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Snowmageddon 2022 (4 Viewers)

Huge snow totals for where? Fluffy clipper powder?
PA, NJ, NYC, S NE.Again, these are just model projections and are very rarely ever right. But they give you an idea of how strong a storm is and the track it'll take. Model output has a lot of places in the 1-2 feet range, and that's not taking into account the higher snow ratios that would occur.
I've seen forecasts of snow for Sunday into Monday for here in NoVA, but no expectations, I guess it's too far out.
Yeah. Way too far out. But those models I'm talking about have the heavy snow line down below DC.

Of course, that's only the Euro. The GFS has this storm similar to the past one. Snow north, but changing to rain. :(

 
Thanks, Sheik. As time goes by, a CO trip is looking less and less worth it this year and so am going to aim for a good dump at one of the mid-Atlantic spots. This last system had way too much wind.

 
My garage door was frozen shut this morning.
:lol:

I went to get in my car and it wouldn't open. And when it finally did open, it sounded like I shattered it.

And the one day it's icy, as I pull out of the driveway, the neighbor flags me down. I go to put down the window and... nothing. Had to open the door to talk with him.

 
Euro ensemble run pretty much shows that we can agree that there is no agreement yet for the Sunday night coastal storm. I have a horrible feeling it will end up being another miss for us, or worse, rain.

 
So with about 6 days out, the model runs are coming in just north of me or just south of me. I feel good here. For the past 3 storms, at this time range, I was smack dab in the bullseye. A guaranteed big hit that would dump a foot or more of snow. And each time, it was like a Scotty Norwood field goal attempt in the Super Bowl. Maybe not being in the bullseye is a good thing. :shrug:

 
Euro ensemble run pretty much shows that we can agree that there is no agreement yet for the Sunday night coastal storm. I have a horrible feeling it will end up being another miss for us, or worse, rain.
I've got to drive to Pittsburgh Thursday late night, and come back Sunday during the afternoon...I'm OK missing that one honestly. I've had my share of driving long distances in the snow. I'll welcome any storm after that though. Especially after we file earnings and things slow down so I can actually enjoy myself working from home.

 
30 years of driving and this morning was the worst weather I've ever driven in. Guy that got to work right after me said the same. Also ranks up there pretty high with the stupidest things I have ever done. Doesn't matter that I drive a Wrangler when I can't see 5 feet in front of the vehicle. Wanted to turn around, but couldn't see a place to do it. Should have waited an hour for daylight at least.
Don't know if you've got a 4-door or a 2-door, but honestly, my 2-door Wrangler wasn't that good in snow at speed...it'd drive through deeper snow than anything else, but the short wheel-base made it really squirrely and prone to spinning in slush/ice.

 
The Sunday night into Tuesday night storm could be epic. Could, being the operative word here. This is a different setup from the last storm that busted in SE PA and NYC, but the bust potential is just as good, if not more. So what's that mean? That means IF this happens, some places could get hammered while other places are left holding their puds again. That's a technical weather term.

 
GFS has this cut off low just sitting there from Sunday to Tuesday. That would be crazy. Even light snow would end up dropping near a foot in this scenario.

 
So Monday was bad - 7-8" or so and roads were treacherous - last night into this morning we got another several inches, but the road conditions were made MUCH worse by the horrible visibility. Worst part - now that I am here at work, the temps are dropping and winds are going to pick up this afternoon making the drive home ridiculous. For as mild a winter as we have had in Nebraska, Mother Nature is making up for it this week.....but we are supposed to be in the 40s again by the weekend. Crazy stuff.

 
So Monday was bad - 7-8" or so and roads were treacherous - last night into this morning we got another several inches, but the road conditions were made MUCH worse by the horrible visibility. Worst part - now that I am here at work, the temps are dropping and winds are going to pick up this afternoon making the drive home ridiculous. For as mild a winter as we have had in Nebraska, Mother Nature is making up for it this week.....but we are supposed to be in the 40s again by the weekend. Crazy stuff.
WDIK was just saying the same thing about his drive in. Crazy.

