their poor like we do. We give them money (though a lot less than other countries do) and then we treat them like crap because they have the nerve to be poor and take that money. As any psychologist will tell you, you tell someone they are a piece of crap for long enough and they start to believe it. Either that or they just say f you to the world and become embittered.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Folks like you decry the state of society today, but our country and its policies have created that society. And it’s not because we create a ‘welfare state’ and discourage people from picking themselves up. As I’ve pointed out, every other developed nation is MORE generous and LESS restrictive with giving aid to the poor. It’s because we do NOT create the opportunities for these people to get themselves to a better place in life. You can point our your anecdotes of people who grew up poor and pulled themselves out of it through willpower. Hell, I grew up broke, living in a trailer park with a single mom. And I managed to blaze through school and head off to college and live a great life. But all you need to do is look at the data that says this is the exception and not the rule to see that we are clearly doing it wrong.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]We’ve been labeling the poor as lazy and stupid since the 80s at least, and it’s not helpful at all. And people like you that make them feel smaller or more resentful simply reinforce any lack of faith they have in the system and keep the circle going. The only other answer to the inability of the bottom chunk of America to pull themselves out of it is to believe that we are somehow genetically inferior to the people in every other developed nation.[/SIZE]

Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.

I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.

Of course you ignored my point that we are far LESS generous to our poor than other developed nations yet they don't have the problems of poverty that we do. So how can you come to a logical conclusion that we are giving people too much incentive to not work. Go look at Scandinavia, or Germany. All financially better off than us, with massive entitlement programs, a far bigger safety net than we have, free education, etc. So if they are creating all of this incentive to be lazy, why don't they have our issues?

 

[DaVinci]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

Or you grow up and learn to tell the difference between a travesty and an inconvenience.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Of course you ignored my point that we are far LESS generous to our poor than other developed nations yet they don't have the problems of poverty that we do. So how can you come to a logical conclusion that we are giving people too much incentive to not work. Go look at Scandinavia, or Germany. All financially better off than us, with massive entitlement programs, a far bigger safety net than we have, free education, etc. So if they are creating all of this incentive to be lazy, why don't they have our issues?

I apologize IGB, I wasn't trying to ignore your point, it's just I would disagree. You feel we treat our poor terrible and I think we treat the poor just fine. I've seen developed Europe, there are lots of poor people there as well. I had an Englishman put my windows in my house, he left England in the 80s and said the system is very hard to get ahead.

You can sit there and type all you like, I go by people I talk to from these countries, and also my own personal travels. I would disagree, there is a path for folks who do not have as much when they enter this World, for the most part it is pretty fair.

Rather than worry about comforting the poor, why don't we pour more resources into the folks who did make the choice to better their lives and enter the working class as well as those who already are in the working class, why don't we spend more resources on the folks who are driving this country? Shouldn't the folks breaking their backs everyday get some benefits? I want a system that rewards hard work.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Of course you ignored my point that we are far LESS generous to our poor than other developed nations yet they don't have the problems of poverty that we do. So how can you come to a logical conclusion that we are giving people too much incentive to not work. Go look at Scandinavia, or Germany. All financially better off than us, with massive entitlement programs, a far bigger safety net than we have, free education, etc. So if they are creating all of this incentive to be lazy, why don't they have our issues?

I apologize IGB, I wasn't trying to ignore your point, it's just I would disagree. You feel we treat our poor terrible and I think we treat the poor just fine. I've seen developed Europe, there are lots of poor people there as well. I had an Englishman put my windows in my house, he left England in the 80s and said the system is very hard to get ahead.

You can sit there and type all you like, I go by people I talk to from these countries, and also my own personal travels. I would disagree, there is a path for folks who do not have as much when they enter this World, for the most part it is pretty fair.

Rather than worry about comforting the poor, why don't we pour more resources into the folks who did make the choice to better their lives and enter the working class as well as those who already are in the working class, why don't we spend more resources on the folks who are driving this country? Shouldn't the folks breaking their backs everyday get some benefits? I want a system that rewards hard work.

Just because you have an EBT card doesn't mean you are unemployed or not a hard worker. How do you know their circumstances?

Where have you traveled and what experiences did you have that allows you to compare our poor and system to others?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

Or you grow up and learn to tell the difference between a travesty and an inconvenience.

I know it was an inconvenience genius. That's why we have a 21 page thread about it. If it was a travesty we would have a 100 page thread and Tim would be leading the discussion. Would you grow up already?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Just because you have an EBT card doesn't mean you are unemployed or not a hard worker. How do you know their circumstances?

