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3.11 HellToupee Kaepernick, Colin SFO QB 7:35:13 a.m.3.12 Steel Dillo Ridley, Stevan NEP RB 9:01:50 a.m.3.13 Team Legacy Luck, Andrew IND QB 9:18:53 a.m.3.14 Sigmund Bloom Cobb, Randall GBP WR 9:37:12 a.m.3.15 AhrnCityPahnder Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB 11:43:42 a.m.

Sending PM to Wood now

 
are we cool with drafting and commenting in this thread or is that gonna piss some people off.....cause sometimes I got a lot of #### to say and I need to know whats up.....

 
Stinkin Ref said:
are we cool with drafting and commenting in this thread or is that gonna piss some people off.....cause sometimes I got a lot of #### to say and I need to know whats up.....
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With the draft on MFL, I think comments here are good. When I'd subscribe to the draft thread, I didn't like getting 20 emails a day for three picks. Now I can just get a text from MFL when it is my pick.

 
1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

Peterson was a pretty easy pick although I am not expecting last years numbers. No competition for carries although I think he will see and should see a decreased workload. Additions on offense could lead to more TD's. Sniffed Foster, but with a healthy Tate I see his workload decreasing.

Couldn't pass MJD as RB16. Don't know what else to really say there.

Ryan pick came down to just wanting a piece of the Jackson/Jones/White/Gonzo pie. If I wanted a top tier QB probably had to do it here.

I contimplated several different scenerios at the 2-3 turn. I was hoping one of S. Jackson or P. Manning would make it or both. When that didn't happen I thought about going White/Fitz (Fitz still scares me a little even with Palmer). I also thought about MJD/Wilson and locking up 3 stud RB's and seeing if I could recover at other positions after that, but thought it would be too risky. Had Hernandez fell I would have had to have considered him. In the end, as I mentioned, instead of just getting one of the pieces of the ATL offense I thought by taking Ryan I would get a little piece of all of them. With only 18 picks in this draft compared to 20 in the others we have done so far, I also felt this gave a little more value to having a top level QB. I know some of the other QB's I passed on are thought of a little more, but I just couldn't get past the talent ATL has around Ryan. For me it was just a matter of preference over the other guys and I think the addition of Jackson as not only as a RB but also his ability to catch (and probably catching in some space) will just make this offense a very tough matchup. Somebody is going to have 1-1 coverage whether thats one of the WR's or Gonzo, or Jackson on a LB. Ryan's gotta be chomping at the bit. I'm probably going 2/4/6/2/2/2 so I figure I will address WR with quantity since I passed in the first 3 rounds. Some might think with only 18 picks it is more important to have studs at the WR position in a start 3 league, instead of a top QB, since you don't have much depth, and I think there is some merit to that. I just thought in a best ball league, I can ham and egg it at WR maybe a little better then doing the QBBC dance I would have to have navigated over the next few rounds had I passed on QB here. No secret I'll be focusing elsewhere from here on out, but I like this start.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

Peterson was a pretty easy pick although I am not expecting last years numbers. No competition for carries although I think he will see and should see a decreased workload. Additions on offense could lead to more TD's. Sniffed Foster, but with a healthy Tate I see his workload decreasing.

Couldn't pass MJD as RB16. Don't know what else to really say there.

Ryan pick came down to just wanting a piece of the Jackson/Jones/White/Gonzo pie. If I wanted a top tier QB probably had to do it here.