Where I live, it's been a weird winter in the sense that we've only gotten about 10 inches or so since Thanksgiving, yet the ground has been snow covered almost the entire winter. It's wild. And it's not like we've been bitterly cold. Just a steady cold of hovering around 32 for the most part.

 
Models are really seeing a long event here. Funny thing is, they show this system becoming a coastal storm. But not until Tuesday. And by then, it'll already have dropped a foot of more of snow across the northeast. At least that's what the models say.

Again, this storm will have a HUGE bust potential. But it also has the potential for being huge! Going to be a fun one to track. I just want some damn snow! :hot:

 
Models are really seeing a long event here. Funny thing is, they show this system becoming a coastal storm. But not until Tuesday. And by then, it'll already have dropped a foot of more of snow across the northeast. At least that's what the models say.

Again, this storm will have a HUGE bust potential. But it also has the potential for being huge! Going to be a fun one to track. I just want some damn snow! :hot:
Any thoughts on the lower Mid-Atlantic? Our forecasts just have just been giving chances of snowfall from Sunday til Tuesday. (~50%)

 
stay safe, NE-ers.

to cross-polinate threads... I got doored while riding a citibike the other day on my way to work. knocked into a snowy slush-puddle.

 
Models are really seeing a long event here. Funny thing is, they show this system becoming a coastal storm. But not until Tuesday. And by then, it'll already have dropped a foot of more of snow across the northeast. At least that's what the models say.

Again, this storm will have a HUGE bust potential. But it also has the potential for being huge! Going to be a fun one to track. I just want some damn snow! :hot:
Any thoughts on the lower Mid-Atlantic? Our forecasts just have just been giving chances of snowfall from Sunday til Tuesday. (~50%)
Models don't really have a rain snow line down yet. Because this is a cut off low, the forecast for who gets what is going to be very difficult. I'd say the forecasts won't really mean anything until about Friday night. And even then, this will probably be more of a nowcasting thing. I'm thinking it'll be more of a northern thing as opposed to your way, but that's just my gut at this point. Models have me right on the line of big snow and dusting. But we are a long way out.

 
TheIronSheik said:
The Sunday night into Tuesday night storm could be epic. Could, being the operative word here. This is a different setup from the last storm that busted in SE PA and NYC, but the bust potential is just as good, if not more. So what's that mean? That means IF this happens, some places could get hammered while other places are left holding their puds again. That's a technical weather term.
Sheik,

What's the trajectory of this storm? Is it coming in from the west over PA or coming up from the coast? I'm planning to be driving back from PA that day, so I'm praying it's coming up from the south and not basically hanging over me the whole drive back.

 
TheIronSheik said:
The Sunday night into Tuesday night storm could be epic. Could, being the operative word here. This is a different setup from the last storm that busted in SE PA and NYC, but the bust potential is just as good, if not more. So what's that mean? That means IF this happens, some places could get hammered while other places are left holding their puds again. That's a technical weather term.
Sheik,

What's the trajectory of this storm? Is it coming in from the west over PA or coming up from the coast? I'm planning to be driving back from PA that day, so I'm praying it's coming up from the south and not basically hanging over me the whole drive back.
West to east. As of right now, the snow doesn't look too bad. And what I mean by that is, it shouldn't be very heavy snow. The reason most places that see snow will (could) end up with over a foot is because it will start snowing early Sunday morning and finish snowing late Tuesday night. The further west you go, the less snow you'll see. Models show the heavy stuff really starting in C PA and points east.

So, to answer your question, based on the current models, you'd be driving through this. Sorry.

