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Now, that's not something you see every day.
Now, that's not something you see every day.
SEC officials said the ref was in the proper position on the field and left it at that.Wow, he looks like he purposelly slides in the direction of the runner, elevates his upperbody and drives his shoulder into the QB? Has anyone from the SEC said anything about this?
Please, could this be arranged?SEC refs could body slam Pac 10 refs
lolololLuckily he is not an NFL ref, otherwise 20k for leading with the head
Definitely not fake, I saw it live and said WTF?!? Garcia was pissed and was about to go after the refI think its fake, just like the Lebron commercials where he is making full court threes. If you look at the QB running, it looks like he cuts back for no apparent reason into the referee, and then a split second later the LSU player comes in and hits him.
In that case WTF?Definitely not fake, I saw it live and said WTF?!? Garcia was pissed and was about to go after the refI think its fake, just like the Lebron commercials where he is making full court threes. If you look at the QB running, it looks like he cuts back for no apparent reason into the referee, and then a split second later the LSU player comes in and hits him.
Yep, definitely not fake. It happened on national TV this past weekend.Definitely not fake, I saw it live and said WTF?!? Garcia was pissed and was about to go after the refI think its fake, just like the Lebron commercials where he is making full court threes. If you look at the QB running, it looks like he cuts back for no apparent reason into the referee, and then a split second later the LSU player comes in and hits him.
Wouldn't life be imitating art in this case?That play reminded me of one of the new Buffalo Wild Wings commercials. Talk about Art imitating Life!
+1LSU fan here. Saw it live.Yep, definitely not fake. It happened on national TV this past weekend.Definitely not fake, I saw it live and said WTF?!? Garcia was pissed and was about to go after the refI think its fake, just like the Lebron commercials where he is making full court threes. If you look at the QB running, it looks like he cuts back for no apparent reason into the referee, and then a split second later the LSU player comes in and hits him.
For all you who saw this live, what were the broadcasters saying? How about the coaches? Did the camera come back to the ref after that play, or was this something that wasn't really noticed (which I would find hard to believe).+1LSU fan here. Saw it live.Yep, definitely not fake. It happened on national TV this past weekend.Definitely not fake, I saw it live and said WTF?!? Garcia was pissed and was about to go after the refI think its fake, just like the Lebron commercials where he is making full court threes. If you look at the QB running, it looks like he cuts back for no apparent reason into the referee, and then a split second later the LSU player comes in and hits him.
from what I've heard of southern football announcers, they were probably also restrained from going after the ref.For all you who saw this live, what were the broadcasters saying? How about the coaches? Did the camera come back to the ref after that play, or was this something that wasn't really noticed (which I would find hard to believe).+1LSU fan here. Saw it live.Yep, definitely not fake. It happened on national TV this past weekend.Definitely not fake, I saw it live and said WTF?!? Garcia was pissed and was about to go after the refI think its fake, just like the Lebron commercials where he is making full court threes. If you look at the QB running, it looks like he cuts back for no apparent reason into the referee, and then a split second later the LSU player comes in and hits him.
I have watched it 3 times, and the Burger King guy never comes running out
You really think that he was on the take and THIS is how he chose to do it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was the ref most responsible for calling holding in the trenches, right? Wouldn't it be ten times easier and ten times less likely to get caught if he just made some bad holding calls or ignored some since people are always saying "You could call holding on every play if you wanted to."?That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
He was doing more than protecting himself. He clearly steps into the runner's path and unloads. One of the more bizarre football highlights I've seen in recent years.On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
Your damn right I was. I am sick and tired of getting run over by these young punks in the SEC. My crew and I had to send a message so i droped him like a bad habbit. See if they run another draw play and try and use me as a pick again.EBF said:He was doing more than protecting himself. He clearly steps into the runner's path and unloads. One of the more bizarre football highlights I've seen in recent years.livetogo4sub4 said:On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
I think the reality was probably that he was trying to get out of the way, but he doesn't know which way the QB is going to cut; he's positioning himself so he can dodge in either direction. (Which, in fact, is the same thing a linebacker does, except the linebacker is trying to dodge in the same direction as the QB, while the ref should be dodging in the opposite direction).Then when he realized he waited too long and the impact was inevitable, he turned his body so he wouldn't get a face full of helmet.EBF said:He was doing more than protecting himself. He clearly steps into the runner's path and unloads. One of the more bizarre football highlights I've seen in recent years.
