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Cant wait to hear your wifes opinion
I do.'RBM said:
We get it. You own Matthews. You better really start to worry.
Yep.Looks like Mathews also injured his prefrontal cortex, as he believes coming back in 4 weeks in a wise idea.apparently lost all understanding of consequence.
I think he could be back by the opener. He doesn't need to use his collarbone to wave Ronnie Brown into the game for him.
You're funny. If Mathews came out and said he was going to take the maximum time to recover to make sure he was ready you'd likely come on here making a bad joke about how soft and weak he is and not trying to get back on the field.Honest question--- What do you get out of posting in multiple Mathews threads and doing nothing but make derisive jokes about the guy and restate how much you think he'll get reinjured, miss time, not be worth more than a late round flier, etc?We get it. You're not high on the guy. Cool, we all have different opinions on players and time will tell who guessed better than others.But you spend a lot of time posting about a guy you don't like. For a lack of a better term, seems pretty lame IMO.
Honestly, if he said he would take the max time to recover, id be much higher on him. Id at least be comfortable in the fact that he'd play at as close to 100% as he can be for at least 3/4 of the season. And as Ive stated in this or other threads, I intended, or at least pondered DRAFTING him in my big $ league. But now, no chance in hell. He did me a "favour" with this injury in making my decision much easier. Rushing himself back sealed in tenfold. Im not cheering on the injury, that's stupidity. I dont like anyone being hurt. But it did make my decision very simple.
Everything you just posted is reasonable. It's good for you that the situation has clearly moved Mathews off your board. Clarity on my thinking on players/rankings always makes it easier to prepare.I guess it just annoys me a little that 95% of everything else you post in Mathews threads come off as derisive and doesnt really add anything to the discussion. At least IMO.But it's cool. You can obviously post whatever you want. Just my
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Shark tip: Right now, Mathews is on a record pace to break a bone on each carry. Since there are only 206 bones in the human body, he probably won't have more than 206 carries. Use that for your projections. Hold onto him in dynasty leagues though. By next season he will have a completely new titanium-built skeleton, preventing further breakage.
Ok, the wife said it depends on where the break is at and ofcourse the grade of the break. Factors that we don't know. She said with football, it depends on what position they play as well. Obviously, with a RB that takes a lot of punishment to that area it will take longer since you want to make sure it is fully healed.She said, depending on the position, and assuming it's not an extreme fracture, 2 - 4 weeks before they could be back to being able to participate (at varying levels). But she said, personally, she would give it 4 weeks. He will obviosuly have to wear padding (a shoulder harness) for a while as well for extra protection to the area.Sounds reasonable to me. Especially if the fracture isn't that bad.'Warpig said:
Draft McClain, he could end up with Tolbert-like numbers, especially in the TD department. Probably won't do as well as Tolbert in the receptions department. But Turner would have to be an even bigger #### up as a head coach than I already think he is to let Matthews try short yardage ever again.
I might be wrong, but I don't think McClain is nearly as good a receiver. Tolbert was the man b/c he not only got the TDs but also a bunch of receptions. Take the receptions away and well, you have McClain from his Baltimore vulture days.Not that there's no value in that, but it's not Tolbert value.
Agreed - I edited my post above to say the same right as you were typing your reply.
it was bad enough to need surgery. From what i read it needs surgery if the bone breaks thru the skin or if its broken in multiple spots
That's been discussed several times in here already. Surgery, especially in elite athletes, is now standard care for this type of injury and not indicative of the severity of the break.
I can't stop laughing at all of the greatness in this comment.
There is when a doctor starts spouting off about an injury to a guy when he has no idea about the severity of the break, the location oc the break, the patient's previous healing times for injuries, the current progress of the patient or any other relevant info.It also becomes more shot in the dark like when they start rambling about studies without discussing any context of those studies. Like when the study was done, how many NFL players it covered, what specific course of action was taken in each case, variability in recovery time, etc. For instance, he neglected to mention Marques Colston coming back in just two weeks. Stats lie and crappy doctors looking to get their names in the news use those lying statistics. Would this guy be getting the same media play if he said the 4-6 week timetable was right? No way.
jeez and here i was hoping he made it back to me in the 2nd
actually, Rogers had a plate put in the one he broke first, and then in his first preseason action the next year he broke the other one. totally freak situations in both cases (the first was in practice). Frankly, i'm amazed more NFL players don't break this bone - it's not a strong one and they go down hard on their shoulders all the time.
Wolverine Matthews? I'd take a flyer...
Personal foul, number 24, offense, slashing. 15 yards, repeat first down.
I'm probably going to take him at the 1st/2nd turn. This isn't an injury to his legs. He's going to be able to run and cut just as well as he would have pre-injury. This injury should not affect his performance post-injury at all other than if he's failed to stay in condition.
The reason he underwent surgery was to decrease the length of time he'd be in pain and unable to regain full range of motion. The limiting factor will continue to be how quickly the bone itself heals and when the team and medical staff is willing to clear him. We still don't know the severity of the fracture and how extensive the surgery was. We still don't know how close to the usual bone healing time (often on the long end of 4-6 weeks) they'll be willing to clear him.Definitely good signs here, but don't take "ahead of schedule" to mean too much yet.
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Jones Drew fell to 3.11 as well. People are afraid of those ?? going into drafts.
Well Mathews we know is only out a few weeks. MJD, who knows when he even reports.
When I was 19 I suffered two compression fractures in my spine from a car accident. After a week in the hospital, the doctors sent me home with a back brace and a bottle of percocet(plus refills). Being young and prideful I didn't take a single pill and suffered through the pain. Less than a year later I fractured my collarbone playing basketball...I was using that percocet as soon as I got home and it DID NOT last long. It's a painful SOB.
Best post in this thread. Everyone's got an opinion, some are just more informed than others.
shhh im still trying to sell his keeper rights.
