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Ryan Mathews likely out until October (1 Viewer)

Got him at 3.10 in a 10 team league and 3.12 in a 12 team league. Great value, but tough to strategize around. Last night I took McFadden and Murray at the 1/2 turn, and he was staring me in the face at the end of the third. Had to take him, but now I'm weak at WR.

 
When Mathews is healthy, it's going to be hard to beat a team with a Foster, Rice, or McCoy and Mathews combo (granted the rest of their team is solid.)
In my keep-4 keeper league I've got Foster, McFadden, Mathews (2RB+flex). Injury risks there for sure, but if they all hit, thats 3 top 10 RB. Love it, but injury risk is always there.
 
Got him at 3.10 in a 10 team league and 3.12 in a 12 team league. Great value, but tough to strategize around. Last night I took McFadden and Murray at the 1/2 turn, and he was staring me in the face at the end of the third. Had to take him, but now I'm weak at WR.
I took him at the 2.12 spot in a league where is it start 2RB/2WR and 1 flex that can be Rb or WR. So I knew the wideouts would be deep. I ended up with Harvin, Bowe, and Wayne at WR. Pretty solid I thought.
 
Is anyone worried LeRon McClain could play the Tolbert role eventually?
Im not worried, I expect them to have a short yardage and goal line complimentary back, whether its Mcclain or not I have no idea, but if you ever want Mathews to run in the middle of the field then you need to preserve his delicate wet paper frame.
 
Is anyone worried LeRon McClain could play the Tolbert role eventually?
the worry isn't this...the worries are a) missing games to start the season and b) inability to stay on the fieldToo many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
 
When Mathews is healthy, it's going to be hard to beat a team with a Foster, Rice, or McCoy and Mathews combo (granted the rest of their team is solid.)
In my keep-4 keeper league I've got Foster, McFadden, Mathews (2RB+flex). Injury risks there for sure, but if they all hit, thats 3 top 10 RB. Love it, but injury risk is always there.
I kept McFadden and Matthews in my keep-6 league (start just 2 RBs). I used my two 1st rounders to draft BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Donald Brown, hoping they'll be sufficient if either or both of my starters go down...
 
'LHUCKS said:
'Macdaddy_2004 said:
Is anyone worried LeRon McClain could play the Tolbert role eventually?
the worry isn't this...the worries are a) missing games to start the season and b) inability to stay on the fieldToo many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
This is similar to another thread I added. The question here is if you for example have Chris Johnson and DeMarco Murray, should you jump all over Mathews in 4th and sacarifice WR depth when you can start 3RB?
 
'LHUCKS said:
'Macdaddy_2004 said:
Is anyone worried LeRon McClain could play the Tolbert role eventually?
the worry isn't this...the worries are a) missing games to start the season and b) inability to stay on the fieldToo many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
This is similar to another thread I added. The question here is if you for example have Chris Johnson and DeMarco Murray, should you jump all over Mathews in 4th and sacarifice WR depth when you can start 3RB?
in the 4th, YES!!!!!!
 
'LHUCKS said:
Too many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
Like who? Just curious as to what "studs" are available when Mathews is around. Lynch? Murray?
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000048392/article/san-diego-chargers-have-options-in-replacing-ryan-mathewsEntering training camp last month, Turner said Mathews was in the best shape of his career and should pile up bigger carry and scoring numbers this season because he'd get additional snaps near the goal line.
And then he broke his clavicle after 1 preseason play. I guess they can try to run Matthews at the goal line, seems like a really stupid idea to me if you want to keep him on the field for a decent part of the season.Last year there were 85 red zone looks for RBs (according to FBG stats) with the Chargers. Matthews got 21 of them.I think McClain gets the bulk of the short yardage work.
 
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Same situation except I give up a 14th round pick. Seems like a no brainer for my situation. For you, its a much closer, but I think it comes down to whether you want to fish or cut bait. If you want him, then keep him, but if you have reservations and don't trust him then let him go.

This is such a difficult situation. Injured collarbone >>>>>>>>> Injured legs for a RB, sure. So that's a plus. And if you think you can get by without him for the first 2 or 3 weeks, I'd keep him. But he's just one of those guys you will always hold your breath with. McFadden is the other one who comes to mind immediately.I have to decide in the next two days whether to keep Mathews and give up a 4th round pick. It's a QB-heavy league, so it's not a no-brainer one way or the other. Any of you in a similar situation, and if so, which way are you leaning?
 
I decided to hold onto him. I drafted him originally because I saw a special talent.

