Shooting At Aurora, Colorado Movie Theater (2 Viewers)

[Fennis]

Went to see DKR yesterday. Between the trailers and the start of the movie, a security guard entered the theater, opened up the emergency exit to make sure no one had parked their car back there, then exited back to the lobby.

Did an alarm go off?

 

[shadyridr]

woman who lost her 6yr old daughter also lost her unborn baby :(

 

[comfortably numb]

woman who lost her 6yr old daughter also lost her unborn baby :(

Sucks.In before people complain she brought an unborn baby to a midnight showing.

 

[Mile High]

woman who lost her 6yr old daughter also lost her unborn baby :(

Not only the loss of 2 children she is really messed up. The live she had and was working to obtain is pretty much over.

 

[Rayderr]

Went to see DKR yesterday. Between the trailers and the start of the movie, a security guard entered the theater, opened up the emergency exit to make sure no one had parked their car back there, then exited back to the lobby.

Did an alarm go off?

Nope.

 

[Mario Kart]

The lady losing her unborn child and her 6-year old (apparently she does not know about the 6-year old yet) is worst thing that could happen to this lady.

This guy is not crazy either. He deserves nothing less than death. This guy's acting is terrible as well.

 

[identikit]

James Holmes Charged with 142 Counts, Including First-Degree Murder, in Colo. Theater Shooting



The man accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 others at a Colorado screening of "The Dark Knight Rises" is facing two dozen charges of first-degree murder after one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.

Ten days after allegedly shooting 12 people to death and wounding 58 others in a crowded Colorado movie theater, James Holmes, 24, was formally charged with 24 counts of first-degree murder and 116 counts of attempted murder Monday as well as a charge of using a crime enhancer and one of possessing an explosive device. The charges come as prosecutors must now begin to build a case that could result in his execution and as defense lawyers may possibly try to determine whether or not he is fit to stand trial.

Holmes' public defense lawyers filed a document on Friday showing that he had been seeing a psychiatrist at the University of Colorado just prior to the July 20 shooting. They insisted that communication between him and the doctor is legally-protected information and requested that a package that includes communication sent to the psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, be handed over to the defense. Prosecutors wanted Arapahoe County judge William Sylvester to reject the request, saying that the media reports about what was in the package, including possible diagrams of shooting plans, may have been fabricated. According to Arapahoe County District Attorney Carol Chambers, the package "hadn't been opened" at the time the news reports appeared. Attorneys argued that criteria during a hearing taking place in conjunction with Holmes' court appearance.

Meanwhile, a woman whose 6-year-old daughter was killed in the shooting suffered a miscarriage on Saturday. Ashley Moser's family said in a statement that the trauma of the shooting and the subsequent surgery caused her to lose her baby. However, prosecutors did not charge Holmes for the death of the unborn baby because homicide charges in Colorado only apply to those "who had been born and alive," defense attorney and former prosecutor Karen Steinhauser told the Associated Press.

My link

 

[cstu]

However, prosecutors did not charge Holmes for the death of the unborn baby because homicide charges in Colorado only apply to those “who had been born and alive,” defense attorney and former prosecutor Karen Steinhauser told the Associated Press.

Great job, Karen.

 

[cstu]

The lady losing her unborn child and her 6-year old (apparently she does not know about the 6-year old yet) is worst thing that could happen to this lady.

Jesus.

NBC reported that Moser and her daughter had, until recently, lived with Moser's father, David Moser, but that he had died two months ago, aged 65, after a 10-month battle with leukemia.

 

[Zow]

However, prosecutors did not charge Holmes for the death of the unborn baby because homicide charges in Colorado only apply to those “who had been born and alive,” defense attorney and former prosecutor Karen Steinhauser told the Associated Press.

Great job, Karen.

In some states it may qualify as an additional homicide. She was clarifying Colorado law that says differently. What's the problem?

 

[rascal]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.com/psychiatrist-called-threat-team-aurora-shooting-suspect-james-215740780--abc-news-topstories.html?_esi=1

 

[glock]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

DON'T TAKE MY GUNZZ!!11!!!

 

[glock]

woman who lost her 6yr old daughter also lost her unborn baby :(

Sucks.In before people complain she brought an unborn baby to a midnight showing.

But a 6yr old...?

 

[Rayderr]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

DON'T TAKE MY GUNZZ!!11!!!

I've said it here and I said it back in the VT thread, there should be a system in place for psychiatrists who believe a patient is a threat to put them on a no-gun list.

