Shaun Alexander getting love (1 Viewer)

[wannabee]

After going through much of the summer with most down on Alexander for reasons ranging to age (almost 29), Madden Curse, Super Bowl hangover, etc, I have been surprised by the recent love for Alexander outside of the FBG Shark Pool. Around the Pool, everyone is down on Alexander and leary of him, even talking about taking him no earlier than 1.04 or 1.05. But, this is not the case outside of the Pool. Here is why I say that:

1. Listening to Sirius Friday night, I caught the ACaplan and John Hansen show. Each of them had Alexander as their top RB for 2006. They dismissed the superstition and pointed out that Alexander has yet to be hurt.

2. ADP. In the ADP stats at FBG, dated 7/21, Alexander has passed LT as RB2. This changed from the last ADP listing.

Are we, in the Shark Pool and FBG, overly down on Alexander or the most enlightened?

 

[lebowski]

I think at this point the top 3 are SOOO close that any of them could be #1.

 

[Sigfawn]

After going through much of the summer with most down on Alexander for reasons ranging to age (almost 29), Madden Curse, Super Bowl hangover, etc, I have been surprised by the recent love for Alexander outside of the FBG Shark Pool. Around the Pool, everyone is down on Alexander and leary of him, even talking about taking him no earlier than 1.04 or 1.05. But, this is not the case outside of the Pool. Here is why I say that:

1. Listening to Sirius Friday night, I caught the ACaplan and John Hansen show. Each of them had Alexander as their top RB for 2006. They dismissed the superstition and pointed out that Alexander has yet to be hurt.

2. ADP. In the ADP stats at FBG, dated 7/21, Alexander has passed LT as RB2. This changed from the last ADP listing.

Are we, in the Shark Pool and FBG, overly down on Alexander or the most enlightened?

Of the 100s of people woh have posted on the matter, I seem to recall about 2 who said portis was ahead of SA on their rankings. Beyond that, it's pretty much agreed he's a top 3 pick. I'm not sure how much more love you can give.

 

[Scrooloose]

With the latest loss in KC, SA moves ahead of LJ from here on out.

It was close to begin with but once the OL starts disinegrating...

Let the Downfall begin.

 

[lebowski]

With the latest loss in KC, SA moves ahead of LJ from here on out.

It was close to begin with but once the OL starts disinegrating...

Let the Downfall begin.

But Alexander lost a major piece of his OL as well. Should we ignor that? If you think this has a huge impact on LJ , then it has too for Alexander as well. It makes no sense to have it affect only LJ.

 

[wannabee]

But, this is the top RB last year. LT, in most leagues, has never finished better than top 3 and LJ has question marks, too. I do not understand those that say that Alexander is top 3 and that is enough love.

In response to the Portis love, there is more than we realize that like Portis more than Alexander. Also, one of the staff, Cecil Lammey has Alexander ranked 5th in redraft rankings. Further, not one staff has Alexander ranked as RB1.

 

[lebowski]

Further, not one staff has Alexander ranked as RB1.

I noticed that too! Thus this thread.

 

[mlball77]

LJ also lost a good FB, and has a new HC and OC... these all effect him a bit as well. Is he #3 now? I don't know, but all of these factors shouldn't be totally dismissed.

 

[wannabee]

Further, not one staff has Alexander ranked as RB1.

I noticed that too! Thus this thread.

good point. I was going more on the general feeling that either the Shark Pool (and FBG) are underrating Alexander or are in front of the curve with the demise of Alexander.

 

[Scrooloose]

With the latest loss in KC, SA moves ahead of LJ from here on out.

It was close to begin with but once the OL starts disinegrating...

Let the Downfall begin.

But Alexander lost a major piece of his OL as well. Should we ignor that? If you think this has a huge impact on LJ , then it has too for Alexander as well. It makes no sense to have it affect only LJ.

Actually they lost Welbourn on the other side also. And Will Shields has been contemplating retirement too. Will the Roaf move help him decide too.I do agree that losing Hutchinson will hurt, but KC just seems to be falling apart.

Plus OC Suanders is gone too. Herm said he wouldnt change the offense but how well does the nes coordinator know these players?

 

[wannabee]

But, this is the top RB last year. LT, in most leagues, has never finished better than top 3 and LJ has question marks, too. I do not understand those that say that Alexander is top 3 and that is enough love.

In response to the Portis love, there is more than we realize that like Portis more than Alexander. Also, one of the staff, Cecil Lammey has Alexander ranked 5th in redraft rankings. Further, not one staff has Alexander ranked as RB1.

