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[Soaring Eagle]

quick recap...

seems like everyone here loves the message boards picks...

That's probably because they are basing their picks on the FBG rankings which is made by the staffers...

Drafting out of the 5 spot we liked addai and westbrook...our decision was made for us when pasq took westy...

We were hoping to get another top flight rb fall to us in the 2nd which happened with Benson....

We are very pleased with our top 2 picks...

The 3rd round reversal really made an impact...

We were hoping for Evans at 3.10 but he went at 3.5 which would have been our pick in a normal serpentine...Andre Johnson and Boldin went off the board before our pick who we also liked. We were still very happy to get Colston who we saw as the last WR that tier....

Already having 2 rb and seeing a lot of WR on our next tier we felt the value was at QB...we really liked McNabb here as when healthy he can have huge games...Obviously we are hoping he stays healthy this year...He has an easy schedule and we felt he was the clear #2 QB behind Manning....

We were really hoping for Galloway at 5.5 but pasquino took him before us....We were not thrilled with Holmes but he was the best WR on our board...

We felt T Gonz was a great value at 6.10...We felt his numbers would be close to any WR still left at this point also....

K Jones was a gamble...I think he will play at least 10 games this year...If he plays he is a top 12 RB especially with the 0.5 ppr...With a flex we thought this was a high upside pick...

Pasquino again took our pick in the 8th taking the Ravens def...we then took Devery Henderson to balance Colston figuring at least one of them should have a solid game a week....

We tried filling the rest of our roster out with high upside players (especially wr since we felt that was our weakest spot thus far)...With Wade, Ginn, Jacoby Jones, Gaffney and Avant I feel that we can have solid production from our top 3 WR

NE and Phi should provide solid Def #s

Akers and Folk should be adequate kickers...

Pope and Sheffer are high upside TEs to pair with Gonzo...

It seems like we are getting a lot of slack for picking 4 QBS on 2 teams...However injuries are a big part of the NFL with QBs being very prone...I feel by doing this we are gauranteing that we will have a starting QB each week which I am sure some teams might not have by mid season...

Everyone has different strategies and projections which is what makes FF so fun...If we were all drafting off of the same projections with same strategies this would be a very boring hobby...

Thanks for choosing us to be in this league...It was a lot of fun drafting with the posters and staffers...

Best of luck to everyone

I apologize for any gramatical errors or typos but it is now 2:06 AM here on the east coast and i just wanted to get some of my thoughts out there....

Neil and Scott owners of Storm of Destruction

Storm of Destruction - Soaring Eagle and Stormchasers (Neil and Scott) Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted

Croyle, Brodie KCC QB - 8 24.05

Feeley, A.J. PHI QB - 5 22.05

Huard, Damon KCC QB - 8 13.10

McNabb, Donovan PHI QB - 5 4.05

Addai, Joseph IND RB - 6 1.05

Benson, Cedric CHI RB - 9 2.10

Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB - 9 14.05

Harrison, Jerome CLE RB - 7 17.10

Jones, Kevin DET RB - 6 7.10

Avant, Jason PHI WR - 5 18.05

Colston, Marques NOS WR - 4 3.10

Gaffney, Jabar NEP WR - 10 19.10

Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR - 9 11.10

Henderson, Devery NOS WR - 4 8.05

Holmes, Santonio PIT WR - 6 5.10

Jones, Jacoby HOU WR - 10 10.05

Wade, Bobby MIN WR - 5 9.10

Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 8 6.05

Pope, Leonard ARI TE - 8 23.10

Scheffler, Tony DEN TE - 6 15.10

Akers, David PHI PK - 5 20.05

Folk, Nick DAL PK - 8 21.10

Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def - 5 16.05

Patriots, New England NEP Def - 10 12.05

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Pasquino is KICKING ### - staff and board

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

This was a tough draft for me because several times early in the draft, the player I was targetting went a pick or two before mine. I knew I was going rb/rb because of the 14 teamer. At 2.09, I was left with Peterson vs Portis. I chose Peterson because I thought Betts would have gone much earlier than he did. I might have taken Portis otherwise. Same thing happened in 3rd with Driver. There was a WR run in the early/mid 3rd and I was left with Driver, who I still like .... but had hoped for a Roy or Evans or even Walker. Still, happy with Driver. There was crazy RB value in the 4th so I took Barber since we start 2 RBs, and a flex each week. I love the value of the over 30 WRs and ended up with a few solid WRs. I waited a long time for QB, TE, and Defense so I took three of each with different bye weeks because of the best ball format.

Overall, I like this team and think it can do well because of the depth at RB and WR for a 14 team league. The veteran WRs should be very solid each week in this format. Chris Henry was a flyer for the last half of the season that could pay huge dividends. Demetrius Williams is a favorite of mine for best ball leagues. With 14 teams, there was a definite squeeze on QB, TE, and defense and I was happy to get three of each .. even if no top 5 at the position.

Delhomme, Jake CAR QB - 7 9.09

Harrington, Joey ATL QB - 8 11.09

Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB - 5 12.06

Barber, Marion DAL RB - 8 4.06

Betts, Ladell WAS RB - 4 6.06

Herron, Noah GBP RB - 7 22.06

Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 1.06

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 5 2.09

Strong, Mack SEA RB - 8 24.06

Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 7.09

Driver, Donald GBP WR - 7 3.09

Galloway, Joey TBB WR - 10 5.09

Glenn, Terry DAL WR - 8 8.06

Henry, Chris CIN WR - 5 14.06

Jacobs, Taylor SFO WR - 6 23.09

Williams, Demetrius BAL WR - 8 10.06

Clark, Desmond CHI TE - 9 13.09

Miller, Zach OAK TE - 5 16.06

Pollard, Marcus SEA TE - 8 15.09

Brown, Josh SEA PK - 8 20.06

Lindell, Rian BUF PK - 6 21.09

49ers, San Francisco SFO Def - 6 18.06

Cardinals, Arizona ARI Def - 8 19.09

Raiders, Oakland OAK Def - 5 17.09

thoughts or questions?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Brees, Drew NOS QB - 4 4.02

Campbell, Jason WAS QB - 4 12.02

Frye, Charlie CLE QB - 7 21.13

Alexis, Rich JAC RB - 4 23.13

Arrington, J.J. ARI RB - 8 24.02

Foster, De'shaun CAR RB - 7 6.02

Green, Ahman HOU RB - 10 3.13

Jackson, Steven STL RB - 9 1.02

Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB - 7 5.13

Curry, Ronald OAK WR - 5 8.02

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR - 8 2.13

Jennings, Greg GBP WR - 7 7.13

Mason, Derrick BAL WR - 8 10.02

Parker, Samie KCC WR - 8 22.02

White, Roddy ATL WR - 8 13.13

Williams, Mike OAK WR - 5 20.02

Williams, Roydell TEN WR - 4 11.13

Graham, Daniel DEN TE - 6 14.02

Smith, Alex TBB TE - 10 19.13

Smith, L.J. PHI TE - 5 9.13

Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK - 10 18.02

Graham, Shayne CIN PK - 5 15.13

Jaguars, Jacksonville JAC Def - 4 16.02

Jets, New York NYJ Def - 10 17.13

QB: I didn't expect to take Brees, but he shouldn't be available after 43 picks in a draft. Glad I pulled the trigger there, because it allowed me to ignore QB the rest of the draft. Jason Campbell is a big time sleeper with a very easy schedule, an ideal QB2. I'm hoping Charlie Frye is the starting QB for the Browns in week 4, although against the Ravens, it might not matter.

RB: Jackson was an obvious pick, so obvious that I didn't need to be there to make it. I like Ahman Green a lot, especially in 0.5PPR. He's going to get 1,000 rushing yards and 40 receptions; the question is how high is his ceiling. I like pairing up Williams and Foster a lot. They had eight separate weeks where one had double digit FPs in 0PPR, and I expect that to be closer to 10 or more this year in 0.5PPR. If one goes down, the other might be a true stud. Arrington is a swing for the fences pick, and I like what I've seen out of Danny Ware.

WR: Fitz was an easy choice in the third round, pick 41. I'm a big fan of Curry, and think he's very undervalued this year. Jennings/Mason/Parker/White/Roydell/BMW are fill in guys; hopefully each gives me a couple of big weeks. I'm not strong at WR3, but I do have some depth. And I'm banking on using 3 RBs most weeks, so I'll only need 3 WRs.

TE: L.J. Smith isn't sexy, but McNabb has to throw somewhere. I like Daniel Graham late. I know Alex Smith is a little banged up, but how he lasted until 19.13 is beyond me.

DT: I think the Jags have the best defense in the league. Do they have the best fantasy D? We'll see, but I think they'll be up near the top. The Jets D aligns pretty well with Jacksonville's D, and is better than Houston's (the D that aligns up best with Jacksonville).

PK: Graham was my top PK, although I'm now worried about his injury. Gradkowski, like Graham, is in an incredible offense.

I don't think I'm weak anywhere. I've got depth at all the positions, and I'm strong at RB1 (Jackson) and flex (Car RBs), along with QB1 (Brees). Those are my best chances to score some points and pull out some wins, and I've given myself a chance to steal some points with solid PKs.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Pick - Player - Team

5.11 Jon Kitna Det/6

11.11 Jeff Garcia TB/10

22.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/5

4.04 Deuce McAllister NO/4

7.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/8

15.11 Michael Robinson SF/6

19.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/9

16.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/6

23.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/5

3.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/9

9.11 Mike Furrey DET/6

14.04 Bobby Engram SEA/8

10.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/8

13.11 Drew Carter CAR /7

24.04 Shaun McDonald DET/6

18.04 Lance Moore NO/4

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/8

12.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/9

21.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/5

8.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 8

17.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Pick - Player - Team5.11 Jon Kitna Det/611.11 Jeff Garcia TB/1022.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/51.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/54.04 Deuce McAllister NO/47.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/815.11 Michael Robinson SF/619.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/916.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/623.11 Jason Snelling ATL/82.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/53.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/99.11 Mike Furrey DET/614.04 Bobby Engram SEA/810.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/813.11 Drew Carter CAR /724.04 Shaun McDonald DET/618.04 Lance Moore NO/46.04 Todd Heap BAL/812.04 Heath Miller PIT/620.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/921.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/58.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 817.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

Just logging my team.Extremely late, will talk about this tomorrow.I think luck was on my side often here, because I think the #4 pick is one of the harder draws. Wanted to (A) get Westbrook and (B) challenge myself. Let me know what you think.

 

[Bri]

Most drafters lean on the RB early in every draft. This scoring format doesn't lend to that.

http://football8.myfantasyleague.com/2007/...ints&TEAM=*

I only count 8 RBs in the top 50(plus one for Tiki)

It's different than other leagues right off the bat, before the draft begins.

QBs are at a premium with 6 points per TD pass and being a PPR league the top so many WRs do well.

I chose 14th spot as my 3rd choice based upon this. As long as everyone continues to draft RB heavy, the best WR and/or QB should fall to me.

1.14 Steve Smith did. For many he's the consensus #1 WR

At the start of round 2 I'm looking at RBs I don't want. I don't think it'll be hard to "find" value at WR later just because other drafts have worked out as such.

RBs-

Portis, let someone else deal with his knee

Caddy-what happenned to him last year?

Marshawn-he's a rook, maybe it's time to be OK with JP and their passing game but I'm not quite there. I figure that's a big burden for the rook if their passing game isn't cutting it.

MJD-backup RB to Freddie T

McGahee-didn't crack 1000 last year

Benson-I don't know what he did well to get promoted(of sorts). I'm not "backing that horse"

Edge-not warm n fuzzy about him in Arizona, the line there is supposed to be improved and....I debated him. He was an awesome receiving back at one point.

Jacobs-I love his combo of size and speed. It's great to read that DL don't want to tackle him in practice, Coughlin's behind him now etc. His ADP was late second and I might have grabbed him without a thought midway through the 2nd. However, their FB got hurt. The big issue with him seems to have been his health(when's he missed time?) and sharing the rock with Droughns. Droughns got switched to FB recently and I figure that's worth a bump in his ranking/ADP. So I don't think it's as big a stretch as it's sure made out to be but...so what. I got a guy I really liked with my pick and there's plenty of others in the numerous threads here that really like Brandon as well.

Waiting on him? Well I just went thru the RBs and I don't think there's anyway he's there in round 3.

Carson is one of the best QBs in the NFL IMO and the only one that has a prayer of even dreaming about having a better year than Manning. While I don't think that'll happen, he's clearly my #2 QB. 6 points per pass TD, start of 3rd round....no way of knowing when the QBs will go...that's my guy. Very happy with that pick.

Hines Ward-I think he fell right to me. Alot of people have Ben showing a big improvement this year and he averages something like 80+ catches the last 4-5 years. Big drop after him, no brainer IMO.

Jamal's an 1100 yard RB sitting there for me and I need another. Seemed like another obvious one to me. I understand he's in Cleveland and been getting piled on by some people but that happens every year with him and he does just fine. Who in Cleveland will steal his carries? For 5th round of a 14 team draft, I think an 1100 yard RB is pretty good.

Chris Cooley-Wanted one of the better TEs, they were going.....you know the drill in drafts.