 

[pantagrapher]

Wow.So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?http://news.yahoo.com/psychiatrist-called-threat-team-aurora-shooting-suspect-james-215740780--abc-news-topstories.html?_esi=1

Can't be true. StrikeS2K assured us a while back that this guy never gave any indications he was loony and nobody could have seen this coming.

 

[Zow]

Is there anything to suggest they could have reasonably concluded he was a threat?

 

[ffldrew]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

 

[Mile High]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

 

[Rayderr]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

Especially after he left the school (see the 5 words after the bolded)

 

[rascal]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

 

[identikit]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

Doubtful.

 

[Mile High]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

You can still get guns with out going through back ground checks. If their intent is massacre they will find away.

 

[rascal]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

Doubtful.

See highlighted. I said could, not would, for a reason.

 

[identikit]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

Doubtful.

See highlighted. I said could, not would, for a reason.

Still doubtful.

 

[rascal]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

Doubtful.

See highlighted. I said could, not would, for a reason.

Still doubtful.

Based on what? If the psychiatrists concern had been made evident in the background check then his purchase wouldn't have gone thru. How is that not beneficial?

 

[identikit]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

You can still get guns with out going through back ground checks. If their intent is massacre they will find away.

 

[Rayderr]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

You can still get guns with out going through back ground checks. If their intent is massacre they will find away.

Plus apparently this guy knew how to make bombs. So some sort of carnage probably would've gone down one way or another.

 

[Mile High]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

You can still get guns with out going through back ground checks. If their intent is massacre they will find away.

Plus apparently this guy knew how to make bombs. So some sort of carnage probably would've gone down one way or another.

rascal is making a good point but it's along the same lines of "keeping your doors locked keeps the honest people honest".

 

[Zow]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

So we should just assume anyone seeing a psychiatrist shouldn't be allowed to own guns? And that whole medical privacy thing should be thrown out the window?You're reaching here man. What happened was a senseless tragedy which likely could never have been prevented.

 

[Zow]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

Doubtful.

See highlighted. I said could, not would, for a reason.

Still doubtful.

Based on what? If the psychiatrists concern had been made evident in the background check then his purchase wouldn't have gone thru. How is that not beneficial?

How do you know his psychiatrist was concerned that he may go on a killing spree? Also, how would the psychiatrist's concerns been "made evident" in the background check? You expect the Walmart or wherever he bought it to just call up his psychiatrist and chat for a few moments about the prospect?

 

[rascal]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

He bought the guns while still attending. They need to link psychiatrists and gun back ground checks. This is at least the second massacre that could have been prevented with such a system in place.

So we should just assume anyone seeing a psychiatrist shouldn't be allowed to own guns? And that whole medical privacy thing should be thrown out the window?You're reaching here man. What happened was a senseless tragedy which likely could never have been prevented.

Where did I equate seeing a psychiatrists to not being allowed to purchase a gun? The psychiatrists thought he was a threat and upchanneled it to the schools review board. That type of diagnosis needs to be added to the Brady Bill and expand the provision about being put into a mental facility or declared mentally incopetent.And addressing your next comment. Really? I would say the psychiatrists was concerned he was a threat because she called the Threat Team which is responsible for protecting the school from potentially violent students. How is that not something to be considered when somebody is trying to buy a gun? That is asinine. The Brady Bill requires that sellers of restricted firearms use the NICS System. I think the NICS system should be expanded.

If a psychiatrists diagnoses you as being a threat to others you shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun. And regarding the concerns about doctor/patient relationship, that has already been addressed in Whalen v. Roe. And most states also exlude that relationship for child abuses and diseases that affect the public.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

 

[ffldrew]

Wow.

So the school identified him as a problem, but that knowledge wasn't passed on to authorities to consider when he was purchasing his armory of guns.

How many massacres does it take before we get a system in place?

http://news.yahoo.co...ies.html?_esi=1

Sources have told KMGH-TV that the threat assessment team never had a formal meeting and never intervened, believing that it had no control over Holmes once he'd left the university. Documents uncovered by ABC News show that Fenton also wrote the school's policy on threat assessment.

Pretty sure this part of the process needs to be fixed

What control do they really have? They can't force him to met with them.

Especially after he left the school (see the 5 words after the bolded)

Right now we don't know the exact things/actions he said to make the psychiatrist deem him a threat - but some procedure could go into place to notify police/authorities outside the school to put him under surveillance perhaps. The other process is a possible intervention through family members to get him checked in to a facility with little or no red tape/cost- she told the threat team - it would be interesting to know what may have been shared with his family.

