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OK, I will post what I have observed from the drafts and leagues where I have played with the staffers...I'm selling you SOBs down the river :lmao: 1. Rudni: I have been a couple of best ball staff/MB leagues with him. TO be honest I don't know of a lot of articles that I key in on with Aaron and think of him more as the board patrol than I do a FF guru of sorts. He has the #1 pick so its obvious he will have a leg up in this league. I wouldn't spend a lot of time trying to out think his moves...not disresepcting him but in this pack of staff I would put him more towards the back. And that's what sucks about him getting the best player on the board early...would have been better if he had to make a real decision.2. Chase: Have not competed against Chase as much as I have debated with him going back to his "Jets" log in days. Chase knows all that stats or can access them in nanoseconds it seems. He has strong opinions on players so it would behoove you to go in and do a search of him over the past couple of months...epsecially in any of the player spotlights as you will see his feeling about possible palyers and use that to your advantage. The staff drew the top two picks so they have a nice early advantage. To finish up on Chase...great poster, strong knowledge of the football world and probably a guy that will not miss a lot when he makes his picks.6. Pasquino: 1st thing you have to understand is Pasquino knows more than everyone including you. He really does, graduate of CalTech I do believe, the man has a lot of mathematical skills(he would know which is the better pizza deal). Also Pasquino is a Philly homer. He will sell the rights to his 1st born if he can lock up Brian Westbrook early. So whoever has the number 5 might get him off his game by interceding and taking Westy early. JP doesn't dazzle me in drafts but you can definitely keep his rankings out in front of you because he follows them to a tea during the draft. He literally will post "I have Joey Galloway #27 on my board and I need a WR, so I am taking him here as the whatever number off the board..." Pasquino gets a middle slot which means this 3RR theory of his has almost no impact on him as he and the fellow we will talk about next don't really have to worry about their slots getting tossed around. 7. Jeff Terfetiller(JT in the OK): I probably know JT better than any of the other FBG Staff...it was truly a great day when they made him part of the staff. Many knew him as Wannabee and he probably helped more guys in the AC Forum than anyone else on the MB. He has a great knowledge of the game but what he really excels in is finding the value plays at WR in the sweet spots of the 3rd thru 8th rounds. JT is a true VBD drafter and probably got a lot of his knowledge form the ole Cheatsheets days when things were 1st being put together. JT doesn't get rattled and will put together a solid draft. He tends to like the 30 something year old WR that everyone else passes on so you find him with Bruce, Driver, Galloway, the guys that don't get any love but keep grinding out top20 years. 9. Clayton Gray: Writes the SOS the entire year...he knows exactly who will outperform their ADP based on things relating to easy schedules. Pay close attention and read up on his SOS articles before tonight. Also look for his posts in the SHark Pool over the past 30-60 days much the same as Chase. I see them as close in ability and drafting and think they will mirror each other a bit in the draft.10. Borberly: I drafted with Borberly in a dynasty league earlier this year...he hails from Detroit, roots for Detroit...guess waht fills quite a few of his roster spots...Detroit Lions of course. Borberly is a great guy but again with these other Staff on here, I would put him towards the back of the pack but that doesn't mean he is a pushover or anything. Sharp guy but he's a homer. :lmao: 14. Yudkin: So David gets to clean up the mess at the end of the rounds...you guys are in big trouble. Yudkin is very analytical and reads and thinks more than he just wildly posts on the MB. His tendencies are that he can change directions on the fly. he took Peyton Manning at 2.11 in a recent draft I was in with him and his reasonsing was that he couldn't allow the LT owner to pair him with Manning...and that's what you are in for with Yudkin. He is thinking about the composite of your team as much or more than he is his team. He knows he will field a solid team but anything he can do to damage your chances he is on board for. Good Luck
:wub: and :lmao: MOP.
 