 
TheIronSheik said:
The Sunday night into Tuesday night storm could be epic. Could, being the operative word here. This is a different setup from the last storm that busted in SE PA and NYC, but the bust potential is just as good, if not more. So what's that mean? That means IF this happens, some places could get hammered while other places are left holding their puds again. That's a technical weather term.
Sheik,

What's the trajectory of this storm? Is it coming in from the west over PA or coming up from the coast? I'm planning to be driving back from PA that day, so I'm praying it's coming up from the south and not basically hanging over me the whole drive back.
West to east. As of right now, the snow doesn't look too bad. And what I mean by that is, it shouldn't be very heavy snow. The reason most places that see snow will (could) end up with over a foot is because it will start snowing early Sunday morning and finish snowing late Tuesday night. The further west you go, the less snow you'll see. Models show the heavy stuff really starting in C PA and points east.

So, to answer your question, based on the current models, you'd be driving through this. Sorry.
FML. I always end up travling in a storm. At least once a year I end up driving back from somewhere at 30 miles per hour trying not to die. This year, I already had that when I was driving back from NH in a rented Suburban and it started snowing. Now I get this one. Great. I'm sure the turnpike will be a joy near Bedford PA.

 
TheIronSheik said:
The Sunday night into Tuesday night storm could be epic. Could, being the operative word here. This is a different setup from the last storm that busted in SE PA and NYC, but the bust potential is just as good, if not more. So what's that mean? That means IF this happens, some places could get hammered while other places are left holding their puds again. That's a technical weather term.
Sheik,

What's the trajectory of this storm? Is it coming in from the west over PA or coming up from the coast? I'm planning to be driving back from PA that day, so I'm praying it's coming up from the south and not basically hanging over me the whole drive back.
West to east. As of right now, the snow doesn't look too bad. And what I mean by that is, it shouldn't be very heavy snow. The reason most places that see snow will (could) end up with over a foot is because it will start snowing early Sunday morning and finish snowing late Tuesday night. The further west you go, the less snow you'll see. Models show the heavy stuff really starting in C PA and points east.

So, to answer your question, based on the current models, you'd be driving through this. Sorry.
FML. I always end up travling in a storm. At least once a year I end up driving back from somewhere at 30 miles per hour trying not to die. This year, I already had that when I was driving back from NH in a rented Suburban and it started snowing. Now I get this one. Great. I'm sure the turnpike will be a joy near Bedford PA.
Well, look at it this way: The past three storms at this range, models were all completely wrong for the most part. This storm is going to have a very high bust potential and even though models are starting to agree on track and other details, this type of system (a cut off low) is the most difficult type of storm to predict.

So taking all that into account, I wouldn't be too worried what the models are saying until about 1 pm on Friday afternoon.

 
TheIronSheik said:
The Sunday night into Tuesday night storm could be epic. Could, being the operative word here. This is a different setup from the last storm that busted in SE PA and NYC, but the bust potential is just as good, if not more. So what's that mean? That means IF this happens, some places could get hammered while other places are left holding their puds again. That's a technical weather term.
Sheik,

What's the trajectory of this storm? Is it coming in from the west over PA or coming up from the coast? I'm planning to be driving back from PA that day, so I'm praying it's coming up from the south and not basically hanging over me the whole drive back.
West to east. As of right now, the snow doesn't look too bad. And what I mean by that is, it shouldn't be very heavy snow. The reason most places that see snow will (could) end up with over a foot is because it will start snowing early Sunday morning and finish snowing late Tuesday night. The further west you go, the less snow you'll see. Models show the heavy stuff really starting in C PA and points east.

So, to answer your question, based on the current models, you'd be driving through this. Sorry.
FML. I always end up travling in a storm. At least once a year I end up driving back from somewhere at 30 miles per hour trying not to die. This year, I already had that when I was driving back from NH in a rented Suburban and it started snowing. Now I get this one. Great. I'm sure the turnpike will be a joy near Bedford PA.
Well, look at it this way: The past three storms at this range, models were all completely wrong for the most part. This storm is going to have a very high bust potential and even though models are starting to agree on track and other details, this type of system (a cut off low) is the most difficult type of storm to predict.