I contimplated several different scenerios at the 2-3 turn. I was hoping one of S. Jackson or P. Manning would make it or both. When that didn't happen I thought about going White/Fitz (Fitz still scares me a little even with Palmer). I also thought about MJD/Wilson and locking up 3 stud RB's and seeing if I could recover at other positions after that, but thought it would be too risky. Had Hernandez fell I would have had to have considered him. In the end, as I mentioned, instead of just getting one of the pieces of the ATL offense I thought by taking Ryan I would get a little piece of all of them. With only 18 picks in this draft compared to 20 in the others we have done so far, I also felt this gave a little more value to having a top level QB. I know some of the other QB's I passed on are thought of a little more, but I just couldn't get past the talent ATL has around Ryan. For me it was just a matter of preference over the other guys and I think the addition of Jackson as not only as a RB but also his ability to catch (and probably catching in some space) will just make this offense a very tough matchup. Somebody is going to have 1-1 coverage whether thats one of the WR's or Gonzo, or Jackson on a LB. Ryan's gotta be chomping at the bit. I'm probably going 2/4/6/2/2/2 so I figure I will address WR with quantity since I passed in the first 3 rounds. Some might think with only 18 picks it is more important to have studs at the WR position in a start 3 league, instead of a top QB, since you don't have much depth, and I think there is some merit to that. I just thought in a best ball league, I can ham and egg it at WR maybe a little better then doing the QBBC dance I would have to have navigated over the next few rounds had I passed on QB here. No secret I'll be focusing elsewhere from here on out, but I like this start.
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Drafting early is a huge advantage this year. You'll have one of the better teams by going stud rb x 2 out of the gate and still getting Ryan. MJD is as good as any back who was draft later in the first on. ADP is worth 1.5 to 2 RBs on his own.

 
For a bunch of "sharks", the run on RBs has been startling. Still elite talent at WR in a PPR league that are being passed up for RBs that stand as good a chance of finishing as RB2/3s as they do breaking out. Couldn't pass up Victor Cruz to go along with Brandon Marshall. The QB decision was a harder choice, but being at the turn I didn't want to miss out on one and went with Stafford although I toyed with Wilson. RGIII is the obvious gem but with his injury I just can't take the chance.

 
Jason Wood said:
For a bunch of "sharks", the run on RBs has been startling. Still elite talent at WR in a PPR league that are being passed up for RBs that stand as good a chance of finishing as RB2/3s as they do breaking out. Couldn't pass up Victor Cruz to go along with Brandon Marshall. The QB decision was a harder choice, but being at the turn I didn't want to miss out on one and went with Stafford although I toyed with Wilson. RGIII is the obvious gem but with his injury I just can't take the chance.
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I would have taken both Cruz/Nicks at that turn and locked up the bulk of the NYG rec production.

 
Jason Wood said:
For a bunch of "sharks", the run on RBs has been startling. Still elite talent at WR in a PPR league that are being passed up for RBs that stand as good a chance of finishing as RB2/3s as they do breaking out. Couldn't pass up Victor Cruz to go along with Brandon Marshall.
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Sometimes you have to be a ##### to the runs in these drafts. You have a great first 4 players, but the fact remains that you're going to be 80 picks deep into a draft before you even have the opportunity to take your first RB. Maybe that works out if you hit a homerun on a sleeper, but it's never worked out well for me in the past.

 
3.16 48. Jason Wood Stafford, Matthew DET QB Thu May 2 4:30:31 p.m. ET 2013 4.01 49. Jason Wood Cruz, Victor NYG WR Thu May 2 4:32:06 p.m. ET 2013 4.02 50. AhrnCityPahnder Jackson, DeSean PHI WR Thu May 2 4:32:07 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 4.03 51. Sigmund Bloom Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR Thu May 2 4:32:07 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 4.04 52. Team Legacy Crabtree, Michael SFO WR Thu May 2 5:04:27 p.m. ET 2013 4.05 53. Steel Dillo Colston, Marques NOS WR Thu May 2 5:34:38 p.m. ET 2013 4.06 54. HellToupee

Amendola, Danny NEP WR

Pm to the sniffer

 
Pander,

No doubt I'll be weak at RB, but I have used that very strategy before and won in this format. With 16 teams and the TE-2ptPPR format you are going to end up with some position that's materially weak on paper. You have to be able to find some kind of value/arbitrage at one position. I realize most will think about waiting for QB, but in a 16-teamer, in an era driven by passing, that's not something I was comfortable doing.

 
Waiting on the quarterback is more viable in the WSL and PDSL with the twenty rounds and much less so here because we have only 18.