The MB doesn't stand a chance in hell...sorryPasquino, JT, Yudkin...that alone would be too much but then you toss in Chase, CG, and Rudni...MB will be confused in the middle rounds. Of course the 1st 3-4 rounds will go pretty normal but honestly we just had a league of what I would consider highly "on top of it" mix of staff and MB and there was so little room for error that just a pick here or there and it made for some uncomfortable line ups...Maybe David can slay Goliath...I'm not in the mix but if any of the MB folks want any tips on the drafting habits of these fine horsemen that have been assembled, feel free to PM me or get everyone's email together and I will be glad to share with you my experiences.Actually...TU, Bri, and Nasty might give them a run for their money depending on what their plans are.
I appreciate everything this site has to offer. And I appreciate all of the experts opinions and writeups. However, I strongly disagree with what MoP writes...Just because I don't write articles or have a website doesn't mean that I or other posters don't have as much knowledge as the experts. I have been playing FF since 1989. I am sure that is longer than a great deal of the staffers. I have seen draft strategies come and go. I have seen patterns repeat over and over. I see no reason why I or the other experienced posters can't outdraft and beat the staffers. In fact some of us already play in leagues against the staffers and do very well....Speaking of doing this since 1989 I am sure there are only a few of us that remember things like having to "mail" results out to each owner, Watching every second of Prime Time to see how your players did (as there was no internet stats) and not knowing whether you won or lost until Wednesday morning sometimes (as the east coast didnt get MNF stats printed until Weds morning)....
 
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OK, I will post what I have observed from the drafts and leagues where I have played with the staffers...I'm selling you SOBs down the river :D 1. Rudni: I have been a couple of best ball staff/MB leagues with him. TO be honest I don't know of a lot of articles that I key in on with Aaron and think of him more as the board patrol than I do a FF guru of sorts. He has the #1 pick so its obvious he will have a leg up in this league. I wouldn't spend a lot of time trying to out think his moves...not disresepcting him but in this pack of staff I would put him more towards the back. And that's what sucks about him getting the best player on the board early...would have been better if he had to make a real decision.2. Chase: Have not competed against Chase as much as I have debated with him going back to his "Jets" log in days. Chase knows all that stats or can access them in nanoseconds it seems. He has strong opinions on players so it would behoove you to go in and do a search of him over the past couple of months...epsecially in any of the player spotlights as you will see his feeling about possible palyers and use that to your advantage. The staff drew the top two picks so they have a nice early advantage. To finish up on Chase...great poster, strong knowledge of the football world and probably a guy that will not miss a lot when he makes his picks.6. Pasquino: 1st thing you have to understand is Pasquino knows more than everyone including you. He really does, graduate of CalTech I do believe, the man has a lot of mathematical skills(he would know which is the better pizza deal). Also Pasquino is a Philly homer. He will sell the rights to his 1st born if he can lock up Brian Westbrook early. So whoever has the number 5 might get him off his game by interceding and taking Westy early. JP doesn't dazzle me in drafts but you can definitely keep his rankings out in front of you because he follows them to a tea during the draft. He literally will post "I have Joey Galloway #27 on my board and I need a WR, so I am taking him here as the whatever number off the board..." Pasquino gets a middle slot which means this 3RR theory of his has almost no impact on him as he and the fellow we will talk about next don't really have to worry about their slots getting tossed around. 7. Jeff Terfetiller(JT in the OK): I probably know JT better than any of the other FBG Staff...it was truly a great day when they made him part of the staff. Many knew him as Wannabee and he probably helped more guys in the AC Forum than anyone else on the MB. He has a great knowledge of the game but what he really excels in is finding the value plays at WR in the sweet spots of the 3rd thru 8th rounds. JT is a true VBD drafter and probably got a lot of his knowledge form the ole Cheatsheets days when things were 1st being put together. JT doesn't get rattled and will put together a solid draft. He tends to like the 30 something year old WR that everyone else passes on so you find him with Bruce, Driver, Galloway, the guys that don't get any love but keep grinding out top20 years. 9. Clayton Gray: Writes the SOS the entire year...he knows exactly who will outperform their ADP based on things relating to easy schedules. Pay close attention and read up on his SOS articles before tonight. Also look for his posts in the SHark Pool over the past 30-60 days much the same as Chase. I see them as close in ability and drafting and think they will mirror each other a bit in the draft.10. Borberly: I drafted with Borberly in a dynasty league earlier this year...he hails from Detroit, roots for Detroit...guess waht fills quite a few of his roster spots...Detroit Lions of course. Borberly is a great guy but again with these other Staff on here, I would put him towards the back of the pack but that doesn't mean he is a pushover or anything. Sharp guy but he's a homer. :D 14. Yudkin: So David gets to clean up the mess at the end of the rounds...you guys are in big trouble. Yudkin is very analytical and reads and thinks more than he just wildly posts on the MB. His tendencies are that he can change directions on the fly. he took Peyton Manning at 2.11 in a recent draft I was in with him and his reasonsing was that he couldn't allow the LT owner to pair him with Manning...and that's what you are in for with Yudkin. He is thinking about the composite of your team as much or more than he is his team. He knows he will field a solid team but anything he can do to damage your chances he is on board for. Good Luck
:thumbup: and :thumbup: MOP.
Thanks.As far as overall strategy for the MB, I would tell you all that ADP can be chucked right out the window when you play staff. If a guy is set to go in the 6th round and you want him...better grab him in the 4th because he likely will not be there for you.Also important to tier your players so you don't get rattled when someone is picked...you just pick another from that tier...the Staff excel at doing this in these drafts.QBs for whatever reason really get pushed back in these formats. If there is one position where you can put it off, it's QBs...almost all the staff with the exception of Peyton manning can bypass the rest of the top tier QBs and get set to take one in about the 8th round...so you would be wise to bump that up a round and start grabbing yours in the 7th perhaps. Be agressive, don't wait for players to fall to you.
 