So taking all that into account, I wouldn't be too worried what the models are saying until about 1 pm on Friday afternoon.
I'll check back in then. At the end of the day, I'm going either way, so I guess I shouldn't fret. It is what it is.

 
From a local forecaster on Facebook...for the DC area.

The Data says not a big storm right now but there could be frozen precip Monday that could lead to school delays/cancellations. Right now, it appears to be a wintry mix to snow situation but there is still alot of model spray out there. This does not appear to be the one but if your looking for a day off and cold precip, this may be the storm for you. If you are looking for 6 inches, I am having a hard time seeing that right now but it could happen with some adjustments. Another really complex storm somewhat similar to what happened last week. We need a simple storm...a big storm out of the Gulf of Mexico heading up the coast with cold air around. I am not seeing this right now. This storm is coming from our north and digging...not ideal but it could work. Stay tuned and prepare for disappointment
 
From a local forecaster on Facebook...for the DC area.

The Data says not a big storm right now but there could be frozen precip Monday that could lead to school delays/cancellations. Right now, it appears to be a wintry mix to snow situation but there is still alot of model spray out there. This does not appear to be the one but if your looking for a day off and cold precip, this may be the storm for you. If you are looking for 6 inches, I am having a hard time seeing that right now but it could happen with some adjustments. Another really complex storm somewhat similar to what happened last week. We need a simple storm...a big storm out of the Gulf of Mexico heading up the coast with cold air around. I am not seeing this right now. This storm is coming from our north and digging...not ideal but it could work. Stay tuned and prepare for disappointment
Yeah. The models right now have this north. Like C PA into NY state, extending east. As he points out, it could change, and I doubt very highly the track is set in stone by any means, but it'll take a lot to move it down to you. I still think that anything other than looking at models and thinking, "that's interesting", is fool's gold. The clipper that comes through tonight will change the models for tomorrow. And then Friday, once models will actually get samplings of the energy, I think we'll be able to get a clearer picture of this.

I'd say right now, I'm at the 50/50 line of getting 6 to 12 inches. But the bust chances are very high here. That's why I think writing this off and/or celebrating the models is a disaster waiting to happen. Especially after the past 3 storms to come through. I imagine every pro met is thinking "Are you kidding me?" over this storm system. :lol:

 
From a local forecaster on Facebook...for the DC area.

The Data says not a big storm right now but there could be frozen precip Monday that could lead to school delays/cancellations. Right now, it appears to be a wintry mix to snow situation but there is still alot of model spray out there. This does not appear to be the one but if your looking for a day off and cold precip, this may be the storm for you. If you are looking for 6 inches, I am having a hard time seeing that right now but it could happen with some adjustments. Another really complex storm somewhat similar to what happened last week. We need a simple storm...a big storm out of the Gulf of Mexico heading up the coast with cold air around. I am not seeing this right now. This storm is coming from our north and digging...not ideal but it could work. Stay tuned and prepare for disappointment
Yeah. The models right now have this north. Like C PA into NY state, extending east. As he points out, it could change, and I doubt very highly the track is set in stone by any means, but it'll take a lot to move it down to you. I still think that anything other than looking at models and thinking, "that's interesting", is fool's gold. The clipper that comes through tonight will change the models for tomorrow. And then Friday, once models will actually get samplings of the energy, I think we'll be able to get a clearer picture of this.

I'd say right now, I'm at the 50/50 line of getting 6 to 12 inches. But the bust chances are very high here. That's why I think writing this off and/or celebrating the models is a disaster waiting to happen. Especially after the past 3 storms to come through. I imagine every pro met is thinking "Are you kidding me?" over this storm system. :lol:
Sooo, the Isle of Long...??

 
From a local forecaster on Facebook...for the DC area.