Some how this notification looks like a "hey I did my job - it's up to you other guys" from here.

 

[Mario Kart]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

Sure, because 8 dead and 5 injured is the same as 12 dead and 32 injured.One knife attack is exactly the same as one gun attack.

Bottom line... get rid of the guns.

 

[rascal]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

Gun >>>>>>>>>> KnifeFWIW, I am a gun owner (6 to be exact). I have no problem with people owning guns. I just don't want the lunatic down the street who has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a threat to others to have access to one.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

Gun >>>>>>>>>> KnifeFWIW, I am a gun owner (6 to be exact). I have no problem with people owning guns. I just don't want the lunatic down the street who has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a threat to others to have access to one.

That wasn't my point exactly but I agree there should be away of restricting crazies from getting guns without infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens.

 

[jamny]

too soon?

 

[Rayderr]

too soon?

I chuckled. But only because my internal dialog had Beaker being wrongly accused and he was freaking out.

 

[dnurk]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

Gun >>>>>>>>>> KnifeFWIW, I am a gun owner (6 to be exact). I have no problem with people owning guns. I just don't want the lunatic down the street who has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a threat to others to have access to one.

That wasn't my point exactly but I agree there should be away of restricting crazies from getting guns without infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens.

I think many would agree with this. But do any of you really think our federal government is remotely capable of determining who is a "crazie" and who should be able to have a gun? How about the guy who just isn't real smart and didn't understand the questions being asked? Should he get one? How about the guy who lost his wife and went through a rough spell and went on anti-depressants? What about if someone claims to have over-heard you say something that is construed as potentially violent? Do you now have to go interview with a government-approved psychologist? How do thousands of individual psychologists agree on the definition of who is fit to own? And then they have to track that? You mistakenly get put on the list and need to get that fixed? Good luck.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?hpt=hp_t3#/video/us/2012/08/08/tsr-tell-feyerick-possible-ohio-copycat-theater-shooter.cnn

What are the chances this guy was telling the truth?

 

[pantagrapher]

http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?hpt=hp_t3#/video/us/2012/08/08/tsr-tell-feyerick-possible-ohio-copycat-theater-shooter.cnnWhat are the chances this guy was telling the truth?

I think there's a decent chance he was just a gun nut with a hero fantasy. But we'll see.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

Gun >>>>>>>>>> KnifeFWIW, I am a gun owner (6 to be exact). I have no problem with people owning guns. I just don't want the lunatic down the street who has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a threat to others to have access to one.

That wasn't my point exactly but I agree there should be away of restricting crazies from getting guns without infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens.

well if all the crazies would just identify themselves then we should be all set!

 

[Dvorak]

http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?hpt=hp_t3#/video/us/2012/08/08/tsr-tell-feyerick-possible-ohio-copycat-theater-shooter.cnnWhat are the chances this guy was telling the truth?

Pretty good chance that he's telling the truth. He offered no resistance, consented to a search (stupid, stupid, stupid), has no criminal record and is married with a child.Even without a concealed carry permit, he can use the "prudent man" defense:

The weapon was carried or kept ready at hand by the actor for defensive purposes while the actor was engaged in a lawful activity and had reasonable cause to fear a criminal attack upon the actor, a member of the actor’s family, or the actor’s home, such as would justify a prudent person in going armed.

Even if found guilty, it is a misdemeanor. This is assuming that he is not prohibited due to the medication he was on.

 

[wadegarrett]

http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?hpt=hp_t3#/video/us/2012/08/08/tsr-tell-feyerick-possible-ohio-copycat-theater-shooter.cnnWhat are the chances this guy was telling the truth?

That's the theater I saw TDKR (and all my movies) at.

 

[rascal]

Teenager kills 8 , wounds 5 in China knife attack

BEIJING (AP) -- A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

Another example of how stricter gun laws do not prevent massacres. Can't get much more strict than Communist China.

Gun >>>>>>>>>> KnifeFWIW, I am a gun owner (6 to be exact). I have no problem with people owning guns. I just don't want the lunatic down the street who has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a threat to others to have access to one.

That wasn't my point exactly but I agree there should be away of restricting crazies from getting guns without infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens.

