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Shooting At Aurora, Colorado Movie Theater (1 Viewer)

I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
Don't try to make sense of nonsense.
 
I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
I suspect the shooter isn't exactly a rational human being.
 
I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
I suspect the shooter isn't exactly a rational human being.
Nope and it sounds like the mom saw the signs. Unfortunately it seems little can be done until the freak's brain shorts out completely, whcih is of course, too late.
 
Used to live in Aurora for quite a few years and have many friends there.

Anywhere yet to find out names of victims or is that going to be slow to be released?

 
Sad and there seems to be no way to prevent this type of terror attack.
What type of weapon did he use?
Don't turn this into a gun debate, because it's pointless. Guy could've just as easily thrown in some pipe bombs, or rammed his car into the line of people waiting to get in.
While I agree this isn't the place, that is a discussion worth having.
Give me a break with the sanctimonious posturing going on here!!! Do any of you honestly believe that, within a few hours, this isn't going to be the place for a debate on gun control, violence in the media, kids unchecked abuse of violent video games from a young age, and political posturing on both sides of the isle? This is a sad, sad deal for everyone involved, but seriously....how is it any sadder than a lot of the crap that goes on and has gone on in human history. Hey, I bet you didn't know that there have been close to 300 homicides in Chicago alone this year, including a 3 yr old, a 7 year old, and scores of teens! Funny, but I am not seeing many condolences going out to those peeps. ( probably because most of them are black)

Believe me, they are already talking about the difference between auto and non auto guns on NBC. This is for sure going to turn into a debate. You should be glad you live in a country where you are still allowed to do that.
And that we have people like you to tell us how glad we should be. Of course a gun debate is going to follow. This is another useless mass murder employing guns. You have to be brain damaged to not see the logic in examining the gun culture of this country when things like this happen.
Well...maybe we should start with the culture of violence found in our video games. Then perhaps we should move to liberal judges and prosecutors inability to put people who break the gun laws that are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS in prison for life when caught. That wouldn't happen though, you would ban guns and then continue to give the criminals a slap on the wrist when caught as long as they didn't kill or shoot anyone.
 
Sad and there seems to be no way to prevent this type of terror attack.
What type of weapon did he use?
Don't turn this into a gun debate, because it's pointless. Guy could've just as easily thrown in some pipe bombs, or rammed his car into the line of people waiting to get in.
While I agree this isn't the place, that is a discussion worth having.
Give me a break with the sanctimonious posturing going on here!!! Do any of you honestly believe that, within a few hours, this isn't going to be the place for a debate on gun control, violence in the media, kids unchecked abuse of violent video games from a young age, and political posturing on both sides of the isle? This is a sad, sad deal for everyone involved, but seriously....how is it any sadder than a lot of the crap that goes on and has gone on in human history. Hey, I bet you didn't know that there have been close to 300 homicides in Chicago alone this year, including a 3 yr old, a 7 year old, and scores of teens! Funny, but I am not seeing many condolences going out to those peeps. ( probably because most of them are black)

Believe me, they are already talking about the difference between auto and non auto guns on NBC. This is for sure going to turn into a debate. You should be glad you live in a country where you are still allowed to do that.
And that we have people like you to tell us how glad we should be. Of course a gun debate is going to follow. This is another useless mass murder employing guns. You have to be brain damaged to not see the logic in examining the gun culture of this country when things like this happen.
Well...maybe we should start with the culture of violence found in our video games. Then perhaps we should move to liberal judges and prosecutors inability to put people who break the gun laws that are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS in prison for life when caught. That wouldn't happen though, you would ban guns and then continue to give the criminals a slap on the wrist when caught as long as they didn't kill or shoot anyone.
You're a piece of #### for turning this into a political crusade against liberals. Especially after a right-wing wacko gun nut blows up a theater full of innocents.
 