The MB doesn't stand a chance in hell...sorryPasquino, JT, Yudkin...that alone would be too much but then you toss in Chase, CG, and Rudni...MB will be confused in the middle rounds. Of course the 1st 3-4 rounds will go pretty normal but honestly we just had a league of what I would consider highly "on top of it" mix of staff and MB and there was so little room for error that just a pick here or there and it made for some uncomfortable line ups...Maybe David can slay Goliath...I'm not in the mix but if any of the MB folks want any tips on the drafting habits of these fine horsemen that have been assembled, feel free to PM me or get everyone's email together and I will be glad to share with you my experiences.Actually...TU, Bri, and Nasty might give them a run for their money depending on what their plans are.
I appreciate everything this site has to offer. And I appreciate all of the experts opinions and writeups. However, I strongly disagree with what MoP writes...Just because I don't write articles or have a website doesn't mean that I or other posters don't have as much knowledge as the experts. I have been playing FF since 1989. I am sure that is longer than a great deal of the staffers. I have seen draft strategies come and go. I have seen patterns repeat over and over. I see no reason why I or the other experienced posters can't outdraft and beat the staffers. In fact some of us already play in leagues against the staffers and do very well....Speaking of doing this since 1989 I am sure there are only a few of us that remember things like having to "mail" results out to each owner, Watching every second of Prime Time to see how your players did (as there was no internet stats) and not knowing whether you won or lost until Wednesday morning sometimes (as the east coast didnt get MNF stats printed until Weds morning)....
I remember those things my friend. I wasn't trying to make you all feel bad...in fact my apology to you guys was putting out the info I did shortly after. I am sure you all will fight the good fight but they do have the ends locked up and also the sweet spots in the middle with pasquino and JT...I'm just trying to help, you don't have to pay any attention to it. Good Luck tonight, we are all rooting for you guys.
 
Chase loves to handcuff and his final team will look like an allstar team from 2005. His only weakness is his Jets homerism.

 
Jeff King will be the starting TE for the Panthers. Pasquino will target him or the Minny TE late. He's not going to win the league for you, but makes a viable backup and flex protection when the bye weeks kick in. This is a deep draft so have guys like him on your cheatsheet.

Don't let Eric Johnson end up on a staff team. He has the most upside of any TE out there.

 
Jeff King will be the starting TE for the Panthers. Pasquino will target him or the Minny TE late. He's not going to win the league for you, but makes a viable backup and flex protection when the bye weeks kick in. This is a deep draft so have guys like him on your cheatsheet.Don't let Eric Johnson end up on a staff team. He has the most upside of any TE out there.
And while we are picking on Pasquino, being an Eagles homer he loves Hank Basket...this is a best ball league right?Edited: I looked at the rules and apparently not...
 
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Jeff King will be the starting TE for the Panthers. Pasquino will target him or the Minny TE late. He's not going to win the league for you, but makes a viable backup and flex protection when the bye weeks kick in. This is a deep draft so have guys like him on your cheatsheet.Don't let Eric Johnson end up on a staff team. He has the most upside of any TE out there.
And while we are picking on Pasquino, being an Eagles homer he loves Hank Basket...this is a best ball league right?Edited: I looked at the rules and apparently not...
Yes it is best ball, at least per Dodds. Hopefully the MB is aware of that as it will definately impact your draft strategy.
 
Guys, goos luck tonight! These types of drafts are a blast! The staff advantage exists, but the MB participants are a knowledgeable group as well.