 
4.7 J Nelson WR

4.8 L. Miller RB

4.9 R. Wayne WR

4.10 W. Welker WR

4.11 E. Decker WR

4.12 R. Mathews RB

4.13 D. Bowe WR

4.14 T. Smith WR4.15 R. Wilson QB

4.16 M. Wallace WR

5.1 G. Jennings WR

5.2 A. Brown WR

5.3 E. Lacy RB

5.4 S. Johnson WR

5.5 P. Garcon WR

5.6 R. Griffin QB

5.7 T. Romo QB

BSS owes me

 
3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

4.16 Mike Wallace WR25 MIA

5.01 Greg Jennings WR26 MIN

At the last turn snagged two WR1's. They are both going to new teams but should still see a bunch of targets. I REALLY wanted to do something different with one of these picks but just thought the WR pool would be demolished when it came back and in a start 3 I didn't want to have to be deciding between a bunch of mid level guys as my WR2 and WR3 and so on. Hoping to see the QB frenzy take off here with only 12 off the board right now. I think I have a solid foundation here.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

4.16 Mike Wallace WR25 MIA

5.01 Greg Jennings WR26 MIN

At the last turn snagged two WR1's. They are both going to new teams but should still see a bunch of targets. I REALLY wanted to do something different with one of these picks but just thought the WR pool would be demolished when it came back and in a start 3 I didn't want to have to be deciding between a bunch of mid level guys as my WR2 and WR3 and so on. Hoping to see the QB frenzy take off here with only 12 off the board right now. I think I have a solid foundation here.
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I wish that you had let one of them slide

 
An absolutely phenomenal start to the draft...I knew that with the overwrought run on RBs early one of your early picks would have a chance to grab awesome value at WR -- and you just did.

Stinkin Ref said:
3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

4.16 Mike Wallace WR25 MIA

5.01 Greg Jennings WR26 MIN

At the last turn snagged two WR1's. They are both going to new teams but should still see a bunch of targets. I REALLY wanted to do something different with one of these picks but just thought the WR pool would be demolished when it came back and in a start 3 I didn't want to have to be deciding between a bunch of mid level guys as my WR2 and WR3 and so on. Hoping to see the QB frenzy take off here with only 12 off the board right now. I think I have a solid foundation here.
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Jason Wood said:
An absolutely phenomenal start to the draft...I knew that with the overwrought run on RBs early one of your early picks would have a chance to grab awesome value at WR -- and you just did.

Stinkin Ref said:
3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

4.16 Mike Wallace WR25 MIA

5.01 Greg Jennings WR26 MIN

At the last turn snagged two WR1's. They are both going to new teams but should still see a bunch of targets. I REALLY wanted to do something different with one of these picks but just thought the WR pool would be demolished when it came back and in a start 3 I didn't want to have to be deciding between a bunch of mid level guys as my WR2 and WR3 and so on. Hoping to see the QB frenzy take off here with only 12 off the board right now. I think I have a solid foundation here.
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The sweet spot in these drafts shifted from the late part of the draft to the early part since the WSLs. QBs and WRs are falling much further.

 
RB is a lot thinner this year it seems, than in years past. I very nearly pulled the trigger on MJD at 2.15, and probably should have. If I had known the quality of WRs would be THAT nice in rounds 5+ I would have.

 
So far I'm finding it hard to not like a team, but... well... I like pretty much all of them. This should be a great challenge.

 
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while there is a break in the action:

QB- Tom Brady

RB - LeSean McCoy, David Wilson

WR - Jordy Nelson, Cecil Shorts

TE - Jermichael "Bump" Finley

 
5.11 75. HellToupee Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB Fri May 3 2:17:15 p.m. ET 2013

5.12 76. Steel Dillo Ballard, Vick IND RB Fri May 3 7:24:28 p.m. ET 2013

5.13 77. Team Legacy Gordon, Josh CLE WR Fri May 3 7:29:25 p.m. ET 2013

5.14 78. Sigmund Bloom Bernard, Giovani CIN RB Fri May 3 7:29:26 p.m. ET 2013

5.15 79. AhrnCityPahnder Austin, Tavon STL WR Fri May 3 7:29:26 p.m. ET 2013

5.16 80. Jason Wood Mendenhall, Rashard ARI RB Fri May 3 7:29:26 p.m. ET 2013

6.01 81. Jason Wood Leshoure, Mikel DET RB Fri May 3 8:48:27 p.m. ET 2013

6.02 82. AhrnCityPahnder Daniels, Owen HOU TE Fri May 3 8:48:28 p.m. ET 2013

6.03 83. Sigmund Bloom Hilton, T.Y. IND WR Fri May 3 9:15:04 p.m. ET 2013

6.04 84. Team Legacy Pitta, Dennis BAL TE Fri May 3 10:16:23 p.m. ET 2013

6.05 85. Steel Dillo Davis, Vernon SFO TE Fri May 3 10:16:24 p.m. ET 2013

6.06 86. HellToupee Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE Fri May 3 10:38:44 p.m. ET 2013