The RB5 ranking by Cecil is in the free FBG rankings. In the latest subscriber rankings Cecil's ranks are not listed, but Maurile has Alexander at RB4.

 

[lebowski]

Ive been lucky enough to have Alexander on my team 2 out of the last 3 years. He has been a friggin' STUD and I would definately consider him at #1. Take it for what it is worth I currently have the order as LT, SA, LJ. However they are within 6 FP of each other. If I had the #1 pick I don't know who I would go with this year.

 

[CapnJB]

But Alexander lost a major piece of his OL as well. Should we ignor that?

Womack & Ashworth >>>>> Turley & Black(??)

 

[mad sweeney]

With the latest loss in KC, SA moves ahead of LJ from here on out.

It was close to begin with but once the OL starts disinegrating...

Let the Downfall begin.

But Alexander lost a major piece of his OL as well. Should we ignor that? If you think this has a huge impact on LJ , then it has too for Alexander as well. It makes no sense to have it affect only LJ.

True, but he still has 3 pro-bowlers left to block for him, including the best lineman in the game Walter Jones (also Tobeck and Strong). LJ lost his stud FB as well as Roaf. Based on blocker loss, SA is ahead 1:2. This is a really close call and I have the #1! Can't get a trade so looks like I have to make the choice.

 

[lebowski]

This is a really close call and I have the #1! Can't get a trade so looks like I have to make the choice.

Me too in one league. I'm really struggling with what to do. LJ just doesn't have enough experience for me to make a good judgement. LT is probably the most talented back in the league right now. LJ is probably close but I'm not sure just yet. Alexander is Mr. Steady and is talented in his own right. Not to mention he has the easiest schedule in the league It's so close for me right now I may have to flip a coin. Preseason has a way to go so maybe some things will be sorted out even more in the next couple of weeks.

 

[bocksheesh]

It's very close between the Big Three - LT2, SA, and LJ.

Before Roaf retired, I would have given the edge to LJ. With Roaf retired, it seems like a tossup.

And for me, the tie breaker between the three comes down to one thing: schedule, schedule, schedule.

The Chiefs and Chargers face a stiff strength of schedule. I believe SD is the worst against the run, and KC is right down there.

By contrast, at the end of the day in Seattle, the 'Hawks will face Arizona, SF and St. Louis 6 times as well as GB, Oakland, KC and Detroit. And that's not even including the NYG or Minnesota.

By my estimation, that's minimum 6, maximum 10 moderate to easy games. The only rough Defenses on Seattle's schedule are Chicago and Denver. (Tampa Bay is in WK 17 so is a non-factor).

Alexander should have 15 TDs in those 6-10 games. Easy.

So, I have the Big 3 pretty much even. But if I had to choose, Alexander, by virtue of his softer schedule alone, gets the nod.

 

[lebowski]

It's very close between the Big Three - LT2, SA, and LJ.

Before Roaf retired, I would have given the edge to LJ. With Roaf retired, it seems like a tossup.

And for me, the tie breaker between the three comes down to one thing: schedule, schedule, schedule.

The Chiefs and Chargers face a stiff strength of schedule. I believe SD is the worst against the run, and KC is right down there.

By contrast, at the end of the day in Seattle, the 'Hawks will face Arizona, SF and St. Louis 6 times as well as GB, Oakland, KC and Detroit.

By my estimation, that's 6 minimum, 9 maximum moderate to easy games.

Alexander should have 15 TDs in those 6-9 games. Easy.

So, I have the Big 3 pretty much even. But if I had to choose, Alexander, by virtue of his softer schedule alone, gets the nod.

I'm thinking something similar but I worry about Alexander getting benched at the end of the year again. The only reason they kept him in this year was to get the rushing record and TD record.

 

[bocksheesh]

I'm thinking something similar but I worry about Alexander getting benched at the end of the year again. The only reason they kept him in this year was to get the rushing record and TD record.

I think that's a reasonable concern, but I'd balance that against the very real possibility that Seattle either doesn't clinch as early and/or is fighting other NFC teams for home field advantage.

Arizona is in Week 14. San Diego is in Week 16. Both those teams could be viable postseason teams. So Seattle may be playing with a bit more pressure this year.

And besides, I generally think trying to anticipate what's going to happen in the NFL during Weeks 14-16 is largely pure conjecture. Every season, a whole of scenarios will emerge that no one considered.

So I wouldn't worry about that too much.