The Data says not a big storm right now but there could be frozen precip Monday that could lead to school delays/cancellations. Right now, it appears to be a wintry mix to snow situation but there is still alot of model spray out there. This does not appear to be the one but if your looking for a day off and cold precip, this may be the storm for you. If you are looking for 6 inches, I am having a hard time seeing that right now but it could happen with some adjustments. Another really complex storm somewhat similar to what happened last week. We need a simple storm...a big storm out of the Gulf of Mexico heading up the coast with cold air around. I am not seeing this right now. This storm is coming from our north and digging...not ideal but it could work. Stay tuned and prepare for disappointment
Yeah. The models right now have this north. Like C PA into NY state, extending east. As he points out, it could change, and I doubt very highly the track is set in stone by any means, but it'll take a lot to move it down to you. I still think that anything other than looking at models and thinking, "that's interesting", is fool's gold. The clipper that comes through tonight will change the models for tomorrow. And then Friday, once models will actually get samplings of the energy, I think we'll be able to get a clearer picture of this.

I'd say right now, I'm at the 50/50 line of getting 6 to 12 inches. But the bust chances are very high here. That's why I think writing this off and/or celebrating the models is a disaster waiting to happen. Especially after the past 3 storms to come through. I imagine every pro met is thinking "Are you kidding me?" over this storm system. :lol:
Sooo, the Isle of Long...??
At this point, the IOL is pretty much sitting just slightly better than where I am.

 
Overnight models trended north. We'll have a better idea once this clipper moves through. I'm still not liking my chances, but keeping an open mind. Of the 50 European ensemble members, 2 of them had a direct hit on Philly. That's not very encouraging. Although, at least it's more than zero. I guess we'll see where the GFS goes here in a little bit. UKMET has been money this season, too, so that'll be an interesting one to see, as well.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
How's north NJ looking? Have a huge day at work monday and I don't need snow screwing it up.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
How's north NJ looking? Have a huge day at work monday and I don't need snow screwing it up.
Depends on what part of N NJ. But right now, the models have you as a fairly nice size storm. About half a foot.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
Canadian went north. Ukie stayed solid. Sampling should start tonight, but I'm going to try to reverse jinx it and say, I'm pretty sure this one goes way north of us. Some models have ice showing up for SE PA, but I'm not sold on that idea either.

The one thing to note is that models have not been great from this far out this season. But I think even if they are wrong, the trend will take them north instead of south. (Really trying hard to reverse jinx it here.)

Euro is next on the clock.

 
GFS has massive cold coming down into the northeast for Valentines's Day as well as a potential storm. I might believe the cold weather, but fart in the general direction of a storm this far out. Storm signal has been there for a while, but if I had to guess now, I'd say it goes north of me and NE gets another hit. :hot:

 
GFS has massive cold coming down into the northeast for Valentines's Day as well as a potential storm. I might believe the cold weather, but fart in the general direction of a storm this far out. Storm signal has been there for a while, but if I had to guess now, I'd say it goes north of me and NE gets another hit. :hot:
Mid February is usually stormy right? Seems like in the past the DC area has had massive storms around President's Day.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
Are you in Philly proper, or out in the burbs?

My notebook is a mess... :kicksrock:

 
Euro came in south. That puts the UKMET and the Euro on board with a PA hit. GFS and CMC more north.

Again, UKMET is the best model this season. And the Euro has been known for it's greatness for quite sometime, at least until it crapped the bed the past 3 storms.

 
GFS has massive cold coming down into the northeast for Valentines's Day as well as a potential storm. I might believe the cold weather, but fart in the general direction of a storm this far out. Storm signal has been there for a while, but if I had to guess now, I'd say it goes north of me and NE gets another hit. :hot:
Mid February is usually stormy right? Seems like in the past the DC area has had massive storms around President's Day.
February is usually one of the stormiest snow times. Maximum potential for snow (at least in my area) is Feb. 2nd. But the drop off comes quick. Because March 1st is the first day of meteorological spring.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
Are you in Philly proper, or out in the burbs?