6.07 87. Bicycle Seat Sniffer Finley, Jermichael GBP TE Fri May 3 10:38:45 p.m. ET 2013

6.08 88. RC94 Jones, James GBP WR Fri May 3 10:58:24 p.m. ET 2013

6.09 89. Pimpin'AintEasy Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE Sat May 4 9:35:14 a.m. ET 2013

6.10 90. Nugget Alexander, Danario SDC WR Sat May 4 9:35:15 a.m. ET 2013

6.11 91. Norsemen Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR Sat May 4 9:37:22 a.m. ET 2013

6.12 92. Sweet Love Olsen, Greg CAR TE Sat May 4 9:37:23 a.m. ET 2013

 
Thoughts on T. Austin at 5.15? I was really having a tough time trying to predict his value vs some of the proven/reliable WR2s that were still available.

 
My thoughts on Austin, who I like a lot for this year. The Cowboys will continue to be a passing team and lean heavily on Romo. Austin is definitely third on the target list behind Bryant and Witten. However, he has caught 81, 69, 43 (on 10 games) and 66 passes over the most recent four seasons. He is ranked 31st on average here, but I have him highest of all staffers at 25. Five other staffers have him at 30 or higher and I got him as the 38th wide receiver. I obviously preferred him to the tight ends remaining as they are flying off the board.

Others wish to weigh in?

 
3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

7.01 Mark Ingram RB NOS

4.16 Mike Wallace WR25 MIA

5.01 Greg Jennings WR26 MIN

6.16 Kenny Britt WR TEN

turn

ok so it was Britt or _____ or _____ I'll fill those in later....sometimes we think guys disappear...sometimes they have talent and play for the next contract after making mistakes...going upside here..c'mon baby I been golfing all day and drinking..make this pay off

Ingram...Ivory is gone...don't think Sproles or Thomas gets the carries...like what little I saw of what can happen when NO decides to run late last year....this could be a steal....

 
6.16 96. Stinkin Ref - Britt, Kenny TEN WR

7.01 97. Stinkin Ref - Ingram, Mark NOS RB

7.02 98. Sinrman - Miller, Heath PIT TE

7.03 99. Joffer - Jackson, Fred BUF RB

7.04 100. Rzrback77 - Williams, Mike TBB WR

7.05 101. Sweet Love - Vick, Michael PHI QB

7.06 102. Norsemen - Dalton, Andy CIN QB

7.07 103. Nugget - Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB

7.08 104. Pimpin'AintEasy - Rivers, Philip SDC QB

7.09 105. RC94 - Moore, Denarius OAK WR

7.10 106. Bicycle Seat Sniffer - Moore, Lance NOS WR

7.11 107. HellToupee - Richardson, Daryl STL RB

7.12 108. Steel Dillo - Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR3

7.13 109. Team Legacy - Ivory, Christopher NYJ RB

7.14 110. Sigmund Bloom - Freeman, Josh TBB QB

7.15 111. AhrnCityPahnder - Flacco, Joe BAL QB

7.16 112. Jason Wood - Franklin, Johnathan GBP RB

8.01 113. Jason Wood - Cook, Jared STL TE

8.02 114. AhrnCityPahnder - Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

8.03 115. Sigmund Bloom - Bradford, Sam STL QB

8.04 116. Team Legacy - Palmer, Carson ARI QB

8.05 117. Steel Dillo - Blackmon, Justin JAC WR

 
1.12 - Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

2.05 - Forte, Matt CHI RB

3.12 - Ridley, Stevan NEP RB

5.12 - Ballard, Vick IND RB

4.05 - Colston, Marques NOS WR

7.12 - Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR

8.05 - Blackmon, Justin JAC WR

6.05 - Davis, Vernon SFO TE

 
8.6 Cutler QB

8.7 A. Brown RB NYG

8.8 Tannehill QB

8.9 A. Smith QB

8.10 Ben J. Green-Ellis RB

8.11 J. Rodgers RB

8.12 M. Schaub QB #25

 
team BSS through 8:

QB -Tom Brady

RB - LeSean McCoy, David Wilson, Andre Brown

WR - Jordy Nelson, Cecil Shorts, Lance Moore

TE - Jermichael Finley

Like it, dont love it. locking up the top 2 options for the NYG RB option is huge for my team. MY WRs are not sexy but I think can be effective in the format

Time for Finley to take the diapers off.