Leon-gut pick, I just like the guy and think he'll have a real nice 07 season. He's got good hands which should hopefully mean an increase in receptions is coming. Injury plagued guys Kevin Jones and Warrick Dunn followed and I think he went right about where he should have, before those guys.

Alge-He should have gone 2 rounds earlier. Just not letting him sit there is all. Go ahead say how it's wrong to draft like that, I think it's wrong to watch the others scoop up a tremendous value too. 8.14 for him? cmon

Two Ds went, figured it was D time and I wanted a good one esp since Ds score a good amount here. I jumped too early here, the Pats (often the next D picked) didn't go til a couple rounds later.

I like Steve Smith's chances of contributing in 07 as a rook. I don't think I participated in a single draft where he didn't go right around the same time as the Jones' and another rook WR. Now or never. Plax has barely practiced in 07 and the team loves the rook. It went Jacoby, James, Jarrett, then I took him. I would have blown it off if it wasn't best ball. He doesn't have to be my starter but he'll get drafted there, if not by me then by someone else. There is no rule the 3rd WR drafted has to be your starter....keep that in mind.

Pennington-well a QB run took place and I'm scrounging for a backup. I'm not so much a fan of his as I am his WRs so I figure he's fine when Carson's off. Earlier I could have drafted another QB and hoped whichever (added QB or Carson) would outscore the other each week but I simply don't think anyone I could have drafted would have. So I can't go the sharing/best ball route but it's gotta be starter+backup QB which is fine with Carson.

No one has a clue about Jacksonville WRs. The two starters were sitting there. I figure the chances of one of them having a good game each week is pretty good. We're at 67 and 68th WR off the board now so separately I don't think I'm going to get great production or predictability but in a best ball format they should make a nice tandem. This is probably my 3rd starter and I know BnB can't wrap his head around it but they didn't need to be drafted before Steve Smith.

Hagan-I like him and felt he fell some in this draft. I don't think Miami will have a great O in 07 but it's possible everyone is too down on Miami's O for 07. Schefter's rumor that Chambers could be traded could give me a starting WR here which would be sweet but regardless, he's an up N comer IMO.

Shipp-TD vulture, goalline back. Edge isn't young by RBs standards and we're in the 15th round now.

I, like many, think the Packers D could be a real force in 07. I wanted two good ones and feel I got that.

I guess Chase likes Shayne Graham best as he went first but IMO Vinatieri is best and so I feel I got the best K.

Giants D could be real real good for FF if they figure out how to cover. They're so stacked at DE(with Strahan, Tuck, and Osi) if they could just stick with the WRs for more than a few steps they'd have alot more sacks. Kiwi at OLB will likely be an added pass rusher on 3rd down and Kiwi was real good as a rook. 3rd D was in the plans from the beginning and I wanted the Giants so it worked out well.

Laurent Robinson-He looks great, like many rookie WRs. Petrino seems to like his potential alot and he's backing up a starter that hasn't exactly lit it up. 19th round pick could be a starting WR by year's end.

Just like the Ds I wanted 3 Kickers. We all know ya get weeks where your K has 3 points, 7 points, and the great 10+ point weeks. Better odds to get the 10+ weeks with 3 vs 2...I grabbed Nugent and Feeley in round 20 and 21.

David Patten-He's above Moore on the depth chart, Brees seems to have a different WR do well each week(other than Colston) so I figure he's worth a shot in round 22.

Sproles-Turner's high ankle sprain might not keep Turner out too long but I think Sproles is "electric" and he'll earn some future carries in the short time he gets backing up LT2 if at all. (We'll see how the ankle works out for Turner) He might be more like Dante Hall than a true 3rd down RB but it's round 23...why not.

Ricky-eh well why not. Further explanation is probably not needed

 

[Bri]

SmithJacobsPalmer to startOuch.

What do you have for Smith's ADP?You've made numerous comments about QBs going early to MB team and failed to acknowledge 6 points per TD pass. Is your ADP for Carson for 4 pts per TD pass? or 6 per TD pass? Do you realize Carson scored more than Steven Jackson in this format last year?

3.01 29. Bri Palmer, Carson CIN QB Wed Aug 29 9:27:55 p.m. ET 2007 4.02 44. Stuart Brees, Drew NOS QB Wed Aug 29 9:46:39 p.m. ET 2007 4.05 47. Storm of Destruction McNabb, Donovan PHI QB Wed Aug 29 9:48:32 p.m. ET 2007 4.07 49. GridIron Menace Bulger, Marc STL QB Wed Aug 29 9:51:03 p.m. ET 2007 4.08 50. Gray Brady, Tom NEP QB I'm well aware of the rules. You just chose the wrong side of the draft for the guys you wanted on your roster. Jacobs was 1 to 1.5 rd early, Palmer .5 to 1 rd early.

I got my 3rd choice not my first. I wanted the 14th, if I wanted it, it's not wrong. You have a different opinion as to which players will be better. It's just different not wrong.Taking guys you want is apparently something you often have difficulty with. As long as they wouldn't be there by my next pick(which we both agree on) then it was fine IMO. (Most likely)You may not realize you think similarly later in drafts about younger prospects but we all do. There's no trades, he won't be there when it's back to me, it's time. Obviously, I have higher expectations for Palmer and Jacobs than you also.

 

[Bri]

Pick - Player - Team5.11 Jon Kitna Det/611.11 Jeff Garcia TB/1022.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

Who knows about Russell. Big fan of Kitna's, Garcia should cover the bye fine. Seems sound to me

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/54.04 Deuce McAllister NO/47.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/815.11 Michael Robinson SF/619.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/916.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/623.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

Last 3 RBs are hit or miss types we all have differing opinions on. Westy is a premier RB so obviously that's a good one. Not sure, thinking Dunn's career is ending in 07 and it won't be that pretty. Bush makes me worry about Deuce. I think Snelling may wind up being a wise handcuff to Dunn. Not ignoring Jerrious but if Dunn struggles I think we see Snelling a bunch.

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/53.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/99.11 Mike Furrey DET/614.04 Bobby Engram SEA/810.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/813.11 Drew Carter CAR /724.04 Shaun McDonald DET/618.04 Lance Moore NO/4

WRs just OK to me. Housh is housh, cool there. Plax has done nothing to make anyone think he'll be any good in 07. The guy bugs me-misses practices, sits with a broken fingernail; the whole thing with him annoys me. You're not his coach or teammate but drafted him on prior production....I know I know. I just don't think things are so rosy for Plax.Furrey bugs me because I wish the guy got a chance to build upon 06. I'll be rooting for that guy, but I'm not sure how much he can do with Calvin in town. I think the rest are hit or miss, different opinion guys. I can totally see Hackett busting and, as always, reliable Engram comes thru. I'd bet Carter has a better year than Crayton. McDonald was 24th round, worth a shot. Lance Moore's hard to figure out like Taye Biddle and some other preseason darlings but a fun pick.

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/812.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

Real solid if not very well with your TEs

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/921.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/58.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 817.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

Real good K, real good D, and two "ehs" probably what you wanted before the draft began so it's good.

 

[BassNBrew]

SmithJacobsPalmer to startOuch.

What do you have for Smith's ADP?You've made numerous comments about QBs going early to MB team and failed to acknowledge 6 points per TD pass. Is your ADP for Carson for 4 pts per TD pass? or 6 per TD pass? Do you realize Carson scored more than Steven Jackson in this format last year?

3.01 29. Bri Palmer, Carson CIN QB Wed Aug 29 9:27:55 p.m. ET 2007 4.02 44. Stuart Brees, Drew NOS QB Wed Aug 29 9:46:39 p.m. ET 2007 4.05 47. Storm of Destruction McNabb, Donovan PHI QB Wed Aug 29 9:48:32 p.m. ET 2007 4.07 49. GridIron Menace Bulger, Marc STL QB Wed Aug 29 9:51:03 p.m. ET 2007 4.08 50. Gray Brady, Tom NEP QB I'm well aware of the rules. You just chose the wrong side of the draft for the guys you wanted on your roster. Jacobs was 1 to 1.5 rd early, Palmer .5 to 1 rd early.

I got my 3rd choice not my first. I wanted the 14th, if I wanted it, it's not wrong. You have a different opinion as to which players will be better. It's just different not wrong.Taking guys you want is apparently something you often have difficulty with. As long as they wouldn't be there by my next pick(which we both agree on) then it was fine IMO. (Most likely)You may not realize you think similarly later in drafts about younger prospects but we all do. There's no trades, he won't be there when it's back to me, it's time. Obviously, I have higher expectations for Palmer and Jacobs than you also.

Here's where Jacobs went in some recent 16 team full ppr leagues where RBs are even more valuable...3.05 Shadowfax- Brandon Jacobs, RB223.01 Knowledgereigns - Brandon Jacobs - RB20 - NYG3.06 LHUCKS - RB21 Brandon Jacobs, NYGYou claim that RBs are valuable and then draft one a full round to round and a half early. Obviously you think Jacobs is one of the biggest sleepers in this year's draft. I'm not disputing that. However you should have chosen your draft position accordingly and picked up some extra value...3.02 30. Busman Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Wed Aug 29 9:29:08 p.m. ET 2007 3.04 32. Borbely's Bunker Brigade Portis, Clinton WAS RB Wed Aug 29 9:32:15 p.m. ET 2007 3.13 41. Stuart Green, Ahman HOU RB Wed Aug 29 9:42:53 p.m. ET 2007 3.14 42. Rudnicki Williams, Carnell TBB RB Wed Aug 29 9:44:35 p.m. ET 2007 You were drawn in the 4th slot so slots 4-8 were available. This could have been your team...Westbrook/Housh/Jacobs/BradyGore/Fitz/Palmer/Ward

 

[David Yudkin]

I think that I have opened at least one of my eyes now, so . . .

QB

Favre, Brett GBP QB - 7 8.12

Green, Trent MIA QB - 9 13.03

Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB - 6 7.03

They've not elite, but they should all be up and down and are better for best ball than regular lineup leagues. I don't love Green but there were very few QB left at that point. We'll see just how wide opened the Steelers offense gets this year.

RB

Buckhalter, Correll PHI RB - 5 12.12

Jones, Julius DAL RB - 8 5.03

Maroney, Laurence NEP RB - 10 1.12

Moore, Mewelde MIN RB - 5 22.12

Every time I had a RB queued up he went just before my pick and there were no other guys that jumped out at me as comparible values. I actually thought I had taken a RB in the middle rounds but obviously that didn't happen. Without much access to the truly top guys, my options were limited and I opted to look for higher scoring elsewhere.

WR

Colbert, Keary CAR WR - 7 16.12

Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 6 2.03

Jones, Matt JAC WR - 4 11.03

Lloyd, Brandon WAS WR - 4 23.03

Moss, Randy NEP WR - 10 4.12

Smith, Brad NYJ WR - 10 24.12

Stallworth, Donte' NEP WR - 10 9.03

Walter, Kevin HOU WR - 10 18.12

Williamson, Troy MIN WR - 5 10.12

Quantity over quality. Hopefully I got enough guys that will see a lot of time to have all of them in the mix throughout the year. At three in the morning, mistook my former 49ers wide receivers and thought I was taking Wilson instead of Lloyd (not that Wilson should have still been on the board). Seeing some of the other WRs that got taken late, I don't feel so bad about the guys added as padding. I think the negativism on Moss is overblown and he'll be fine. Paired with Stallworth, one or the other should have a decent game each week.

TE

Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 7 3.03

Johnson, Eric NOS TE - 4 14.12

Martin, David MIA TE - 9 17.03

I completely misread the TE market and was expected people to jump in sooner for tight ends. Thus the risk in taking Gates. I see Gates putting up WR2 numbers, so he might still end up being a decent pick. At least I know what to expect from Gates (as opposd to guys with a fair amount of ??? at RB or WR that were still on the board). Martin and Johnson will (sadly) have weeks as my flex scorer, especially if they have weeks with TD catches.

PK

Gould, Robbie CHI PK - 9 19.03

Nedney, Joe SFO PK - 6 21.03

Didn't get stuck with any of the guys on the kicking bubble and Gould should still do well (although not as well as last year).

DEF

Bears, Chicago CHI Def - 9 6.12

Dolphins, Miami MIA Def - 9 15.03

Lions, Detroit DET Def - 6 20.12

Sure, CHI may have gone too early but their big weeks are MONSTER weeks. MIA DEF may be one of the few positive things happening for the Dolphins this year. Only took the defense to stick it to one of the MB teams. I would have gone with MIA and CHI on the same bye week and not really cared too much.

I would like my team better if this were a straight Survivor league. I think I have enough to stay away from too many low scoring weeks but I don't think that I have enough to be a regular Top 3 scorer to beat most teams each week.

Will try to make league comments later on . . .

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Borbely's Bunker Brigade - Anthony Borbely

I chose pick 11, and the reason was I wanted to be at the spot in round 3 that would allow me to choose a stud WR. However, when Portis fell, my plans changed, as I could not pass him up. But I definitely wanted to be at the top of round 3 to get a stud.

Grossman, Rex CHI QB - 9 9.04

Young, Vince TEN QB - 4 6.11

After the stud QBs were gone, I was pretty happy seeing VY available at 6.11, and although I was not planning on taking a QB at this point, VY was too good to pass on. Grossman was a great pick in this format with his all or nothing scores. I also like the fact that Grossman plays the Lions in week 4, which is VY's bye week. The bad thing is I have no depth, so I really have to hope for no injuries.