Enjoy!

 
just for clarification

are rounds 5-8 the mirror of rounds 1-4?

with 14 to 1 rounds 5 and 8 and 1 to 14 rounds 6 and 7?

is there a default function in DD for this?

 
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Great, so in a best ball format the need to load up on RB early is not as great. You definitely have to take one in the 1st 2 rounds but you should be able to tandem up a couple of WR and be able to snare some value at the RB spots in the 3rd thru 7th rounds.

Guys I would be looking to get as RB2...Cadillac, Edge, Julius Jones, Deuce, the GB backfield, the Detroit backfield, Rhodes is interesting when comes back form his suspension, DeShaun/DeAngelo, and there are some back ups that will not start early but have some value late in the draft...Adrian Peterson, Mike Bell, Leon Washington, Ron Dayne(check his stats end of last year).

WR with a lot of value include Joey Galloway, Isaac Bruce, Demetrius Williams(Best Ball format), Wes Welker, Peerless Price(late), Marty Booker, Nate Washington(forget Cedric Wilson), Brandon Jones, Earnest Wilford(real late), Patrick Crayton, Furrey and McDonald, Devery Henderson...that's a good group.

 
The MB doesn't stand a chance in hell...sorryPasquino, JT, Yudkin...that alone would be too much but then you toss in Chase, CG, and Rudni...MB will be confused in the middle rounds. Of course the 1st 3-4 rounds will go pretty normal but honestly we just had a league of what I would consider highly "on top of it" mix of staff and MB and there was so little room for error that just a pick here or there and it made for some uncomfortable line ups...Maybe David can slay Goliath...I'm not in the mix but if any of the MB folks want any tips on the drafting habits of these fine horsemen that have been assembled, feel free to PM me or get everyone's email together and I will be glad to share with you my experiences.Actually...TU, Bri, and Nasty might give them a run for their money depending on what their plans are.
I appreciate everything this site has to offer. And I appreciate all of the experts opinions and writeups. However, I strongly disagree with what MoP writes...Just because I don't write articles or have a website doesn't mean that I or other posters don't have as much knowledge as the experts. I have been playing FF since 1989. I am sure that is longer than a great deal of the staffers. I have seen draft strategies come and go. I have seen patterns repeat over and over. I see no reason why I or the other experienced posters can't outdraft and beat the staffers. In fact some of us already play in leagues against the staffers and do very well....Speaking of doing this since 1989 I am sure there are only a few of us that remember things like having to "mail" results out to each owner, Watching every second of Prime Time to see how your players did (as there was no internet stats) and not knowing whether you won or lost until Wednesday morning sometimes (as the east coast didnt get MNF stats printed until Weds morning)....
Nice post Eagle. I was thinking the same thing as you. I remember the days before the internet, when the scores were calculated by hand. The USAToday was your best friend and if the late game wasn't included the results of the game were up in the air until Wednesday (especially in early adopter IDP leagues). Tonight should be fun and am looking forward to it. I drew the 7th spot so the 3RR won't affect me in the least. Value is my middle name.
 
Just drafted with Clatyon in a League here in Memphis (16 teamer) .

Clayton loves:

WR: Johnson, CJ, Housh, Evans, S. Holmes, Clayton, Jennings, Curry, Wade

RB: Henry, Rudi,

QB: Big Ben, Leinart

TE: Gates, Davis, Winslow, The Shank (late)

Clatyon Hates:

WR: Plaxico, Santana Moss, Randy Moss, Chambers

RB: Portis

QB: taking Stud QBs early

:goodposting:

 
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Soaring Eagle said:
just for clarificationare rounds 5-8 the mirror of rounds 1-4?with 14 to 1 rounds 5 and 8 and 1 to 14 rounds 6 and 7?is there a default function in DD for this?
NO...it's explained in the original information that Dodd's posted. Another piece of advice to everyone. Read the rules and understand the scoring....most of the staff except for Carlton will have. Know how best ball impacts your roster distribution.2/3/1/flex at RB/WR/TE means 7 scores. Before you add your 3rd QB to the roster to fill one position, ask yourself if you've secured 21 RB/WE/TE to give you the same ratio. Obviously you won't be going 21 deep here, but think about how much of your roster pie is allocated here when building the roster.Don't let thoughts of no roster moves majorly impact your draft. There's no difference between the middle of the pack and last. Sure, build a roster to protect against an injury or two ruining a 1st place season. Don't waste spots on backing up studs because you likely can't overcome their loss anyway. BPA is as likely to be a good backup as a benchwarming handcuff.
 