Where have you traveled and what experiences did you have that allows you to compare our poor and system to others?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

I understand your stance. Everyone of them is just a diamond in the rough waiting for that magic moment to appear in their lives, got it.

 

[igbomb]

Of course you ignored my point that we are far LESS generous to our poor than other developed nations yet they don't have the problems of poverty that we do. So how can you come to a logical conclusion that we are giving people too much incentive to not work. Go look at Scandinavia, or Germany. All financially better off than us, with massive entitlement programs, a far bigger safety net than we have, free education, etc. So if they are creating all of this incentive to be lazy, why don't they have our issues?

I apologize IGB, I wasn't trying to ignore your point, it's just I would disagree. You feel we treat our poor terrible and I think we treat the poor just fine. I've seen developed Europe, there are lots of poor people there as well. I had an Englishman put my windows in my house, he left England in the 80s and said the system is very hard to get ahead.

You can sit there and type all you like, I go by people I talk to from these countries, and also my own personal travels. I would disagree, there is a path for folks who do not have as much when they enter this World, for the most part it is pretty fair.

Rather than worry about comforting the poor, why don't we pour more resources into the folks who did make the choice to better their lives and enter the working class as well as those who already are in the working class, why don't we spend more resources on the folks who are driving this country? Shouldn't the folks breaking their backs everyday get some benefits? I want a system that rewards hard work.

Look at that, a sliver of common ground.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. We can help the poor more than we do and help out the middle class as well. You're right that there has to be an incentive to actually hit the middle class. Our non-existent middle class is the result of 30+ years of trickle-down economics sending all of the money upwards.

Though I still struggle to see how you or the other angry guy demeaning poor people or under-educated folks is helping the situation.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

If you've been arrested for intimidating and calling a woman a #### at Bed Bath and Beyond, you probably aren't the person who should be giving out unsolicited life skills advice to strangers.

Disagree. This is more entertaining than any advice column.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her.

And here's the problem that you consistently fail to realize: these events don't "happen" to you and SIDA; you create them.

That's where you fail to realize, we don't create these situations. If people would act right then it wouldn't happen. Most of the time I don't say much, I just go about my business, in the last 5 years I bet I haven't had more than 1 of these threads a year, I've learned it is better to avoid conflict, but every once in a while you gotta fire back, you gotta draw a line in the sand. It just happened to be Swedish Fish as I was running a fever and had the flu.

Would I have said much if I were a well person that day? Maybe/maybe not.

I know it's fashionable to rip on MOP, but let's be honest. If you don't draw the line at Swedish Fish, you're part of the problem.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Just because you have an EBT card doesn't mean you are unemployed or not a hard worker. How do you know their circumstances?

Where have you traveled and what experiences did you have that allows you to compare our poor and system to others?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

I understand your stance. Everyone of them is just a diamond in the rough waiting for that magic moment to appear in their lives, got it.

You are a walking logical fallacy.

 

[Hawks64]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

I would have liked this post but apparently I have reached my quota of positive votes for the day. Time to rage about that I guess.

 

[Limp Ditka]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

I would have liked this post but apparently I have reached my quota of positive votes for the day. Time to rage about that I guess.

@ 10:30 in the morning? I think you just need to calm the F down on the like button.

 

[tommyGunZ]

And as far as Sida, he/she clearly posted they understand why folks rip on me and then decides to share something that happened to him/her. Now I also understand why people are ragging on him, I also understand what he is saying, I just would not verbalize that to this person in line.

yes, internally I am saying similar things to myself that Sida would say, so I guess the difference in that situation is I would not have said anything, not worth getting arrested over for sure. They went about it the wrong way but it doesn't change the sadness that people buy nonessentials with government money, when did that become acceptable? In the 80s?, 90s? I'm sure there was a time in this country when you wouldn't dare buy nonessentials with food stamps or else someone would say something about it. Now it is so common that no one seems to care...the standards have been lowered in this country and continue to slide.

You know who is worse than the people that make poor shopping choices on government money? D-bags who think that because they paid one fraction of a cent towards that person's food that they now have the right to assess and judge whether the poor person is making appropriate shopping choices.