Used to live in Aurora for quite a few years and have many friends there.Anywhere yet to find out names of victims or is that going to be slow to be released?
No list yet. I was listening to a sportstalk station this morning on the way in to work and they said that one of their former interns had been shot. They didn't give her name but said she was female and worked there for a year. I think it may have been Katie :( . That's the only thing close to an ID I've heard so far.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
 
Sad and there seems to be no way to prevent this type of terror attack.
What type of weapon did he use?
Don't turn this into a gun debate, because it's pointless. Guy could've just as easily thrown in some pipe bombs, or rammed his car into the line of people waiting to get in.
While I agree this isn't the place, that is a discussion worth having.
Give me a break with the sanctimonious posturing going on here!!! Do any of you honestly believe that, within a few hours, this isn't going to be the place for a debate on gun control, violence in the media, kids unchecked abuse of violent video games from a young age, and political posturing on both sides of the isle? This is a sad, sad deal for everyone involved, but seriously....how is it any sadder than a lot of the crap that goes on and has gone on in human history. Hey, I bet you didn't know that there have been close to 300 homicides in Chicago alone this year, including a 3 yr old, a 7 year old, and scores of teens! Funny, but I am not seeing many condolences going out to those peeps. ( probably because most of them are black)

Believe me, they are already talking about the difference between auto and non auto guns on NBC. This is for sure going to turn into a debate. You should be glad you live in a country where you are still allowed to do that.
And that we have people like you to tell us how glad we should be. Of course a gun debate is going to follow. This is another useless mass murder employing guns. You have to be brain damaged to not see the logic in examining the gun culture of this country when things like this happen.
Well...maybe we should start with the culture of violence found in our video games. Then perhaps we should move to liberal judges and prosecutors inability to put people who break the gun laws that are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS in prison for life when caught. That wouldn't happen though, you would ban guns and then continue to give the criminals a slap on the wrist when caught as long as they didn't kill or shoot anyone.
You're a piece of #### for turning this into a political crusade against liberals. Especially after a right-wing wacko gun nut blows up a theater full of innocents.
yeah, you're not helping either.
 
Sad and there seems to be no way to prevent this type of terror attack.
What type of weapon did he use?
Don't turn this into a gun debate, because it's pointless. Guy could've just as easily thrown in some pipe bombs, or rammed his car into the line of people waiting to get in.
While I agree this isn't the place, that is a discussion worth having.
Give me a break with the sanctimonious posturing going on here!!! Do any of you honestly believe that, within a few hours, this isn't going to be the place for a debate on gun control, violence in the media, kids unchecked abuse of violent video games from a young age, and political posturing on both sides of the isle? This is a sad, sad deal for everyone involved, but seriously....how is it any sadder than a lot of the crap that goes on and has gone on in human history. Hey, I bet you didn't know that there have been close to 300 homicides in Chicago alone this year, including a 3 yr old, a 7 year old, and scores of teens! Funny, but I am not seeing many condolences going out to those peeps. ( probably because most of them are black)

Believe me, they are already talking about the difference between auto and non auto guns on NBC. This is for sure going to turn into a debate. You should be glad you live in a country where you are still allowed to do that.
And that we have people like you to tell us how glad we should be. Of course a gun debate is going to follow. This is another useless mass murder employing guns. You have to be brain damaged to not see the logic in examining the gun culture of this country when things like this happen.
Well...maybe we should start with the culture of violence found in our video games. Then perhaps we should move to liberal judges and prosecutors inability to put people who break the gun laws that are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS in prison for life when caught. That wouldn't happen though, you would ban guns and then continue to give the criminals a slap on the wrist when caught as long as they didn't kill or shoot anyone.
Ah. I see. That is a very insightful and well-thought-out piece of insanity.
 
You're a piece of #### for turning this into a political crusade against liberals. Especially after a right-wing wacko gun nut blows up a theater full of innocents.
Ah. Irony.
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
Good lord.
 
What a horrible tragedy.I'd love to see the producers, actors and all involved with the making of the film hold a special showing of the movie again at some point in the future and invite all who were in the theater. It obviously won't heal all wounds, but it would be a great show of support.If something like that happened to me, I wonder if I could ever go to a movie theater again?
derp
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
and I would still hope they'd wait until they actually confirmed it was the same person.
 
Used to live in Aurora for quite a few years and have many friends there.Anywhere yet to find out names of victims or is that going to be slow to be released?
No list yet. I was listening to a sportstalk station this morning on the way in to work and they said that one of their former interns had been shot. They didn't give her name but said she was female and worked there for a year. I think it may have been Katie :( . That's the only thing close to an ID I've heard so far.
thanks - if you find any names out please post them here - working remotely today.
 