Duckett, T.J. DET RB - 6 13.04

Faulk, Kevin NEP RB - 10 10.11

Johnson, Rudi CIN RB - 5 1.11

Morency, Vernand GBP RB - 7 8.11

Perry, Chris CIN RB - 5 23.04

Portis, Clinton WAS RB - 4 3.04

Rudi is rock solid at 1.11, and I'll take his 1500 and 12 TD's all day. Portis is a first round RB who I got at 3.04. I am not concerned about his tendonitis, and if he is healthy, my team will be strong. Morency will get plenty of work, as I think the Packers will have some form of a RBBC, and at 8.11, was a great value pick. Faulk should be great in this format, as he will have a few weeks with a bunch of receptions. Duckett could also be good for a few games, hoping for some multiple TD games. Perry was just a late round gamble, and the Bengals are actually encouraged by his health. If he plays at all, he is worth this late pick.

Bryant, Antonio FA WR - - 24.11

Clayton, Mark BAL WR - 8 5.04

Coles, Laveranues NYJ WR - 10 4.11

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR - 7 14.11

Higgins, Johnnie Lee OAK WR - 5 22.11

Jones, Brandon TEN WR - 4 12.11

Jurevicius, Joe CLE WR - 7 11.04

Owens, Terrell DAL WR - 8 2.04

Williams, Reggie JAC WR - 4 15.04

Owens is my #2 ranked WR, and I was hoping he would be here when I chose pick 11. The next pick was Coles, who is a great PPR pick. Clayton is a solid WR3 for my team. I waited until round 11 to take my next WR. I took Jurevicius, who is starting in Cleveland. Brandon Jones appears to be in the doghouse in Tennessee, but I believe he will start the majority of the games due to a lack of quality WRs there. Malcolm Floyd may start, and if not, should get plenty of playing time. Reggie Williams will still see the field in Jax in my opinion, and since it was round 15, I don't feel there is any risk. I took Higgins hoping for a couple of big weeks that his speed may provide, along with a strong armed QB like Culpepper. Bryant was the best talent left, and I have to believe someone will take a chance on him. Overall, my top 3 are rock solid, but I lack a true solid WR4. I am hoping the bench can pick up the slack from week to week.

Davis, Vernon SFO TE - 6 7.04

Olsen, Greg CHI TE - 9 17.04

I feel Davis is going to break out this year, and should provide some big weeks along the way. I took Olsen hoping for a few big weeks, rather than a safe lower scoring consistent player.

Hanson, Jason DET PK - 6 19.04

Kasay, John CAR PK - 7 21.04

Mare, Olindo NOS PK - 4 20.11

I decided on 3 kickers to give me one extra chance to get a solid score and thus one fewer bad score for some weeks. I like having Hanson and Mare, 2 dome kickers who kick for teams that should score a lot of points. Kasay was the next best available with a different bye week.

Bills, Buffalo BUF Def - 6 18.11

Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def - 8 16.11

I was very surprised to see Dallas there in round 16. I feel with Phillips there, the defense will be more aggressive, get more sacks, and create more turnovers. Buffalo is a respectable 2nd defense.

Bye weeks:

Week 4: Vince Young, Clinton Portis, Brandon Jones, Reggie Williams, Olindo Mare

Week 5: Rudi Johnson, Chris Perry, Johnnie Lee Higgins

Week 6: T.J. Duckett, Vernon Davis, Jason Hanson, Buffalo Bills

Week 7: Vernand Morency, Malcolm Floyd, Joe Jurevicius, John Kasay

Week 8: Mark Clayton, Terrell Owens, Dallas Cowboys

Week 9: Rex Grossman, Greg Olsen

Week 10: Kevin Faulk, Laveranues Coles

Unknown: Antonio Bryant

I feel I did very well managing bye weeks. Week 4 I lose VY and Portis, but Grossman plays the Lions that week, and they have among the worst pass defenses in the league, so it minimizes the loss. I managed to have minimal players off in the key week 6 byes and am hoping to take advantage of it, as many great fantasy players have that week off, including players from the Lions, Colts, Broncos, and Steelers. Week 8 is my only major concern, as I lose Owens and Clayton, but that is the worst of my bye weekls and it really is not that bad.

I have solid starters, and hopefully can put together enough solid weeks from my bench to get decent scores. I think I protected myself from really bad weeks, and feel that if Portis is healthy, that my team is pretty strong. VY, Rudi, Portis, TO, Coles, Clayton, Vernon, and Dallas is a solid core, and if I can get some help from the bench from time to time, I should be solid. I feel my bye week management was very good, and combined with solid starters, I am hoping to avoid those killer weeks that can ruin a best ball team.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Would someone be kind enough to email me a copy/paste of the draft?

I have very limited access to FFB websites at work, so a link won't work, and it's hard to sort through this thread to see who got what.

 

[BroadwayG]

The draft was pretty painful to watch, but I just couldn't keep my eyes away. On paper, this contest should be over before the bye weeks start.

 

[BroadwayG]

Would someone be kind enough to email me a copy/paste of the draft?I have very limited access to FFB websites at work, so a link won't work, and it's hard to sort through this thread to see who got what.

I can do it Andy

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Would someone be kind enough to email me a copy/paste of the draft?I have very limited access to FFB websites at work, so a link won't work, and it's hard to sort through this thread to see who got what.

I can do it Andy

PM sent. Thanks!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Ok, so let's break this down.....

Team:

5.11 Jon Kitna Det/6

11.11 Jeff Garcia TB/10

22.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/5

4.04 Deuce McAllister NO/4

7.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/8

15.11 Michael Robinson SF/6

19.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/9

16.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/6

23.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/5

3.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/9

9.11 Mike Furrey DET/6

14.04 Bobby Engram SEA/8

10.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/8

13.11 Drew Carter CAR /7

24.04 Shaun McDonald DET/6

18.04 Lance Moore NO/4

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/8

12.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/9

21.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/5

8.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 8

17.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

First 4 picks:

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/5

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/5

3.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/9

4.04 Deuce McAllister NO/4

Walked into Pick Slot 4 and took Westbrook. Re-affirmed that call when the MB said they'd have taken him at 5. Considered Reggie Bush (Wk 4 bye would be a later issue) and also FWP (really like him, but chose Westbrook in a close call). Obviously I was concerned that I'd not get a good enough WR2 in Round 3, but the MB helped me out and didn't take enough WRs. (Plax was #15). Outstanding value that fell. Chose Plax over Colston because I was targeting Deuce. Nailed that one. Also considered CJ2 (targeting Kitna later) but felt Plax was a slightly better play.Next 4 rounds:

5.11 Jon Kitna Det/6

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/8

7.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/8

8.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 8

Kitna in a best ball league as QB1. Seventh QB to go off the board, and the value was perfect here. Heap was a tough call over Shockey, but I didn't want TE1 and WR2 to also be Giants (Bri's strategy apparently). Dunn at 7.11? 42nd RB off the board? Thanks, I'll take that. After Yudkin took the Bears and given the generous D scoring system for lower points against, Baltimore was an easy call.Next 6 rounds:

9.11 Mike Furrey DET/6

10.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/8

11.11 Jeff Garcia TB/10

12.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

13.11 Drew Carter CAR /7

14.04 Bobby Engram SEA/8

Time to load up at WR for WR3/Flex position. Taking guys that have a very good chance of finding a lot of catches (Furrey) or the end zone (Engram), replacing a hurt WR on a good passing offense (Crayton) or a big play guy for a QB that likes to go deep (Carter). Four for four.QB2 was a need, even with Kitna, but I waited an extra round and skipped over Campbell in Round 10 and targeted Garcia's matchup vs. TENN in Week 6. Galloway should also help him out, as will his ability to run on his own as well as Caddy's new role as a receiver.

Heath Miller shouldn't have been in Round 12 - no way. He's going to be a Top 10 TE this season in that offense, but I'll gladly have him on my team - and I can have him as a flex as well. Nice.

Final 10 Picks:

15.11 Michael Robinson SF/6

16.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/6

17.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

18.04 Lance Moore NO/4

19.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/9

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/9

21.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/5

22.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

23.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

24.04 Shaun McDonald DET/6

Grabbed two more RBs with TD vulture shots (Robinson) and the alleged #2 guy in Denver . Good enough for RB5 for me. Added the Bengals as they compliment the Ravens' schedule well and I see them as getting back to forcing a lot of turnovers this year once again.

Lance Moore is a pre-season darling, and if you're going to take a flier on a WR, picking one on the #1 passing team from last year isn't a bad idea. Add in that all the WRs seem to be ailing for the Saints and Meachem hasn't shown much, and I like this late pick.

Garrett Wolfe will be a Bear and the likely #3 RB option. Big play potential for this kid, which is exactly what you need in best ball.

Two kickers before a squeeze happens. Powerful offense (Wilkins / STL) and a dome kicker for a team that lacks a ton of offense and will need points (Longwell).

JaMarcus Russell - I may not have needed QB3, but of all the guys left (Croyle was still there) he's the most likely to put up a "best" score.

Snelling is a sneaky handcuff to Dunn and potential TD vulture. Grabbed him before others did.

Shaun McDonald - WR4 in Detroit, sure, but if he gets on the field (and Martz used him a lot in STL) he could perform well enough to outplay the others that are left. Not bad for WR110 or so. Plus if he gets a TD, so does Kitna.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Now, by position:

5.11 Jon Kitna Det/6

11.11 Jeff Garcia TB/10

22.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

A Top 5 QB IMHO (Kitna) and a vet backup. Russell is all about upside. Like this group, especially in 14 teams.

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/5

4.04 Deuce McAllister NO/4

7.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/8

15.11 Michael Robinson SF/6

19.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/9

16.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/6

23.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

Even with just 0.5 PPR points for RBs, Westy is $ in Best Ball format. Have to like that. Deuce McAllister was a RB1 last year in this format (RB#11) and I got him in the FOURTH. Dunn is a solid #3 pick and great value. All the others have great upside if they get some touches, and a few could also get goal line looks.

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/5

3.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/9

9.11 Mike Furrey DET/6

14.04 Bobby Engram SEA/8

10.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/8

13.11 Drew Carter CAR /7

24.04 Shaun McDonald DET/6

18.04 Lance Moore NO/4

Housh and Plax lead the way here. I'll get PPR options in Furrey, and I love Crayton who will be a spot starter so often you'll have trouble calling him a WR3 in Dallas. Drew Carter is $$ in Best Ball. Engram is a target in the Red Zone from Hasselbeck. The others are all about upside and possibly 1-2 good weeks.

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/8

12.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

Heap was the choice due to Week 8 bye, close over Shockey. Love both this year. Heap is a nice Red Zone / TD target and Baltimore will work that TE position. Miller was possibly the SOD given he can start at flex as well. I see Top 10 TE production, unquestionable in Best Ball format. The 14th TE off the board for a guy who had 3 10+ point weeks last year, well, the MB will regret that oversight.

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/9

21.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/5

Two kickers, all repeated above. Should be solid.

8.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 8

17.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

Ravens were a bargain. The Bears had 226 points last year (even with Hester's 6 TDs) and the Ravens came in at 223. That's 2% difference. Next best? NE at 160. I'll let you do that math.

Didn't mention bye weeks, but I've got no major issues at all.

The only repeat byes for WRs and RBs are Weeks 6 and 8, when 6 teams each are off. (2 Week 6 RBs, 2 Week 8 RBs, 2 Week 6 WRs, 2 Week 8 WRs). Even so, the rest are all so spread out it really didn't matter.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Soaring Eagle]

On paper, this contest should be over before the bye weeks start.

This ridiculous comments serve no purpose...We would prefer to hear why you like or dislike the posters v staffers teams...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Teams I like (in no particular order):

Tremendous Upside

Cutler, Jay DEN QB - 6 8.10

Alexander, Shaun SEA RB - 8 1.10

Jones, Thomas NYJ RB - 10 4.10

Wayne, Reggie IND WR - 6 2.05

Evans, Lee BUF WR - 6 3.05

Jackson, Darrell SFO WR - 6 6.10

McMichael, Randy STL TE - 9 13.05

Alexander at 1.10? How the mighty have fallen.

Getting Jones at 4.10 in a 14 team draft is a surprise to me. Would have expected him to go before.

That comgination of Wayne at 2.05 and Evans at 3.05 crushes. I love it.

TE position is a problem though.

Warehouse Nasty

Leinart, Matt ARI QB - 8 8.09

Gore, Frank SFO RB - 6 1.09

Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB - 4 2.06

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR - 8 3.06

Branch, Deion SEA WR - 8 4.09

Brown, Reggie PHI WR - 5 5.06

Watson, Ben NEP TE - 10 9.06

Gore at 1.09? He didn't LOSE a hand.

Several eggs in same basket with Leinart/Boldin. But I don't think that's unwarranted.

Reggie Brown's been a bit quiet in pre-sesason, but I expect that to turn up when it's for real.

Gridiron Menace

Bulger, Marc STL QB - 9 4.07

Bush, Reggie NOS RB - 4 1.07

James, Edgerrin ARI RB - 8 2.08

Holt, Torry STL WR - 9 3.08

Jackson, Vincent SDC WR - 7 5.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR - 6 8.07

Scaife, Bo TEN TE - 4 13.08

I have a man-crush on Bulger this year, so I love getting him in the 4th. Holt's knee could be a problem though.