Where does the logic come from this? I don't want to turn the thread into an attack/defense of government freeloaders but how can you defend people who get free credits for food and then buy Frosted Flakes, Pop Tarts, and Doritos? I'm sorry but they can eat a lot healthier and nutritious buying other things. I do feel the money should be used for essentials like milk, bread, eggs, meat, fruits & veggies, why is that such a rotten thing? Because the next thing is they are constantly unhealthy and costing even more money in the emergency rooms in this country.

But anyways, you can hate on us all you like but your attack(I know we're just bantering here) is not grounded in anything other than emotion.

[SIZE=medium]I know it’s pointless to try to argue a point with you since you are clearly convinced of your own righteousness.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]But no developed country on this planet demonizes their poor like we do. We give them money (though a lot less than other countries do) and then we treat them like crap because they have the nerve to be poor and take that money. As any psychologist will tell you, you tell someone they are a piece of crap for long enough and they start to believe it. Either that or they just say f you to the world and become embittered.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Folks like you decry the state of society today, but our country and its policies have created that society. And it’s not because we create a ‘welfare state’ and discourage people from picking themselves up. As I’ve pointed out, every other developed nation is MORE generous and LESS restrictive with giving aid to the poor. It’s because we do NOT create the opportunities for these people to get themselves to a better place in life. You can point our your anecdotes of people who grew up poor and pulled themselves out of it through willpower. Hell, I grew up broke, living in a trailer park with a single mom. And I managed to blaze through school and head off to college and live a great life. But all you need to do is look at the data that says this is the exception and not the rule to see that we are clearly doing it wrong.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]We’ve been labeling the poor as lazy and stupid since the 80s at least, and it’s not helpful at all. And people like you that make them feel smaller or more resentful simply reinforce any lack of faith they have in the system and keep the circle going. The only other answer to the inability of the bottom chunk of America to pull themselves out of it is to believe that we are somehow genetically inferior to the people in every other developed nation.[/SIZE]

Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.

I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.

Bull####. You need to take the SNAP challenge and then see if you still feel that way.

 

[TheIronSheik]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

I would have liked this post but apparently I have reached my quota of positive votes for the day. Time to rage about that I guess.

@ 10:30 in the morning? I think you just need to calm the F down on the like button.

It's within a 24 hour period. Because it happens to me a lot.

 

[Hawks64]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

I would have liked this post but apparently I have reached my quota of positive votes for the day. Time to rage about that I guess.

@ 10:30 in the morning? I think you just need to calm the F down on the like button.

Apparently I am just a F'ing liking machine.

 

[ProBowler88]

If you've been arrested for intimidating and calling a woman a #### at Bed Bath and Beyond, you probably aren't the person who should be giving out unsolicited life skills advice to strangers.

Disagree. This is more entertaining than any advice column.

I concur, this is better than a small handfull of TV shows.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

The actual issue is, he called a stranger who wasn't involved in his life at all a "c---" after berating her for doing business in a way that the business she was at lets her. At least, for me that's the actual issue.

The second bolded statement is a spectacular signature line.

News flash - the world doesn't need you to step in because people are being difficult. Everyone's got his own #######ed problems. Mind your own business, try to relax when other people are having a bad day, and the whole world goes a whole lot smoother. Or keep starting holy wars over candy. It keeps me employed.

 

[Henry Ford]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

I love this presumptive question.

And yet, 100% on the mark.

Also, presumptive vs. presumptuous makes this gold. If you're a nerd like I am.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Of course you ignored my point that we are far LESS generous to our poor than other developed nations yet they don't have the problems of poverty that we do. So how can you come to a logical conclusion that we are giving people too much incentive to not work. Go look at Scandinavia, or Germany. All financially better off than us, with massive entitlement programs, a far bigger safety net than we have, free education, etc. So if they are creating all of this incentive to be lazy, why don't they have our issues?

I apologize IGB, I wasn't trying to ignore your point, it's just I would disagree. You feel we treat our poor terrible and I think we treat the poor just fine. I've seen developed Europe, there are lots of poor people there as well. I had an Englishman put my windows in my house, he left England in the 80s and said the system is very hard to get ahead.

You can sit there and type all you like, I go by people I talk to from these countries, and also my own personal travels. I would disagree, there is a path for folks who do not have as much when they enter this World, for the most part it is pretty fair.

Rather than worry about comforting the poor, why don't we pour more resources into the folks who did make the choice to better their lives and enter the working class as well as those who already are in the working class, why don't we spend more resources on the folks who are driving this country? Shouldn't the folks breaking their backs everyday get some benefits? I want a system that rewards hard work.