Let's all keep our fingers crossed and hopefully we'll enjoy the ride. :hifive:

 
Same situation except I give up a 14th round pick. Seems like a no brainer for my situation. For you, its a much closer, but I think it comes down to whether you want to fish or cut bait. If you want him, then keep him, but if you have reservations and don't trust him then let him go.

This is such a difficult situation. Injured collarbone >>>>>>>>> Injured legs for a RB, sure. So that's a plus. And if you think you can get by without him for the first 2 or 3 weeks, I'd keep him. But he's just one of those guys you will always hold your breath with. McFadden is the other one who comes to mind immediately.

I have to decide in the next two days whether to keep Mathews and give up a 4th round pick. It's a QB-heavy league, so it's not a no-brainer one way or the other. Any of you in a similar situation, and if so, which way are you leaning?
You drafted Ryan Mathews in the 14th round at some point? Was it while he was a freshman at Fresno?
 
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.

 
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
 
I drafted him early 2nd expecting him to miss 2-3 games total this year. I think his upside when he's in the game is very much worth it given the lack of workhorse RBs.

I also took Richardson cheap, and Nicks cheap, and Miles Austin cheap, so I'm loaded up on guys in that league that might start slow but have the talent/situation to be great after a few weeks. We'll see how it turns out.

 
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'LHUCKS said:
Too many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
Like who? Just curious as to what "studs" are available when Mathews is around. Lynch? Murray?
Murray ain't a stud by any stretch of the imagination. Not yet at least.
Agreed. But is Matthews? I didnt draft either of them. Both very talented. Both cant stay on the field.
 
'LHUCKS said:
Too many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
Like who? Just curious as to what "studs" are available when Mathews is around. Lynch? Murray?
Murray ain't a stud by any stretch of the imagination. Not yet at least.
Agreed. But is Matthews? I didnt draft either of them. Both very talented. Both cant stay on the field.
MJD?
 
'LHUCKS said:
Too many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
Like who? Just curious as to what "studs" are available when Mathews is around. Lynch? Murray?
Murray ain't a stud by any stretch of the imagination. Not yet at least.
Agreed. But is Matthews? I didnt draft either of them. Both very talented. Both cant stay on the field.
MJD?
I recently snagged both Mathews and MJD in a draft. Was able to get Jennings later. Hoping Jennings-Arian can get me through until I can unleash my full arsenal on the league.
 
'LHUCKS said:
Too many other studs going where Matthews is being drafted for me to take on that kind of risk.
Like who? Just curious as to what "studs" are available when Mathews is around. Lynch? Murray?
Murray ain't a stud by any stretch of the imagination. Not yet at least.
Agreed. But is Matthews? I didnt draft either of them. Both very talented. Both cant stay on the field.
MJD?
I recently snagged both Mathews and MJD in a draft. Was able to get Jennings later. Hoping Jennings-Arian can get me through until I can unleash my full arsenal on the league.
I honestly think this is a brilliant draft strategy and wish i had thought of it!!!
 
'Raider Nation said:
'Badgers Fan said:
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
I actually think it's good for our fantasy teams. Let him be fully healed, then come back week 3 like an uncaged animal. He'll be ready for a full workload at that point, and can immediately be considered a strong rb1 option.
 
'Raider Nation said:
'Badgers Fan said:
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
I actually think it's good for our fantasy teams. Let him be fully healed, then come back week 3 like an uncaged animal. He'll be ready for a full workload at that point, and can immediately be considered a strong rb1 option.
You guys picking up Brown with one of your last couple of picks to get through the first two weeks?
 
thinking about it but my roster limits on RB may have been filled before the last pick with better overall contributors...but can't think of a better swing guy to spot start week on then drop onto waiver wire. Especially if for some reason Mathews improves to a GTD on Monday night and you want to wait to see what happens.

 
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'Raider Nation said:
'Badgers Fan said:
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
I actually think it's good for our fantasy teams. Let him be fully healed, then come back week 3 like an uncaged animal. He'll be ready for a full workload at that point, and can immediately be considered a strong rb1 option.
He was ready for a full workload at the start of preseason, too - the talk was that he was in the best shape of his NFL life to date - and look what happened. Don't get me wrong, I had Mathews on teams his first two years, and know how productive he can be when he is healthy and getting touches, but the guy simply has a knack for getting hurt, so while he could come back and be a top RB all year, he could just as easily pull a 2010 on us.
 