Here's to hping the hype on Jackson & Marshall is warranted.

Storm of Destruction

McNabb, Donovan PHI QB - 5 4.05

Addai, Joseph IND RB - 6 1.05

Benson, Cedric CHI RB - 9 2.10

Colston, Marques NOS WR - 4 3.10

Holmes, Santonio PIT WR - 6 5.10

Jones, Jacoby HOU WR - 10 10.05

Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 8 6.05

A bit of "swing for the fences" here. IF Benson can carry the load, and IF Colston repeats, and IF McNabb is healthy, and IF Holmes breaks out like he apparently is poised to, and IF Jones can put up decent #'s as the #2 in Houston, and IF the Chiefs offense doesn't implode - then this team will be extremely tough to beat.

Rudnicki

Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB - 8 7.14

Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB - 7 1.01

Williams, Carnell TBB RB - 10 3.14

Williams, Roy DET WR - 6 2.14

Berrian, Bernard CHI WR - 9 6.01

Edwards, Braylon CLE WR - 7 4.01

Daniels, Owen HOU TE - 10 12.01

Hasselbeck should bounce back this year.

Hopefully Cadillac rebounds.

Right or wrong, for me defenses and kickers are kind of a crapshoot, so I disregard them when I make an evaluation. I only look at the starters of QB/RB 1&2/WR 1-3/TE.

 

[Soaring Eagle]

Now, by position:

5.11 Jon Kitna Det/6

11.11 Jeff Garcia TB/10

22.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

A Top 5 QB IMHO (Kitna) and a vet backup. Russell is all about upside. Like this group, especially in 14 teams.

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/5

4.04 Deuce McAllister NO/4

7.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/8

15.11 Michael Robinson SF/6

19.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/9

16.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/6

23.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

Even with just 0.5 PPR points for RBs, Westy is $ in Best Ball format. Have to like that. Deuce McAllister was a RB1 last year in this format (RB#11) and I got him in the FOURTH. Dunn is a solid #3 pick and great value. All the others have great upside if they get some touches, and a few could also get goal line looks.

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/5

3.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/9

9.11 Mike Furrey DET/6

14.04 Bobby Engram SEA/8

10.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/8

13.11 Drew Carter CAR /7

24.04 Shaun McDonald DET/6

18.04 Lance Moore NO/4

Housh and Plax lead the way here. I'll get PPR options in Furrey, and I love Crayton who will be a spot starter so often you'll have trouble calling him a WR3 in Dallas. Drew Carter is $$ in Best Ball. Engram is a target in the Red Zone from Hasselbeck. The others are all about upside and possibly 1-2 good weeks.

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/8

12.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

Heap was the choice due to Week 8 bye, close over Shockey. Love both this year. Heap is a nice Red Zone / TD target and Baltimore will work that TE position. Miller was possibly the SOD given he can start at flex as well. I see Top 10 TE production, unquestionable in Best Ball format. The 14th TE off the board for a guy who had 3 10+ point weeks last year, well, the MB will regret that oversight.

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/9

21.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/5

Two kickers, all repeated above. Should be solid.

8.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 8

17.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

Ravens were a bargain. The Bears had 226 points last year (even with Hester's 6 TDs) and the Ravens came in at 223. That's 2% difference. Next best? NE at 160. I'll let you do that math.

Didn't mention bye weeks, but I've got no major issues at all.

The only repeat byes for WRs and RBs are Weeks 6 and 8, when 6 teams each are off. (2 Week 6 RBs, 2 Week 8 RBs, 2 Week 6 WRs, 2 Week 8 WRs). Even so, the rest are all so spread out it really didn't matter.

Thanks for playing.

you grabbed the ravens right before we were about to take them...i was hoping garcia would slid back to us at the 5th pick in the next round...

you made it very frusterating to draft after!!!

jeff - are you concerned with plax's injury? that really had us worried...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

you grabbed the ravens right before we were about to take them...

i was hoping garcia would slid back to us at the 5th pick in the next round...



you made it very frusterating to draft after!!!

jeff - are you concerned with plax's injury? that really had us worried...

The goal is to frustrate others. That's a sign I did a good job.Not really concerned about Plax. He'll be fine.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

QBs

Leinart, Matt ARI QB - 8 8.09
Smith, Alex SFO QB - 6 11.06
Culpepper, Daunte OAK QB - 5 13.06I'm happy with how this ended up. I have Leinart pegged to finish anywhere from about 6-10 so getting him in the 8th round after 12 Qbs had been selected was very good value. I was all pegged to take Rivers but Carlton took him one pick before me. That will be a common theme throughout my analysis. Getting Smith in the 11th as a backup is solid and Daunte is worth a flyer as he's likely to have a couple big weeks to score for me. I don't feel that being one of the last 2 guys to pick a QB really set me back.

RBs

Gore, Frank SFO RB - 6 1.09
Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB - 4 2.06
Brown, Chris TEN RB - 4 6.09
White, LenDale TEN RB - 4 7.06
Morris, Maurice SEA RB - 8 12.09
Chatman, Jesse MIA RB - 9 15.06
Watson, Kenny CIN RB - 5 20.09Love this set of RBs. If one of Brown or White secures the Tenn job, my top 3 of Gore, MJD, and Brown/White will be as good as there is in the league. Vince Young commands so much attention from the defense that I expect the Tenn RB who wins the job to greatly outperform their ADP. RBBC would hurt me here but I can probably count on Brown getting hurt anyways. Chatman obviously has been making noise in the preseason and I really like Kenny Watson as a 20th round flyer. He'll catch a lot of balls at 0.5 ppr and he's the backup to Rudi and the 3rd down back. With Cincy's D being so poor I think they'll go to that wide open offense a lot and use Watson as their single back a good amount.

Week 4 will be tough as MJD and the Tenn backs have a bye.

WRs

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR - 8 3.06
Branch, Deion SEA WR - 8 4.09
Brown, Reggie PHI WR - 5 5.06
Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR - 7 10.09
Randle El, Antwaan WAS WR - 4 14.09
Perry, Tab CIN WR - 5 16.09
Hester, Devin CHI WR - 9 23.06WRs were probably my biggest disappointment of the draft. I have a very solid top 3 but I didn't get enough value after round 10. I was all set to take Drew Bennett in the 10th but Carlton again stole him from me so I rushed and picked Jarrett. Needless to say, I'll need one of Jarrett, Randel El, or Perry to step up a few weeks here and there. I'm really looking for Perry to contribute in the first half of the season while Henry is out and Jarrett to step up in the 2nd half of the season after he gets up to NFL speed. Hester will probably give me 2 games worth of scoring throughout the year and he's a great flyer in the 23rd.

TEs

Watson, Ben NEP TE - 10 9.06
Utecht, Ben IND TE - 6 17.06Not much to write about here. Took Watson as the 10th TE off the board. I'll need consistency from him as I don't expect much from Utecht.

PKs

Bironas, Rob TEN PK - 4 21.06
Crosby, Mason GBP PK - 7 22.09
Rayner, Dave GBP PK - 7 24.09Late round PK specials. Went ahead and took Rayner in the last round in case he wins the GB job.

Def

Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def - 10 18.09
Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def - 8 19.06I took TB because of their relatively easy schedule. This was deep in the draft when there were only about 8 defenses left. Maybe waited a little too long.

3 things I need to happen to compete for the title:

1) Brown or White to get the #1 job in Tennessee. I'm confident that this will happen and that this will provide me with a very solid weekly output

2) A 4th WR to step up. Randel El, Jarrett, Perry, Hester...doesn't have to be the same guy each week but I need some production out of this spot

3) Ben Watson to stay healthy and be solid.

There are a few things I learned from this draft that I'll share in another thread. All in all, it was a very tough draft. I cursed my luck when another guy took the player I'd been targeting quite a bit during this draft. It seemed as if Carlton or Yudkin continually snatched someone up from underneath me.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I think that I have opened at least one of my eyes now, so . . .QBFavre, Brett GBP QB - 7 8.12 Green, Trent MIA QB - 9 13.03 Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB - 6 7.03 They've not elite, but they should all be up and down and are better for best ball than regular lineup leagues. I don't love Green but there were very few QB left at that point. We'll see just how wide opened the Steelers offense gets this year.RBBuckhalter, Correll PHI RB - 5 12.12 Jones, Julius DAL RB - 8 5.03 Maroney, Laurence NEP RB - 10 1.12 Moore, Mewelde MIN RB - 5 22.12 Every time I had a RB queued up he went just before my pick and there were no other guys that jumped out at me as comparible values. I actually thought I had taken a RB in the middle rounds but obviously that didn't happen. Without much access to the truly top guys, my options were limited and I opted to look for higher scoring elsewhere.WRColbert, Keary CAR WR - 7 16.12 Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 6 2.03 Jones, Matt JAC WR - 4 11.03 Lloyd, Brandon WAS WR - 4 23.03 Moss, Randy NEP WR - 10 4.12 Smith, Brad NYJ WR - 10 24.12 Stallworth, Donte' NEP WR - 10 9.03 Walter, Kevin HOU WR - 10 18.12 Williamson, Troy MIN WR - 5 10.12 Quantity over quality. Hopefully I got enough guys that will see a lot of time to have all of them in the mix throughout the year. At three in the morning, mistook my former 49ers wide receivers and thought I was taking Wilson instead of Lloyd (not that Wilson should have still been on the board). Seeing some of the other WRs that got taken late, I don't feel so bad about the guys added as padding. I think the negativism on Moss is overblown and he'll be fine. Paired with Stallworth, one or the other should have a decent game each week.TEGates, Antonio SDC TE - 7 3.03 Johnson, Eric NOS TE - 4 14.12 Martin, David MIA TE - 9 17.03 I completely misread the TE market and was expected people to jump in sooner for tight ends. Thus the risk in taking Gates. I see Gates putting up WR2 numbers, so he might still end up being a decent pick. At least I know what to expect from Gates (as opposd to guys with a fair amount of ??? at RB or WR that were still on the board). Martin and Johnson will (sadly) have weeks as my flex scorer, especially if they have weeks with TD catches.PKGould, Robbie CHI PK - 9 19.03 Nedney, Joe SFO PK - 6 21.03 Didn't get stuck with any of the guys on the kicking bubble and Gould should still do well (although not as well as last year).DEFBears, Chicago CHI Def - 9 6.12 Dolphins, Miami MIA Def - 9 15.03 Lions, Detroit DET Def - 6 20.12 Sure, CHI may have gone too early but their big weeks are MONSTER weeks. MIA DEF may be one of the few positive things happening for the Dolphins this year. Only took the defense to stick it to one of the MB teams. I would have gone with MIA and CHI on the same bye week and not really cared too much.I would like my team better if this were a straight Survivor league. I think I have enough to stay away from too many low scoring weeks but I don't think that I have enough to be a regular Top 3 scorer to beat most teams each week.Will try to make league comments later on . . .

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Just giving my random observations.

Teams I'm not big on.... :ducksandcovers:

Chase Stuart

Brees, Drew NOS QB - 4 4.02

Green, Ahman HOU RB - 10 3.13

Jackson, Steven STL RB - 9 1.02

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR - 8 2.13

Dont like any of the TE's and after Fitz, the WR's are weak.

ceo3west

Romo, Tony DAL QB - 8 6.03

Johnson, Larry KCC RB - 8 1.03

Taylor, Fred JAC RB - 4 5.12

Walker, Javon DEN WR - 6 2.12

Moss, Santana WAS WR - 4 4.03

Johnson, Calvin DET WR - 6 3.12

Witten, Jason DAL TE - 8 7.12

I'm not a Romo or Moss guy and CJ is still a rookie after all. And how much work does Taylor get this year?

Jeff Pasquino

Kitna, Jon DET QB - 6 5.11

McAllister, Deuce NOS RB - 4 4.04

Westbrook, Brian PHI RB - 5 1.04

Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR - 5 2.11

Burress, Plaxico NYG WR - 9 3.11

Furrey, Mike DET WR - 6 9.11

Heap, Todd BAL TE - 8 6.04

I could learn to like this team. But at present, I don't like Burress or Furrey and think Deuce's workload may be less this year (only a gut feeling).

Tefertiller

Delhomme, Jake CAR QB - 7 9.09

Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 1.06

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 5 2.09

Driver, Donald GBP WR - 7 3.09

Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 7.09

I don't like the WR3 and as much as I want to have AP's baby, I'm not sure of the % split in the RB situation in MN. May have gotten a big steal with Pollard in the 15th

Delhomme is a big question mark.

Clayton Gray

Brady, Tom NEP QB - 10 4.08

Henry, Travis DEN RB - 6 1.08

McGahee, Willis BAL RB - 8 2.07

Johnson, Andre HOU WR - 10 3.07

Hackett, D.J. SEA WR - 8 7.07

Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR - 9 9.07

Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE - 9 6.08

Don't like McGahee and the WR's are iffy at best. Shockey is perpetually hurt.