Soaring Eagle said:
just for clarification

are rounds 5-8 the mirror of rounds 1-4? No

with 14 to 1 rounds 5 and 8 and 1 to 14 rounds 6 and 7?

is there a default function in DD for this? Yes, I believe it's referred to as 3rd round serpentine
See my answers in bold above.
 
If any of the MB team need help with the 3RR questions or tonight for the draft, drop me a line - go kick ars on the staff :thumbup:
I'll ask a general question. This will be my first best ball draft...how, if at all, does that affect your draft strategy?
IMO, it makes inconsistent players or committee players more valuable because you don't have to figure out which weeks to start them. Like Dunn and Norwood. I think they should both go later in a "lineup" draft because it may be difficult to know who to start each week. But in Best Ball, they start for you if they have a good week.
 
Warehouse Nasty said:
Captain Hook said:
If any of the MB team need help with the 3RR questions or tonight for the draft, drop me a line - go kick ars on the staff :lmao:
I'll ask a general question. This will be my first best ball draft...how, if at all, does that affect your draft strategy?
See post #116 and you will see a short list of players that you might not get excited about if you had to choose whether to start every week or not but in a best ball format they are almost assured to go off once every 4 weeks and it makes them good fillers to your starters
 
I haven't used MFL for drafting, is there a Live Draft link somewhere? I don't see it on the league home page. There is a "Draft" link, but this only takes you to the prerankings.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
BassNBrew said:
Jeff King will be the starting TE for the Panthers. Pasquino will target him or the Minny TE late. He's not going to win the league for you, but makes a viable backup and flex protection when the bye weeks kick in. This is a deep draft so have guys like him on your cheatsheet.Don't let Eric Johnson end up on a staff team. He has the most upside of any TE out there.
And while we are picking on Pasquino, being an Eagles homer he loves Hank Basket...
I will wager BassNBrew's life savings that Avant is on Pasquino's team.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
BassNBrew said:
Jeff King will be the starting TE for the Panthers. Pasquino will target him or the Minny TE late. He's not going to win the league for you, but makes a viable backup and flex protection when the bye weeks kick in. This is a deep draft so have guys like him on your cheatsheet.Don't let Eric Johnson end up on a staff team. He has the most upside of any TE out there.
And while we are picking on Pasquino, being an Eagles homer he loves Hank Basket...
I will wager BassNBrew's life savings that Avant is on Pasquino's team.
BOTH :thumbup: ?
 
MOP,

WTF was with that Commissioner lockout thing in hyper and do I need to ask if Clayton is locked out? New thing for me w/ MFL this year. There's no trades so probably not, right?

 
If anyone wants some help on roster strategy and players to target late please PM me and I'll be happy to share my thoughts.

 
MOP,WTF was with that Commissioner lockout thing in hyper and do I need to ask if Clayton is locked out? New thing for me w/ MFL this year. There's no trades so probably not, right?
What? It won't matter much in best ball but the COmmish should be in lockout status once the draft is over...if there are no ww moves during the season than it really doesn't matter one way or the other.
 
If anyone wants some help on roster strategy and players to target late please PM me and I'll be happy to share my thoughts.
Just put them out in the open in here for all to read..I had no problem ripping the staff on here, and also trying to give away what they like to do.
 
MOP,WTF was with that Commissioner lockout thing in hyper and do I need to ask if Clayton is locked out? New thing for me w/ MFL this year. There's no trades so probably not, right?
What? It won't matter much in best ball but the COmmish should be in lockout status once the draft is over...if there are no ww moves during the season than it really doesn't matter one way or the other.
cool thanks man
 
Not to intimidate anyone, but I heard that Chase is so confident he's drafting in two other leagues at the same time....

I'll be watching TV and breaking down game film while wokring on articles and real estate deals as you all search for picks later in the draft. No worries.

 
Not to intimidate anyone, but I heard that Chase is so confident he's drafting in two other leagues at the same time....I'll be watching TV and breaking down game film while wokring on articles and real estate deals as you all search for picks later in the draft. No worries.
Given Chase's last pathetic draft he better try something new. Of course the same could be said about your survivor teams.
 
I sent Clayton a PM but not sure if he's read it yet. He needs to change the setting for the league to allow for a live draft.

 
Did I miss it?? Is there a link us non-participants can check on how this is going ?? I'm guessing we can't see results until after its done.

Any links ??

Thanks Ckev

 

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