Agreed...if you watch, it looks like he is hesitant on where to go...then takes the steps anticipating the QB to move a certain way...which he moved differently. I don't think he intended to just line him up with the forearm shiver.I think the reality was probably that he was trying to get out of the way, but he doesn't know which way the QB is going to cut; he's positioning himself so he can dodge in either direction. (Which, in fact, is the same thing a linebacker does, except the linebacker is trying to dodge in the same direction as the QB, while the ref should be dodging in the opposite direction).Then when he realized he waited too long and the impact was inevitable, he turned his body so he wouldn't get a face full of helmet.EBF said:He was doing more than protecting himself. He clearly steps into the runner's path and unloads. One of the more bizarre football highlights I've seen in recent years.
Can you verify if the claims that he used to play linebacker in college are true?livetogo4sub4 said:On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
I agree that at game speed from the usual angle this doesn't look like a premeditated act at all.However, I don't think the ref tried very hard to get out of the way as he clearly delivered a hit (a little more than just protecting his body)... and I think it's pretty evident that he hunted him down after a certain point.Agreed...if you watch, it looks like he is hesitant on where to go...then takes the steps anticipating the QB to move a certain way...which he moved differently. I don't think he intended to just line him up with the forearm shiver.I think the reality was probably that he was trying to get out of the way, but he doesn't know which way the QB is going to cut; he's positioning himself so he can dodge in either direction. (Which, in fact, is the same thing a linebacker does, except the linebacker is trying to dodge in the same direction as the QB, while the ref should be dodging in the opposite direction).Then when he realized he waited too long and the impact was inevitable, he turned his body so he wouldn't get a face full of helmet.EBF said:He was doing more than protecting himself. He clearly steps into the runner's path and unloads. One of the more bizarre football highlights I've seen in recent years.
Good points, and you're right about how he'd do it, but crazier things have happened. And the fact is, that was purposeful. I can't believe people see it any other way, that's silly. Regardless, I'd love to see what kind of record or pattern (whatever you want to call it) he's had over the years. Of course, we'll never know, but it would be interesting if nothing else. And you don't think there are refs out there on take?Assani Fisher said:You really think that he was on the take and THIS is how he chose to do it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was the ref most responsible for calling holding in the trenches, right? Wouldn't it be ten times easier and ten times less likely to get caught if he just made some bad holding calls or ignored some since people are always saying "You could call holding on every play if you wanted to."?Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
Yes, he did play football at the collegiate level for Kentucky from 1968-1970. Three-year starter at linebacker and first African-American captain of an SEC football team. He attended Manual High School in Louisville and the link below is from their alumni HOF page. A few months a go I found a biography of him on UK's athletic page but can't find that now.http://www.manualalumni.org/h-l.htmCan you verify if the claims that he used to play linebacker in college are true?livetogo4sub4 said:On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?
Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
Thank you sir!He certainly hasn't "lost it"Yes, he did play football at the collegiate level for Kentucky from 1968-1970. Three-year starter at linebacker and first African-American captain of an SEC football team. He attended Manual High School in Louisville and the link below is from their alumni HOF page. A few months a go I found a biography of him on UK's athletic page but can't find that now.http://www.manualalumni.org/h-l.htmCan you verify if the claims that he used to play linebacker in college are true?livetogo4sub4 said:On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?
Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.
Soccer players/refs wear such funny uniforms I didn't even realize it was a ref that grabbed the ball...Hahaha
reminds me of this
Yes, he did play football at the collegiate level for Kentucky from 1968-1970. Three-year starter at linebacker and first African-American captain of an SEC football team. He attended Manual High School in Louisville and the link below is from their alumni HOF page. A few months a go I found a biography of him on UK's athletic page but can't find that now.http://www.manualalumni.org/h-l.htmCan you verify if the claims that he used to play linebacker in college are true?livetogo4sub4 said:On a serious note, I know the ref because he is a co-worker of my dad's (in his full-time job, not the part-time ref job). He is a straight dude and is pretty well respected by the SEC. He usually works a fair share of big SEC games each year. I definitely agree with the majority in this post that it does appear that he shuffles into position and appears to line up and shoulder drop the SC QB, Garcia. I've talked to my dad this morning and he said that people at work were giving him a hard time last night (as expected, I guess). He knows that it was a bad move on his part but I think more people need to realize that the guy is an Umpire. He's right in the line of danger behind the defensive line and, while I'm not a ref, I'm sure that protecting oneself is taught to these guys as a matter of defense. Nearly 90% of the youtube videos out there that depict similar content show the Umpire getting bowled over by a freight train of a RB. Cut the guy some slack. South Carolina scored a touchdown three plays later anyway so it obviously didn't have an effect on the outcome of the drive.Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:That was ridiculous. Hard to believe, actually. And the conference just shrugs it off?
Would love to see a detailed history of his calls and such, line movements on games he worked, etc.