Borbely's Bunker Brigade

Young, Vince TEN QB - 4 6.11

Johnson, Rudi CIN RB - 5 1.11

Portis, Clinton WAS RB - 4 3.04

Owens, Terrell DAL WR - 8 2.04

Coles, Laveranues NYJ WR - 10 4.11

Clayton, Mark BAL WR - 8 5.04

Davis, Vernon SFO TE - 6 7.04

Another team I could learn to like. How well will VY do with nothing around him? Will Portis' knee be a problem all year? Is Vernon Davis really a stud in the making?

Mark Clayton is the guy I wish the Vikings had drafted instead of Erasmus James.

David Yudkin

Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB - 6 7.03

Maroney, Laurence NEP RB - 10 1.12

Jones, Julius DAL RB - 8 5.03

Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 6 2.03

Moss, Randy NEP WR - 10 4.12

WR3 - ???

Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 7 3.03

Will Ben really bounce back? How fragile is Maroney? The RB2 and WR3 situation is not good. Randy Moss is no longer a difference maker.

Busman

Manning, Peyton IND QB - 6 1.13

Brown, Ronnie MIA RB - 9 3.02

Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB - 6 4.13

Johnson, Chad CIN WR - 5 2.02

Chambers, Chris MIA WR - 9 6.13

Porter, Jerry OAK WR - 5 8.13

Winslow, Kellen CLE TE - 7 7.02

I don't like the RB situation at all. Ocho Cinco is a total fantasy enigma to me. Chambers and Porter have big questions. How healthy is Winslow?

Bri

Palmer, Carson CIN QB - 5 3.01

Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB - 9 2.01

Lewis, Jamal CLE RB - 7 5.01

Smith, Steve CAR WR - 7 1.14

Ward, Hines PIT WR - 6 4.14

Smith, Steve NYG WR - 9 10.14

Cooley, Chris WAS TE - 4 6.14

Not the RBs you want in a PPR. The WR2/3 situation is iffy.

 

[GridironMenace]

At work right now, but I'll have a writeup of my team during my lunch hour. Overall, I am extremely pleased with my team and I think I'll be a contender.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Just giving my random observations.

Tefertiller

Delhomme, Jake CAR QB - 7 9.09

Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 1.06

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 5 2.09

Driver, Donald GBP WR - 7 3.09

Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 7.09

I don't like the WR3 and as much as I want to have AP's baby, I'm not sure of the % split in the RB situation in MN. May have gotten a big steal with Pollard in the 15th

Delhomme is a big question mark.

Andy, I appreciate the time you took to comment on all of the teams. A couple of things probably need to be added to the discussion. You left off Galloway as my WR2. I have Bruce/Glenn as WR3/4. So, I am very happy with my WRs. Also, the starting lineups are 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 Defense, with one flex (RB, WR, or TE). ALso the RBs get .5 ppr and the WR and TE get 1 ppr.Since it is best ball, looking at the top six or seven players on each team might not give a true picture. I hope to use the committee approach at QB, TE, and Defense. Judging my QBs by Delhomme is not the way I think truly represents how the QBs will shake out. I fully expect Delhomme to be high scorer of my QBs only about half of the time.

Thanks again for taking the time to write up all of these.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Just giving my random observations.

Tefertiller

Delhomme, Jake CAR QB - 7 9.09

Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 1.06

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 5 2.09

Driver, Donald GBP WR - 7 3.09

Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 7.09

I don't like the WR3 and as much as I want to have AP's baby, I'm not sure of the % split in the RB situation in MN. May have gotten a big steal with Pollard in the 15th

Delhomme is a big question mark.

Andy, I appreciate the time you took to comment on all of the teams. A couple of things probably need to be added to the discussion. You left off Galloway as my WR2. I have Bruce/Glenn as WR3/4. So, I am very happy with my WRs. Also, the starting lineups are 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 Defense, with one flex (RB, WR, or TE). ALso the RBs get .5 ppr and the WR and TE get 1 ppr.Since it is best ball, looking at the top six or seven players on each team might not give a true picture. I hope to use the committee approach at QB, TE, and Defense. Judging my QBs by Delhomme is not the way I think truly represents how the QBs will shake out. I fully expect Delhomme to be high scorer of my QBs only about half of the time.

Thanks again for taking the time to write up all of these.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Just giving my random observations.

Tefertiller

Delhomme, Jake CAR QB - 7 9.09

Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 1.06

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 5 2.09

Driver, Donald GBP WR - 7 3.09

Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 7.09

I don't like the WR3 and as much as I want to have AP's baby, I'm not sure of the % split in the RB situation in MN. May have gotten a big steal with Pollard in the 15th

Delhomme is a big question mark.

Andy, I appreciate the time you took to comment on all of the teams. A couple of things probably need to be mentioned. You left off Galloway as my WR2. I have Bruce/Glenn as WR3/4. So, I am very happy with my WRs. Also, the starting lineups are 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 Defense, with one flex (RB, WR, or TE). ALso the RBs get .5 ppr and the WR and TE get 1 ppr.Since it is best ball, looking at the top six or seven players might not give a true picture. I hope to use the committee approach at QB, TE, and Defense. Judging my QBs by Delhomme is not the way I think truly represents how the QBs will shake out. I fully expect Delhomme to be high scorer of my QBs about half of the time.

Thanks again for taking the time to write up all of these.

I left off Galloway on purpose becuase I personally don't think he'll bring much to the table this year. Maybe I'm whiffing on his potential though. But I think the excitement over the "resurgence" of the Buccanneer offense is a bit premature. But if you believe he's a #2, I'd be happy with Bruce/Glenn as my #3 too.It's a big roll of the dice to go QBBC when included in that committee is Harrington and Tarvaris Jackson.

I did know the roster setup was as such, but it slipped my mind that RBs only get .5 ppr. That might change my opinions slightly, but as far as overall rosters go, I'm okay with who I do & don't like.

I can see where this type of draft, where everyone knows what they're doing, could get difficult and frustrating. I can imagine a scenario where you get sniped a couple of times and the wheels could fall off pretty quickly if you get into a bit of panic mode - particularly considering the time limit.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Just giving my random observations.

Teams I'm not big on.... :ducksandcovers:

Jeff Pasquino

Kitna, Jon DET QB - 6 5.11

McAllister, Deuce NOS RB - 4 4.04

Westbrook, Brian PHI RB - 5 1.04

Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR - 5 2.11

Burress, Plaxico NYG WR - 9 3.11

Furrey, Mike DET WR - 6 9.11

Heap, Todd BAL TE - 8 6.04

I could learn to like this team. But at present, I don't like Burress or Furrey and think Deuce's workload may be less this year (only a gut feeling).

Andy,Nice job with the writeups and also love what you do in the non-playing season .

I don't think you can judge the WR, RB or TE position fairly by looking at just the starters. That's a common mistake in Best Ball leagues.

I have Warrick Dunn who is at RB3 and could be a flex. Same with TE2 - Heath Miller.

WRs - I have eight, including four that came after Plax and Housh who don't share a bye with either one. WR3 will be by committee by design, as Best Ball allows me to do rather easily.

We'll see how it plays out.

ETA - Also not quite a fair assessment to leave off a Top 2 Defense that could very well be the difference many weeks.

 

[BroadwayG]

I can see where this type of draft, where everyone knows what they're doing

This was not the case here.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Andy,Nice job with the writeups and also love what you do in the non-playing season .

Thanks. I'd go nuts at work if I didn't have this place to hang out in.

I don't think you can judge the WR, RB or TE position fairly by looking at just the starters. That's a common mistake in Best Ball leagues.

Maybe I misunderstood the "Best Ball" concept. I'll have to go back and re-read the rules.

I have Warrick Dunn who is at RB3 and could be a flex. Same with TE2 - Heath Miller.WRs - I have eight, including four that came after Plax and Housh who don't share a bye with either one. WR3 will be by committee by design, as Best Ball allows me to do rather easily.

I'm reluctant to put much stock into Dunn's production this year. Just another gut feeling.Like I did write, I could learn to like your team and there are a couple reasons why. I do like Heath Miller. I think he's a great compliment to Heap.I've been tracking Crayton for a couple years now. If Glenn misses any significant time and/or Crayton can get some numbers as a #3, you've got something there.

ETA - Also not quite a fair assessment to leave off a Top 2 Defense that could very well be the difference many weeks.

This is true.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I can see where this type of draft, where ALLEGEDLY everyone knows what they're doing

This was not the case here.

:X Fixed?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

quick recap...seems like everyone here loves the message boards picks...That's probably because they are basing their picks on the FBG rankings which is made by the staffers...Drafting out of the 5 spot we liked addai and westbrook...our decision was made for us when pasq took westy...We were hoping to get another top flight rb fall to us in the 2nd which happened with Benson.... We are very pleased with our top 2 picks...The 3rd round reversal really made an impact...We were hoping for Evans at 3.10 but he went at 3.5 which would have been our pick in a normal serpentine...Andre Johnson and Boldin went off the board before our pick who we also liked. We were still very happy to get Colston who we saw as the last WR that tier....Already having 2 rb and seeing a lot of WR on our next tier we felt the value was at QB...we really liked McNabb here as when healthy he can have huge games...Obviously we are hoping he stays healthy this year...He has an easy schedule and we felt he was the clear #2 QB behind Manning....We were really hoping for Galloway at 5.5 but pasquino took him before us....We were not thrilled with Holmes but he was the best WR on our board...We felt T Gonz was a great value at 6.10...We felt his numbers would be close to any WR still left at this point also....K Jones was a gamble...I think he will play at least 10 games this year...If he plays he is a top 12 RB especially with the 0.5 ppr...With a flex we thought this was a high upside pick...Pasquino again took our pick in the 8th taking the Ravens def...we then took Devery Henderson to balance Colston figuring at least one of them should have a solid game a week....We tried filling the rest of our roster out with high upside players (especially wr since we felt that was our weakest spot thus far)...With Wade, Ginn, Jacoby Jones, Gaffney and Avant I feel that we can have solid production from our top 3 WRNE and Phi should provide solid Def #sAkers and Folk should be adequate kickers...Pope and Sheffer are high upside TEs to pair with Gonzo...It seems like we are getting a lot of slack for picking 4 QBS on 2 teams...However injuries are a big part of the NFL with QBs being very prone...I feel by doing this we are gauranteing that we will have a starting QB each week which I am sure some teams might not have by mid season...Everyone has different strategies and projections which is what makes FF so fun...If we were all drafting off of the same projections with same strategies this would be a very boring hobby...Thanks for choosing us to be in this league...It was a lot of fun drafting with the posters and staffers...Best of luck to everyoneI apologize for any gramatical errors or typos but it is now 2:06 AM here on the east coast and i just wanted to get some of my thoughts out there....Neil and Scott owners of Storm of Destruction Storm of Destruction - Soaring Eagle and Stormchasers (Neil and Scott) Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Croyle, Brodie KCC QB - 8 24.05 Feeley, A.J. PHI QB - 5 22.05 Huard, Damon KCC QB - 8 13.10 McNabb, Donovan PHI QB - 5 4.05 Addai, Joseph IND RB - 6 1.05 Benson, Cedric CHI RB - 9 2.10 Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB - 9 14.05 Harrison, Jerome CLE RB - 7 17.10 Jones, Kevin DET RB - 6 7.10 Avant, Jason PHI WR - 5 18.05 Colston, Marques NOS WR - 4 3.10 Gaffney, Jabar NEP WR - 10 19.10 Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR - 9 11.10 Henderson, Devery NOS WR - 4 8.05 Holmes, Santonio PIT WR - 6 5.10 Jones, Jacoby HOU WR - 10 10.05 Wade, Bobby MIN WR - 5 9.10 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 8 6.05 Pope, Leonard ARI TE - 8 23.10 Scheffler, Tony DEN TE - 6 15.10 Akers, David PHI PK - 5 20.05 Folk, Nick DAL PK - 8 21.10 Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def - 5 16.05 Patriots, New England NEP Def - 10 12.05

QB: I like McNabb and will be targeting him in my redrafts over the weekend. I don't like what you did after that...with the injuries to McNabb I think you pull the trigger slightly earlier on a QB2...Huard and Croyle will be near the bottom of the league and not very useful. Still like McNabb.RB: Addai I love. Benson not so much. Why not grab Adrian Peterson to back him up? He is one of the best back up RB to have on your roster whether you own Benson or not...I have grabbed him in several leagues. Kevin Jones is a waste in this league...he sits for 6 weeks on the PUP. Lorenzo Booker is a non factor in Miami this year...Jesse Chatman is the RB2 at the moment. WR: Marques Colston...guess you haven't paid attention to the injury reports. Santonio Holmes is fine. Devery Henderson I like a lot better if you hadn't grabbed Colston already. But that's fine, you have the NO passing game pretty well locked up. Colston is going to be a disappointment though IMO. Bobby Wade...who is going to get him the ball? Jacoby Jones in Houston...fine. Ginn and Gaffney...your WR unit is not bad but it isn't going to propel you through the whole season.TE: Gonzo...you managed to get quite a few KC and Miami players on your roster, in fact too many for my liking. They are two of the worst offenses in the league and you have at least 20-25% of your roster filled with them. Scheffler? Graham has been announced as the every down TE. Def/ST Eagles and Pats...pretty strong.PK: Doesn't matterYou didn't do the worst by a long shot but you don't have the firepower to win every week either IMO. Middle of the pack for the MB crew IMO.