Used to live in Aurora for quite a few years and have many friends there.Anywhere yet to find out names of victims or is that going to be slow to be released?
No list yet. I was listening to a sportstalk station this morning on the way in to work and they said that one of their former interns had been shot. They didn't give her name but said she was female and worked there for a year. I think it may have been Katie :( . That's the only thing close to an ID I've heard so far.
Katie moved to one of the Dakotas I thought
 
Jesus, are you ####in sickos actually bringing politics into this thread?

Get the #### outta here

 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
And it would have been just as meaninglessly speculative.
 
I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
Their brains aren't wired like most people. A sociopath has a lack of conscience; they're not thinking about other people only their agenda/goal.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
and I would still hope they'd wait until they actually confirmed it was the same person.
:goodposting: Horrible example of journalism there. Completely irresponsible.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
Both sides are frantically scouring the internet trying to attach this ### hat to the other party.Both parties suck the big one with surgically altered lips.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
And it would have been just as meaninglessly speculative.
Probably but that's the game and we all know it. Get it first worry about being right later. Not saying it's good just saying I'm not surprised and I don't think it was about an attack on one group or another. Just reporters being reporters.
 
Used to live in Aurora for quite a few years and have many friends there.Anywhere yet to find out names of victims or is that going to be slow to be released?
No list yet. I was listening to a sportstalk station this morning on the way in to work and they said that one of their former interns had been shot. They didn't give her name but said she was female and worked there for a year. I think it may have been Katie :( . That's the only thing close to an ID I've heard so far.
Katie moved to one of the Dakotas I thought
I hope so. Nate was pretty devastated this morning and I know he was close with her.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
And it would have been just as meaninglessly speculative.
And unless this was an organized plot by a local political party, what party he belonged to is really irrelevant.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
God I ####### hate the media.
 
Jessica Redfield is a journalist who blogged about the shooting in Toronto. Her tweets end at the start of the movie last night. She was one of the victims. So messed up to read it all.

 
ABC called the killer's mom who hadn't heard yet and she said "you've got the right person. I need to talk to the police. I need to fly out to Colorado."

:( Sounds like she knew he is messed up.
That's ####ed up. How many more known ticking time bombs are out there?
Pretty classless on ABCs part, IMO.
How so?
What good does it do to surprise the mother of the shooter with a phone call? Either she is going to be caught by surprise and had no idea what her son did or she is going to be absolutely heart broken by what she had recently heard about her son.
That's stuff reporters do to out scoop the others. The reporters did the same with my family. And when we initially refused to talk to them they threatened to talk to all the neighbors. Which they ultimately did anyway.They aren't tactful about it. I hadn't heard a thing when I got the calls, "How do you feel about your brother's arrest?" and "Any comments on your brother's suicide?"
That's f-----d up.
 
Jessica Redfield is a journalist who blogged about the shooting in Toronto. Her tweets end at the start of the movie last night. She was one of the victims. So messed up to read it all.
yeah, someone posted a link to her blog post about the Toronto shotting earlier in this thread.horrible.
 
I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
I suspect the shooter isn't exactly a rational human being.
Nope and it sounds like the mom saw the signs. Unfortunately it seems little can be done until the freak's brain shorts out completely, whcih is of course, too late.
I wouldn't assume that. Her comment "You've got the right person." could just be a confirmation that she is indeed the mother of the shooter. And most likely she wasn't aware that her son was capable of this.

 
I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
I suspect the shooter isn't exactly a rational human being.
Nope and it sounds like the mom saw the signs. Unfortunately it seems little can be done until the freak's brain shorts out completely, whcih is of course, too late.
I wouldn't assume that. Her comment "You've got the right person." could just be a confirmation that she is indeed the mother of the shooter. And most likely she wasn't aware that her son was capable of this.
That's does sound more likely.
 
ABC already trying to link this to the Tea Party:

BRIAN ROSS: There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado. GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
And if he was on Obama's site they would have covered that as well.
and I would still hope they'd wait until they actually confirmed it was the same person.
Waiting doesn't get scoops, though. Scoops are the most important things in the universe.
 
I don't get the mentality behind this. If you're going to shoot someone for your 15 minutes of fame, why not find someone like Sandusky and shoot him? There are tons of people that don't deserve to share oxygen with the decent people of the world, why not take some of them out? Arghhh.
I suspect the shooter isn't exactly a rational human being.
Nope and it sounds like the mom saw the signs. Unfortunately it seems little can be done until the freak's brain shorts out completely, whcih is of course, too late.
I wouldn't assume that. Her comment "You've got the right person." could just be a confirmation that she is indeed the mother of the shooter. And most likely she wasn't aware that her son was capable of this.
Heard on the radio that the swat went to his house and found a lot of bad stuff. It will be more interesting about what the neighbors report.
 