Look at that, a sliver of common ground.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. We can help the poor more than we do and help out the middle class as well. You're right that there has to be an incentive to actually hit the middle class. Our non-existent middle class is the result of 30+ years of trickle-down economics sending all of the money upwards.

Though I still struggle to see how you or the other angry guy demeaning poor people or under-educated folks is helping the situation.

If we can help the working class simultaneously helping the poor and force the wealthy to pay by getting rid of silly loopholes in the system, I'm all for it. I see a barrier or a problem in pushing folks to want to get out an d earn a living. So many people working for barely minimum wage and they fall further and further behind. We need to fix life for the 90% of us that are either working class or poor, the numbers are on our side.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

As we waste time on this message board, yes life is too short.

 

[drummer]

You guys just need to calm the F down. Life's too short.

yes life is too short.

To waste on Swedish Fish

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.


I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.

Bull####. You need to take the SNAP challenge and then see if you still feel that way.

What is bullspit? The notion that families of 4 with $50,000 a year household income are not that much better off than those under the poverty line? That's more than twice the allotted money and these families barely have two nickels to rub together, where is the disconnect exactly?

Please tell me TG you are not going to turn this into splitting up the working class into little factions, that's the big problem. I do not differ much between the family making $50k and the family making $150k, the ones making more simply have nicer cars, little bigger house, but they have the same day to day bullspit everyone else has.

You might have missed a few of my posts over the past couple years but people who start taking gripes with other people who make $25k more a year and are still in the same class, that's exactly what they want in Washington. Turn the guy making $100k against the guy making $50k, that's the problem in this country but it really isn't. The problem is the majority(the working class) of folks fall in the $25k-$250k a year and they fight amongst themselves when they should band together and take on the Company that is making $250 Million, not $250 thousand...they must have a good time in Congress, Senate, and White House laughing at how stupid we are in this country.

To allow the people we elected in office to make rules that largely do not help any of us but thousands of rules and laws in place to help the rich and money making greedy companies...we have gotta be pretty stupid in this country.

OK TG, where do you want to start here?

 

[SIDA!]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's amazing and par for the course in here. Henry and others decide to sidestep the actual issues and just go for character assassination. You would rather pick on the person trying to explain the situation than actually discuss the downward spiral of society. Or maybe you just want to poke a couple folks on an IMB and I completely understand that as well.

Take it down to a simple level, this has happened to everyone. You are driving and you are cut off or someone jumps in front of you and tap the horn to let them know you are there...and then you get the proverbial middle finger extended your way even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. And so many of you seem to accept bad behavior from others except when the person who is being irritated decides to answer back. Then it seems all of you have strong opinions that the person who is setting the situation straight as to what is really up, that person is now the bad guy. It's hilarious the thinking patterns in here.

Do as you like but you know inside that head of yours that we're right. You can only take it for so long and then every once in a while you got to start a holy war over some Swedish Fish. Either some of you live inside bubbles in this country or you yourself have your mini little aneurism over things and never report back here about any of it. Or you just sit there and observe and never take action, the holy shiftless who will watch a building burn to the ground rather than call the fire department.

The actual issue is, he called a stranger who wasn't involved in his life at all a "c---" after berating her for doing business in a way that the business she was at lets her. At least, for me that's the actual issue.

The second bolded statement is a spectacular signature line.

News flash - the world doesn't need you to step in because people are being difficult. Everyone's got his own #######ed problems. Mind your own business, try to relax when other people are having a bad day, and the whole world goes a whole lot smoother. Or keep starting holy wars over candy. It keeps me employed.

-Fair enough on point 1

-I have given a bunch of sig worthy quotes over the years, some still remain in here. If you want to grab that one, go for it.

-Mind your own business...I do for the most part. Sometimes though you gotta make a stand. If not Swedish Fish, what next? Gobstoppers, Nerds, Mike n Ikes? Where does the madness end?

 

[gianmarco]

So glad I checked back in here.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

 

[SIDA!]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

I love this presumptive question.

And yet, 100% on the mark.

Also, presumptive vs. presumptuous makes this gold. If you're a nerd like I am.

Glad we can have some levity in the thread even though we disagree. I am not sure what I did wrong here. Not an English major.

Isn't presumptive an extension of presumption which is the belief that something is true without proof that it is true?

 

[SIDA!]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?

 

[Limp Ditka]

 

[Henry Ford]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

I love this presumptive question.