 

[BroadwayG]

I can see where this type of draft, where ALLEGEDLY everyone knows what they're doing

This was not the case here.

Fixed?

:X It was not much different than my local leagues where half the guys show up with two cases of PBR and two magazines to share between the 6 of them.I think that's why I found it hard to stop watching the draft.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I can see where this type of draft, where ALLEGEDLY everyone knows what they're doing

This was not the case here.

:X Fixed?

I'll say this - I anticipated having an issue at WR2 with my third pick (which is why Dodds said the #4 spot suxx0r).At pick 39, I had the following gone:

Peyton

Gates

Carson

18-20RBs

15+ WRs

That would have put me at WR16 at best, possibly WR19 or 20. That'd be a major concern.

RB2 in the 4th is viable (Deuce, FTaylor and others) but WR2 outside of the Top 20 is a disadvantage.

I don't think this draft was quite what you'd see in a very tough NFFC draft. Pick 4 will be a tough spot.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

1.10 Tremendous Upside Alexander, Shaun SEA RB 9:10:04 p.m.2.05 Tremendous Upside Wayne, Reggie IND WR 9:20:02 p.m.3.05 Tremendous Upside Evans, Lee BUF WR 9:34:08 p.m.4.10 Tremendous Upside Jones, Thomas NYJ RB 9:53:01 p.m.5.05 Tremendous Upside Norwood, Jerious ATL RB 10:02:27 p.m.6.10 Tremendous Upside Jackson, Darrell SFO WR 10:20:55 p.m.7.05 Tremendous Upside Taylor, Chester MIN RB 10:31:17 p.m.8.10 Tremendous Upside Cutler, Jay DEN QB 10:49:08 p.m.9.05 Tremendous Upside Kennison, Eddie KCC WR 11:02:33 p.m.10.10 Tremendous Upside Schaub, Matt HOU QB 11:20:26 p.m.11.05 Tremendous Upside Pittman, Michael TBB RB 11:28:52 p.m.12.10 Tremendous Upside Peterson, Adrian CHI RB 11:42:28 p.m.13.05 Tremendous Upside McMichael, Randy STL TE 11:54:03 p.m.14.10 Tremendous Upside Wilson, Cedrick PIT WR 12:07:45 a.m.15.05 Tremendous Upside Reed, Josh BUF WR 12:15:50 a.m.16.10 Tremendous Upside Panthers, Carolina CAR Def 12:27:53 a.m.17.05 Tremendous Upside Bradley, Mark CHI WR 12:37:16 a.m.18.10 Tremendous Upside Henry, Chris TEN RB 12:51:44 a.m.19.05 Tremendous Upside Redskins, Washington WAS Def 1:01:38 a.m.20.10 Tremendous Upside Troupe, Ben TEN TE 1:10:31 a.m.21.05 Tremendous Upside Reed, Jeff PIT PK 1:18:41 a.m.22.10 Tremendous Upside Dawson, Phil CLE PK 1:31:24 a.m.23.05 Tremendous Upside Rice, Sidney MIN WR 1:38:23 a.m.Happy with the team...

QB: Cutler and Schaub are very young but I like the upside...you need to be prepared for a few down weeks though. I would have picked one but not both.RB: Shaun, Thomas Jones, Norwood, Chester, Pittman, Adrian Peterson-Chi(Love that pick), Henry-TN(18th round...sweet). I liek the backfield for the most part.WR: Wayne, Evans, DJAX...I love this trio at WR...one of the best trios in the league. I am not wild about your depth but I love this WR1 WR2 and WR3. TE: Mcmicahel in the 13t was a stealDef/ST Skins and Panthers...you should be fine.You did very well Upside...very well.

 

[Soaring Eagle]

quick recap...seems like everyone here loves the message boards picks...That's probably because they are basing their picks on the FBG rankings which is made by the staffers...Drafting out of the 5 spot we liked addai and westbrook...our decision was made for us when pasq took westy...We were hoping to get another top flight rb fall to us in the 2nd which happened with Benson.... We are very pleased with our top 2 picks...The 3rd round reversal really made an impact...We were hoping for Evans at 3.10 but he went at 3.5 which would have been our pick in a normal serpentine...Andre Johnson and Boldin went off the board before our pick who we also liked. We were still very happy to get Colston who we saw as the last WR that tier....Already having 2 rb and seeing a lot of WR on our next tier we felt the value was at QB...we really liked McNabb here as when healthy he can have huge games...Obviously we are hoping he stays healthy this year...He has an easy schedule and we felt he was the clear #2 QB behind Manning....We were really hoping for Galloway at 5.5 but pasquino took him before us....We were not thrilled with Holmes but he was the best WR on our board...We felt T Gonz was a great value at 6.10...We felt his numbers would be close to any WR still left at this point also....K Jones was a gamble...I think he will play at least 10 games this year...If he plays he is a top 12 RB especially with the 0.5 ppr...With a flex we thought this was a high upside pick...Pasquino again took our pick in the 8th taking the Ravens def...we then took Devery Henderson to balance Colston figuring at least one of them should have a solid game a week....We tried filling the rest of our roster out with high upside players (especially wr since we felt that was our weakest spot thus far)...With Wade, Ginn, Jacoby Jones, Gaffney and Avant I feel that we can have solid production from our top 3 WRNE and Phi should provide solid Def #sAkers and Folk should be adequate kickers...Pope and Sheffer are high upside TEs to pair with Gonzo...It seems like we are getting a lot of slack for picking 4 QBS on 2 teams...However injuries are a big part of the NFL with QBs being very prone...I feel by doing this we are gauranteing that we will have a starting QB each week which I am sure some teams might not have by mid season...Everyone has different strategies and projections which is what makes FF so fun...If we were all drafting off of the same projections with same strategies this would be a very boring hobby...Thanks for choosing us to be in this league...It was a lot of fun drafting with the posters and staffers...Best of luck to everyoneI apologize for any gramatical errors or typos but it is now 2:06 AM here on the east coast and i just wanted to get some of my thoughts out there....Neil and Scott owners of Storm of Destruction Storm of Destruction - Soaring Eagle and Stormchasers (Neil and Scott) Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Croyle, Brodie KCC QB - 8 24.05 Feeley, A.J. PHI QB - 5 22.05 Huard, Damon KCC QB - 8 13.10 McNabb, Donovan PHI QB - 5 4.05 Addai, Joseph IND RB - 6 1.05 Benson, Cedric CHI RB - 9 2.10 Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB - 9 14.05 Harrison, Jerome CLE RB - 7 17.10 Jones, Kevin DET RB - 6 7.10 Avant, Jason PHI WR - 5 18.05 Colston, Marques NOS WR - 4 3.10 Gaffney, Jabar NEP WR - 10 19.10 Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR - 9 11.10 Henderson, Devery NOS WR - 4 8.05 Holmes, Santonio PIT WR - 6 5.10 Jones, Jacoby HOU WR - 10 10.05 Wade, Bobby MIN WR - 5 9.10 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 8 6.05 Pope, Leonard ARI TE - 8 23.10 Scheffler, Tony DEN TE - 6 15.10 Akers, David PHI PK - 5 20.05 Folk, Nick DAL PK - 8 21.10 Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def - 5 16.05 Patriots, New England NEP Def - 10 12.05

QB: I like McNabb and will be targeting him in my redrafts over the weekend. I don't like what you did after that...with the injuries to McNabb I think you pull the trigger slightly earlier on a QB2...Huard and Croyle will be near the bottom of the league and not very useful. Still like McNabb.RB: Addai I love. Benson not so much. Why not grab Adrian Peterson to back him up? He is one of the best back up RB to have on your roster whether you own Benson or not...I have grabbed him in several leagues. Kevin Jones is a waste in this league...he sits for 6 weeks on the PUP. Lorenzo Booker is a non factor in Miami this year...Jesse Chatman is the RB2 at the moment. WR: Marques Colston...guess you haven't paid attention to the injury reports. Santonio Holmes is fine. Devery Henderson I like a lot better if you hadn't grabbed Colston already. But that's fine, you have the NO passing game pretty well locked up. Colston is going to be a disappointment though IMO. Bobby Wade...who is going to get him the ball? Jacoby Jones in Houston...fine. Ginn and Gaffney...your WR unit is not bad but it isn't going to propel you through the whole season.TE: Gonzo...you managed to get quite a few KC and Miami players on your roster, in fact too many for my liking. They are two of the worst offenses in the league and you have at least 20-25% of your roster filled with them. Scheffler? Graham has been announced as the every down TE. Def/ST Eagles and Pats...pretty strong.PK: Doesn't matterYou didn't do the worst by a long shot but you don't have the firepower to win every week either IMO. Middle of the pack for the MB crew IMO.

I missed out on the entire run of 2nd qbs...they went off the board like crazy between our 2 picks...i should have grabbed one the round earlier....i think lo booker has the potential for a few long TDs this year which is why i like him in a best ball...sheffer is not the starter but i still think denver will find a way to get him involved in the passing game...graham will be in there a lot for blocking...i think this team can be a top 5 team...i am really high on benson...i think 1600 total yards and 12-14 tds is realistic....i think addai is a top 5....i think i have enough depth at wr that gaffney, ginn and j jones should all have some big weeks to contribute...i think k jones could have a huge payoff with being a flex starter...looking back again i needed a qb2 earlier, i would have liked to have grabbed h miller or owen daniels as well but there was always someone else at the time i liked better...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.14 14. Bri Smith, Steve CAR WR Wed Aug 29 9:15:13 p.m. ET 2007 2.01 15. Bri Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Wed Aug 29 9:16:07 p.m. ET 2007 3.01 29. Bri Palmer, Carson CIN QB Wed Aug 29 9:27:55 p.m. ET 2007 4.14 56. Bri Ward, Hines PIT WR Wed Aug 29 9:56:59 p.m. ET 2007 5.01 57. Bri Lewis, Jamal CLE RB Wed Aug 29 9:57:22 p.m. ET 2007 6.14 84. Bri Cooley, Chris WAS TE Wed Aug 29 10:26:09 p.m. ET 2007 7.01 85. Bri Washington, Leon NYJ RB Wed Aug 29 10:26:24 p.m. ET 2007 8.14 112. Bri Crumpler, Alge ATL TE Wed Aug 29 10:55:44 p.m. ET 2007 9.01 113. Bri Chargers, San Diego SDC Def Wed Aug 29 10:56:34 p.m. ET 2007 10.14 140. Bri Smith, Steve NYG WR Wed Aug 29 11:24:48 p.m. ET 2007 11.01 141. Bri Pennington, Chad NYJ QB Wed Aug 29 11:25:04 p.m. ET 2007 12.14 168. Bri Wilford, Ernest JAC WR Wed Aug 29 11:45:31 p.m. ET 2007 13.01 169. Bri Northcutt, Dennis JAC WR Wed Aug 29 11:45:57 p.m. ET 2007 14.14 196. Bri Hagan, Derek MIA WR Thu Aug 30 12:11:03 a.m. ET 2007 15.01 197. Bri Shipp, Marcel ARI RB Thu Aug 30 12:11:15 a.m. ET 2007 16.14 224. Bri Packers, Green Bay GBP Def Thu Aug 30 12:31:21 a.m. ET 2007 17.01 225. Bri Vinatieri, Adam IND PK Thu Aug 30 12:31:45 a.m. ET 2007 18.14 252. Bri Giants, New York NYG Def Thu Aug 30 12:56:00 a.m. ET 2007 19.01 253. Bri Robinson, Laurent ATL WR Thu Aug 30 12:56:31 a.m. ET 2007 20.14 280. Bri Feely, Jay MIA PK Thu Aug 30 1:14:14 a.m. ET 2007 21.01 281. Bri Nugent, Mike NYJ PK Thu Aug 30 1:14:36 a.m. ET 2007 3 K, 3 D, 2 starting RB (sort of), Steve Smith Jr at wr3

Should have his board privilages stripped for awhile...take it easy Bri, you know taking Brandon Jacobs at 2.01 is going to evoke controversy. I don't like the team and think you are a candidate for most losses on the season. Busman will give you a run for your money though.Sorry busman, you're a good guy so i won't pile it on.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This was a tough draft for me because several times early in the draft, the player I was targetting went a pick or two before mine. I knew I was going rb/rb because of the 14 teamer. At 2.09, I was left with Peterson vs Portis. I chose Peterson because I thought Betts would have gone much earlier than he did. I might have taken Portis otherwise. Same thing happened in 3rd with Driver. There was a WR run in the early/mid 3rd and I was left with Driver, who I still like .... but had hoped for a Roy or Evans or even Walker. Still, happy with Driver. There was crazy RB value in the 4th so I took Barber since we start 2 RBs, and a flex each week. I love the value of the over 30 WRs and ended up with a few solid WRs. I waited a long time for QB, TE, and Defense so I took three of each with different bye weeks because of the best ball format. Overall, I like this team and think it can do well because of the depth at RB and WR for a 14 team league. The veteran WRs should be very solid each week in this format. Chris Henry was a flyer for the last half of the season that could pay huge dividends. Demetrius Williams is a favorite of mine for best ball leagues. With 14 teams, there was a definite squeeze on QB, TE, and defense and I was happy to get three of each .. even if no top 5 at the position. Delhomme, Jake CAR QB - 7 9.09 Harrington, Joey ATL QB - 8 11.09 Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB - 5 12.06 Barber, Marion DAL RB - 8 4.06 Betts, Ladell WAS RB - 4 6.06 Herron, Noah GBP RB - 7 22.06 Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 1.06 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 5 2.09 Strong, Mack SEA RB - 8 24.06 Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 7.09 Driver, Donald GBP WR - 7 3.09 Galloway, Joey TBB WR - 10 5.09 Glenn, Terry DAL WR - 8 8.06 Henry, Chris CIN WR - 5 14.06 Jacobs, Taylor SFO WR - 6 23.09 Williams, Demetrius BAL WR - 8 10.06 Clark, Desmond CHI TE - 9 13.09 Miller, Zach OAK TE - 5 16.06 Pollard, Marcus SEA TE - 8 15.09 Brown, Josh SEA PK - 8 20.06 Lindell, Rian BUF PK - 6 21.09 49ers, San Francisco SFO Def - 6 18.06 Cardinals, Arizona ARI Def - 8 19.09 Raiders, Oakland OAK Def - 5 17.09 thoughts or questions?