I think many would agree with this. But do any of you really think our federal government is remotely capable of determining who is a "crazie" and who should be able to have a gun? How about the guy who just isn't real smart and didn't understand the questions being asked? Should he get one? How about the guy who lost his wife and went through a rough spell and went on anti-depressants? What about if someone claims to have over-heard you say something that is construed as potentially violent? Do you now have to go interview with a government-approved psychologist? How do thousands of individual psychologists agree on the definition of who is fit to own? And then they have to track that? You mistakenly get put on the list and need to get that fixed? Good luck.

You didn't read the earlier discussions on this subject. If those people have been diagnosed by a psychologists as a threat to society, then yes, they should not be allowed to buy guns. Does that mean they can't buy one later after dealing with there issues and being cleared by a psychologists? No.

 

[pantagrapher]

http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html?hpt=hp_t3#/video/us/2012/08/08/tsr-tell-feyerick-possible-ohio-copycat-theater-shooter.cnnWhat are the chances this guy was telling the truth?

That's the theater I saw TDKR (and all my movies) at.

Would you feel safer or less safe with this guy there?

 

[timschochet]

You didn't read the earlier discussions on this subject. If those people have been diagnosed by a psychologists as a threat to society, then yes, they should not be allowed to buy guns. Does that mean they can't buy one later after dealing with there issues and being cleared by a psychologists? No.

Except that at gun shows in many states, the sales of arms can be accomplished without ANY background check whatsoever. IMO, one of the more sensible gun control laws would be to eliminate this glaring loophole; yet every time it is proposed the NRA and it's supporters fight it to the death and behave like it is the first step of a slippery slope in which all guns are seized by a dictatorship government. It is maddening that these people are so paranoid; there seems to be no reasoning with them.

 

[Rayderr]

You didn't read the earlier discussions on this subject. If those people have been diagnosed by a psychologists as a threat to society, then yes, they should not be allowed to buy guns. Does that mean they can't buy one later after dealing with there issues and being cleared by a psychologists? No.

Except that at gun shows in many states, the sales of arms can be accomplished without ANY background check whatsoever. IMO, one of the more sensible gun control laws would be to eliminate this glaring loophole; yet every time it is proposed the NRA and it's supporters fight it to the death and behave like it is the first step of a slippery slope in which all guns are seized by a dictatorship government. It is maddening that these people are so paranoid; there seems to be no reasoning with them.

I'm fine with closing that loophole. But that wouldn't have stopped this incident, or Laughner, or the VT shooter, or Columbine...

 

[Dvorak]

You didn't read the earlier discussions on this subject. If those people have been diagnosed by a psychologists as a threat to society, then yes, they should not be allowed to buy guns. Does that mean they can't buy one later after dealing with there issues and being cleared by a psychologists? No.

Except that at gun shows in many states, the sales of arms can be accomplished without ANY background check whatsoever. IMO, one of the more sensible gun control laws would be to eliminate this glaring loophole; yet every time it is proposed the NRA and it's supporters fight it to the death and behave like it is the first step of a slippery slope in which all guns are seized by a dictatorship government. It is maddening that these people are so paranoid; there seems to be no reasoning with them.

You've been told this is a myth. Every law that applies outside gun shows applies inside the doors. Stop it.

 

[timschochet]

You didn't read the earlier discussions on this subject. If those people have been diagnosed by a psychologists as a threat to society, then yes, they should not be allowed to buy guns. Does that mean they can't buy one later after dealing with there issues and being cleared by a psychologists? No.

Except that at gun shows in many states, the sales of arms can be accomplished without ANY background check whatsoever. IMO, one of the more sensible gun control laws would be to eliminate this glaring loophole; yet every time it is proposed the NRA and it's supporters fight it to the death and behave like it is the first step of a slippery slope in which all guns are seized by a dictatorship government. It is maddening that these people are so paranoid; there seems to be no reasoning with them.

You've been told this is a myth. Every law that applies outside gun shows applies inside the doors. Stop it.

Per Wikiresently, 17 states regulate private firearm sales at gun shows. Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows (California, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, Illinois and Colorado). Four states (Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania) require background checks on all handgun, but not long gun, purchasers at gun shows. Six states require individuals to obtain a permit to purchase handguns that involves a background check (Massachusetts, Michigan, North Carolina, Iowa, Nebraska). Certain counties in Florida require background checks on all private sales of handguns at gun shows. The remaining 33 states do not restrict private, intrastate sales of firearms at gun shows in any manner.[16][17]