And yet, 100% on the mark.

Also, presumptive vs. presumptuous makes this gold. If you're a nerd like I am.

Glad we can have some levity in the thread even though we disagree. I am not sure what I did wrong here. Not an English major.

Isn't presumptive an extension of presumption which is the belief that something is true without proof that it is true?

Presumptive means it can be guessed with reasonable certainty because of a sizeable amount of evidence.

"Barack Obama is the presumptive 2012 Democratic Presidential Nominee, since he's the incumbent President."

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?

Yes. Yes I am Ghandi.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

No it doesn't so what do you suggest?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?

Yes. Yes I am Ghandi.

"Who is Ghandi?"

-Correct, pick again.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

No it doesn't so what do you suggest?

I suggest not losing your #### over relatively minor things and/or things that are not your business.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?

I get annoyed when people write checks for things, especially when they don't bother to get their checkbook out until they get their total. Somehow, though, I am able to muster the willpower not to drop the C-bomb on them or follow them around in the parking lot.

 

[Frostillicus]

I have no words.

 

[Frostillicus]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?

I get annoyed when people write checks for things, especially when they don't bother to get their checkbook out until they get their total. Somehow, though, I am able to muster the willpower not to drop the C-bomb on them or follow them around in the parking lot.

Are YOU Gandhi?

 

[Henry Ford]

I don't even know where to begin responding to some of these comments since I last posted.

Apparently, in your world you just let people game the system, abuse the system, engage in shady crap and you just ignore it and go about your business. Wanna buy some Oreo's and candy with your welfare dollars...have at it. I know you are really in a bad spot in life and who am I to judge you for wasting your limited funds on life's small pleasures. Want to buy stuff, use it and return it to the store...go right ahead. I am sure you had a perfectly good reason.

Who the hell am I to judge. Maybe the poor person on welfare is trying to be a humanitarian and give the bum outside the store a candy bar because he is in worse shape.

Maybe after using that potty trainer for a year...it got kind of old and dingy...go ahead and take it back for store credit. Doesn't hurt me one bit as I don't mind paying a few extra cents on my next purchase to make up for it. I wonder if I can take my car back to the dealership and get my full purchase price back in dealership credit. It only has 80,000 miles...

I wish I lived where you did...filled with people who were always trying to do the right thing and be productive citizens. That would be awesome.

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

Officer Pete:

Is there anything that you find in society annoying or aggravating? I find it impossible to believe that somehow you do not judge anybody else around you nor get irked by anything that you see. The only thing that apparently irks you is other people expressing how the actions of others irk them.

Are you Ghandi?

I get annoyed when people write checks for things, especially when they don't bother to get their checkbook out until they get their total. Somehow, though, I am able to muster the willpower not to drop the C-bomb on them or follow them around in the parking lot.

You don't even go to the parking lot and take down their license plate numbers so you can find out where they live?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Judge all you want but do you really think throwing a hissy-fit like a roided-out 5 year old is going to change the world?

No it doesn't so what do you suggest?

I suggest not losing your #### over relatively minor things and/or things that are not your business.

Go back to the OP and tell me exactly where I was in the wrong? I think we are discussing the BBB incident which is entirely different than the OP

 

[Mister Martie]

You guys are like Batman and Robin for retail injustices.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You guys are like Batman and Robin for retail injustices.

Ace n Gary would have been a lot funnier but thanks for the Batman vine.

 

[Frostillicus]

You guys are like Batman and Robin for retail injustices.

But with dumb people.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Pretty much this

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pretty much this

That really puts a bow on this thread, ty OPM

 

[tommyGunZ]

Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.


I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.

Bull####. You need to take the SNAP challenge and then see if you still feel that way.

What is bullspit? The notion that families of 4 with $50,000 a year household income are not that much better off than those under the poverty line? That's more than twice the allotted money and these families barely have two nickels to rub together, where is the disconnect exactly?

Please tell me TG you are not going to turn this into splitting up the working class into little factions, that's the big problem. I do not differ much between the family making $50k and the family making $150k, the ones making more simply have nicer cars, little bigger house, but they have the same day to day bullspit everyone else has.

You might have missed a few of my posts over the past couple years but people who start taking gripes with other people who make $25k more a year and are still in the same class, that's exactly what they want in Washington. Turn the guy making $100k against the guy making $50k, that's the problem in this country but it really isn't. The problem is the majority(the working class) of folks fall in the $25k-$250k a year and they fight amongst themselves when they should band together and take on the Company that is making $250 Million, not $250 thousand...they must have a good time in Congress, Senate, and White House laughing at how stupid we are in this country.