This team could have been a runaway with Portis in the 2nd and Betts in the 6th. You did grerat at finding all the card carrying member of the AARP with Driver, Galloway, Bruce, and Glenn. I also would have liked to see Garcia instead of Tavaris Jackson...those subtle changes would have made you Gold!Still a solid team that will put a hurtin on people.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.14 14. Bri Smith, Steve CAR WR Wed Aug 29 9:15:13 p.m. ET 2007 2.01 15. Bri Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Wed Aug 29 9:16:07 p.m. ET 2007 3.01 29. Bri Palmer, Carson CIN QB Wed Aug 29 9:27:55 p.m. ET 2007 4.14 56. Bri Ward, Hines PIT WR Wed Aug 29 9:56:59 p.m. ET 2007 5.01 57. Bri Lewis, Jamal CLE RB Wed Aug 29 9:57:22 p.m. ET 2007 6.14 84. Bri Cooley, Chris WAS TE Wed Aug 29 10:26:09 p.m. ET 2007 7.01 85. Bri Washington, Leon NYJ RB Wed Aug 29 10:26:24 p.m. ET 2007 8.14 112. Bri Crumpler, Alge ATL TE Wed Aug 29 10:55:44 p.m. ET 2007 9.01 113. Bri Chargers, San Diego SDC Def Wed Aug 29 10:56:34 p.m. ET 2007 10.14 140. Bri Smith, Steve NYG WR Wed Aug 29 11:24:48 p.m. ET 2007 11.01 141. Bri Pennington, Chad NYJ QB Wed Aug 29 11:25:04 p.m. ET 2007 12.14 168. Bri Wilford, Ernest JAC WR Wed Aug 29 11:45:31 p.m. ET 2007 13.01 169. Bri Northcutt, Dennis JAC WR Wed Aug 29 11:45:57 p.m. ET 2007 14.14 196. Bri Hagan, Derek MIA WR Thu Aug 30 12:11:03 a.m. ET 2007 15.01 197. Bri Shipp, Marcel ARI RB Thu Aug 30 12:11:15 a.m. ET 2007 16.14 224. Bri Packers, Green Bay GBP Def Thu Aug 30 12:31:21 a.m. ET 2007 17.01 225. Bri Vinatieri, Adam IND PK Thu Aug 30 12:31:45 a.m. ET 2007 18.14 252. Bri Giants, New York NYG Def Thu Aug 30 12:56:00 a.m. ET 2007 19.01 253. Bri Robinson, Laurent ATL WR Thu Aug 30 12:56:31 a.m. ET 2007 20.14 280. Bri Feely, Jay MIA PK Thu Aug 30 1:14:14 a.m. ET 2007 21.01 281. Bri Nugent, Mike NYJ PK Thu Aug 30 1:14:36 a.m. ET 2007 3 K, 3 D, 2 starting RB (sort of), Steve Smith Jr at wr3

Should have his board privilages stripped for awhile...take it easy Bri, you know taking Brandon Jacobs at 2.01 is going to evoke controversy. I don't like the team and think you are a candidate for most losses on the season. Busman will give you a run for your money though.Sorry busman, you're a good guy so i won't pile it on.

Easy there MoP.Bri had a plan torpedoed by the pick in front of him. IIRC he wanted Peyton and SSmith, but had to change gears quickly.This was back when we assumed that people would pick quickly.......I don't agree on Jacobs, but at least it wasn't Rich Alexis or SJax2.....

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

There were several of Bri's picks I liked. I am not a Jacobs fan. But, I did like Leon Washington, his TE combo, and top kickers and a very good group of defensense. Picking at the corner is tough for value. Have to reach sometimes.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.14 14. Bri Smith, Steve CAR WR Wed Aug 29 9:15:13 p.m. ET 2007 2.01 15. Bri Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Wed Aug 29 9:16:07 p.m. ET 2007 3.01 29. Bri Palmer, Carson CIN QB Wed Aug 29 9:27:55 p.m. ET 2007 4.14 56. Bri Ward, Hines PIT WR Wed Aug 29 9:56:59 p.m. ET 2007 5.01 57. Bri Lewis, Jamal CLE RB Wed Aug 29 9:57:22 p.m. ET 2007 6.14 84. Bri Cooley, Chris WAS TE Wed Aug 29 10:26:09 p.m. ET 2007 7.01 85. Bri Washington, Leon NYJ RB Wed Aug 29 10:26:24 p.m. ET 2007 8.14 112. Bri Crumpler, Alge ATL TE Wed Aug 29 10:55:44 p.m. ET 2007 9.01 113. Bri Chargers, San Diego SDC Def Wed Aug 29 10:56:34 p.m. ET 2007 10.14 140. Bri Smith, Steve NYG WR Wed Aug 29 11:24:48 p.m. ET 2007 11.01 141. Bri Pennington, Chad NYJ QB Wed Aug 29 11:25:04 p.m. ET 2007 12.14 168. Bri Wilford, Ernest JAC WR Wed Aug 29 11:45:31 p.m. ET 2007 13.01 169. Bri Northcutt, Dennis JAC WR Wed Aug 29 11:45:57 p.m. ET 2007 14.14 196. Bri Hagan, Derek MIA WR Thu Aug 30 12:11:03 a.m. ET 2007 15.01 197. Bri Shipp, Marcel ARI RB Thu Aug 30 12:11:15 a.m. ET 2007 16.14 224. Bri Packers, Green Bay GBP Def Thu Aug 30 12:31:21 a.m. ET 2007 17.01 225. Bri Vinatieri, Adam IND PK Thu Aug 30 12:31:45 a.m. ET 2007 18.14 252. Bri Giants, New York NYG Def Thu Aug 30 12:56:00 a.m. ET 2007 19.01 253. Bri Robinson, Laurent ATL WR Thu Aug 30 12:56:31 a.m. ET 2007 20.14 280. Bri Feely, Jay MIA PK Thu Aug 30 1:14:14 a.m. ET 2007 21.01 281. Bri Nugent, Mike NYJ PK Thu Aug 30 1:14:36 a.m. ET 2007 3 K, 3 D, 2 starting RB (sort of), Steve Smith Jr at wr3

Should have his board privilages stripped for awhile...take it easy Bri, you know taking Brandon Jacobs at 2.01 is going to evoke controversy. I don't like the team and think you are a candidate for most losses on the season. Busman will give you a run for your money though.Sorry busman, you're a good guy so i won't pile it on.

Easy there MoP.Bri had a plan torpedoed by the pick in front of him. IIRC he wanted Peyton and SSmith, but had to change gears quickly.This was back when we assumed that people would pick quickly.......I don't agree on Jacobs, but at least it wasn't Rich Alexis or SJax2.....

Don't worry Jeff, you're next on my hit list. I appreciate everyone doing a quick write up on their team...makes it so much easier to comment with all the players already listed.

 

[BroadwayG]

I did like the Leon Washington pick as well.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pick - Player - Team

5.11 Jon Kitna Det/6

11.11 Jeff Garcia TB/10

22.04 JaMarcus Russell Oak/5

Kitna and Garcia is money. I did a QB thread yesterday and pointed out how Garcia, Delhomme, and Lefty all have easy pass schedules it appears. And you are using him to back a guy up that should throw for 4,000 and 24 TD on the lowside...I love it.

1.04 Brian Westbrook Phi/5

4.04 Deuce McAllister NO/4

7.11 Warrick Dunn ATL/8

15.11 Michael Robinson SF/6

19.11 Garrett Wolfe CHI/9

16.04 Cecil Sapp DEN/6

23.11 Jason Snelling ATL/8

We all knew you would take Westbrook. You know how I feel about him, no use to repeat it. Deuce and Dunn are fine. I don't care for much of the other garbage you got late. Sapp is not the back up and neitehr is Wolfie or Snelling...so you have RB3s on your roster.

2.11 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN/5

3.11 Plaxico Burress NYG/9

9.11 Mike Furrey DET/6

14.04 Bobby Engram SEA/8

10.04 Patrick Crayton DAL/8

13.11 Drew Carter CAR /7

24.04 Shaun McDonald DET/6

18.04 Lance Moore NO/4

Housh and Burress are fine. I like Furrey, Engram, and Crayton in this best ball format. Great use of the middle rounds for those guys. I like Drew Carter some and I also like McDonald as he will be on the field and wide open in 4 WR sets.

6.04 Todd Heap BAL/8

12.04 Heath Miller PIT/6

Heap in the 6th round...who did you payoff?

20.04 Jeff Wilkins STL/9

21.11 Ryan Longwell MIN/5

8.04 Baltimore Ravens D/ST 8

17.11 Cincinnati Bengals D/ST 5

And you have the Ravens...this is a very nice team JP

JP, you have a chance to do some things with this team. I like a couple of other staff teams better and I also like Tremendous Upside quite a bit form the MB...I would have to say you are in the top 1/3 of the league likely although there aren't that many all stars on your team...but that's sort of how you draft. Not flashy but will get the job done IMO.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think that I have opened at least one of my eyes now, so . . .QBFavre, Brett GBP QB - 7 8.12 Green, Trent MIA QB - 9 13.03 Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB - 6 7.03 They've not elite, but they should all be up and down and are better for best ball than regular lineup leagues. I don't love Green but there were very few QB left at that point. We'll see just how wide opened the Steelers offense gets this year.RBBuckhalter, Correll PHI RB - 5 12.12 Jones, Julius DAL RB - 8 5.03 Maroney, Laurence NEP RB - 10 1.12 Moore, Mewelde MIN RB - 5 22.12 Every time I had a RB queued up he went just before my pick and there were no other guys that jumped out at me as comparible values. I actually thought I had taken a RB in the middle rounds but obviously that didn't happen. Without much access to the truly top guys, my options were limited and I opted to look for higher scoring elsewhere.WRColbert, Keary CAR WR - 7 16.12 Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 6 2.03 Jones, Matt JAC WR - 4 11.03 Lloyd, Brandon WAS WR - 4 23.03 Moss, Randy NEP WR - 10 4.12 Smith, Brad NYJ WR - 10 24.12 Stallworth, Donte' NEP WR - 10 9.03 Walter, Kevin HOU WR - 10 18.12 Williamson, Troy MIN WR - 5 10.12 Quantity over quality. Hopefully I got enough guys that will see a lot of time to have all of them in the mix throughout the year. At three in the morning, mistook my former 49ers wide receivers and thought I was taking Wilson instead of Lloyd (not that Wilson should have still been on the board). Seeing some of the other WRs that got taken late, I don't feel so bad about the guys added as padding. I think the negativism on Moss is overblown and he'll be fine. Paired with Stallworth, one or the other should have a decent game each week.TEGates, Antonio SDC TE - 7 3.03 Johnson, Eric NOS TE - 4 14.12 Martin, David MIA TE - 9 17.03 I completely misread the TE market and was expected people to jump in sooner for tight ends. Thus the risk in taking Gates. I see Gates putting up WR2 numbers, so he might still end up being a decent pick. At least I know what to expect from Gates (as opposd to guys with a fair amount of ??? at RB or WR that were still on the board). Martin and Johnson will (sadly) have weeks as my flex scorer, especially if they have weeks with TD catches.PKGould, Robbie CHI PK - 9 19.03 Nedney, Joe SFO PK - 6 21.03 Didn't get stuck with any of the guys on the kicking bubble and Gould should still do well (although not as well as last year).DEFBears, Chicago CHI Def - 9 6.12 Dolphins, Miami MIA Def - 9 15.03 Lions, Detroit DET Def - 6 20.12 Sure, CHI may have gone too early but their big weeks are MONSTER weeks. MIA DEF may be one of the few positive things happening for the Dolphins this year. Only took the defense to stick it to one of the MB teams. I would have gone with MIA and CHI on the same bye week and not really cared too much.I would like my team better if this were a straight Survivor league. I think I have enough to stay away from too many low scoring weeks but I don't think that I have enough to be a regular Top 3 scorer to beat most teams each week.Will try to make league comments later on . . .

You look good except at RB...why not grab Sammy Morris at some point? I just don't understand that and nothing you type is going to give me any clarity there. You are razor thin at RB IMO and your assessment is right on...you will never be at the bottom every week but you are not a top3 team. I also like how you took a player/position to "stick it" as you said to another MB team...I said you would do that in my write up yesterday.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rudni

QB: Hasselbeck, Losman, and Wallace…this is a fine QB combo although I don’t think it’s going to be close to top 5. But you have lots of weapons in other spots. This combo will get you by just fine.