My notebook is a mess... :kicksrock:
I'm out in the burbs. West and slightly north of the city. If you're looking at the map, I'm above the highest curve of Delaware and east of the indentation elbow of NJ. Maybe not exactly, but that's the general area. That's how I hone myself when I'm looking at the maps.

Funny thing about the notebook is I used to remember everyone on hear and everything about them. Since I've hit 40, I know I've asked the same people multiple times where they live. And a lot of times I do it in the same thread. :lol: Getting old rules.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
Are you in Philly proper, or out in the burbs?

My notebook is a mess... :kicksrock:
I'm out in the burbs. West and slightly north of the city. If you're looking at the map, I'm above the highest curve of Delaware and east of the indentation elbow of NJ. Maybe not exactly, but that's the general area. That's how I hone myself when I'm looking at the maps.

Funny thing about the notebook is I used to remember everyone on hear and everything about them. Since I've hit 40, I know I've asked the same people multiple times where they live. And a lot of times I do it in the same thread. :lol: Getting old rules.
I may be camping in your hood at Valley Forge next weekend... :shiver:

 
Euro came in south. That puts the UKMET and the Euro on board with a PA hit. GFS and CMC more north.

Again, UKMET is the best model this season. And the Euro has been known for it's greatness for quite sometime, at least until it crapped the bed the past 3 storms.
Some of the mets I know seem to think the GFS and CMC are off here and will eventually correct to the UKMET and Euro. While I'm happily optimistic, I'll believe it when I see it. My burns still sting.

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
Are you in Philly proper, or out in the burbs?

My notebook is a mess... :kicksrock:
I'm out in the burbs. West and slightly north of the city. If you're looking at the map, I'm above the highest curve of Delaware and east of the indentation elbow of NJ. Maybe not exactly, but that's the general area. That's how I hone myself when I'm looking at the maps.
I'm pretty sure you are west of NJ. I thought math, not geography was your meteorological downfall. :lol: Happy National Weatherperson's Day GB!

 
GFS went north. That's surprising. I would have thought it would have adjusted south a bit, but nope. It's north. I'm starting to think that this year is just not Philly's year for snow. :(
Are you in Philly proper, or out in the burbs?

My notebook is a mess... :kicksrock:
I'm out in the burbs. West and slightly north of the city. If you're looking at the map, I'm above the highest curve of Delaware and east of the indentation elbow of NJ. Maybe not exactly, but that's the general area. That's how I hone myself when I'm looking at the maps.
I'm pretty sure you are west of NJ. I thought math, not geography was your meteorological downfall. :lol: Happy National Weatherperson's Day GB!
Oh yeah. :bag:

ETA; Same to you, GB.

 
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Euro came in south. That puts the UKMET and the Euro on board with a PA hit. GFS and CMC more north.

Again, UKMET is the best model this season. And the Euro has been known for it's greatness for quite sometime, at least until it crapped the bed the past 3 storms.
Some of the mets I know seem to think the GFS and CMC are off here and will eventually correct to the UKMET and Euro. While I'm happily optimistic, I'll believe it when I see it. My burns still sting.
Overnight models show that the UKMET and Euro were wrong. Wah waaaah.</sad horn>. Storm will go north and almost completely miss C PA and SE PA. Another storm hyped by the models only to be completely wrong. Bad year for every model, really. Could be some ice up in NE PA and N NJ, but this looks like it's going to be fairly north. Just too much warm air.

Meteorological winter ends February 28th. So were down to about 20 some days left for something to hit us. The long range pattern does seem to be moving from a favorable pattern, to an extremely favorable pattern to end out the month. So there is hope. But it's fading fast. I kind of feel like Lloyd at the end of Dumb and Dumber when he's like, "So you're saying there's a chance." Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, probably still on me. Shame me four times, seriously, what the hell is wrong with me?

 

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