To allow the people we elected in office to make rules that largely do not help any of us but thousands of rules and laws in place to help the rich and money making greedy companies...we have gotta be pretty stupid in this country.

OK TG, where do you want to start here?

Let's start with folks like you (likely in a household making ~ $150k+) stop demonizing folks who are making 1/5 of that and using social benefits to buy essentials like food and shelter. They are not the ####### problem.

 

[flapgreen]

Great post, wish would stop putting me down and just defend your position but you actually do a great job of defending mine. The reason it is the exception and not the rule is because we have allowed that to happen. People still all but kill themselves to get into this country so they can attend our Universities. We make it easy for people to get into college these days. If you don't earn great grades and get a scholarship, we allow community colleges and they only require a GED to start enrolling.

I had to go back to school in my 30s, my parents were poor from West Virginia, my mother become a teacher and went back to school at Nova Southeastern. My father did not complete college until he was in his late 30s and had a career in banking. They could have easily lived of the federal government like some of their family did back in West Virginia and Ohio, but they wanted a better life. If a person has a desire to succeed and is willing to work, America is still a pretty fair place for folks to pull themselves out of poverty. The bigger problem is there is no incentive these days for those people to want to join the middle class or working class I would rather refer to it. After the taxes and expenses a lot of people who work everyday and work hard are not that much better off than those who are handed everything by the government. Wages have stayed stagnant for about 20-30 years for most Americans.

But let's get back to Swedish Fish.

Bull####. You need to take the SNAP challenge and then see if you still feel that way.

What is bullspit? The notion that families of 4 with $50,000 a year household income are not that much better off than those under the poverty line? That's more than twice the allotted money and these families barely have two nickels to rub together, where is the disconnect exactly?

Please tell me TG you are not going to turn this into splitting up the working class into little factions, that's the big problem. I do not differ much between the family making $50k and the family making $150k, the ones making more simply have nicer cars, little bigger house, but they have the same day to day bullspit everyone else has.

You might have missed a few of my posts over the past couple years but people who start taking gripes with other people who make $25k more a year and are still in the same class, that's exactly what they want in Washington. Turn the guy making $100k against the guy making $50k, that's the problem in this country but it really isn't. The problem is the majority(the working class) of folks fall in the $25k-$250k a year and they fight amongst themselves when they should band together and take on the Company that is making $250 Million, not $250 thousand...they must have a good time in Congress, Senate, and White House laughing at how stupid we are in this country.

To allow the people we elected in office to make rules that largely do not help any of us but thousands of rules and laws in place to help the rich and money making greedy companies...we have gotta be pretty stupid in this country.

OK TG, where do you want to start here?

Let's start with folks like you (likely in a household making ~ $150k+) stop demonizing folks who are making 1/5 of that and using social benefits to buy essentials like food and shelter. They are not the ####### problem.

I have on good authority that MOP stocks shelves at Wal-Mart. He hates the poor people because they always ask him what isle the cream corn is on.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

I don't have time to read all of this thread so I skimmed through the first couple pages and the last page.

The fascinating thing about MOP from my perspective is I totally get why a lot of folks on here roll their eyes or ridicule/mock him. But the rub is...I see a lot of myself in his responses. I detest getting screwed over or taken advantage of or told that I should just suck it up and move on.

I mean...I don't really understand how some of you guys have such a laissez-faire attitude about some of the shenanigans we see on a daily basis. And yet I fully understand that MOP conveys himself in such a way as to almost/does become a caricature.

My red badge of courage:

I told another customer off in a Bed Bath & Beyond one night which led to a me being placed under citizen's arrest and enduring several court dates all because I couldn't put up with her bull#### in the return line. Obviously, she got the last laugh. So, I have tried to be more selective in the battles I choose...but there are certain things that irk me and I simply can't let it go. And I don't particularly think I am being a ##### bag or an ##### about it. On the contrary...I believe I am pretty fair in general -- but I simply cannot stand the notion that somehow it is incumbent upon me to be the one to acquiesce or to "let it go".

How much of a d-bag do you have to be to have someone place you under citizen's arrest at Bed, Bath & Beyond?

why would you stay there under citizens arrest? what kind of an ahole makes an ahole of himself and then stays under citizens arrest? wtf is up with that story?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

We are all ghandi.