RB: Tomlinson, Cadillac, Jordan, Leonard, Davenport…LT and anything is going to be good but I am pretty high on Caddy this season too. This is a very strong part of the team.

WR: Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards, Bernard Berrian, Kevin Curtis, Moulds, Jenkins, Price, Parrish…You did well getting the front 4, but what impresses me even more was what you did with the 4 behind those front 4. Moulds may do better than some people think. And I love the Price/Parrish combo. Just for kicks I had taken Price/Parrish/Reed this past off season and tallied them up together and the numbers are actually pretty good. One of them went off about 3 weeks or would score enough in a best ball league to merit a starting roster spot. Aaron, I owe you an apology as I sort of overlooked you on the Staff but what you did at WR was put on a clinic for getting good sound depth in a best ball format.

TE: Dallas Clark and Owen Daniels will do just fine for you. When KWII takes a football nap this season, Heiden will come on for you.

Def/ST: Chiefs, Rams, and Seadogs…nothing special here.

You did a great job with the #1 pick and LT. SO many owners go to sleep after they get LT this year and assume they are going to win the whole thing. I think you have a great chance to take down the league assuming LT can produce 75-80% of what he did last season.

 

[ceo3west]

Here's a write-up on my draft..

I went into this draft wanting to build a solid WR corps around my stud RB Johnson. In a best ball ppr where you start 3WR with a 4th possibly at flex, WR's are huge and have tremendous value. While on paper my team may not look like a top team, I beleive I have argualbly the best WR corps in the league and in this format I think can carry me pretty far. I'd like to however give props to Pasquino, who unbeleivably took 5 players right before my pick (Burress, Kitna, Dunn, Garcia & Robinson). The one thing I learned from this draft is that next time, I'm praying I wont be picking next to him. Nice work.

T. Romo 5.12

S. McNair 11.12

B. Quinn 17.13

As mentioned, I was hoping to land Kitna here, but I beleive Romo is the next best thing and represents good value. He has a ton of weapons and barring catastrophe in Bid D he should end up top 8 with top 5 potential. Loved McNair in 11 even though he shares Romo's bye week. That's where Quinn comes in. He should easily be the starter by week 8 and is at St. Louis where he'll be throwing all day.

L. Johnson 1.03

F. Taylor 5.12

M. Turner 8.03

S. Morris 12.03

T. Hunt 13.12

D. Dorsey 15.12

G. Jones 20.03

Ok, so my RB's are not stellar on paper. A few notes however - first, I beleive Taylor has been written off all too soon and will have a solid year this year. 1200 yards, 5-7td's and 25 catches are not out of the question. I expect the same workload as last year as MJD is not feature back material. Everyone has been avioding Turner like the plague lately due to the high ankle sprain, but I expect good things out of him later in the season once healthy. Morris was my favorite late pick in this group. He's a versatile back who will get plenty of work and perhaps the GL. Bill B. knows Maroney is a glass Joe and will want to keep him fresh. Look for Morris to get a lot more work than people expect, including some if not all GL. Hunt is another GL back, and these guys are great in best ball. Dorsey & Jones are flyers, but I like Jones because he's carried the load in the past and if FT goes down, Jones will step right into his role.

J. Walker 2.12

C. Johnson 3.12

S. Moss 4.03

W. Welker 9.12

A. Gonzalez 10.03

M. Booker 13.12

G. Lewis 23.12

A. Lelie 24.03

Love my WR's, and as I said before, in a ppr best ball with up to 4 WR starters, these guys will pay big dividends for me. Some may question the reach for CJ (and I did want Burress there), but I love him this yr and I think he'll be huge. I'm not usually one to draft rookie WR's before the 6th round, but the only other time I have it was Randy Moss, so I'm hoping for even 75% of those numbers. Welker will be $$$ in ppr, and I beleive I'll get some big games out of the bottom 4 which will help make up for a weaker RB's.

J. Witten 7.12

B. Franks 17.12

Im a big Witten fan this year, and he's another money guy in ppr. Also have the nice hookup with Romo. Franks is not the ideal backup, but he looks to be in great shape this year and should get a few scrap TD's as always. Hopefully Witten has the year I think he will.

K. Brown 21.12

S. Janikowski 22.03

Would have been nice to get better kickers, but in best ball, kickers are the least important position due to lack of value and unpredictability from week to week.

Pittsburgh 16.03

N. Orleans 19.12

I really liked getting Pitt in round 16, thought this was great value. Could have a better backup than the Saints, but with a top tier D in Pitt, hopefully I wont need to use N.O. much.

Thanks again to all, and to D Dodds for allowing me to participate, it was a blast.

 

[Bri]

SmithJacobsPalmer to startOuch.

What do you have for Smith's ADP?You've made numerous comments about QBs going early to MB team and failed to acknowledge 6 points per TD pass. Is your ADP for Carson for 4 pts per TD pass? or 6 per TD pass? Do you realize Carson scored more than Steven Jackson in this format last year?

3.01 29. Bri Palmer, Carson CIN QB Wed Aug 29 9:27:55 p.m. ET 2007 4.02 44. Stuart Brees, Drew NOS QB Wed Aug 29 9:46:39 p.m. ET 2007 4.05 47. Storm of Destruction McNabb, Donovan PHI QB Wed Aug 29 9:48:32 p.m. ET 2007 4.07 49. GridIron Menace Bulger, Marc STL QB Wed Aug 29 9:51:03 p.m. ET 2007 4.08 50. Gray Brady, Tom NEP QB I'm well aware of the rules. You just chose the wrong side of the draft for the guys you wanted on your roster. Jacobs was 1 to 1.5 rd early, Palmer .5 to 1 rd early.

I got my 3rd choice not my first. I wanted the 14th, if I wanted it, it's not wrong. You have a different opinion as to which players will be better. It's just different not wrong.Taking guys you want is apparently something you often have difficulty with. As long as they wouldn't be there by my next pick(which we both agree on) then it was fine IMO. (Most likely)You may not realize you think similarly later in drafts about younger prospects but we all do. There's no trades, he won't be there when it's back to me, it's time. Obviously, I have higher expectations for Palmer and Jacobs than you also.

Here's where Jacobs went in some recent 16 team full ppr leagues where RBs are even more valuable...3.05 Shadowfax- Brandon Jacobs, RB223.01 Knowledgereigns - Brandon Jacobs - RB20 - NYG3.06 LHUCKS - RB21 Brandon Jacobs, NYGYou claim that RBs are valuable and then draft one a full round to round and a half early. Obviously you think Jacobs is one of the biggest sleepers in this year's draft. I'm not disputing that. However you should have chosen your draft position accordingly and picked up some extra value...3.02 30. Busman Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Wed Aug 29 9:29:08 p.m. ET 2007 3.04 32. Borbely's Bunker Brigade Portis, Clinton WAS RB Wed Aug 29 9:32:15 p.m. ET 2007 3.13 41. Stuart Green, Ahman HOU RB Wed Aug 29 9:42:53 p.m. ET 2007 3.14 42. Rudnicki Williams, Carnell TBB RB Wed Aug 29 9:44:35 p.m. ET 2007 You were drawn in the 4th slot so slots 4-8 were available. This could have been your team...Westbrook/Housh/Jacobs/BradyGore/Fitz/Palmer/Ward

I don't like them though. That fact completely confuses you huh? I "have to" take the best player in your order huh?There's an enormous difference of opinion on these boards as to how Jacobs will do, I imagine these guys really like Jacobs:From spotlight

think he will do great:250 / 1200 / 1130 / 250 / 1

I think Jacobs will be a beast.275 - 1182 9TD31 - 224 1TD

275/1210/9 (4.4 ypc)30/240/1

I stand by my earlier projections: 300 carries, 1400 yards rushing, 13 TDs; 40 receptions, 350 yards receiving, 2 TDs (and still feel they are on the conservative side).

while others don't, it bares mentioning a good number don't in the Jacobs thread. Disagreement is fine.That's fine, that's the fun of FF for me. Everyone thinks they know for sure that their projections are good around here. Not that many people disagree on 9-10 TDs or so for him. Not that many have him outside 900-1100 yards rushing.The receptions are only .5 here not full PPR but just the same-I feel as if few if any, including staff members, have accounted for the Giants NOT changing their offense. Yeah that's right, they didn't change it. Look it up at any number of sites incl Giants.com, this one, BBI etc. It's still built/designed for the ultra receiving back named Tiki. I don't think most of the receptions projections are reasonable. Also is it easier to tackle the speedy slick Tiki catching a dump pass or to tackle the guy that'll bowl ya over like a steamroller? Who knows? It's a fun thought for Giants fans I'm sure. Jacobs headed toward a DB weighing a real lot less with his head down, is the DB gonna get that tackle? Osi

Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora admitted that he has avoided tackling Jacobs during practice. "Jacobs is bigger than I am, I don't want to tackle that."

What defensive players will be thinking similarly in the 4th Q?I've got him being Christian Okoye like, you've got him being the next Bam Morris.That's fine, we disagree.

 

[Clayton Gray]

First off, I chose the #8 pick for two reasons:

I wanted to make sure I was able to select Travis Henry.
I like drafting in the middle as there is often value there. If you draft on an end, everyone in the draft has to pass on a player in order for him to drop to you. In the middle, however, only half the league must pass.Quarterbacks

4.08 Tom Brady - NE

8.08 Philip Rivers - SD

Getting Brady as the sixth QB off the board is fantastic, and I couldn't pass him up. This selection also allows me to get another quality QB and only use two picks at the position. Rivers as the 12th was pretty good too. In this best ball format, I don't have to worry about the weeks he only throws 18 times while Tomlinson is getting five TDs. I considered taking David Garrard late and can't believe no one took him. Of course he's a "backup", but he has played more games in the last two years that Byron Leftwich, who went in the 11th round.

Running Backs

1.08 Travis Henry - Den

2.07 Willis McGahee - Bal

5.07 Tatum Bell - Det

11.07 Reuben Droughns - NYG

12.08 Dominic Rhodes - Oak

Yes, I passed on Gore for Henry. I've had Henry rated higher all year long and easily prefer him. Henry has repeatedly proven capable of big numbers whenever he's been given a chance to perform. He'll be given a huge chance this season. McGahee is a rare second round back that will be given a ton of carries this season. Jamal Lewis has very little left and was the 18th best fantasy back in this scoring system last season. McGahee was the 15th RB off the board here, and if healthy, he'll easily be very good value. Bell in the fifth will be great value if Kevin Jones misses all (or even most) of the season. Note that Jones didn't score in four games last season, yet he finished 12th among RBs in total points. While healthy Jones > healthy Bell, the fact is obvious that this offense will produce a very good fantasy back. Droughns is nothing special, but he should be a consistent producer and keep me from having any zeros. Rhodes will obviously miss four games, but he could easily move LaMont Jordan to a backup role. If can squeeze into the Raiders' starting lineup, he's a steal in the 12th. If he is only a role player, he will still provide some consistent scoring.

Wide Receivers

3.07 Andre Johnson - Hou

7.07 D.J. Hackett - Sea

9.07 Muhsin Muhammad - Chi

10.08 Drew Bennett - StL

13.07 Dwayne Bowe - KC

14.08 Craig Davis - SD

23.07 Charles Sharon - Jac

24.08 Nate Burleson - Sea

I drafted my WR corps in three distinct groups.

Johnson, Hackett, and Muhammad are every-week starters. I am counting on these guys to provide consistent numbers.
Bennett, Bowe, and Davis are shot in the dark players. I am counting on these guys to provide the occasional huge game.
Sharon and Burleson are wild stabs. I'm not counting on these guys, but they could each put up nice numbers if someone ahead of them is injured.Note that before the draft, I had penciled Santonio Holmes in at the 6.08 spot. His ascent up the ADP charts this offseason has been astounding. Not getting him was a bummer.

Tight Ends

6.08 Jeremy Shockey - NYG

15.07 Marcedes Lewis - Jac

18.08 Vishante Shiancoe - Min

I did not intend to take one of the better TEs, but Shockey was the best value on the board at 6.08. Lewis is a bit of sleeper this year and could be a big part of the Jaguars offense. He's a nice TE2. I did intend to take three at the position, and Shiancoe was penciled in as the third one. I think I'm higher on him than anyone else in the world, but he should catch a large number of balls this season.

Place Kickers

17.07 Jason Elam - Den

21.07 Shaun Suisham - Was

22.08 Justin Medlock - KC

With rosters this large, I like having three PKs in best ball. Sometimes, a mediocre PK can have a 12-point week which could mean 2-4 extra wins. I just hope the last two guys have a job all season.

Defense / Special Teams

16.08 Denver Broncos

19.07 Tennessee Titans

20.08 Cleveland Browns

Similarly to PKs, I like getting three teams here. I like the Broncos defense this year. They are a pretty good unit and have a handful of relatively easy games this season. For the last two defenses, I just wanted to grab teams that faced a good number of poor offenses. Tennessee (faces Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Houston twice, and Oakland among others) and Cleveland (faces Oakland, Miami, and Houston among others) each fit the bill there.