I'm kind of wondering if the shooter was in a costume. Will costumes have to be banned?
Costumes are pretty clearly the problem here.
Because one can conceal a lot under a Batman rig- like the bullet-proof vest, gas mask, gun, and other stuff he had.
Probably been said but the guy was dressed in full police riot gear. They assumed it was a costume but it looked nothing like anything in batman.
 
Watched some cell phone video of people retreating from the theater. Seeing some poor kid come running out in his Batman costume...

:(

 
Jessica Redfield is a journalist who blogged about the shooting in Toronto. Her tweets end at the start of the movie last night. She was one of the victims. So messed up to read it all.
Do you have a link to the shooting in Toronto? I dont remember that one.
On my phone so tough for me to link stuff. There was a thread here about it. Google Eaton Centre shooting.
 
ABC called the killer's mom who hadn't heard yet and she said "you've got the right person. I need to talk to the police. I need to fly out to Colorado."

:( Sounds like she knew he is messed up.
That's ####ed up. How many more known ticking time bombs are out there?
Pretty classless on ABCs part, IMO.
How so?
What good does it do to surprise the mother of the shooter with a phone call? Either she is going to be caught by surprise and had no idea what her son did or she is going to be absolutely heart broken by what she had recently heard about her son.
That's stuff reporters do to out scoop the others. The reporters did the same with my family. And when we initially refused to talk to them they threatened to talk to all the neighbors. Which they ultimately did anyway.They aren't tactful about it. I hadn't heard a thing when I got the calls, "How do you feel about your brother's arrest?" and "Any comments on your brother's suicide?"
That's f-----d up.
Not that the police are much better at breaking news. Years ago I arrived home from school and there was a cop in the drive way. He saw me walking up and asked "Is this Sarah Chandler's house?" I respond "Yes."

The cop says "Tell her, that her ex-husband died in a fire in Wyoming." and backs out of the driveway.

He didn't acknowledge it if he heard me say "That's my father."

 
F'ed up people do f'ed up things. The technology used to be a maniac is less urgent than the person using that technology.
Yet in this country they almost always use guns. I wonder why that is. I wonder if it's because of the ease and convenience? There is no barrier to stop them and make them go to lengths to build improvised devices. It's curious that they don't use guns AND build improvised devices since they could kill more people that way. But then that would be inconvenient.
 
Anyone remember after 9/11, nobody wanted to fly on airplanes? It killed the airline industry for months. I wonder what this will do for the movie theaters.

Amazing how much damage a single person can do.

 
F'ed up people do f'ed up things. The technology used to be a maniac is less urgent than the person using that technology.
Yet in this country they almost always use guns. I wonder why that is. I wonder if it's because of the ease and convenience? There is no barrier to stop them and make them go to lengths to build improvised devices. It's curious that they don't use guns AND build improvised devices since they could kill more people that way. But then that would be inconvenient.
Unabomber down?
 
ABC called the killer's mom who hadn't heard yet and she said "you've got the right person. I need to talk to the police. I need to fly out to Colorado."

:( Sounds like she knew he is messed up.
That's ####ed up. How many more known ticking time bombs are out there?
Pretty classless on ABCs part, IMO.
How so?
What good does it do to surprise the mother of the shooter with a phone call? Either she is going to be caught by surprise and had no idea what her son did or she is going to be absolutely heart broken by what she had recently heard about her son.
That's stuff reporters do to out scoop the others. The reporters did the same with my family. And when we initially refused to talk to them they threatened to talk to all the neighbors. Which they ultimately did anyway.They aren't tactful about it. I hadn't heard a thing when I got the calls, "How do you feel about your brother's arrest?" and "Any comments on your brother's suicide?"
That's f-----d up.
Not that the police are much better at breaking news. Years ago I arrived home from school and there was a cop in the drive way. He saw me walking up and asked "Is this Sarah Chandler's house?" I respond "Yes."

The cop says "Tell her, that her ex-husband died in a fire in Wyoming." and backs out of the driveway.

He didn't acknowledge it if he heard me say "That's my father."
:( damn...

 

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