You guys picking up Brown with one of your last couple of picks to get through the first two weeks?
Brinkley>McClain>Brownimo, but I'm not really grabbing any of them.
Wow, I have not kept up with this situation at all.
Brown seems like he'll get the first crack but I just don't think he has anything left. Brinkley always looks impressive when he gets a chance to play.Like I said though, I'm just staying away. I expect they'll split carries and probably not run much anyway.
 
The hottest ww pickup week 1 will probably be whoever carries the rock the most for the Chargers at the start of regular season. I can't figure it out and passed on them all, but there I gotta believe there is value in whoever emerges. The only Chargers back drafted in 4 of my drafts so far has been Mathews. In all of those drafts, people instead gobble up all the Redskins, Panthers, 49ers, Raiders, Cardinals, even Dolphin RBs.

 
'Raider Nation said:
'Badgers Fan said:
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
I actually think it's good for our fantasy teams. Let him be fully healed, then come back week 3 like an uncaged animal. He'll be ready for a full workload at that point, and can immediately be considered a strong rb1 option.
You guys picking up Brown with one of your last couple of picks to get through the first two weeks?
It's the start of the season with no byes. Are you telling me your #3RB on your roster isn't going to be a stronger play then whatever RBBC scrub fest the Chargers will have while Mathews is out?
 
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'Raider Nation said:
'Badgers Fan said:
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
I actually think it's good for our fantasy teams. Let him be fully healed, then come back week 3 like an uncaged animal. He'll be ready for a full workload at that point, and can immediately be considered a strong rb1 option.
You guys picking up Brown with one of your last couple of picks to get through the first two weeks?
It's the start of the season with no byes. Are you telling me your #3RB on your roster isn't going to be a stronger play then whatever RBBC scrub fest the Chargers will have while Mathews is out?
I'm not telling you anything. :shrug:
 
none of the mathews bakcups will be worth much, I think Norv will spread it out enough among brown/mcclain/brinkley that none of them will be a hot pick up

 
'Raider Nation said:
'Badgers Fan said:
Rotoworld latest report has him back right around week 3. Right on par with what most should have/did expect. It would also appear he'll be carrying a full load right away. I think round 2 is fair value for him. Higher is a risk but could pay off. Any lower is a steal.
Yep, reports everywhere that he is OUT week 1. Bad for our fantasy teams... good for the Raiders. :)
I actually think it's good for our fantasy teams. Let him be fully healed, then come back week 3 like an uncaged animal. He'll be ready for a full workload at that point, and can immediately be considered a strong rb1 option.
You guys picking up Brown with one of your last couple of picks to get through the first two weeks?
I've got him on my bench but basically it's for a "Why the hell not?" kind of reason. I have no plans of starting him. HOWEVER, let's say he gets like 12 carries and 4 catches week 1, or more, then in that case he will receive strong flex consideration. So long story short, he's a stash just to see what his role is/how he does
 
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none of the mathews bakcups will be worth much, I think Norv will spread it out enough among brown/mcclain/brinkley that none of them will be a hot pick up
IF someone wanted to take a round 20 flyer on one of those guys, who would you take? I've always like McClain from his Raven days. Brown seemed washed up last year. I don't anything about Brinkley.
 
Info from tonight's game (so far):

With the first team:

McClain & Brown started in the backfield together. On the 1st play McClain got a short pass. On 3rd and short they brought in Jackie Battle to pick up the short yardage (he did). Since then it's been all Brown in single back sets, including passing situations.

 
Brown looking pretty good into the 2nd Q, some decent runs and receptions. McClain got a single back look and a carry while Brown was getting a breather, gained some decent yards.

 
Thanks for the updates Groovus.

FYI- In the mock auctions I've been doing today Mathews consistently goes for $40 plus (12 team $200 cap). If that happens in my real draft it will throw a monkey wrench in my plans.

 
Battle, Baker and Hester getting the 2nd team reps to close out the 2nd quarter.

 
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Battle picks up a 3rd and 1 behind Hester. Charger announcers (Fouts and Billy Ray Smith) talking about how it'd be nice to have a guy like Battle on the squad to pick up short yardage behind McClain's lead blocking.

 
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'zandbak said:
Got Mathews in the mid-9th round, 10-team PPR. Guppies gonna gup.
Thats actually amazingly hard to do.If they are true guppies and drafting from the auto list, then they would have eventually taken him....or usually their draft ends up on AutoDraft which would have taken him.So, to let him go to the 9th just sounds like alot of scared guppies???
 
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