 
3.01 Matt Ryan QB5 ATL

9.01 Jake Locker QB27 TEN

1.01 Adrian Peterson RB1 MIN

2.16 Maurice Jones-Drew RB16 JAC

7.01 Mark Ingram RB31 NOS

4.16 Mike Wallace WR25 MIA

5.01 Greg Jennings WR26 MIN

6.16 Kenny Britt WR39 TEN

8.16 Martellus Bennett TE17 CHI

picked up Bennett and Locker at the 8-9 turn....was not really expecting that big of a run on TE's in the 6th and fully expected to have more options to choose from in these rounds....so I said screw it and passed on TE at 6-7....Cook was the only guy I would have considered but didn't really see him offering much value yet....and sure enough he is the only TE to go before it came back to me ( I don't count Miller)..... kind of the same for QB2....Locker seemed like the last guy standing without questions and even he has a few....took a real long look at Montee Ball but in the end felt like it was a luxuary I couldn't afford....I would have been way behind the 8 ball at TE or QB2 if I passed on them here with a 30+ pick wait....

my lists were devasted before both of these last turns....at 6-7 I really wanted to see one of Miles Austin/Maclin/Alexander/James Jones as my WR3

and knowing V. Davis probably wasn't going to make it back to me at TE I had planned on taking one of Finley/Pettigrew/Olsen and maybe two of them....when none of things were available I felt kind of "stuck" with Britt as my WR3....I do however like Ingram more now with Ivory gone and feel he is a nice RB3....

at 8-9 turn I really felt the value was at RB and kind of upset I wasn't able to take advantage of it....

 
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Team Holloway

QB - 3.04 Cam Newton CAR 4

QB - 8.13 Matt Schaub HOU 8

RB - 1.04 Doug Martin TB 5

RB - 2.13 Darren McFadden Oak 7

WR - 4.13 Dwayne Bowe KC 10

WR - 5.04 Steve Johnson Buff 12

WR - 6.13 Miles Austin Dal 11

WR - 7.04 Mike Williams TB 5

TW - 9.04 Dustin Keller Mia 6

I have been scrambling more than I like based on going RB-RB-QB out of the gate. However, I took a chance and built up some equity in the wide receiver corps at the 6-7 turn as I decided to wait on TE. I was stunned by the second tier quarterback run in rounds seven and eight and waited even longer as I selected Matt Schaub in the eighth and waited through the turn for my first tight end. Very happy that only two were taken in between my picks and greatful that Ref was forced to get only one as he also took a second QB at the turn. I expect Keller to perform better than TE 18 where he was selected.

After scrambling for the past five rounds, I am pleased with this team's start and looking forward to being able to look at several positions for the next few rounds. Only bye repeat is week five with my two Tampa Bay players out, providing even better flexibility.

 
9.3 Weeden QB

9.4 Keller TE

9.5 Flynn QB

9.6 Jeffery WR

9.7 Givens WR

9.8 Moreno RB

9.9 Cameron TE

9.10 Rice WR

9.11 Michael Floyd WR

9.12 Boldin WR

9.13 Vereen RB

9.14 D. Allen TE

9.15 Eifert TE

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
for those of us keepign score at home, what was 3.9 3.10 & 3.11
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Thanks for pointing that out BSS. I am trying to do an ADP for the four SSLs and dont have access to MFL at work. Keep em honest broski.

Peace

Props to Steel Dillio for posting chunks. Thank you sir.

Double Peace

 
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QB -Tom Brady

RB - LeSean McCoy, David Wilson, Andre Brown

WR - Jordy Nelson, Cecil Shorts, Lance Moore, Sidney Rice

TE - Jermichael Finley, Coby Fleener

Just added Sidney Rice and Coby Fleener at the last turn.

Probably going to have to run Tom Brady solo, dont quiet remeber the backup Qbs flying off the board like that. Ive won SSl1 with just Peyton Manning before, it can be done!

8 picks to go

 
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